Why is "Titanic" (Cameron) not in imdb top 250 list?
Henry Hanna
http://www.imdb.com/top_250_films
I am puzzled that Titanic (Cameron) is not
in the top 250.
Is this because the people who love the film are
either women or Titanic geeks?
I liked the first hour of this film very much.
(Orson Welles would have envied
some of the transition shots.)
> Cameron is underrated in this top250 list.
> I loved Abyss, except the ending.
>
>
> rms wrote:
> > (both of the LOTR movies making the top10, what
> > a joke).
>
> Not a joke!
> I thought Ring 1 (FOTR) was quite good.
> Maybe it should permanently settle in the top 100.
>
> I'm SO impressed that "Shakespeare in Love" is not
> in the top 250.
> This list seems to be largely immune from
> the "emperor's new clothes" effect.
>
>
> > This phenomenon is also why I haven't bought
> > a dvd player yet.
>
> You're missing a lot.
> I totally get "Citizen Kane" now;
> I never would have without the DVD running
> commentary by Bogdanovich.
>
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Viper
> http://www.imdb.com/top_250_films
>
>
> I am puzzled that Titanic (Cameron) is not
> in the top 250.
>
> Is this because the people who love the film are
> either women or Titanic geeks?
>
> I liked the first hour of this film very much.
>
> (Orson Welles would have envied
> some of the transition shots.)
I think you hit the nail on the head. Most fans of Titanic were
women, and the people that vote at IMDB are primarily male computer
geeks :p
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Henry Hanna
From: Viper (vi...@funkdiggityfresh.com)
>
> I think you hit the nail on the head.
> Most fans of Titanic were
> women, and the people that vote at IMDB
> are primarily male computer geeks :p
I'm wondering if the "women" factor is
the complete explanation, because "True Lies"
is also not in the top 250.
Imdb voters seem to like some artsy films.
Entertaining movies with no mental content
get low ratings at top250.
For me, the most striking examples of this are
"Titanic" "True Lies" and "Total Recall".
(maybe "Aliens" and "Starship Troopers")
Are there other good examles?
--- Henry Hanna <henh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/top_250_films
>
> I am puzzled that Titanic (Cameron) is not
> in the top 250.
>
> Is this because the people who love the film are
> either women or Titanic geeks?
>
> I liked the first hour of this film very much.
>
> (Orson Welles would have envied
> some of the transition shots.)
>
>
> > Cameron is underrated in this top250 list.
> > I loved Abyss, except the ending.
> >
> >
> > rms wrote:
> > > (both of the LOTR movies making the top10, what
> > > a joke).
> >
> > Not a joke!
> > I thought Ring 1 (FOTR) was quite good.
> > Maybe it should permanently settle in the top 100.
> >
> > I'm SO impressed that "Shakespeare in Love" is not
> > in the top 250.
> > This list seems to be largely immune from
> > the "emperor's new clothes" effect.
> >
> >
> > > This phenomenon is also why I haven't bought
> > > a dvd player yet.
> >
> > You're missing a lot.
> > I totally get "Citizen Kane" now;
> > I never would have without the DVD running
> > commentary by Bogdanovich.
> >
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Steve Hilberg
>From: Viper (vi...@funkdiggityfresh.com)
>> I think you hit the nail on the head.
>> Most fans of Titanic were
>> women, and the people that vote at IMDB
>> are primarily male computer geeks :p
>I'm wondering if the "women" factor is
>the complete explanation, because "True Lies"
>is also not in the top 250.
>Imdb voters seem to like some artsy films.
>Entertaining movies with no mental content
>get low ratings at top250.
>For me, the most striking examples of this are
>"Titanic" "True Lies" and "Total Recall".
>(maybe "Aliens" and "Starship Troopers")
>Are there other good examles?
Er, Aliens is in the Top 250 and Starship Troopers was a load of
drek so bad Heinlein's widow demanded his name be removed from the
film. I wouldn't say Indiana Jones has a lot of "mental content"
either, really, and it seems to do quite well in the list.
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In answer to the question of the subject line, after Titanic came out
it was in the top 250, and (IIRC) in the top 10. A quick search at
Google Groups turns up a post from 17 February 1998 in which someone
reports that Titanic was at #14.
Some time afterwards, its IMDB rating started to drop rapidly; from
the top 10 to the barely in the top 100 within a week, and out of the
top 250 within a month.
There was some suspicion, IIRC, that people who disliked the movie
arranged to have people rate it at 1, regardless of what they really
thought of it, in order to drive down its IMDB ranking. (You can see
the ratins at <http://imdb.com/title/tt0120338/ratings>.) Those who
liked conspiracy theories fingered the perpetrators as "Star Wars
Geeks", offended that their favorite film wasn't #1 anymore.
Articles in "alt.movies.titanic" seemed to attribute this to an anti-
Titanic backlash: the movie was so successful, and made so much money,
and raced to the top of the IMDB list, that eventually people got
offended at the success and decided to take it down a few pegs.
Now where's my tinfoil hat?
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