Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Madame Bijou

159 views
Skip to first unread message

Keely333

unread,
Feb 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/15/98
to

Tonight at my sixth viewing, I picked up on this:

When Rose is flipping through Jack's portfolio, she comes a across a sketch of
a wild-eyed older woman. He tells her it's "Madame Bijou," who used to sit at
the bar in Paris wearing all of her jewelry, waiting for her long-lost love to
return. He smirks.

But Rose could have very easily turned out just like her, throwing her life
away pining for Jack. Does anyone else think this was foreshadowing? Or is it
just a coincidence?

Ally

JSC

unread,
Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
to

Keely333 wrote:

> When Rose is flipping through Jack's portfolio, she comes a across a
> sketch of
> a wild-eyed older woman. He tells her it's "Madame Bijou," who used
> to sit at
> the bar in Paris wearing all of her jewelry, waiting for her long-lost
> love to
> return. He smirks.
>
> But Rose could have very easily turned out just like her, throwing her
> life
> away pining for Jack. Does anyone else think this was foreshadowing?
> Or is it
> just a coincidence?

No, I think Cameron knew darn well what he was doing with this
character. It's a subtle point, but intentional, I think.

Too bad all the people who think that Rose should have pined away for 84
years didn't catch it.

Mr. Andrews

unread,
Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
to

When Jack shows his portrait of Madame Bijou to Rose, James Cameron wanted
to make something of symbolic but I don't know what..

Without the promise of Rose to Jack, would she have become Madame Bijou??

I wonder...

Booradle13

unread,
Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
to

>Without the promise of Rose to Jack, would she have become Madame Bijou??
>
>I wonder...

i think without the promise she would have let herself die there.

Miyu

unread,
Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
to

I think the symbolism behind Madam Bijou is the fact that the elderly woman
waited in a bar wearing all her jewelry waiting for her long lost
love....its was one of the things that told the audience about Rose's
dislike for Cal. She didn't love him and she couldn't admit that she didn't
either..Remember when Jack asked her "Do you love him?" And she couldn't
give him an answer. If she had stayed with Cal...she would have been
severely unhappy, and possibly wearing her best jewelry waiting for her
long lost love..Jack..if the crash had never happened of course. But in a
way, Rose did this in her life after the death of Jack too. She quite
possibly loved the man she married after the accident, but in her heart; in
her mind...she waited and waited for Jack to come back. . .this "coming
back" reminds me of a part of the film when she says to the one lifeboat
that came back (it was a double meaning..she was talking about Jack as
well) "Come Back! Come Back!!"
--
Miyu
mi...@earthlink.net
http://www.pdsnorth.com/~miyu

Mr. Andrews <Cy...@skynet.be> wrote in article
<6cuua7$o49$1...@news0.skynet.be>...


> When Jack shows his portrait of Madame Bijou to Rose, James Cameron
wanted
> to make something of symbolic but I don't know what..
>

Juddson Dowhy

unread,
Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
to

Well I don't know about anyone else but when looking at old Rose I couldn't
help but think of Madame Bijoux wearing every piece of Jewlery she owned,

waiting for her long lost love.

Booradle13 wrote:

> >Without the promise of Rose to Jack, would she have become Madame Bijou??
> >
> >I wonder...
>

Tom Pappas

unread,
Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
to

Mr. Andrews <Cy...@skynet.be> wrote in article
<6cuua7$o49$1...@news0.skynet.be>...
> When Jack shows his portrait of Madame Bijou to Rose, James Cameron
wanted
> to make something of symbolic but I don't know what..
>
> Without the promise of Rose to Jack, would she have become Madame Bijou??
>
> I wonder...

Now think. Here's a strong, independent lady who is clearly in control of
herself and her life. Do you think she accomplished what she did in life
because she knew Jack for two days? Hell, no! She had always stood up to
churls like Caledon, and made fun of mens' best-known obsession:

ROSE
Do you know of Dr. Freud? His ideas about the male preoccupation with size
might be of particular interest to you, Mr. Ismay.

This, to the Managing Director of White Star Line! The only thing I can't
fathom is why he would have her attempt suicide. I have more to say about
this in the thread "Rose's character".
--
Tom Pappas

"But this ship can't sink!"

"She is made of irony, sir. I assure you, she can. And she will."

{:oş

0 new messages