Was Molly Brown 'unsinkable'?
Melisezoe
Hello folks,
Why was Molly Brown introduced as "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" in the film,
before the ship ever sank? I don't get it. Was she called that before
surviving the Titanic? Or was that line a complete lapse in judgement?
Thanks!
Chewbeanie
>Why was Molly Brown introduced as "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" in the film,
>before the ship ever sank? I don't get it. Was she called that before
>surviving the Titanic? Or was that line a complete lapse in judgement?
>
>
The simple reason why she was called that is because Old Rose was telling the
story, from after. She refered to her as "What history would come to call the
unsinkable Molly Brown, we just called her Molly."
It was just told that way to remind you I suppose, that Old Rose is telling
this tory. And to give you an idea of who everyone was.
Corey
Steve.c
I think that if one gave him the name of the unsinkable Molly Brown, it is
because it is a woman of character. One sees that she doesn't appreciate
Ruth Dewitt and again less Cal!
This woman is indeed nice in the movie and if they nicknamed her "the
unsinkable " that is surely for her character.
it is what I think...
Steve.
Melisezoe a écrit dans le message
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>Hello folks,
>
>Why was Molly Brown introduced as "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" in the film,
>before the ship ever sank? I don't get it. Was she called that before
>surviving the Titanic? Or was that line a complete lapse in judgement?
>
>Thanks!
Mai-Linh
Rose says (about Molly) Her name was Margaret Brown. But history would come
to know her as the Unsinkable Molly Brown. It's old Rose looking back, not
young Rose talking about the present.
Melisezoe <meli...@aol.com> wrote in article
zeenababy
Old Rose says history would call her the Unsinkable Molly Brown...but we
all called her Molly
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Melisezoe wrote:
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> Hello folks,
>
> Why was Molly Brown introduced as "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" in the film,
> before the ship ever sank? I don't get it. Was she called that before
> surviving the Titanic? Or was that line a complete lapse in judgement?
>
> Thanks!
Old Rose was narrating, and when she introduces Molly Brown, she says
"history will come to know her as the UNSINKABLE Molly Brown".
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Markus Rausch wrote:
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> >
> >
> > The simple reason why she was called that is because Old Rose was telling the
> > story, from after. She refered to her as "What history would come to call the
> > unsinkable Molly Brown, we just called her Molly."
> > It was just told that way to remind you I suppose, that Old Rose is telling
> > this tory. And to give you an idea of who everyone was.
> >
>
> do?
>
> Markus
She did a lot. She helped people onto lifeboats. She took control of
the boat when the dazed officer just sat there gazing off into space.
She picked up an oar and directed the rest of the women on how to row.
Once back in NY, she raised tons of money for the poor deprived families
of the dead. She did A LOT. She was someone quite special. Too bad
you missed the A&E Biography episode on her.
JSC
Molly Brown was "unsinkable" long before the TITANIC disaster...she had
survived the Johnstown flood as a child. The two events are what led
to the moniker "unsinkable."
J.
dgri...@theriver.com
Follow the time line of what was being said by who in the
film...[another reason to see it again!]
dg
Markus Rausch
C.C. Jordan
Well, the movie really did not do Molly brown justice. The scene where the
crewman of the lifeboat suggested that she would thrown overboard was
exactly backwards of the actual facts. Brown demanded the half full boat return
to pick up survivors. When the crewman objected strenuously, Brown, with the
support of several others in the boat threatened to toss the crewman over
the side if he did not shut up. He fell silent and the boat headed back to
search for the living. The story was related to reporters in NYC the day
the survivors were delivered. Brown was hailed as a national hero. She
raised money for the destitute immigrant widows who lost their husbands in the
sinking and raised money for the families of the crew as well.
Molly Brown was called 'unsinkable' not only because she survived the Titanic,
but because she was a remarkably resilient woman. Brown was also a notable
figure in the Woman's Sufferage Movement.
Regards,
C.C. Jordan
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Andrys D Basten
In article <6circq$4...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>,
C.C. Jordan <C.C.J...@Worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Well, the movie really did not do Molly brown justice. The scene where the
>crewman of the lifeboat suggested that she would thrown overboard was
>exactly backwards of the actual facts. Brown demanded the half full boat return
>to pick up survivors. When the crewman objected strenuously, Brown, with the
>support of several others in the boat threatened to toss the crewman over
>the side if he did not shut up. He fell silent and the boat headed back to
>search for the living.
In the reading I've done, Brown took over but this was later, and to
row the boat TOWARD the Carpathia. The crewman just wanted the boat
to stay in place. She thought they'd freeze that way and she and the
women took over.
They were not said to have gone back to get people after they were
in a safe area. I think it's true she wanted to but that no one else
was all that interested in this idea.
- A
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ArielFreak
I thought Molly was later on the ship "Lucitenia" which was sunk w/ Britsh and
American passengers on it during World War 1. Molly survived yet another ship
wreck, and that is why she is "unsinkable"
Keely333
>Subject: Was Molly Brown 'unsinkable'?
>From: meli...@aol.com (Melisezoe)
>Date: Thu, Feb 19, 1998 15:25 EST
>Message-id: <19980219202...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
>
>Hello folks,
>
>Why was Molly Brown introduced as "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" in the film,
>before the ship ever sank? I don't get it. Was she called that before
>surviving the Titanic? Or was that line a complete lapse in judgement?
>
>Thanks!
>
>
the Unsinkable Molly Brown.
Ally
>
>
>
>
C.C. Jordan
While I don't generally recommend web sites for information ( so many
are unreliable) I will make an exception this time.........
Go to www.mollybrown.com, the official Molly Brown web page,
which I believe is maintained by Historic Colorado Inc., with support
by the Colorado Historical Society.
They agree that Molly did indeed take charge of the boat +before+
the ship sank in order to clear the immediate area of the ship.
The recent A&E biography did claim she later returned to search for survivors.
The web site doesn't mention this one way or the other. Either way, the web
site does provide an excellent capsule bio of a remarkable lady.
Regards,
C.C. Jordan
Andrys D Basten
In article <6ck7jv$q...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
Thanks for the webpage pointer. Will go there.
The A&E, from what I've read, had no reason to say she returned to
search for survivors. I now have about 7 books on the Titanic and
not one mentions such a thing. I imagine the biography relied on the
words of people who knew her and maybe she embellished. She
definitely took over from Hutchins or Hitchins and got the boat
moving toward the Carpathia though.
dgri...@theriver.com
Where did you hear this? She wasn't on the Lusitania -- which, by the
way, was torpedoed by a German U-boat and sank very quickly [after a
secondary explosion in her coal bunker] on 7 MAY 1915 with a loss of
1,198 lives.
Christine Riva
Also, didn't the movie say she not only survived the Titanic sinking, but
that she also survived another sinking as well of another ship?
-Christine
Markus Rausch <RY...@watchtower.studfb.unibw-muenchen.de> wrote in article
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T. Brooks
In article <6cn4jc$i...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>, "Christine Riva"
<TheR...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Also, didn't the movie say she not only survived the Titanic sinking, but
> that she also survived another sinking as well of another ship?
>
> -Christine
Not that I recall. No, definitely not. And I've seen it 3 times.
The woman who survived two shipwrecks was a servant. Her name escapes me
but the book's at Border's.
CYllan77HM
>> Also, didn't the movie say she not only survived the Titanic sinking, but
>> that she also survived another sinking as well of another ship?
>>
>> -Christine
>
>Not that I recall. No, definitely not. And I've seen it 3 times.
>
>The woman who survived two shipwrecks was a servant. Her name escapes me
>but the book's at Border's.
It was Violet Jessop and she survived both the Titanic and sister ship
Brittanic shipwrecks.
Holly M. @----<----
dgri...@theriver.com
Yes, she was a stewardess.
dg
Andrys D Basten
In article <19980224103...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
CYllan77HM <cylla...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Also, didn't the movie say she not only survived the Titanic sinking, but
>>> that she also survived another sinking as well of another ship?
>>>
>>> -Christine
>>
>>Not that I recall. No, definitely not. And I've seen it 3 times.
>>
>>The woman who survived two shipwrecks was a servant. Her name escapes me
>>but the book's at Border's.
>
>It was Violet Jessop and she survived both the Titanic and sister ship
>Brittanic shipwrecks.
> Holly M. @----<----
And she also was on the Olympic when it was hit by something :)
This is a woman who had a fear of water/ocean before getting on this ships.
Hagerman, Andrew
Apparently, Molly Brown got in and out of the life boats so many times that
members of the crew threatened to shoot her if she didn't sit down and shut
up. That is how she got the nickname "The Unsinkable Molly Brown"