Who's the person with the earliest birthdate to appear in a silent film?
Robert Moulton
just curious to see what people can come up with.
I'm wondering if it could reach back as far as the 18th
century.
- Rob
Rob Farr & Kathy Lipp-Farr
across the screen in a Lumiere film.
Mark Twain (newsreels) was born in 1835.
As for "name" actors, Sarah Bernhardt was born in 1844 and Herbert
Beerbohn Tree in 1853.
Rob Farr
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ChaneyFan
see what people can come up with. I'm wondering if it could reach back as far
as the 18th century.
I think it's highly unlikely that you will find an 18th century actor appearing
credited in a silent film. Maybe a 95-year-old was caught on film in a Lumiere
clip.
I thought Lydia Yeamans Titus, who played old women in Griffith Biographs, was
a good candidate, but she's only 1874 (which is astonishing to think she was
playing old old women at age 36!)
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James Russell
>I thought Lydia Yeamans Titus, who played old women in Griffith Biographs, was
>a good candidate, but she's only 1874 (which is astonishing to think she was
>playing old old women at age 36!)
None of this tallies with the info in my Guinness Book of Movie Facts
& Feats, according to which Ms Titus holds the record for the greatest
age at which anyone embarked upon a regular movie career, aged 84 in
1918, and first appearing in a film with R. Valentino called "All
Night", making 50-odd features until her death in 1929, which would
give her a birthdate of 1834. Which further conflicts with the IMDB,
according to which she was born c.1866 in Australia and made her first
film appearance in 1915, never appeared in any films called "All
Night", and the only Griffith film on the list is "A Romance of Happy
Valley" of 1919. Does anyone know which if any of these accounts is
correct?
As for the question, unless Lumiere ever filmed any centenarians I
don't think any people born in the 18th century made it onto film. The
person with the earliest birthdate to ever appear in a film is most
likely Pope Leo XIII, who was born in 1810 and filmed during a
procession in 1897, I think by a Lumiere agent; this also makes him
the first Pope to be filmed, and probably also the first to be
recorded (a fairly poor condition cylinder recording of him from 1903
still exists). Leo Tolstoy, born in 1828, was also captured by the
newsreel cameras at the very end of his life (and a bizarre end it
was, too). Also born in 1828 was a fellow called William H. "Dad"
Taylor, who worked as an extra, aged 101, on Edwin Carewe's 1929
talkie "Evangeline".
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jg...@spam-be-damned.ans.com.au wrote:
> On 14 Apr 2000 04:25:25 GMT, chan...@aol.com (ChaneyFan) wrote:
>
> >I thought Lydia Yeamans Titus, who played old women in Griffith Biographs, was
> >a good candidate, but she's only 1874 (which is astonishing to think she was
> >playing old old women at age 36!)
>
> None of this tallies with the info in my Guinness Book of Movie Facts
> & Feats, according to which Ms Titus holds the record for the greatest
> age at which anyone embarked upon a regular movie career, aged 84 in
> 1918, and first appearing in a film with R. Valentino called "All
> Night", making 50-odd features until her death in 1929, which would
> give her a birthdate of 1834. Which further conflicts with the IMDB,
> according to which she was born c.1866 in Australia and made her first
> film appearance in 1915, never appeared in any films called "All
> Night", and the only Griffith film on the list is "A Romance of Happy
> Valley" of 1919. Does anyone know which if any of these accounts is
> correct?
I don't know, but I have found the IMDB to be erroneous in a few areas
(the main example I can remember is the films of Phyllis Calvert - they
list her as being in a silent film, then miss out many of her later
films. I haven't been able to find any other evidence for her being in
silents). So, don't rely on the IMDB to be right on long-dead stars, it's
probably safest to check around some more.
Mim
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Michael Gebert
> The
> person with the earliest birthdate to ever appear in a film is most
> likely Pope Leo XIII, who was born in 1810 and filmed during a
> procession in 1897, I think by a Lumiere agent; this also makes him
> the first Pope to be filmed, and probably also the first to be
> recorded (a fairly poor condition cylinder recording of him from 1903
> still exists).
And is included, just because it could be, on a Pearl CD (surely making
him one of the earliest-born people on CD) of Antonio Moreschi, who was a
choir director of the Vatican and... as the title of the CD says... The
Last Castrato (and apparently the only one ever recorded).
___________________________________________________
Michael Gebert, Writer | www.mindspring.com/~mgmax
Hey Republicans: Tired of seeing the White House occupied by a
gladhanding young Southern governor with a history of shading the truth
about his business dealings, draft dodging, drug use and bad boy
behavior? No, I guess you aren't.
RobtMcKay
cinema - Queen Victoria. Certainly not the oldest it appears, but at a ripe old
age in 1900.
Rob McKay
EckHarDT50
Around 1900, an English cameraman filmed a woman who was 108 years old. Her
name was Rebecca Clarke.
The brief footage was made available to the public as a "Kinora" reel. And it
survives. While the Kinora reels (used on a kind of flip book viewer invented
by the Lumieres) might not qualify as silent films under the strict definition
of "Cinema," the footage of Miss Clarke and her kitten is certainly a "motion
picture." Given that she was born before 1800, she must have been the person
with the earliest birthdate to be filmed by a movie camera.
(There is a small book on Kinoras by
Barry Anthony, available from the Projection Box.)
Joe Eckhardt
FThomp1065
movie was Hank Worden. Or maybe that's just because he was born old. At least,
that's how it seems to Ethan Edwards and me.
Frank Thompson
Robert Moulton
the winner. Hard to believe film exists of someone born
three centuries ago.
On a completely different topic, but one this thread is
reminding me of, how many Civil War widows are alive today?
Last I heard was that in 1997 there were at least two and
possibly three still alive.
Thanks - Rob
EckHarDT50 wrote in message
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ChaneyFan
& Feats, according to which Ms Titus holds the record for the greatest
age at which anyone embarked upon a regular movie career, aged 84 in
1918, and first appearing in a film with R. Valentino called "All
Night", making 50-odd features until her death in 1929, which would
give her a birthdate of 1834.
You are probably right. I simply looked this up in the John Stewart
"Filmarama" reference where I knew I could find it quickly and his 1874 is
almost certainly a typo. I can certainly believe 1834 which would put her at
late 60's in Biograph shorts.
bar...@bellatlantic.net
> Taylor, who worked as an extra, aged 101, on Edwin Carewe's 1929
> talkie "Evangeline".
He also played the old dancing prospector in the dance hall scenes of
Chaplin's THE GOLD RUSH (1925).
MATT BARRY
Michael Gebert
eckha...@aol.com (EckHarDT50) wrote:
> >The person with the earliest birthdate to ever appear in a film.....>
>
> Around 1900, an English cameraman filmed a woman who was 108 years old. Her
> name was Rebecca Clarke.
>
> The brief footage was made available to the public as a "Kinora" reel. And it
> survives. While the Kinora reels (used on a kind of flip book viewer invented
> by the Lumieres) might not qualify as silent films under the strict definition
> of "Cinema," the footage of Miss Clarke and her kitten is certainly a "motion
> picture." Given that she was born before 1800, she must have been the person
> with the earliest birthdate to be filmed by a movie camera.
>
> (There is a small book on Kinoras by
> Barry Anthony, available from the Projection Box.)
>
> Joe Eckhardt
Good answer!
Rob Farr & Kathy Lipp-Farr
1828.
kamak...@mediaone.net
momentarily...old geezer with bags under his eyes and a sad sad
countenance. Him, I think.
Robert Moulton wrote:
> I know there won't be a definitive answer for this one, I'm
> just curious to see what people can come up with.
> I'm wondering if it could reach back as far as the 18th
> century.
>
> - Rob
kamak...@mediaone.net
Glamour Studios
short documentaries filmed in 1899, which aparently consisted of her in a carriage
reviewing troops, artillery, etc. One comment noted that Her Majesty graciously
dispensed with the use of a parasol, permitting the Biograph to obtain an excellent
portrait.
As she would have been about 80 at the time (born May 24, 1819) that would probably
get her up in the top ten closest to having been born in the 18th century.
Archie Waugh
James Russell
>But she was DEAD at the time! Does that count?
She actually died in 1901, not 1900. I'm not aware of any films of her
in life, but if she was filmed in 1900 before her death then yes it
would count.
James Russell
>Around 1900, an English cameraman filmed a woman who was 108 years old. Her
>name was Rebecca Clarke.
>The brief footage was made available to the public as a "Kinora" reel. And it
>survives.
Marvellous. That was one I've never heard of. Actually not familiar
with Kinora, either. Thanks for the reference…
James Russell
Gebert) wrote:
>In article <38f6ae22...@news.ans.com.au>,
>jg...@spam-be-damned.ans.com.au wrote:
>
>> The
>> person with the earliest birthdate to ever appear in a film is most
>> likely Pope Leo XIII, who was born in 1810 and filmed during a
>> procession in 1897, I think by a Lumiere agent; this also makes him
>> the first Pope to be filmed, and probably also the first to be
>> recorded (a fairly poor condition cylinder recording of him from 1903
>> still exists).
>
>And is included, just because it could be, on a Pearl CD (surely making
>him one of the earliest-born people on CD) of Antonio Moreschi, who was a
>choir director of the Vatican and... as the title of the CD says... The
>Last Castrato (and apparently the only one ever recorded).
That was the one, the very place I heard it. Moreschi was recorded in
1902 and 1904 and it's the most unspeakably weird sound…
R H Draney
> On a completely different topic, but one this thread is
> reminding me of, how many Civil War widows are alive today?
> Last I heard was that in 1997 there were at least two and
> possibly three still alive.
The definition of "Civil War widow" kept changing as the people paying
veteran's benefits kept having to expand the pool just to keep people in
it...at first it was women who were married to a Civil War soldier who
was killed during the conflict, then women who were married to any
soldier during the war even when he died years later, and eventually
women who married--even long after the war--anyone who had served....
So one can easily imagine a drummer boy who signs on at age fifteen a
week before Appomattox...gets up into his nineties and marries some
young thing as a "companion"...then when *she's* in her golden years,
she's a "Civil War widow"...it's a reach, but that's probably the
description of your two or three in 1997....
(Oh, and by the way...your mention of Rebecca Clarke as "someone born
three centuries ago" is a little off...a little over *two* is more
accurate, and still pretty amazing...wonder what her Kevin Bacon number
is)....r
--
"Mom, look! I traded the Lamborghini for these magic beans!"
Dziadsj
>three centuries ago.
spanning 4 centuries actually but still only adds up to just over 2.
Steve
FThomp1065
>
>She actually died in 1901, not 1900. I'm not aware of any films of her
>in life, but if she was filmed in 1900 before her death then yes it
>would count.
>
Hey, if we can count *dead* people, I can think of *lots* of really old ones.
How about King Tut?
Frank Thompson
Obviously still on pain killers from recent surgery (don't ask)
David Totheroh
FThomp1065 wrote:
I think that first comedienne of the Ouldavai(sp?) Gorge has him beat. Everybody
loves Lucy.
Luke McKernan
rather late. It is believed, as someone pointed out, that the earliest
birthdate of someone filmed is likely to be Rebecca Clarke, “the well
known centenarian”, who was 108 when she was filmed for the Kinora some
time after 1902, which is when the Kinora was first marketed in
Britain. It was a hand-held flipcard viewer, invented by the Lumieres
but exploited by the British Mutoscope and Biograph Company. All of its
subjects were filmed, and then the images transferred to cards. Barry
Anthony’s booklet “The Kinora” has been mentioned, and more can be
found out about this booklet and the Kinora at Stephen Herbert’s The
Projection Box site at http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~s-
herbert/ProjectionBox.htm.
There has been some uncertainty expressed about films of Queen
Victoria, Pope Leo XIII and Tolstoy. Victoria (born 1819) was first
filmed in October 1896, at Balmoral, by the royal photographers Downey.
This film survives, as do thirty or more short films of the Diamond
Jubilee procession in 1897 (of which five or six show the Queen), an
1897 procession with her in Sheffield, her getting out of a carriage in
1897 at Buckingham Palace (the only film of her in movement), 1899 film
of her watching troops preparing to leave for the Boer War, and two
films of her visit to Dublin in 1900. There many short films of her
funeral in February 1901, and of course there were several other films
made of her that are now lost.
Pope Leo XIII (born 1810), previously very camera shy (still or moving)
was eventually filmed by W.K-L. Dickson and Emile Lauste of the British
Mutoscope Biograph Company after lengthy negotiations in April/May
1898, in twelve scenes taken in the Vatican gardens. These films
survive, and are of considerable charm, with the Pope playing up to the
camera like an old pro, and blessing the camera (and hence the
audience) on several occasions.
Leo Tolstoy (born 1828) was filmed on several occasions by Alexsandr
Drankov in a much-reproduced series of news films made around 1909.
Other early notables would include actor Joseph Jefferson (born 1829),
filmed by W.K-L. Dickson for Biograph in “Rip Van Winkle” in 1896; Paul
Kruger (born 1825), President of the Transvaal, filmed by Joe Rosenthal
in 1898 and in exile in Europe in 1900; the astronomer and
chronophotographer Jules Janssen (born 1824), filmed by the Lumieres in
two films made in June 1895; Li Hung Chang (born 1823), famous Chinese
politician, filmed by Edison and Biograph on his visit to America in
August 1896; the Duke of Cambridge (born 1819), seen in some of the
Queen Victoria’s Diamond Jubilee films in 1897 (I think he was a
possible choice as husband for her before she married Albert) and at a
wedding in 1899; and William Ewart Gladstone (born 1809), British prime
minister, not filmed alive but his funeral in 1898 exists on film...
There will be others.
Luke
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Greta de Groat
actually not all that old when he made those recordings (though he sounds
it). Too bad the only castrato to be recorded was in such terrible voice.
By the way, was Manuel Garcia Jr. ever filmed? He was a celebrity centenarian
early in the century, 1805-1906.
greta (getting off on an opera thread again)
Frederica
In article <38FB33A2...@sulmail.stanford.edu>, Greta de
Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Actually, i believe it is Alessandro Moreschi, who was born in
1858 so was
>actually not all that old when he made those recordings (though
he sounds
>it). Too bad the only castrato to be recorded was in such
terrible voice.
When I heard the recording, I couldn't determine whether he was
in
bad voice due to illness or age, or if the recording quality was
just terrible. It didn't sound anything like the Bargain
Countertenors we've come to know and love.
As an Accredited Vamp, I suppose it's up to me to maintain an
important Western tradition by producing a lot of men who can
sing
in that range.
Frederica
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eric stott
I've heard them too, and read something about them. The only remaining
copies of the discs are not in good shape. Moreschi was quite old, and
according to many accounts, was not a very good singer even in his
prime.
Eric Stott
Frederica
>I've heard them too, and read something about them. The only
remaining
>copies of the discs are not in good shape. Moreschi was quite
old, and
>according to many accounts, was not a very good singer even in
his
>prime.
Yee-ouch!! What an epitaph. Never was so much sacrificed for so
little.
Lyndon Blaylock
Well, he's part of a vocal tradition that we have a hard time evaluating.
Remember that neither he nor anyone else close to the recording session seemed
to think that he was in "terrible voice ". He did agree to release the records
after all..
Actually, I believe that he does with his voice exactly what he intends to do -
but this is my conjecture of course. What he does vocally is so far different
from anything that we are used to in serious singing, that it is disconcerting.
But written descriptions of vocal ornamentation during the castrato period are
very close to what one hears on these records.
That doesnt change the fact that he sounds like a cat in heat, but it also
makes a difference if you hear an original shellac record , rather than a cd
transfer. It's just like the difference between a film in 35 mm on a screen,
and on video.
L. Blaylock
Lyndon Blaylock
>copies of the discs are not in good shape. Moreschi was quite old, and
>according to many accounts, was not a very good singer even in his
>prime.
Actually, Moreschi was only 44 and 45 when he recorded-not an advanced age .
He was not well known outside of Italy in his lifetime,and was never considered
a great singer, but there are many complimentary accounts of him during his 30
year career, and he was very popular for a time.
His discs were not best sellers, but they are available in reasonable
condition.
L. Blaylock
Michael Gebert
<missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <38FB33A2...@sulmail.stanford.edu>, Greta de
> Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >Actually, i believe it is Alessandro Moreschi, who was born in
> 1858 so was
> >actually not all that old when he made those recordings (though
> he sounds
> >it). Too bad the only castrato to be recorded was in such
> terrible voice.
>
>
> When I heard the recording, I couldn't determine whether he was
> in
> bad voice due to illness or age, or if the recording quality was
> just terrible.
All of the above. He was nearing 60, the recording method was primitive,
and he was frankly not ranked as one of the better castrati in any case,
apparently. You get a sense of what the unearthly sound of a child's
pitch with a barrel chest behind it sounds like, but it's not something
you'd sit and listen to for pleasure regularly....
eric stott
Sorry if I was in error. I can only go by what I read. In this case it
was the N.Y. Times
Eric Stott
Michael Gebert
mg...@mindspring.com (Michael Gebert) wrote:
> All of the above. He was nearing 60
Liar! As someone pointed out, he was born in 1858. I was thinking he had
to be 13 around the date of the Risorgimento in 1861 (which put an end to
castrati) but he was presumably in Rome, which wasn't taken until 1870.
But you knew that.
Michael Gebert
And in my case it's the liner notes in the CD.
James Russell
<gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Actually, i believe it is Alessandro Moreschi, who was born in 1858 so was
>actually not all that old when he made those recordings (though he sounds
>it). Too bad the only castrato to be recorded was in such terrible voice.
You think so? I couldn't particularly tell. Given that he is the only
genuine castrato on record, I'd have thought it would be impossible to
really judge his quality. And countertenors don't really give much
real indication. But we seem to be getting off topic…
James Russell
<missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>When I heard the recording, I couldn't determine whether he was
>in
>bad voice due to illness or age, or if the recording quality was
>just terrible. It didn't sound anything like the Bargain
>Countertenors we've come to know and love.
>As an Accredited Vamp, I suppose it's up to me to maintain an
>important Western tradition by producing a lot of men who can
>sing
>in that range.
*places additional armour-plating inside underpants, just in case*
James Roots
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:46:23 -0700, Frederica
> <missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>When I heard the recording, I couldn't determine whether he was
>>in
>>bad voice due to illness or age, or if the recording quality was
>>just terrible. It didn't sound anything like the Bargain
>>Countertenors we've come to know and love.
>>As an Accredited Vamp, I suppose it's up to me to maintain an
>>important Western tradition by producing a lot of men who can
>>sing
>>in that range.
There's a credit course in vamping? Where?
Jim
(wearing the magic wedding ring that renders men
immune to illict or unaccredited vamping)
Frederica
>There's a credit course in vamping? Where?
>
>Jim
>(wearing the magic wedding ring that renders men
>immune to illict or unaccredited vamping)
If I told you that, I would then have to enthrall you to the
point
where you would hurl yourself from rooftops out of unrequited
lust.
Frederica
(Member, California Chapter, Daughters of Naldi)
pre...@my-deja.com
Frederica <missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >Actually, i believe it is Alessandro Moreschi, who was born in
> 1858 so was
> >actually not all that old when he made those recordings (though
> he sounds
> >it). Too bad the only castrato to be recorded was in such
> terrible voice.
>
> in
> bad voice due to illness or age, or if the recording quality was
> just terrible. It didn't sound anything like the Bargain
> Countertenors we've come to know and love.
>
> As an Accredited Vamp, I suppose it's up to me to maintain an
> important Western tradition by producing a lot of men who can
> sing in that range.
>
Hey, anyone who references P.D.Q. Bach is okay by us!
Mike S.
(transporting young gulls across staid lions for immoral porpoises)
pre...@my-deja.com
Frederica <missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >There's a credit course in vamping? Where?
> >
> >Jim
> >(wearing the magic wedding ring that renders men
> >immune to illict or unaccredited vamping)
>
> If I told you that, I would then have to enthrall you to the point
> where you would hurl yourself from rooftops out of unrequited lust.
>
> Frederica
You said "rooftopS." Does that mean he would survive at least one hurl?
Mike S.
(who's been known to make many people hurl on occasion)
Rodney Sauer
> >
> >Jim
> >(wearing the magic wedding ring that renders men
> >immune to illict or unaccredited vamping)
>
> If I told you that, I would then have to enthrall you to the
> point
> where you would hurl yourself from rooftops out of unrequited
> lust.
I found the secret web site for vamp accreditation, with a four step course in
Vamping 101. Also, read Nita Naldi's remarkably sensible (if somewhat cynical)
ten commandments for wives, and her interviews on the subject of the difference
between screen vamps and real-life vamps.
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Palace/2152/contents.html
Now, I'll reveal to my fellow men the rest of the secrets jealously guarded by
women. Just click on over to... hey, that's my earlobe.... wow! that's cut
low!... excuse me, I'll post the rest later...
Rodney Sauer
rod...@rddconsultants.com
Pianist and Director of the Mont Alto Ragtime and Tango Orchestra
and the Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra
http://www.ragtime.org/ragtime/MontAlto
Glamour Studios
Archie Waugh
Frederica wrote:
> >There's a credit course in vamping? Where?
> >
> >Jim
> >(wearing the magic wedding ring that renders men
> >immune to illict or unaccredited vamping)
>
> If I told you that, I would then have to enthrall you to the
> point
> where you would hurl yourself from rooftops out of unrequited
> lust.
>
Frederica
>You said "rooftopS." Does that mean he would survive at least
one hurl?
>
>Mike S.
I usually allow my victims a couple of practice hurls, from
stepping stools, staircases, and the like, leaving them bruised
and battered. Oh, and a mere shadow of their former selves, of
course--that goes without saying.
The third time, you're puppy chow.
Frederica
eric stott
>
> >You said "rooftopS." Does that mean he would survive at least
> one hurl?
> >
> >Mike S.
>
> I usually allow my victims a couple of practice hurls, from
> stepping stools, staircases, and the like, leaving them bruised
> and battered. Oh, and a mere shadow of their former selves, of
> course--that goes without saying.
>
> The third time, you're puppy chow.
>
> Frederica
And they call it..................Puppy Love
Eric Stott
(Who plans to haunt you as a romantic wraith as soon as I can get the
attic roof hatch unstuck.)
kamak...@mediaone.net
fate. Where do I sign up for the Daughters of Naldi? Do they have a
local valley chapter?
kamak...@mediaone.net
eric stott
or to the Glaumage, or if you just want a summer course
(Drumroll)
There's .....Vamp Camp.
(Rimshot)
Eric Stott
(Not yet late, but certainly lamented)
James Roots
> Wow you're good! You've already got him cheerfully accepting his squishy
> fate. Where do I sign up for the Daughters of Naldi? Do they have a
> local valley chapter?
Hey, hey, now wait a minute! Frederica is threatening me,
not Eric, and I haven't yet "cheerfully accepted" my fate.
The reason I haven't is because of a fatal flaw in Frederica's
plan. She's assuming she herself is immune to my smouldering
seductive ways, my Valentino eyes, my John Gilbert charm,
my Harrison Ford (the original) hair (also the original),
and my, er, Stan Laurel intellect.
You haven't a chance, my heartless vamp. Swoon and
surrender!
Jim
Frederica
>surrender!
>
>Jim
Oh, puh-leeze! Would Nita surrender? to Gilbert, to Ford--even
to
the great Valentino? I think not. I swirl my train at you! I
throw back my head, thereby affording you a view of my swanlike
neck, and laugh heartlessly! I clasp my bosom suggestively!. .
(wha? where...oh, there it is...) I toy seductively with my fan!
Look, don't make me pull out the big guns, OK?
Frederica
(notching up another one on the foot-long cigarette holder)
eric stott
>
> >You haven't a chance, my heartless vamp. Swoon and
> >surrender!
> >
> >Jim
>
> Oh, puh-leeze! Would Nita surrender? to Gilbert, to Ford--even
> to
> the great Valentino? I think not. I swirl my train at you! I
> throw back my head, thereby affording you a view of my swanlike
> neck, and laugh heartlessly! I clasp my bosom suggestively!. .
> (wha? where...oh, there it is...) I toy seductively with my fan!
>
> Look, don't make me pull out the big guns, OK?
>
> Frederica
> (notching up another one on the foot-long cigarette holder)
>
While I, Passion's Plaything, writhe in torment at the hem of your gown.
But tell me- where do you find Kohl nowadays?
Eric Stott
Frederica
>While I, Passion's Plaything, writhe in torment at the hem of
your gown.
As well you should. You worm.
>But tell me- where do you find Kohl nowadays?
A bar in Berlin.
Frederica
pre...@my-deja.com
est...@albany.net wrote:
> Frederica wrote:
> >
> > >You haven't a chance, my heartless vamp. Swoon and
> > >surrender!
> > >
> > >Jim
> >
> > Oh, puh-leeze! Would Nita surrender? to Gilbert, to Ford--even
> > to
> > the great Valentino? I think not. I swirl my train at you! I
> > throw back my head, thereby affording you a view of my swanlike
> > neck, and laugh heartlessly! I clasp my bosom suggestively!. .
> > (wha? where...oh, there it is...) I toy seductively with my fan!
> >
> > Look, don't make me pull out the big guns, OK?
> >
> > Frederica
> > (notching up another one on the foot-long cigarette holder)
> >
>
gown.
>
>
>
Isn't he still in Berlin?
Mike S.
(three German jokes in a row--what's going on here?)
kamak...@mediaone.net
James Roots wrote:
> (kamak...@mediaone.net) writes:
> > Wow you're good! You've already got him cheerfully accepting his squishy
> > fate. Where do I sign up for the Daughters of Naldi? Do they have a
> > local valley chapter?
>
> Hey, hey, now wait a minute! Frederica is threatening me,
> not Eric, and I haven't yet "cheerfully accepted" my fate.
> The reason I haven't is because of a fatal flaw in Frederica's
> plan. She's assuming she herself is immune to my smouldering
> seductive ways, my Valentino eyes, my John Gilbert charm,
> my Harrison Ford (the original) hair (also the original),
> and my, er, Stan Laurel intellect.
>
> You haven't a chance, my heartless vamp. Swoon and
> surrender!
>
> Jim
>
> >
Lloyd Fonvielle
> You forgot the tape around your glasses and your Wallace Beery breath.
>
> James Roots wrote:
>
> > (kamak...@mediaone.net) writes:
> > > Wow you're good! You've already got him cheerfully accepting his squishy
> > > fate. Where do I sign up for the Daughters of Naldi? Do they have a
> > > local valley chapter?
> >
> > Hey, hey, now wait a minute! Frederica is threatening me,
> > not Eric, and I haven't yet "cheerfully accepted" my fate.
> > The reason I haven't is because of a fatal flaw in Frederica's
> > plan. She's assuming she herself is immune to my smouldering
> > seductive ways, my Valentino eyes, my John Gilbert charm,
> > my Harrison Ford (the original) hair (also the original),
> > and my, er, Stan Laurel intellect.
> >
> > You haven't a chance, my heartless vamp. Swoon and
> > surrender!
It's time to put a stop to this:
She is bewildered by the dazzling shimmer of the candlelight reflecting off my
carefully brilliantined hair. She takes a few steps backwards -- deeper into my
lair. All she can think about is my eyes, bewitching her with their hypnotic
spell, their dark mystery only enhanced by a fiendishly positioned baby spot.
She whimpers and falls back onto the chaise longue, unfolding like a flower
in expectation of the April rains, thevampish pose abandoned now, cast off like
the girlish pretense it was. As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
My own voice startles me, shattering the utter, breathless silence:
"Line!"
eric stott
>
> >While I, Passion's Plaything, writhe in torment at the hem of
> your gown.
>
I'll tell Satan you're coming
> >But tell me- where do you find Kohl nowadays?
>
> A bar in Berlin.
>
> Frederica
>
Berlin? Well, we've just hopped from Vamp to Sultry Temptress/Goddess.
Not a big move, but a subtle one. Less slinking, less makeup, and better
lighting. Are you up to it?
Eric Stott
(I'm going back to watching Leatrice Joy vamp the butler in "Clinging
Vine")
James Roots
> kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
>
>> You forgot the tape around your glasses and your Wallace Beery breath.
I do NOT use tape to hold my glasses together! I use, um, a
bent paper clip.
> It's time to put a stop to this:
>
> She is bewildered by the dazzling shimmer of the candlelight reflecting off my
> carefully brilliantined hair. She takes a few steps backwards -- deeper into my
> lair. All she can think about is my eyes, bewitching her with their hypnotic
> spell, their dark mystery only enhanced by a fiendishly positioned baby spot.
> She whimpers and falls back onto the chaise longue, unfolding like a flower
> in expectation of the April rains, thevampish pose abandoned now, cast off like
> the girlish pretense it was. As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
> whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
> My own voice startles me, shattering the utter, breathless silence:
> "Line!"
As for me, I think it's time I walked the dog...
Jim
Glamour Studios
mention was a pun...a reference both to the make-up, and former Chancellor
Helmut Kohl...who would, of course, be found in Berlin!
Archie Waugh
Glamour Studios
AW
ChaneyFan
Well we already have at least one romance that started in this newsgroup, so
another won't hurt us.
===============================
Jon Mirsalis
e-mail: Chan...@aol.com
Lon Chaney Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ChaneyFan
Jon's Film Sites: http://members.aol.com/ChaneyFan/jonfilm.htm
Rodney Sauer
Glamour Studios wrote:
> I'm not positive, but I think everyone in this thread missed that the Kohl
> mention was a pun...a reference both to the make-up, and former Chancellor
> Helmut Kohl...who would, of course, be found in Berlin!
> Archie Waugh
And, after recent political turmoil, in a bar.
pre...@my-deja.com
Glamour Studios <glam...@gte.net> wrote:
> I'm not positive, but I think everyone in this thread missed that the
Kohl
> mention was a pun...a reference both to the make-up, and former
Chancellor
> Helmut Kohl...who would, of course, be found in Berlin!
> Archie Waugh
Hey, at least two of us caught it!
Mike S.
Frederica
In article <38FE4C43...@compuserve.com>, Lloyd Fonvielle <
navi...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
>whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
. . and then, in an excess of passion, she placed her hands on
the sides of his head to guide his waiting lips to her
voluptuous,
milk-white breast. "Ewwwwww!!" she thought, as she
surreptitiously tried to wipe the goo from her hands onto the
puce
satin sheets. Suddenly, he inhaled deeply of her seductive,
heady, Jungle Lust perfume, and lost himself in the magical pools
that were her eyes, slightly reddened now due to the Kliegs, but
limpid nevertheless. As he tripped over the train of her gown
and
groveled at her feet, she clasped his searching hand, lifted it
to
her bee-stung lips, and administered the coup-de-grace with the
pearls that were her small, predatory teeth: The Naldi Nibble!
You're mine, slave.
pre...@my-deja.com
ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (James Roots) wrote:
> Lloyd Fonvielle (navi...@compuserve.com) writes:
> > kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
> >
> >> You forgot the tape around your glasses and your Wallace Beery
breath.
>
> I do NOT use tape to hold my glasses together! I use, um, a
> bent paper clip.
>
> > It's time to put a stop to this:
> >
> > She is bewildered by the dazzling shimmer of the candlelight
reflecting off my
> > carefully brilliantined hair. She takes a few steps backwards --
deeper into my
> > lair. All she can think about is my eyes, bewitching her with their
hypnotic
> > spell, their dark mystery only enhanced by a fiendishly positioned
baby spot.
> > She whimpers and falls back onto the chaise longue, unfolding
like a flower
> > in expectation of the April rains, thevampish pose abandoned now,
cast off like
knowing, she
> > whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
silence:
> > "Line!"
>
> As for me, I think it's time I walked the dog...
>
> Jim
>
Is that what they're calling it now? EEWWWW!!
Mike S.
FROM NITA TO NINA: On a completely unrelated topic, set your VCRs for
next Tuesday at 9:30PM; NBC is rerunning an absolutely hilarious JUST
SHOOT ME featuring a fabulous guest appearance by Nina Foch as an old
woman with a very peculiar death wish. Just the sight of her seducing
David Spade will give you the heebie-jeebies for months afterward!
Lloyd Fonvielle
> In article <38FE4C43...@compuserve.com>, Lloyd Fonvielle <
> navi...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> >As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
> >whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
>
> . . . and then, in an excess of passion, she placed her hands on
> the sides of his head to guide his waiting lips to her
> voluptuous,
> milk-white breast. "Ewwwwww!!" she thought, as she
> surreptitiously tried to wipe the goo from her hands onto the
> puce
> satin sheets. Suddenly, he inhaled deeply of her seductive,
> heady, Jungle Lust perfume, and lost himself in the magical pools
> that were her eyes, slightly reddened now due to the Kliegs, but
> limpid nevertheless. As he tripped over the train of her gown
> and
> groveled at her feet, she clasped his searching hand, lifted it
> to
> her bee-stung lips, and administered the coup-de-grace with the
> pearls that were her small, predatory teeth: The Naldi Nibble!
>
> You're mine, slave.
Well, I tried.
Glamour Studios
Archie Waugh
pre...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8dlkm7$a4q$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>,
> ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (James Roots) wrote:
> > Lloyd Fonvielle (navi...@compuserve.com) writes:
> > > kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
> > >
> > >> You forgot the tape around your glasses and your Wallace Beery
> breath.
> >
> > I do NOT use tape to hold my glasses together! I use, um, a
> > bent paper clip.
> >
> > > It's time to put a stop to this:
> > >
> > > She is bewildered by the dazzling shimmer of the candlelight
> reflecting off my
> > > carefully brilliantined hair. She takes a few steps backwards --
> deeper into my
> > > lair. All she can think about is my eyes, bewitching her with their
> hypnotic
> > > spell, their dark mystery only enhanced by a fiendishly positioned
> baby spot.
> > > She whimpers and falls back onto the chaise longue, unfolding
> like a flower
> > > in expectation of the April rains, thevampish pose abandoned now,
> cast off like
> > > the girlish pretense it was. As I lean down to her, masterful,
> knowing, she
> > > whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
Richard M Roberts
>
> In article <38FE55FF...@gte.net>,
> Glamour Studios <glam...@gte.net> wrote:
> > I'm not positive, but I think everyone in this thread missed that the
> Kohl
> > mention was a pun...a reference both to the make-up, and former
> Chancellor
> > Helmut Kohl...who would, of course, be found in Berlin!
> > Archie Waugh
>
> Hey, at least two of us caught it!
>
> Mike S.
>
And I thought you were talking about Nat King Kohl.
RICHARD M ROBERTS
Richard M Roberts
>
> Frederica wrote:
>
> > In article <38FE4C43...@compuserve.com>, Lloyd Fonvielle <
> > navi...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >
> > >whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
> >
> > the sides of his head to guide his waiting lips to her
> > voluptuous,
> > milk-white breast. "Ewwwwww!!" she thought, as she
> > surreptitiously tried to wipe the goo from her hands onto the
> > puce
> > satin sheets. Suddenly, he inhaled deeply of her seductive,
> > heady, Jungle Lust perfume, and lost himself in the magical pools
> > that were her eyes, slightly reddened now due to the Kliegs, but
> > limpid nevertheless. As he tripped over the train of her gown
> > and
> > groveled at her feet, she clasped his searching hand, lifted it
> > to
> > her bee-stung lips, and administered the coup-de-grace with the
> > pearls that were her small, predatory teeth: The Naldi Nibble!
> >
> > You're mine, slave.
>
> Well, I tried.
And if you ever saw pictures of Nita Naldi later in life, you know she
nibbled too much. Moooooooooooooooooo!
RICHARD M ROBERTS
kamak...@mediaone.net
material to anyone else? Who else could do it with the straight face necessary
for the scene?
Frederica wrote:
> In article <38FE4C43...@compuserve.com>, Lloyd Fonvielle <
> navi...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> >As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
> >whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
>
> . . and then, in an excess of passion, she placed her hands on
> the sides of his head to guide his waiting lips to her
> voluptuous,
> milk-white breast. "Ewwwwww!!" she thought, as she
> surreptitiously tried to wipe the goo from her hands onto the
> puce
> satin sheets. Suddenly, he inhaled deeply of her seductive,
> heady, Jungle Lust perfume, and lost himself in the magical pools
> that were her eyes, slightly reddened now due to the Kliegs, but
> limpid nevertheless. As he tripped over the train of her gown
> and
> groveled at her feet, she clasped his searching hand, lifted it
> to
> her bee-stung lips, and administered the coup-de-grace with the
> pearls that were her small, predatory teeth: The Naldi Nibble!
>
> You're mine, slave.
>
kamak...@mediaone.net
It sounds GREAT!
Lloyd Fonvielle wrote:
> kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
>
> > You forgot the tape around your glasses and your Wallace Beery breath.
> >
> > James Roots wrote:
> >
> > > (kamak...@mediaone.net) writes:
> > > > Wow you're good! You've already got him cheerfully accepting his squishy
> > > > fate. Where do I sign up for the Daughters of Naldi? Do they have a
> > > > local valley chapter?
> > >
> > > Hey, hey, now wait a minute! Frederica is threatening me,
> > > not Eric, and I haven't yet "cheerfully accepted" my fate.
> > > The reason I haven't is because of a fatal flaw in Frederica's
> > > plan. She's assuming she herself is immune to my smouldering
> > > seductive ways, my Valentino eyes, my John Gilbert charm,
> > > my Harrison Ford (the original) hair (also the original),
> > > and my, er, Stan Laurel intellect.
> > >
> > > You haven't a chance, my heartless vamp. Swoon and
> > > surrender!
>
> It's time to put a stop to this:
>
> She is bewildered by the dazzling shimmer of the candlelight reflecting off my
> carefully brilliantined hair. She takes a few steps backwards -- deeper into my
> lair. All she can think about is my eyes, bewitching her with their hypnotic
> spell, their dark mystery only enhanced by a fiendishly positioned baby spot.
> She whimpers and falls back onto the chaise longue, unfolding like a flower
> in expectation of the April rains, thevampish pose abandoned now, cast off like
> the girlish pretense it was. As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
> whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
kamak...@mediaone.net
Glamour Studios wrote:
> A bent straight pin also will suffice in a pinch.
> AW
>
> James Roots wrote:
>
> > Lloyd Fonvielle (navi...@compuserve.com) writes:
> > > kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
> > >
> > >> You forgot the tape around your glasses and your Wallace Beery breath.
> >
> > I do NOT use tape to hold my glasses together! I use, um, a
> > bent paper clip.
> >
> > > It's time to put a stop to this:
> > >
> > > She is bewildered by the dazzling shimmer of the candlelight reflecting off my
> > > carefully brilliantined hair. She takes a few steps backwards -- deeper into my
> > > lair. All she can think about is my eyes, bewitching her with their hypnotic
> > > spell, their dark mystery only enhanced by a fiendishly positioned baby spot.
> > > She whimpers and falls back onto the chaise longue, unfolding like a flower
> > > in expectation of the April rains, thevampish pose abandoned now, cast off like
> > > the girlish pretense it was. As I lean down to her, masterful, knowing, she
> > > whispers in my ear: "Rough me up, big boy . . ."
> > > My own voice startles me, shattering the utter, breathless silence:
> > > "Line!"
> >
pre...@my-deja.com
Composer of that jazz standard, "Got a pfennig, Bennig?"
Mike S.