Heights of silent actresses
VPaterno
silent era, they were usually relatively short (though probably at about the
same stature as the rest of the female population). Are there any lists of the
heights of actresses of the silent era, and were there any who were especially
tall, close to or at six feet? They probably weren't leading ladies but
character actresses.
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--title card, Erich Von Stroheim's "The Wedding March," 1928
AChiWriter
silent era, they were usually relatively short (though probably at about the
same stature as the rest of the female population). >>
Mabel Normand was pretty tiny--and so was 1930s star Mae West
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silent era, they were usually relatively short (though probably at about the
same stature as the rest of the female population).
As a general rule, you see average height of Anglo Americans increasing about
0.5" a decade for the past 70 years, largely due to better nutrition and fewer
childhood diseases. So as a general rule, yes actors and actresses are getting
taller. What the exact numbers are I don't know. I've met a number of silent
stars and have often been surprised at how short they were. Even Loretta Young
and Esther Ralston, who I think of as tall and willowy, were probably only on
the order of 5'5" in their 80's (add 1-2" for age-related bone compression).
Having said that, at the 1985 NYC Cinecon I got on the elevator with a woman
who was a classic New York Annie Hall type. Really looked the part. Then I
realized it was Diane Keaton coming to the Dealer's Room! I was shocked at how
short she was...maybe 5'4" but of course I've mostly seen her standing next to
Woody Allen so everything is relative.
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Frederica
silent
>stars and have often been surprised at how short they were.
Even Loretta Young
>and Esther Ralston, who I think of as tall and willowy, were
probably only on
>the order of 5'5" in their 80's (add 1-2" for age-related bone
compression).
5'5" is a tall for a woman in the 20s and 30s. My grandmother
was
5'5" (for the record, so am I), and I have pictures of her with
her high school classmates. She's standing in the back, towering
over almost everyone, including the boys.
Gloria Swanson always talked about how short she was (around 5').
Greta Garbo was a giant at 5'7". I was REALLY surprised to find
out that Joan Crawford was barely 5' tall; I guess all those
Adrian clothes made her look bigger and she had a HUGE FACE.
Mary
Pickford was a bitty thing, wasn't she?
Not a silent star, of course, but Elizabeth Taylor is also very
short at 5' nothing.
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Archie Waugh
James Roots
Right -- and I believe Margaret Dumont was 3'10" and 85 lbs!
Jim
(5'11", 194)
BMoon52571
silent actresses? Here are my nominees in no particular order:
Greta Garbo (Swedish Sphinx)
Virginia Cherill (I know she isn't technically a silent actress but, boy, she
sure looked like an angel in "City Lights", her only claim to fame)
Georgia Hale (Girl from "Gold Rush" I also like her because she seemed to have
a lot of spunk in that movie especially when she slapped that brute who tried
to kiss her)
Jean Harlow (She qualifies because she is said to appear in "City Lights" and
made an appearance in one of silent Laurel and Hardy shorts)
Merna Kennedy (Yeah, I know another Chaplin actress. What can I say? Chaplin
sure knows how to pick 'em.)
ChaneyFan
I agree. That's exactly my point. Loretta Young, Garbo and others look
incredibly tall and lanky in the movies, but today standing next to someone
like Geena Davis (6') they would look like midgets.
ChaneyFan
silent actresses?
Any list that doesn't have Louise Brooks, Clara Bow, Marceline Day and Barbara
Kent is suspect!
Frederica
In article <20000525003441...@ng-xb1.aol.com>,
chan...@aol.com (ChaneyFan) wrote:
>>>>5'5" is a tall for a woman in the 20s and 30s.
>
>I agree. That's exactly my point. Loretta Young, Garbo and
others look
>incredibly tall and lanky in the movies, but today standing
next to someone
>like Geena Davis (6') they would look like midgets.
WHO YOU CALLIN' A MIDGET, FELLA???
Michael Gebert
today-- and there's one of Mary and Jack Pickford next to William S. Hart
where they both look like hobbits next to him.
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actually 4' 11 and 1/2". She was 4' 11" at the time of Wizard of Oz (age 16).
Those Munchkins were REALLY small!
Another example of tiny movie people: The Three Stooges. I don't have exact
figures, but many years ago I met Emil Sitka, who played supporting roles in many
of the shorts and features. On screen Sitka towered over the Stooges, playing
imperious butlers, judges, professors, etc. Yet in person he was much short than
me, perhaps 5'4" at most.
Archie Waugh
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Mabel Normand (sigh!--I've missed more of what is undoubtedly great work by
Arbuckle and Chaplin because I can't take my eyes off her)...also all three
Talmadge sisters, in no particular order...(Clara Bow, Louise Brooks and Colleen
Moore have already been named, so for that reason alone I shan't stuff the ballot
box further on their behalf)....r
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behavior of vertically-fired bullets
ChaneyFan
Calm down Freddie. I like short women so much I decided to marry one (5'2").
VPaterno
>was 5'5" (for the record, so am I), and I have pictures of her with
>her high school classmates. She's standing in the back, towering
>over almost everyone, including the boys.
I recall seeing a story about 1930 or so that referred to Carole Lombard as
"tall." Lombard was reportedly 5'4 1/2", though some accounts have listed her
as 5'2".
Marion Davies' listed height was 5'5 1/2", which for that era would have made
her a tall showgirl type.
>Gloria Swanson always talked about how short she was (around 5').
>Greta Garbo was a giant at 5'7". I was REALLY surprised to find
>out that Joan Crawford was barely 5' tall; I guess all those
>Adrian clothes made her look bigger and she had a HUGE FACE.
>Mary Pickford was a bitty thing, wasn't she?
From stills of "Broadway Melody," I always thought Anita Page was quite tall,
but that was only in comparison to Bessie Love, whom I guess was 5' at most.
>Not a silent star, of course, but Elizabeth Taylor is also very
>short at 5' nothing.
>
>Frederica
>
James L. Neibaur
Another example of tiny movie people: The Three Stooges. I don't have exact
figures, but many years ago I met Emil Sitka, who played supporting roles in
many
of the shorts and features. On screen Sitka towered over the Stooges, playing
imperious butlers, judges, professors, etc. Yet in person he was much short
than
me, perhaps 5'4" at most.
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I knew Emil too, and was head and shoulders taller than he was. And he was a
head taller than all the Stooges. If I appeared in a Stooge picture, I would
have to play the scary guy with the fright wig.
Greta de Groat
stars: Who's who on the screen (1920) and Famous Film Folk (1925). They seem to
be adding inches to people, though, a suspicious number of the women are listed
as 5'5", Gloria Swanson is listed in them as 5'3", Mabel Normand in the latter as
5'4". Pickord is listed as 5', but is one of the few short heights given. Some
others sound believable (Theda Bara 5'6", but was Phyllis Haver really also that
tall?) Betty Blythe is one of the tallest at 5'7", and that height is also given
for Anna Q. Nilsson. Norma Talmadge was given as 5'2", which seems reasonable as
she was described by people meeting her that she was smaller than they expected.
So these books are sources for heights, but i don't know how far they can be
believed.
Photoplay magazine also had a section where someone answered questions about the
stars heights, hair and eye colors, marital status, age, etc. The same people
are asked about over and over, and the answers don't always coincide.
greta
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Some folks shrink a lot with age; I know someone who became two
inches shorter in one year (at the age of 40).
ast...@my-deja.com
Greta de Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
> I've got a couple of books on my desk that purport to give info on
various
> stars: Who's who on the screen (1920) and Famous Film Folk (1925).
They seem to
> be adding inches to people, though, a suspicious number of the women
are listed
I agree! My 'Picture Show' annuals also list the heights of most stars
(except Crawford, who it seems didn't want us to know) and I too am
suspicious.
The ladies must have all had themselves measured in their highest heels!
Only one, Betty Bronson, admits to being under 5 feet (4ft 8 1/2)
Mary Pickford and Bessie Love claim to be 5 feet tall... in reality I'd
put them equal in stature with Betty.
Swanson, as has been noted, claimed to be 5ft 3. Which I can't beleive
either.
Nearly all the rest, list themselves as being between 5ft 4 and 5ft 6.
Garbo, Eulalie Jensen and Fanny Brice admit to being the tallest.
I did notice on a letters page in one of the mags, a reader asking:
Who is the tallest girl in pictures?
The editor replied:
It must be Charlotte Greenwood, who is 6 feet and more!
> as 5'5", Gloria Swanson is listed in them as 5'3", Mabel Normand in
the latter as
> 5'4". Pickord is listed as 5', but is one of the few short heights
given. Some
> others sound believable (Theda Bara 5'6", but was Phyllis Haver
really also that
> tall?) Betty Blythe is one of the tallest at 5'7", and that height
is also given
> for Anna Q. Nilsson. Norma Talmadge was given as 5'2", which seems
reasonable as
> she was described by people meeting her that she was smaller than
they expected.
> So these books are sources for heights, but i don't know how far they
can be
> believed.
>
> Photoplay magazine also had a section where someone answered
questions about the
> stars heights, hair and eye colors, marital status, age, etc. The
same people
> are asked about over and over, and the answers don't always coincide.
>
> greta
>
>
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Michael Gebert
> In article <392EAEB6...@sulmail.stanford.edu>,
> Greta de Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > I've got a couple of books on my desk that purport to give info on
> various
> > stars: Who's who on the screen (1920) and Famous Film Folk (1925).
> They seem to
> > be adding inches to people, though, a suspicious number of the women
> are listed
>
>
> I agree! My 'Picture Show' annuals also list the heights of most stars
> (except Crawford, who it seems didn't want us to know) and I too am
> suspicious.
> The ladies must have all had themselves measured in their highest heels!
> Only one, Betty Bronson, admits to being under 5 feet (4ft 8 1/2)
> Mary Pickford and Bessie Love claim to be 5 feet tall... in reality I'd
> put them equal in stature with Betty.
If that. Again, go look at the still of Mary and Jack Pickford next to
William S. Hart in the Mary Pickford Rediscovered book that I mentioned.
If she was 5 feet, Hart must have been well over 7 feet.
DeedoePetey
Gloria Swanson. She really kept herself up. She was into health foods and
beauty aids, even marketed them at one point, and it sure showed. Her skin was
wonderful looking even when she was older. Norma Shearer was also a stunner.
I'm sure there are many more I can't remember right now.
kamak...@mediaone.net
Todd's problems, but there was also Constance Bennett who stayed a reported
95 pounds for most of her life and managed to look good. Somehow Joan
Crawford seems to have lost a good chunk of weight between The Hollywood
Review and Grand Hotel. How did they DO it?
ast...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <392EAEB6...@sulmail.stanford.edu>,
> Greta de Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > I've got a couple of books on my desk that purport to give info on
> various
> > stars: Who's who on the screen (1920) and Famous Film Folk (1925).
> They seem to
> > be adding inches to people, though, a suspicious number of the women
> are listed
>
> I agree! My 'Picture Show' annuals also list the heights of most stars
> (except Crawford, who it seems didn't want us to know) and I too am
> suspicious.
> The ladies must have all had themselves measured in their highest heels!
> Only one, Betty Bronson, admits to being under 5 feet (4ft 8 1/2)
> Mary Pickford and Bessie Love claim to be 5 feet tall... in reality I'd
> put them equal in stature with Betty.
oks...@my-deja.com
kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
> On a similar note, how'd they get so SKINNY? I heard all about Thelma
> Todd's problems, but there was also Constance Bennett who stayed a
reported 95 pounds for most of her life and managed to look good.
It's really a matter of proportion. At 5' you certainly don't look
anorexic if you weigh 95 lbs. At 5'8" you do. A person can be
"overweight" at 5' and weigh less than a slim person who's 5'8"
> > In article <392EAEB6...@sulmail.stanford.edu>,
> > Greta de Groat <gdeg...@sulmail.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > Swanson, as has been noted, claimed to be 5ft 3. Which I can't
beleive
> > either.
I stood beside her in the late 1970's when she was on one of her
anti-sugar tours and in heels she must not have been taller than about
5'3". I do have this vague memory from looking at charts in the 60's and
70's that it was customary to include a 2" heel for women. So this
would have made Gloria 5'1" in her stockinged feet.
Oksana
Jennifer Lerew
>> I agree! My 'Picture Show' annuals also list the heights of most stars
>> (except Crawford, who it seems didn't want us to know) and I too am
>> suspicious.
>> The ladies must have all had themselves measured in their highest heels!
>> Only one, Betty Bronson, admits to being under 5 feet (4ft 8 1/2)
>> Mary Pickford and Bessie Love claim to be 5 feet tall... in reality I'd
>> put them equal in stature with Betty.
>
> If that. Again, go look at the still of Mary and Jack Pickford next to
> William S. Hart in the Mary Pickford Rediscovered book that I mentioned.
> If she was 5 feet, Hart must have been well over 7 feet.
>
Just recently, the downtown Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising had
their annual film costume show, which included a great display of "golden
age" designs. You really get a genuine sense of how big(or rather, tiny)the
actresses were. There was a Pickford outfit, purportedly from
"Fauntleroy"(though I was wondering if it might not have been more of a
masquerade party outfit), that actually wasn't nearly as small-in length or
waist-as a nearby Lombard/Travis Banton dress. I'm sure Pickford was padded
to hide her figure, which added bulk to her outline(only on a small person
could this be accomplished w/out looking heavy on film, of course)-but
anyway, it really didn't look like Pickford was 4'8"! Conversely, I've also
seen a Garland outfit on display at Butterfield & B.(anyone remember that
auction?); it was a cutaway-type tuxedo jacket...that thing was so TINY, you
would SWEAR it was made for a 9-10 year old child! No kidding. Anyway, my
guesses would be;
Pickford: 5 feet
Lombard: 5'3"
Garland:(as previously mentioned)4'10-11"
Frederica
In article <B55BF228.3D03%jle...@earthlink.net>, Jennifer Lerew <
jle...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>actresses were. There was a Pickford outfit, purportedly from
>"Fauntleroy"(though I was wondering if it might not have been
more of a
>masquerade party outfit), that actually wasn't nearly as
small-in length or
>waist-as a nearby Lombard/Travis Banton dress.
Would this have been that powder-blue number with the cape that
Lombard wore at the Cafe Moderne ("Tootsies from all nations!")
in
Nothing Sacred? When I die, I want to go wherever I'm going in
THAT DRESS.
Frederica
Frederica
In article <3931C561...@mediaone.net>,
kamak...@mediaone.net wrote:
>On a similar note, how'd they get so SKINNY? I heard all about
Thelma
>Todd's problems, but there was also Constance Bennett who
stayed a reported
>95 pounds for most of her life and managed to look good.
>Crawford seems to have lost a good chunk of weight between The
Hollywood
>Review and Grand Hotel. How did they DO it?
I know Crawford worked like a demon at it. Figure-wise she
really
looked good in her later pictures; it was her face that was so
scary. She became a caricature of herself.
GROSS GENERALIZATION ALERT! This is just my own personal
observation and has no scientific or historical validity
whatsoever, but...the actors I've met tend to be obsessive
people,
the kind who wiggle their feet when they're sitting down.
(Perhaps you need to be obsessive to be successful at acting, not
that I know any actors who are successful, other than at food
service.) People like that usually have to eat like hogs to
remain skinny, DAMN THEM. Of course, we Accredited Vamps are
expected to have a certain. . .roundness. . .of form. It's in
our
contract.
Since we're discussing physical attributes, what about their tiny
little feet? Have you been to Grauman's Chinese Theatre? How
did
they walk on those teensy little feet?
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Archie Waugh
Frederica
gunboat-sized
shoes, and right as they went to put their feet in the cement,
PRESTO! they whipped out little baby shoes they'd been hoarding
for just such an eventuality. I'll bet Pickford's feet were so
big she went skiing with them. And Swanson? You could kayak
with
her dress pumps.
Frederica
In article <39358254...@gte.net>, Glamour Studios <
Constance B. Kuriyama
Frederica wrote:.
> Since we're discussing physical attributes, what about their tiny
> little feet? Have you been to Grauman's Chinese Theatre? How
> did
> they walk on those teensy little feet?
They were teensy little people--even many of the men. It
would surprise you how many film stars today are much smaller
than they look on screen.
John Wayne was not teensy, but even he had surprisingly small feet.
Connie K.
pre...@my-deja.com
This is hardly a news flash. Has everyone forgotten Harvey Korman's
dying words in BLAZING SADDLES?
Mike S.
Cat Murray
Frederica wrote: Of course, we Accredited Vamps are
> expected to have a certain. . .roundness. . .of form. It's in
> our
> contract.
>
> Since we're discussing physical attributes, what about their tiny
> little feet? Have you been to Grauman's Chinese Theatre? How
> did
> they walk on those teensy little feet?
Blaing Saddles! "How did he do such GREAT STUNTS with such TINY FEET!?"
pre...@my-deja.com
Cat Murray <kamak...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> I love you!!!
>
> Frederica wrote: Of course, we Accredited Vamps are
>
> > expected to have a certain. . .roundness. . .of form. It's in
> > our
> > contract.
> >
> > Since we're discussing physical attributes, what about their tiny
> > little feet? Have you been to Grauman's Chinese Theatre? How
> > did
> > they walk on those teensy little feet?
>
> Blaing Saddles! "How did he do such GREAT STUNTS with such TINY
FEET!?"
>
Oh, great! I bring up the BLAZING SADDLES quote, and Frederica gets the
credit! I'm suing!!
Mike S.
"We find the defendants incredibly guilty!"--jury foreman in THE
PRODUCERS
Frederica
pre...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <393F1529...@mediaone.net>,
> Cat Murray <kamak...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> > I love you!!
> >
> FEET!?"
> >
>
> Oh, great! I bring up the BLAZING SADDLES quote, and Frederica gets the
> credit! I'm suing!!
You can't sue an Accredited Vamp, union regs prevent it. And...is it
twoo what they say about men of your color?
Frederica
precode
<missme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <8hokvr$8it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> pre...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> In article <393F1529...@mediaone.net>,
>> Cat Murray <kamak...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>> > I love you!!
>> >
>> > Blaing Saddles! "How did he do such GREAT STUNTS with such
TINY
>> FEET!?"
>> >
>>
>> Oh, great! I bring up the BLAZING SADDLES quote, and Frederica
gets the
>> credit! I'm suing!!
>
>
>You can't sue an Accredited Vamp, union regs prevent it.
And...is it
>twoo what they say about men of your color?
>
>Frederica
>
I will reply with the line that Mel had to cut out to get an R
rating: "Uh, excuse me, ma'am, I suppose this might be what you
had in mind...but you're sucking my arm."
Mike S.
Frederica
precode <michael_schle...@spe.sony.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <8hp3bc$kbl$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Frederica
> <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >In article <8hokvr$8it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > pre...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >> In article <393F1529...@mediaone.net>,
> >> Cat Murray <kamak...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> >> > I love you!!
> >> >
> >> > Blaing Saddles! "How did he do such GREAT STUNTS with such
> TINY
> >> FEET!?"
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oh, great! I bring up the BLAZING SADDLES quote, and Frederica
> gets the
> >> credit! I'm suing!!
> >
> >
> >You can't sue an Accredited Vamp, union regs prevent it.
> And...is it
> >twoo what they say about men of your color?
> >
> >Frederica
> >
>
> I will reply with the line that Mel had to cut out to get an R
> rating: "Uh, excuse me, ma'am, I suppose this might be what you
> had in mind...but you're sucking my arm."
>
> Mike S.
AHEM. The line is: "That's my arm." An Accredited Vamp knows an arm
when she...never mind.
precode
Y'know, you keep telling us you're accredited, but where's the
proof? Lemme see your damn credentials!
Mike S.
"Credentials? You want credentials? Five thousand years of
suffering!! How's that for a credential???"--Ted Wass (disguised
as a rabbi) on SOAP
frankl...@my-deja.com
although it is not complete by any means and I suspect the information
was the result of studio press releases which often managed to reduce
the actresses birthdate by a number of years so the odds of height
information being accurate has to be questioned.
Beowulf
May Wong as the great beauties of the era
SUQKRT
In article <0bf6bece...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com>, Frederica
<missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>In article <20000525003441...@ng-xb1.aol.com>,
>chan...@aol.com (ChaneyFan) wrote:
>>>>>5'5" is a tall for a woman in the 20s and 30s.
>>
>>I agree. That's exactly my point. Loretta Young, Garbo and
>others look
>>incredibly tall and lanky in the movies, but today standing
>next to someone
>>like Geena Davis (6') they would look like midgets.
>
>
>WHO YOU CALLIN' A MIDGET, FELLA???
>
>Frederica
>
ok i haven't given you guys a reason for putting me down lately, so guess i'll
skate further off topic. to qualify as a little person/dwarf (?sp blond moment)
person you must be under 4ft.10in. dwarf/dwarfism is the simple medical term.
There is 150 different types. Midget was/is a created term by circusses and the
general public for a person whose legs and arms are in proportion to their
body. my credentials are that I am a little person. 3ft 8.5in and a nearly
chunky 70lbs.
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suz #5A
macmoosette
90-95wu's 10 to go!
Shush
>I've been wondering if there were any other prominent little
>people working as actors in the silent era besides Harry
>Earles?
Angelo Rossitto appears in "The Beloved Rogue" and "In Old San
Francisco." He was still acting in the 1980s, with a good role in
"Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome."
--Shush--
Glamour Studios
a little person...aonther poster scoffed at that figure and it took me hours of
research to actually find her height (I remembered it being 4' 11").
Makes you realise how very small the actors playing Munchkins actually were!
Something else that is occasionally pointed out is the great number of movie actors
and actresses who were on the small side, with proportionally large heads...Bette
Davis, Humphrey Bogart amongst others. Apparently old wisdom was that smaller
people were easier to photograph effectively. I have noticed this phenomenon for
years with television personalities...Dick Cavett comes to mind, as does Julia
Louise-Dreyfuss, whose Elaine character even suffered thru an episode of Seinfeld
where she was called "Big-Head", and proceeded to have everyone in the world
suddenly notice her enormously disproportionate cranium (except for birds, who just
crashed into it!).
I've been wondering if there were any other prominent little people working as
actors in the silent era besides Harry Earles?
SUQKRT wrote:
> In article <0bf6bece...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com>, Frederica
> <missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >
> >In article <20000525003441...@ng-xb1.aol.com>,
> >chan...@aol.com (ChaneyFan) wrote:
> >>>>>5'5" is a tall for a woman in the 20s and 30s.
> >>
> >>I agree. That's exactly my point. Loretta Young, Garbo and
> >others look
> >>incredibly tall and lanky in the movies, but today standing
> >next to someone
> >>like Geena Davis (6') they would look like midgets.
> >
> >
> >WHO YOU CALLIN' A MIDGET, FELLA???
> >
> >Frederica
> >
>
> ok i haven't given you guys a reason for putting me down lately, so guess i'll
> skate further off topic. to qualify as a little person/dwarf (?sp blond moment)
> person you must be under 4ft.10in. dwarf/dwarfism is the simple medical term.
> There is 150 different types. Midget was/is a created term by circusses and the
> general public for a person whose legs and arms are in proportion to their
> body. my credentials are that I am a little person. 3ft 8.5in and a nearly
> chunky 70lbs.
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Mile Films
years with television personalities...Dick Cavett comes to mind >>
He's exactly five foot, six and 3/4 inches. I know this because he mentioned on
one of his shows that Woody Allen, Groucho Marx and several others along with
Cavett (I think Bogart was one as well) were exactly that height. It's also
mine --that's why it took three years to make the college volleyball team
though don't ask about the women's swim team.
At the same time, I prove that everybody that height is not, by any stretch,
media material.
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
email: Mile...@aol.com
David B. Pearson
This is a list of heights of silent film actresses, as compiled by John
Weaver's "Twenty Years of Silents: 1908-1928" (1971)
Some of the heights may be wrong, as Weaver died during the early production
of the book, and so there are probably some errors.
The averge height for the women listed is 5'4".
Daphne Pollard 4'9"
Lydia Yeamans Titus 4'9"
Marguerite Clark 4'10"
Miriam Cooper 4'10"
Ann Cornwall 4'10"
Florence Turner 4'10"
Barbara Kent 4'11"
Shirley Mason 4'11"
May McAvoy 4'11"
Viola Dana 4'11 1/2
Ann Brody 5'
Ann Christy 5'
Helen Foster 5'
Janet Gaynor 5'
Louise Huff 5'
Frances Lee 5'
Gladys Leslie 5'
Bessie Love 5'
Molly Malone 5'
Mabel Normand 5'
Ann Pennington 5'
Mary Pickford 5'
Sally Rand 5'
Vera Reynolds 5'
Billie Rhodes 5'
Constance Binney 5' 1/2"
Marguerite De La Motte 5' 1/2"
Renee Adoree 5'1"
Tsuru Aoki 5'1"
Lucy Beaumont 5'1"
Betty Bronson 5'1"
Edith Chapman 5'1"
Doris Dawson 5'1"
Virginia Brown Faire 5'1"
Margarita Fisher 5'1"
Greta Granstedt 5'1"
Francine Larrimore 5'1"
Louise Lorraine 5'1"
Edna Marion 5'1"
Marion Nixon 5'1"
Allene Roberts 5'1"
Norma Shearer 5'1"
Fannie Ward 5'1"
Pauline Garon 5'1 1/2
Ruth Renick 5'1 1/2
Edith Roberts 5'1 1/2
Alice Terry 5'1 1/2
Lillian Walker 5'1 1/2
Gladys Waffon 5'1 1/2
Bessie Barriscale 5'2"
Beverly Bayne 5'2"
Belle Bennett 5'2"
Mary Brian 5'2"
Mary Carr 5'2"
Gertrude Claire 5'2"
Alice Davenport 5'2"
Mildred Davis 5'2"
Lya De Putti 5'2"
Dorothy Devore 5'2"
Nancy Drexel 5'2"
Ann Forrest 5'2"
Neva Gerber 5'2"
Dorothy Gish 5'2"
Ena Gregory 5'2"
Dorothy Gulliver 5'2"
Gloria Hope 5'2"
Clara Horton 5'2"
Helen Kane 5'2"
Alice Lake 5'2"
Laura LaPlante 5'2"
Jeanette Loff 5'2"
Louise Lovely 5'2"
Cleo Madison 5'2"
Blanche Mahaffey 5'2"
Marguerite Marsh 5'2"
Mary Miles Minter 5'2"
Rhea Mitchell 5'2"
Lois Moran 5'2"
Edna Murphy 5'2"
Sally O'Neil 5'2"
Anita Page 5'2"
Mary Philbin 5'2"
Sally Phipps 5'2"
Teddy Sampson 5'2"
Ruth Stonehouse 5'2"
Natalie Talmadge 5'2"
Ruth Taylor 5'2"
Raquel Torres 5'2"
Alberta Vaughn 5'2"
Florence Vidor 5'2"
Alice White 5'2"
Laska Winters 5'2"
Jean Acker 5'2 1/2
Ora Carew 5'2 1/2
Betty Compson 5'2 1/2
Marguerite Courtot 5'2 1/2
Hazel Deane 5'2 1/2
Sally Eilers 5'2 1/2
Julia Faye 5'2 1/2
Jean Harlow 5'2 1/2
Doris Hill 5'2 1/2
Merna Kennedy 5'2 1/2
Mary McAllister 5'2 1/2
Patsy Ruth Miller 5'2 1/2
Molly O'Day 5'2 1/2
Lucille Ricksen 5'2 1/2
May Robson 5'2 1/2
Mabel Ballin 5'3"
Madge Bellamy 5'3"
Enid Bennett 5'3"
Sue Carol 5'3"
Ruth Clifford 5'3"
Lily Damita 5'3"
Marceline Day 5'3"
Dolores Del Rio 5'3"
Josephine Dunn 5'3"
Helen Ferguson 5'3"
Dale Fuller 5'3"
Hope Hampton 5'3"
Juanita Hansen 5'3"
Olive Hasbrouck 5'3"
Ormi Hawley 5'3"
Wanda Hawley 5'3"
Ruth Hiatt 5'3"
Edith Johnson 5'3"
Leatrice Joy 5'3"
Mary Kornman 5'3"
Lola Lane 5'3"
Lila Lee 5'3"
Frances Marion 5'3"
Mae Marsh 5'3"
Gertrude Messenger 5'3"
Marie Messenger 5'3"
Mae Murray 5'3"
Carmel Myers 5'3"
Alla Nazimova 5'3"
Mary Nolan 5'3"
Gertrude Olmstead 5'3"
Eileen Percy 5'3"
Jackie Saunders 5'3"
Violet Schram 5'3"
Dorothy Sebastian 5'3"
Eileen Sedgwick 5'3"
Gertrude Short 5'3"
Vera Steadman 5'3"
Olive Thomas 5'3"
Helen Twelvetrees 5'3"
Lenore Ulric 5'3"
Mabel Van Buren 5'3"
Winilred Westover 5'3"
Fay Wray 5'3"
Loretta Young 5'3"
Mary Alden 5'3 1/2
Lina Basquette 5'3 1/2
Clara Bow 5'3 1/2
Bebe Daniels 5'3 1/2
Grace Darmond 5'3 1/2
Florence Desmond 5'3 1/2
Pauline Frederick 5'3 1/2
Gene Gauntier 5'3 1/2
Barbara LaMarr 5'3 1/2
Lillian Leighton 5'3 1/2
Margaret Livingston 5'3 1/2
Helen Lynch 5'3 1/2
Edna Mayo 5'3 1/2
Gladys McConnell 5'3 1/2
Evelyn Nesbit 5'3 1/2
Dorothy Phillips 5'3 1/2
Allene Ray 5'3 1/2
Evelyn Selbie 5'3 1/2
Gloria Swanson 5'3 1/2
Mary Thurman 5'3 1/2
Jacqueline Wells 5'3 1/2
Katherine DeMille 5'3 3/4
Baclanova 5'4"
Barbara Bedford 5'4"
Constance Bennett 5'4"
Mary Boland 5'4"
Evelyn Brent 5'4"
Alice Calhoun 5'4"
Nancy Carroll 5'4"
Virginia Cherrill 5'4"
Dolores Costello 5'4"
Joan Crawford 5'4"
Grace Cunard 5'4"
Marie Doro 5'4"
Minta Durfee 5'4"
Eugenia Gilbert 5'4"
Lillian Gish 5'4"
Paulette Goddard 5'4"
Valentine Grant 5'4"
Gilda Gray 5'4"
Corinne Griffith 5'4"
Elaine Hammerstein 5'4"
Violet Heming 5'4"
Aggie Herring 5'4"
Gladys Hulette 5'4"
Dorothy Janis 5'4"
Kay Johnson 5'4"
Evalyn Knapp 5'4"
Lydia Knott 5'4"
Jacqueline Logan 5'4"
Sharon Lynn 5'4"
Mary MacLaren 5'4"
Martha Mansfield 5'4"
Enid Markey 5'4"
Claire McDowell 5'4"
Kathryn McGuire 5'4"
Violet Mesereau 5'4"
Polly Moran 5'4"
Marie Mosquini 5'4"
Pola Negri 5'4"
Vivienne Os borne 5'4"
Marie Prevost 5'4"
Aileen Pringle 5'4"
Edna Purviance 5'4"
Dorothy Revier 5'4"
Ruth Roland 5'4"
Martha Sleeper 5'4"
June Storey 5'4"
Blanche Sweet 5'4"
Norma Talmadge 5'4"
Thelma Todd 5'4"
Virginia Valli 5'4"
Claire Whitney 5'4"
Barbara Worth 5'4"
Julia Arthur 5'4 1/2
Agnes Ayres 5'4 1/2
Alma Bennett 5'4 1/2
Sally Blane 5'4 1/2
Lillian Bond 5'4 1/2
Rita Carewe 5'4 1/2
Dorothy Dalton 5'4 1/2
Marion Davies 5'4 1/2
Marjorie Daw 5'4 1/2
Hazel Dawn 5'4 1/2
Madge Evans 5'4 1/2
Louise Fazenda 5'4 1/2
Cissy Fitzgerald 5'4 1/2
Betty Francisco 5'4 1/2
Trixie Friganza 5'4 1/2
Carmelita Geraghty 5'4 1/2
Mildred Harris 5'4 1/2
Leila Hyams 5'4 1/2
Dorothy MacKaill 5'4 1/2
Margaret Mann 5'4 1/2
Greta Nissen 5'4 1/2
Ann Rork 5'4 1/2
Peggy Shannon 5'4 1/2
Estelle Taylor 5'4 1/2
Lola Todd 5'4 1/2
Anna May Wong 5'4 1/2
May Allison 5'5"
Mary Astor 5'5"
Ethel Barrymore 5'5"
Ethel Clayton 5'5"
June Collyer 5'5"
Virginia Lee Corbin 5'5"
Josephine Crowell 5'5"
Frances Dade 5'5"
Yola D'Avril 5'5"
Priscilla Dean 5'5"
Claudia Dell 5'5"
Carol Dempster 5'5"
Marlene Dietrich 5'5"
Billie Dove 5'5"
Marie Dressler 5'5"
Elinor Fair 5'5"
Dot Farley 5'5"
Flora Finch 5'5"
Louise Glaum 5'5"
Camilla Horn 5'5"
Zita Johann 5'5"
Joyzelle 5'5"
Madge Kennedy 5'5"
Kithou 5'5"
Nora Lane 5'5"
Fontaine LaRue 5'5"
Ida Lewis 5'5"
Doris Lloyd 5'5"
Anna Luther 5'5"
De Sacia Mooers 5'5"
Colleen Moore 5'5"
Eva Novak 5'5"
Elizabeth Patterson 5'5"
Olga Petrova 5'5"
Carmen Phillips 5'5"
Lottie Pickford 5'5"
Esther Ralston 5'5"
Lillian Rich 5'5"
Fritzie Ridgeway 5'5"
Rosa Rosanova 5'5"
Josie Sedgwick 5'5"
Marguerite Snow 5'5"
Anita Stewart 5'5"
Lilyan Tashman 5'5"
Viola Vale 5'5"
Hilda Vaughn 5'5"
Lupe Velez 5'5"
Kathlyn Williams 5'5"
Maude George 5'5 1/2
Dagmar Godowsky 5'5 1/2
Vera Gordon 5'5 1/2
Elsie Janis 5'5 1/2
Carole Lombard 5'5 1/2
June Marlowe 5'5 1/2
Rafaela Ottiano 5'5 1/2
Arline Pretty 5'5 1/2
Mabel Julienne Scott 5'5 1/2
Olive Tell 5'5 1/2
Barbara Tennant 5'5 1/2
Rosemary Theby 5'5 1/2
Ethel Wales 5'5 1/2
Lois Wilson 5'5 1/2
Jane Winton 5'5 1/2
Sylvia Ashton 5'6"
Vilma Banky 5'6"
Theda Bara 5'6"
Fair Binney 5'6"
Eleanor Boardman 5'6"
Marguerite Clayton 5'6"
Lucy Cotton 5'6"
Nell Craig 5'6"
Milla Davenport 5'6"
Ruby De Remer 5'6"
Helen Dunbar 5'6"
Geraldine Farrar 5'6"
Elsie Ferguson 5'6"
Eugenie Forde 5'6"
Greta Garbo 5'6"
Anita Garvin 5'6"
Helen Gibson 5'6"
Lucille Webster Gleason 5'6"
Edna Gregory 5'6"
Texas Guinan 5'6"
Evelyn Hall 5'6"
Virginia Hammond 5'6"
Gretchen Hartman 5'6"
Phyllis Haver 5'6"
Helen Holmes 5'6"
Julianne Johnston 5'6"
Hazel Keener 5'6"
Mayme Kelso 5'6"
Doris Kenyon 5'6"
Kathleen Key 5'6"
Natalie Kingston 5'6"
Ann Little 5'6"
Myrna Loy 5'6"
Hedda Nova 5'6"
Zasu Pitts 5'6"
Irene Rich 5'6"
Virginia Sale 5'6"
Rose Tapley 5'6"
Veree Teasdale 5'6"
Ethel Grey Terry 5'6"
Sophie Tucker 5'6"
Pearl White 5'6"
Clara Kimball Young 5'6"
Sunshine Hart 5'6 1/4
Edna Mae Cooper 5'6 1/2
Emily Fitzroy 5'6 1/2
Kate Price 5'6 1/2
Claire Windsor 5'6 1/2
Gertrude Astor 5'7"
Betty Blythe 5'7"
Alice Brady 5'7"
Sylvia Breamer 5'7"
Dolores Cassinelli 5'7"
Helene Chadwick 5'7"
Helene Costello 5'7"
Dorothy Cummings 5'7"
Louise Dressler 5'7"
Claire DuBrey 5'7"
Miss DuPont 5'7"
Helen Jerome Eddy 5'7"
Julia Swayne Gordon 5'7"
Jetta Goudal 5'7"
Hedda Hopper 5'7"
Alice Joyce 5'7"
Gail Kane 5'7"
Gretchen Lederer 5'7"
Gwen Lee 5'7"
Babe London 5'7"
Martha Mattox 5'7"
Anna Q. Nilsson 5'7"
Jane Novak 5'7"
Alma Rubens 5'7"
Clarissa Selwynne 5'7"
Myrtle Stedman 5'7"
Constance Talmadge 5'7"
Evelyn Thatcher 5'7"
Marcella Corday 5'7 1/2
Maude Turner Gordon 5'7 1/2
Edna May Oliver 5'7 1/2
Virginia Pearson 5'7 1/2
Marie Shotwell 5'7 1/2
Phyllis Allen 5'8"
Rose Dione 5'8"
Bess Flowers 5'8"
Eulalie Jensen 5'8"
Anna Lehr 5'8"
Vera Lewis 5'8"
Katherine MacDonald 5'8"
Nita Naldi 5'8"
Seena Owen 5'8"
Mary Treen 5'8"
Kathleen Kirkham 5'8"
Louise Carver 5'9"
June Elvidge 5'9"
Rosa Gore 5'9"
Gale Henry 5'9"
Madalaine Travers 5'9"
Charlotte Greenwood 5'9 1/2
Natalie Moorehead 5'10 1/2
Jobyna Howland 5'11"
Blanche Payson 6'2"
DBP
Frederica
While reading the beginning of this list, I was tall and willowy;
by the time I got to the end, I was short and dumpy. I should
have read it backward.
But more importantly, is this book still available, and is it a
good one?
Ferderica
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30s.
From a seller's description:
Credits for hundreds of silent film actors/actresses and directors/
producers. Also includes a 19-page section of "Vital Statistics" (i.e.,
height, weight, hair and eye color) for actors and actresses, with a
separate list for directors. (M abel Norman and Mary Pickford were both just
5 feet tall; Buster Keaton was a relative giant, at 5'-5"!) Also includes a
list of "Silent Film Studios, Corporations and Distributors," divided
between West Coast and East Coast companies.
- Rob
Frederica <missmerriv...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:0659e47a...@usw-ex0104-031.remarq.com...
sbe...@shaw.ca
> This is a list of heights of silent film actresses, as compiled by John
> Weaver's "Twenty Years of Silents: 1908-1928" (1971)
> Some of the heights may be wrong, as Weaver died during the early production
> of the book, and so there are probably some errors.
>
> The averge height for the women listed is 5'4".
>
> June Collyer 5'5"
> Virginia Lee Corbin 5'5"
> Josephine Crowell 5'5"
> Frances Dade 5'5"
> Yola D'Avril 5'5"
> Priscilla Dean 5'5"
> Claudia Dell 5'5"
> Carol Dempster 5'5"
> Marlene Dietrich 5'5"
> Billie Dove 5'5"
> Marie Dressler 5'5"
> Elinor Fair 5'5"
> Dot Farley 5'5"
> Flora Finch 5'