Any Our Gang / Little Rascals fans?
Brian Hendricks
This used to be a pretty neat site but went dormant for the past couple of
years, and tonight I went to visit it and see that it is now gone. Can
anyone offer an alternative site that they enjoy that concerns these great
Hal Roach comedies?
Brian
Laughing Gravy
There is absolutely NO child that won't watch the Little Rascals, and
this is how I've always turned kids on to "old B&W movies." Start with
the Rascals, mix in an occasional Laurel & Hardy, then Buster Keaton,
Betty Boop, THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, Charlie Chaplin, and whatever
else you wanna introduce 'em to. Can't fail.
I've got the six Our Gang DVDs released in Canada (which comprised
vols. 1-12 of the video tape set) and vols 13-21 on tape. That's the
whole run of talkie Hal Roach-produced Rascals shorts. We are mid-way
through our second sequential watching of the films.
Here's a dozen of my favorite Our Gang shorts, in chronological order:
1. SHIVERING SHAKESPEARE (1930) The Gang stars in a rendition of "Quo
Vadis," and Chubby prints his dialogue on his nightshirt: "What ho!
Bring on the dancing girls!"
2. TEACHER'S PET (1930) The kids prepare a rude welcome for their new
teacher, Miss Crabtree. Jackie Cooper's finest moment with the Gang.
3. LOVE BUSINESS (1931) Jackie and Chubby ("Call me Chubbsie-Ubbsie!")
are rivals for Miss Crabtree. One of the flat-out funniest of all the
Our Gang pictures ("Darling! Can't you hear the pleas in my whispers?"
"Yes, I can hear the fleas in your whiskers!") and look for the movie
poster of the lovers locked in hot embrace: it's Thelma Todd and
Charley Chase!
4. SHIVER MY TIMBERS (1931) The Gang wants to run away and become
pirates. Stymie is sidesplitting ("Cap'n, we kinda done lost our taste
for bein' pirates!").
5. DOGS IS DOGS (1931) My personal favorite; this is the one I've
always used to introduce the Rascals to young people. Wheezer and
Dorothy are the victims of a wicked stepmother; Wheezer's stepbrother,
the spoiled Sherwood, falls down a well and Stymie makes ham and eggs
talk.
6. SPANKY (1932) While the Gang puts on their rendition of "Uncle
Tom's Cabin," li'l Spanky goes after bugs with a hammer.
7. BIRTHDAY BLUES (1932) Dickie and Stymie bake a prize-filled cake to
raise money for a dress for Dickie's mother. Remember the stove that
goes "BWEEE-BWAAAB"?
8. THE KID FROM BORNEO (1933) The laugh-out-loud funniest of all
Little Rascals films; the Gang brings home "Uncle George," unaware
that he's really the carnival Wild Man.
9. THE FIRST ROUND-UP (1934) The Rascals go camping, but only little
Spanky and Scotty are prepared.
10. MAMA'S LITTLE PIRATE (1934) Another laugh riot, as the kids are
trapped in a cave with a giant.
11. OUR GANG FOLLIES OF 1936 (1935) The Gang puts on one of their
patented variety revues. The first appearance of Darla Hood. "We want
the Flory-Dories!"
12. PAY AS YOU EXIT (1936) Spanky, Alfalfa and Buckwheat give us their
rendition of "Romeo and Juliet."
James Neibaur
at Laughing...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/6/03 9:48 AM:
> Here's a dozen of my favorite Our Gang shorts, in chronological order:
>
> 1. SHIVERING SHAKESPEARE (1930) The Gang stars in a rendition of "Quo
> Vadis," and Chubby prints his dialogue on his nightshirt: "What ho!
> Bring on the dancing girls!"
I always liked that one too. The slow motion pies in the face are
delightfully surreal.
> 2. TEACHER'S PET (1930) The kids prepare a rude welcome for their new
> teacher, Miss Crabtree. Jackie Cooper's finest moment with the Gang.
I am the only one who dislikes this one. I don't see much of a difference
between Jackie Cooper blubbering "gosh yer purty Miz Crabtree" and Mickey
Gubitosi weeping because his parents argue too much over hash.
> 3. LOVE BUSINESS (1931) Jackie and Chubby ("Call me Chubbsie-Ubbsie!")
> are rivals for Miss Crabtree. One of the flat-out funniest of all the
> Our Gang pictures ("Darling! Can't you hear the pleas in my whispers?"
> "Yes, I can hear the fleas in your whiskers!") and look for the movie
> poster of the lovers locked in hot embrace: it's Thelma Todd and
> Charley Chase!
"Oh Chubsie Ubsie, you're gonna find something heavy on your nose!" One of
my favorites.
> 8. THE KID FROM BORNEO (1933) The laugh-out-loud funniest of all
> Little Rascals films; the Gang brings home "Uncle George," unaware
> that he's really the carnival Wild Man.
A very funny one that is rarely revived, due to the monster known as
Political Correctness.
I also like When The Wind Blows, The First Seven Years, and Boxing Gloves.
I seem to like the Jackie Cooper period better than the Spanky-Alfalfa one.
And I probably like the silents best of all.
JN
RPalmer151
>And I probably like the silents best of all.
I noticed that Grapevine has a number of volumes of the silent Our Gang. Has
anybody seen any of these? How is the quality?
rogerP.
R H Draney
>
>I noticed that Grapevine has a number of volumes of the silent Our Gang. Has
>anybody seen any of these? How is the quality?
Richard M Roberts showed a couple of the Grapevine-supplied shorts on his cable
access show a few years ago...considering their age and the complete lack of
attention the cable company shows towards broadcast quality on the
public-service channel (I once watched someone deliver a lecture with absolutely
no audio), they looked pretty decent to me...I'm going to have to set out on a
crash buying course and pick these up real soon....
Out of 169 films in the period covered by either this series or the 21-tape
Maltin VHS set (everything up to 1938's "Hide and Shriek"), I count forty not in
either collection...can anybody shed some light on just which early Our Gangs
are now lost?...the holes in Grapevine's series seem pretty evenly spread over
the entire silent period, with one suspicious gap of six consecutive shorts
covering late '24/early '25....r
LonnieN
best quality rascals prints I have ever seen.
I have always loved the Rascals - I even watched them last year when they
were (briefly) on AMC, hosted by that living DEVIL BOY, Frankie Munez. God,
I hated that kid!!!!! I used to think, every time I watched an AMC
episode, that sometimes progress does NOT mean more talent - look at the
difference between the talented, unaffected, unassuming kids in the Rascals
shorts, and the smug, self-satisfied, know-it-all "I'm So cool" attitude of
that THINK called Frankie.
GOD, HOW I LOATHED THAT KID!!!!!!!
Lonnie N.
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Eric Stott
LonnieN wrote:
> The Leonard Maltin-hosted "Cabin Fever" releases were terrific - with the
> best quality rascals prints I have ever seen.
>
> I have always loved the Rascals - I even watched them last year when they
> were (briefly) on AMC, hosted by that living DEVIL BOY, Frankie Munez. God,
> I hated that kid!!!!! I used to think, every time I watched an AMC
> episode, that sometimes progress does NOT mean more talent - look at the
> difference between the talented, unaffected, unassuming kids in the Rascals
> shorts, and the smug, self-satisfied, know-it-all "I'm So cool" attitude of
> that THINK called Frankie.
> GOD, HOW I LOATHED THAT KID!!!!!!!
>
> Lonnie N.
OK, Frankie Muniz WAS pretty loathsome doing those intros- but don't blame him
entirely. He didn't write that crap and he was probably giving AMC what they
wanted- Smartass Circa 2002.
What REALLY raised my dander was that they edited the shorts to shreds.
Stott
Bobster123
>I also like When The Wind Blows, The First Seven Years, and Boxing Gloves.
How could everyone overlook DIVOT DIGGERS- the all-time best Rascals short, in
my opinion (and the only one I've owned on both 8mm and 16mm).
Erica
>
> I also like When The Wind Blows, The First Seven Years, and Boxing Gloves.
> I seem to like the Jackie Cooper period better than the Spanky-Alfalfa one.
> And I probably like the silents best of all.
>
> JN
Having grown up on the talkies, I was amazed at how entertaining I
found the one silent Our Gang I've seen so far. "Dogs of War" was so
wonderfully surreal, with it's miniature WWI parody, and the strange
film the kids made as they tried to get into pictures, not to mention
the cameo by dear old Harold. I have him to thank for introducing me
to the original Our Gang kids (I have him to thank for introducing me
to silents in general, but that's a different story.)
ChaneyFan
this is how I've always turned kids on to "old B&W movies." Start with
the Rascals, mix in an occasional Laurel & Hardy, then Buster Keaton,
Betty Boop, THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, Charlie Chaplin, and whatever
else you wanna introduce 'em to. Can't fail.
Actually, I think Laurel & Hardy is even easier to start kids on, then move to
Our Gang. I ran THE MUSIC BOX for my kids and my 9-year old, who usually
grumbles about "another old b/w film" fell out of his chair laughing and begged
me to run it again.
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James Neibaur
chan...@aol.com wrote on 8/7/03 12:23 AM:
> Actually, I think Laurel & Hardy is even easier to start kids on, then move to
> Our Gang. I ran THE MUSIC BOX for my kids and my 9-year old, who usually
> grumbles about "another old b/w film" fell out of his chair laughing and
> begged
> me to run it again.
I agree. I often run Laurel and Hardy in the classroom and even those
students who initially balk at seeing a black and white film are won over
within the first five minutes.
JN
Joe Moore
> >
> >I noticed that Grapevine has a number of volumes of the silent Our Gang. Has
> >anybody seen any of these? How is the quality?
>
> Richard M Roberts showed a couple of the Grapevine-supplied shorts on his cable
> access show a few years ago...considering their age and the complete lack of
> attention the cable company shows towards broadcast quality on the
> public-service channel (I once watched someone deliver a lecture with absolutely
> no audio), they looked pretty decent to me...I'm going to have to set out on a
> crash buying course and pick these up real soon....
Actually we only ran one OUR GANG short (THE CHAMPEEN-1922) in our
1995-98 No Budget Public Access series JUST FOR LAUGHS. Rich hosted
and wrote most of the episodes. I co-directed & co-edited (with Larry
LoPresti), produced and occassionally wrote episodes of the series.
Some episodes are still running in Phoenix. The Public Access people
can't always be blamed for the quality of what they broadcast either
as some of the material they are given has pretty awful audio and
video problems to begin with.
A list of the complete series is below.
>
JUST FOR LAUGHS-Episode Guide
1. WANDERING WILLIES-1926-Sennett/Pathe-(Andy Clyde, Billy Bevan)
2. THE SAWMILL-1921-Vitagraph-(Larry Semon, Oliver Hardy)
3. HIS WOODEN WEDDING-1925-Roach/Pathe-(Charley Chase)
4. MOVE ALONG-1926-Educational-(Lloyd Hamilton)
5. GETTING AN EYEFUL-1938-Educational-(Charles Kemper, Danny Kaye)
6. BOOBS IN THE WOOD-1925-Sennett/Pathe-(Harry Langdon, Vernon Dent)
7. BARNEY OLDFIELD'S RACE FOR LIFE-1913-Sennett/Keystone-(Mabel
Normand, Ford Sterling) & MABEL'S NEW
HERO-1913-(Sennett/Keystone-(Mabel Normand, Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle)
8.POLICE-1916-Essanay-(Charlie Chaplin)
9. HAUNTED SPOOKS-1920-Roach/Pathe-(Harold Lloyd)
10. MAID TROUBLE-1946-RKO-(Leon Errol) & PERPETUAL
MOTION-1920-Fleischer-(Koko the Klown)
11. THE LUCKY DOG-1921-Sun-Lite/Reelcraft-(Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy)
12. PAY OR MOVE-1924-Grand Asher-(Monty Banks)
13. BACKSTAGE-1919-Comique/Paramount-(Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle, Buster
Keaton, Al St. John)
14. A ROMAN SCANDAL-1919-Christie-(Colleen Moore)
15. A NIGHT IN A DORMITORY-1929-Pathe-Ginger Rogers)
16. LISTEN LENA-1927-Educational-(Al St. John)
17. THE CHAMPEEN-1923-Roach/Pathe-(Our Gang)
18. HIZZONER-1933-RKO-(Bert Lahr)
19. MAX AND THE QUINQUINA-1911-Pathe-(Max Linder) & MAX LEARNS TO
SKATE- 1905-Pathe-(Max Linder)
20. HIS DAY OUT-1918-King Bee-(Billy West, Oliver Hardy)
21. BIG GAME-1921-Roach/Pathe-(Snub Pollard) & IT'S A
GIFT-1923-Roach/Pathe-(Snub Pollard)
22. POISONED IVORY-1934-RKO-(Edgar Kennedy)
23. SPANKING BREEZES-1926-Sennett/Pathe-(Alice Day)
24. PHONEY CANNIBAL-1915-Kalem-(Ham and Bud) & WHIRLWIND OF
WHISKERS-1917- Kalem-(Ham and Bud)
25. MANY UNHAPPY RETURNS-1937-RKO-(Ford Sterling)
26. GUSSLE'S WAYWARD PATH-1915-Sennett/Keystone-(Syd Chaplin) & HIGH
SEAS-1928- Terry/Pathe-(Terrytoon)
27. KILL OR CURE-1923-Roach/Pathe-(Stan Laurel) & DARK
HORSE-1923-Terry/Pathe-(Terrytoon)
28. PRIDE OF PIKEVILLE-1927-Sennett/Pathe-(Ben Turpin)
29. MAID IN MOROCCO-1925-Educational-(Lupino Lane)
30. CRAZY LIKE A FOX-1926-Roach/Pathe-(Charley Chase, Oliver Hardy)
31. ASK DAD-1929-Educational-(Edward Everett Horton)
32. DIZZY HEIGHTS AND DARING HEARTS-1916-Sennett/Keystone-(Chester
Conklin)
> Out of 169 films in the period covered by either this series or the 21-tape
> Maltin VHS set (everything up to 1938's "Hide and Shriek"), I count forty not in
> either collection...can anybody shed some light on just which early Our Gangs
> are now lost?...the holes in Grapevine's series seem pretty evenly spread over
> the entire silent period, with one suspicious gap of six consecutive shorts
> covering late '24/early '25....r
All of the Pathe OUR GANG silent shorts (1922-28) are extant although
not all of them in complete form. Seven of the MGM shorts
(1927-29)are still missing including YALE VS HARVARD-27, HEEBEE
JEEBEES-27, EDISON, MARCONI AND CO.-28, FAIR AND MUDDY-28, GROWING
PAINS-28, SCHOOL BEGINS-28 and THE HOLY TERROR-28.
Joe Moore
Karamzin
> >>>There is absolutely NO child that won't watch the Little Rascals, and
> this is how I've always turned kids on to "old B&W movies." Start with
> the Rascals, mix in an occasional Laurel & Hardy, then Buster Keaton,
> Betty Boop, THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, Charlie Chaplin, and whatever
> else you wanna introduce 'em to. Can't fail.
>
> Actually, I think Laurel & Hardy is even easier to start kids on, then move to
> Our Gang. I ran THE MUSIC BOX for my kids and my 9-year old, who usually
> grumbles about "another old b/w film" fell out of his chair laughing and begged
> me to run it again.
I realize this is prehistoric, but as a pre-schooler watching tv in
the early 1960s I much preferred Laurel & Hardy, the Abbott & Costello
half-hour show, and The Three Stooges to The Little Rascals/Our Gang,
and a major reason was that I seldomn understood what "the Gang" was
saying. Very off-putting to a kid.
My favorites are the silents and early talkies (until Spanky stops
wearing golf togs and becomes the nominal "leader" with Alfalfa at his
beck and call). After that point, I can't watch them. As to the
individual kids, Farina in the silents and early talkies, and Stymie
in his prime were especially wonderful performers.
Ed Watz
James Neibaur
jos...@juno.com wrote on 8/7/03 7:00 AM:
> All of the Pathe OUR GANG silent shorts (1922-28) are extant although
> not all of them in complete form.
Are some of them only available as part of the old Michief Makers series?
In that case, the folks who did that series were unwittingly preserving the
films (albeit in truncated form)
JN
Laughing Gravy
talkies... and coincidentally, it is our next short to watch in our
chronological retrospective. I certainly didn't mean that the ten
shorts I listed were the ONLY excellent Rascals comedies, just being
arbitrary. And yes, we watch the silents from time to time and enjoy
'em a lot, especially the antics of Farina.
WHEN THE WIND BLOWS is the only Our Gang film directed by James W.
Horne.
The Laurel & Hardy films that the kids find the funniest (and watch
even when I'm not around) are LIBERTY and THEM THAR HILLS.
R H Draney
>
>My favorites are the silents and early talkies (until Spanky stops
>wearing golf togs and becomes the nominal "leader" with Alfalfa at his
>beck and call). After that point, I can't watch them. As to the
>individual kids, Farina in the silents and early talkies, and Stymie
>in his prime were especially wonderful performers.
There was something about Alfalfa that bothered me from the very beginning...I
agree with you about Stymie (in a fair world he would have gone on to be a big
star as an adult)...I'd say the same about Sunshine Sammy in the silents...Mary
Kornman was naturally charming in a way that Darla Hood could never pull off....
Least favorite?...toss-up between Chubby Chaney and Dorothy DeBorba...the "echo"
routine got on my nerves from the first time I heard it....r
Tommie Hicks, Jr.
would really shake me up. I saw this again a couple of months ago and
it still tugged my heart.
My favorite latter Roach - Our Gang is RUSHIN' BALLET (1937).
I remember visiting some cousins in Abeline Texas as a kid and their
TV station aired only the MGM shorts. I remember thinking "Froggy's
great, but these kids just ain't funny!" MGM really ruined that
series.
Tommie Hicks
"Dems my mammy's maters"
Buckwheat Thomas 1937
James Neibaur
wrote on 8/7/03 11:25 AM:
> There was something about Alfalfa that bothered me from the very beginning...I
> agree with you about Stymie (in a fair world he would have gone on to be a big
> star as an adult)...I'd say the same about Sunshine Sammy in the
> silents...Mary
> Kornman was naturally charming in a way that Darla Hood could never pull
> off....
I don't see how Darla was any better than Janet Burston in the MGMs. I do
feel Burston got something of a bad rap in that the forced cuteness of the
post-Roach MGM Our Gang shorts had already started during the
Spanky-as-leader period that Ed Watz described in his post.
> Least favorite?...toss-up between Chubby Chaney and Dorothy DeBorba...the
> "echo"
> routine got on my nerves from the first time I heard it....r
I liked both of them.
JN
James Neibaur
Jr. at homes...@netburner.net wrote on 8/7/03 12:30 PM:
> When I watched these "Little Rascals" on TV as a kid, THE POOCH (1932)
> would really shake me up. I saw this again a couple of months ago and
> it still tugged my heart.
On Chicago TV during the sixties they edited the shorts so poorly that The
Pooch would abruptly end after the man says, "Yer dog is dead!" Yikes!
JN
Richard M Roberts
That they were. There are indeed several Our Gang Pathe's that seem to
only survive in Mischief makers form. There was also the Scallawags
television series that preserved several of them as well as a number of
Educational's Big Boy Comedies. (and those versions retained the
original intertitles).Others were preserved only in Kodascope or
Pathegrams editions, and many were put out by Excel/Exclusive Home
Products in Chicago during the forties, and good ol' Charlie Tarbox at
Film Classics Exchange had a bunch of them as well.
I have somewhere around forty of the Pathe Our Gangs. I remember when
UCLA was announcing the discovery of the "lost" Our Gang FAST COMPANY, I
ran to my shelf to make sure my Excel print of it was still there.
RICHARD M ROBERTS
I
James Neibaur
repro...@earthlink.net wrote on 8/7/03 1:02 PM:
> That they were. There are indeed several Our Gang Pathe's that seem to
> only survive in Mischief makers form. There was also the Scallawags
> television series that preserved several of them as well as a number of
> Educational's Big Boy Comedies. (and those versions retained the
> original intertitles).Others were preserved only in Kodascope or
> Pathegrams editions, and many were put out by Excel/Exclusive Home
> Products in Chicago during the forties, and good ol' Charlie Tarbox at
> Film Classics Exchange had a bunch of them as well
It is interesting that those truncated versions made for television have
turned out to be the only existing film on some silent comedy titles. I am
assuming the same can be said for Funny Manns, Comedy Capers, Chuckleheads,
et. al.
JN
StormChaser
a symptom of Hal Roach's absence in the series.
Under Hal Roach, Froggy would not have been
rejected but instead used in very small doses.
Favorite Temp Leader In Series:
Dickie Moore
Favorite Supporting Adults:
Edgar Kennedy
June Marlow
Max Davidson
Interesting Lines in the series:
"I know but I'm not going to tell you."
Max Davidson
MOAN & GROAN, INC. (1929)
"Do you washee clothesee? Well maybe he
he don't understand Chinese."
Stymie
WASHEE IRONEE (1934)
"I wish Cotton was a monkey. I wish Cotton
was a monkey"
Spanky
A LAD AN' A LAMP (1932)
Favorite Locations:
Miss Crabtree's Schoolhouse
The Boxing Ring
The Amusement Park
The Football Field
The Radio Station
The Clubhouse
Mark
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James Neibaur
StormChaser at golg...@earthlink.net wrote on 8/7/03 5:10 PM:
> Favorite Supporting Adults:
>
> Edgar Kennedy
> June Marlow
> Max Davidson
I always thought June played it straight, and rather badly. Kennedy and
Davidson are always good in anything. I'd also include Blanche Payson, and
I thought Dell Henderson was quite funny in Choo Choo
JN
William Hooper
> chan...@aol.com (ChaneyFan) wrote in message news:<20030807012350...@mb-m19.aol.com>...
> > >>>There is absolutely NO child that won't watch the Little Rascals, and
> > this is how I've always turned kids on to "old B&W movies." Start with
> > the Rascals, mix in an occasional Laurel & Hardy, then Buster Keaton,
> > Betty Boop, THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, Charlie Chaplin, and whatever
> > else you wanna introduce 'em to. Can't fail.
> >
> > Actually, I think Laurel & Hardy is even easier to start kids on, then move to
> > Our Gang. I ran THE MUSIC BOX for my kids and my 9-year old, who usually
> > grumbles about "another old b/w film" fell out of his chair laughing and begged
> > me to run it again.
>
> I realize this is prehistoric, but as a pre-schooler watching tv in
> the early 1960s I much preferred Laurel & Hardy, the Abbott & Costello
> half-hour show, and The Three Stooges to The Little Rascals/Our Gang,
> and a major reason was that I seldomn understood what "the Gang" was
> saying. Very off-putting to a kid.
Same here. I was no fan of them as a child, but as an adult I can
appreciate them on a basis of noting their construction. My earliest
memory of headaches as a child was trying to watch the Little Rascals
when they were on instead of Laurel & Hardy, Universal horror movies,
Warner Brothers cartoons, or even WB dramas. They're just labored,
from unnatural performances (to a child's eye), maniac meat cleaver
editing, & excrutiatingly long, tortuous setups, and often just failed
sillines.
James Neibaur
w...@mindless.com wrote on 8/7/03 5:43 PM:
> They're just labored,
> from unnatural performances (to a child's eye), maniac meat cleaver
> editing, & excrutiatingly long, tortuous setups, and often just failed
> sillines.
I still am not crazy about the Spanky-Alfalfa period so much. I think they
were good until around 1932 or so.
JN
Brent Walker
I enjoy Chubby, but I always feel a little uncomfortable laughing at
him because (like Rondo Hatton) the very thing that got him cast in
the series is the same thing that killed him at a young age.
I go back and forth between the prime 1922-24 silent era lineup and
the Jackie Cooper and Dickie Moore led talkie eras being favorites
(with the Stymie-Spanky-Scotty era in there too). I too find the
later Roach Spanky, Alfalfa, et al to be the least of the Roach films.
Normally, I would say it was unfair to compare them because they were
more cheaply made one-reelers...but that's when the gang won an Oscar
and is the lineup that most people remember. I think the "sit-com"
nature of the later Roach's--with the same kids playing the same
roles--is WHY people remember them more, and to be fair they do have
plenty of great moments (mostly thanks to Buckwheat and Porky) but are
no match for the more freeform earlier two-reelers.
Am I alone in enjoying Alfalfa more as an obnoxious teenager (GOING MY
WAY, MY FAVORITE BLONDE) and an adult redneck character (as in THE
DEFIANT ONES) than as a kid? (When I see him in THE DEFIANT ONES,
annoying Theodore Bikel with the rock and roll on his transitor radio,
it's not a stretch to visualize him in the situation that led to his
demise a year later.)
Brent Walker
Eric Stott
James Neibaur wrote:
I think June Marlow was a poor sound actress, but she got by on beauty and what
seems to be genuine charm and good heartedness. But casting Creighton Hale as
her brother really puzzles me.
Stott
Erica
MGM was really good a ruining things, weren't they. Laurel and Hardy,
Buster, Our Gang...
Or am I being unfair?
Erica
James Neibaur
scrib...@yahoo.com wrote on 8/7/03 6:22 PM:
> MGM was really good a ruining things, weren't they. Laurel and Hardy,
> Buster, Our Gang...
>
> Or am I being unfair?
No, and you can toss in The Marx Brothers.
JN
R H Draney
Then add two egg whites, half a cup of heavy cream, some finely chopped red
peppers, and one packet of Good Seasons Italian salad dressing mix....r
Eric Stott
R H Draney wrote:
I'd rather have Hard Boiled Eggs and Nuts.
Neil Midkiff
And one duck egg.
-Neil Midkiff
Shemp
I always liked the early thirties Our Gang too...
As someone else mentioned....the "weep wow" sound is the best sound effect
I've ever heard. ;-)
Shemp
Joe C.
the URL. There are about 11 unique pages from the site cataloged from
1998-2002.
Hope this helps,
Joe C.
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> Also, does anyone know where http://www.ramseyltd.com/rascals/ has gone?
> This used to be a pretty neat site but went dormant for the past couple of
> years, and tonight I went to visit it and see that it is now gone. Can
> anyone offer an alternative site that they enjoy that concerns these great
> Hal Roach comedies?
>
> Brian
>
>
Joe C.
Sorry.
Joe C.
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> > Also, does anyone know where http://www.ramseyltd.com/rascals/ has
gone?
> > This used to be a pretty neat site but went dormant for the past couple
of
> > years, and tonight I went to visit it and see that it is now gone. Can
> > anyone offer an alternative site that they enjoy that concerns these
great
> > Hal Roach comedies?
> >
> > Brian
>
> this is how I've always turned kids on to "old B&W movies." Start with
> the Rascals, mix in an occasional Laurel & Hardy, then Buster Keaton,
> Betty Boop, THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, Charlie Chaplin, and whatever
> else you wanna introduce 'em to. Can't fail.
>
> vols. 1-12 of the video tape set) and vols 13-21 on tape. That's the
> whole run of talkie Hal Roach-produced Rascals shorts.
Where can I find those Canadian DVDs? What is the actual title of the set?
They sound fabulous! Also, has there been a DVD release of any of the
silent Rascals shorts? If not, is Grapevine the best place to get them? I
haven't watched these films since I was a kid, over 20 years ago...sigh...
WaverBoy
All I can find besides the Goodtimes DVDs (which I'm a little leery of) are
the two Artisan DVDs (the second of which isn't out until later this month).
The first one, consisting of 8 films, comprises vols. 1 & 2 of the Hallmark
VHS set hosted by Leonard Maltin. The second one consists of ten films, and
doesn't say anything about Leonard on the cover. It has 3 films from vol. 3
(TEACHER'S PET, SCHOOL'S OUT, & SPOOKY HOOKY), but is missing LOVE BUSINESS,
3 films from vol. 4 (READIN' AND WRITIN', THE KID FROM BORNEO, SPRUCIN' UP),
but missing PAY AS YOU EXIT, 1 film from vol. 5 (DOGS IS DOGS), 1 film from
vol. 9 (THE POOCH), 1 film from vol. 10 (FOR PETE'S SAKE), and 1 film not on
any of the VHS volumes: DOG HEAVEN, a silent Rascals short. I wonder why,
after bundling the VHS volumes for the first DVD, why they started mixing
them up for the second DVD, along with dropping the Maltin intro? At least
they threw on a silent!
Max Nineteennineteen
fairly easy to find on Ebay as a new closeout (or was 6 months ago,
anyway).
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Brent Walker
I also enjoy the bizarre silent/sound intercut aspects of the 1929 Our
Gang talkies, especially BOXING GLOVES. When I was a kid, that one
always fascinated me because I felt like I was peering into some other
dimension.
Brent Walker
Max Nineteennineteen
Is Dog Heaven the one where Petey is going to hang himself and it's
all told in flashback why? (I'm not joking.) I hope so, it's a
jawdropper.
Bill Coleman
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>Gang talkies, especially BOXING GLOVES. When I was a kid, that one
>always fascinated me because I felt like I was peering into some other
>dimension.
>
>Brent Walker
>
I've often wondered about that short. I suspect the silent scenes were
necessary because of the delicate nature of early microphones. It seems the
scenes that are silent are when the boxing crowd appears to be yelling loudly.
Perhaps this was the reason.
WaverBoy
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> Also:
>
> http://www.moviedr.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=LRDVD
Thanks!!!
R H Draney
I have an unrelated Rascals question....
Does the structure that housed the Our Gang restaurant still stand, and if so,
where, and what's it being used for now?...or if not, what's on the site?...r
WaverBoy
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> Okay, so this one time? In band camp? WaverBoy was all, like:
> >
> >
> >"Bill Coleman" <sp...@elsewhere.com> wrote in message
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> >> Also:
> >>
> >> http://www.moviedr.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=LRDVD
> >
> >
> >Thanks!!!
Ya lost me, Coach.
Brian Hendricks
been away. How fascinating to read so much information that I didn't know
before now, and to read so many different opinions about this series that I
love so much.
Brian
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Biff McKeldin
says...
>
>When I watched these "Little Rascals" on TV as a kid, THE POOCH (1932)
>would really shake me up. I saw this again a couple of months ago and
>it still tugged my heart.
"The Pooch" is my personal favorite OUR GANG film. I remember years and years
ago watching this on TV with my mother in the room (she didn't usually hang
around for the kiddie shows), and how much this short affected her.
As a kid my favorites were the Spanky/Alfalfa one-reelers. Upon rediscovering
the shorts in the early and mid-90's courtesy of Cabin Fever, my allegiance
shifted to the early talkies with Jackie Cooper, Dickie Moore and *especially*
Stymie (who was probably the most talented of all the kids). The
Farina-and-Stymie-centered short, "Little Daddy," was the most significant find
from the Cabin Fever series. Apparently this great film was never part of the
syndication package--at any rate I never remembered having seen it before.
Biff
James Neibaur
mcke...@yahoo.com wrote on 8/12/03 10:32 AM:
> The
> Farina-and-Stymie-centered short, "Little Daddy," was the most significant
> find
> from the Cabin Fever series. Apparently this great film was never part of the
> syndication package--at any rate I never remembered having seen it before.
I used to see it during the early sixties, but it got pulled by the end of
that decade.
"Did Noah have a brother named Yeah?"
JN
Jeff C.
>>would really shake me up. I saw this again a couple of months ago and
>>it still tugged my heart.
You've pinpointed a lovely quality that's all but unique to the "Our Gang"
films... and especially to those of us who've had these movies drift in and out
of our lives from childhood onward.
It's so easy to pluck a few isolated moments from these films out of memory,
and allow them to romp across the mind's eye... as vibrant and funny, or almost
lyrical and plaintive as they were upon first viewing:
Wheezer trotting through an almost surreal looking neighborhood of gargantuan
warehouses, searching for his little canine playmates, in PUPS IS PUPS, and
ultimately embracing them on the steps of a cathedral, all to a beautifully
convoluted background score...
The sunny, cheerful outdoor settings of BEAR SHOOTERS and LAZY DAYS, both of
which instantly dredge up memories of childhood's endless summers, when
anything seemed possible...
The dark, brooding world of LITTLE DADDY and surprisingly detailed settings in
A TOUGH WINTER, which forever remains paired with L&H's BELOW ZERO in my mind,
simply because I first saw them together...
And, most of all, the final moments of SCHOOL'S OUT... a tearful and
guilt-ridden Jackie Cooper weeping hot tears beneath a tree... the soft breeze
rustling Mrs. Crabtree's diaphanous skirt... her forgiving smile... and that
precious fade-out as Cooper drops the cake his teacher brought him! All
sounds horribly saccharine, but the scene brings on tears every time I see it.
Timeless and lovely, all of it... a childhood preserved on film.
J e f f
Brent Walker
Channel 52 "Corona/Los Angeles" used to show LITTLE DADDY as part of
it regular rotation of King World Rascal shorts, up through about
1975-76 at least.
Brent Walker
William Ferry
always felt, in general, the best films have the best stories. While I often
apply this caveat to animated features, I think it can be applied to
comedies as well. Often, the least memorable or weakest films (Semon's
comedies as a whole, Lloyd's HOT WATER, L & H's PARDON US) have the loosest
story construction. Or, as Hal Roach put it when explaining why his features
were comparatively short, "I don't care how funny a guy is, sooner or later,
you're gonna get tired of him."
This is not to knock the examples I gave as worthless; it's just that the
parts are greater than the whole. Something like WAY OUT WEST, or the Miss
Crabtree episodes have funny gags, but solid plots, with setups, conflict,
and resolution.
For what my opinion is worth, I have a soft spot for those early 30's
McGowan shorts, too. Dickie Moore and Jackie Cooper were fine little actors,
but still acted naturally (if that's not a contradiction in terms), and kept
the films true to life.
--
Yours for bigger and better silents,
Bill Ferry
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> Channel 52 "Corona/Los Angeles" used to show LITTLE DADDY as part of
> it regular rotation of King World Rascal shorts, up through about
> 1975-76 at least.
Good ol' Channel 52 introduced me to vintage cinema in the early
'70s, when I was a wee lad of eight or nine. Seems like they only ran
about four different things in the late afternoons: "Kimba the White
Lion," "Speed Racer," the Three Stooges, and the Little Rascals.
Remember the Moe Howard voice-over promos? ("Stay tuned ta Channel
52!")
I think I only saw "Little Daddy" and "Moan & Groan Inc." once or
twice before they vanished out of rotation, and "Little Sinner"
disappeared too a little while later. This was around 1973 the way I
remember it, but I could be wrong. I never did see "Small Talk," "Lazy
Days," "A Tough Winter" or "Kid from Borneo" on TV, but I saw all the
others endlessly.
(Hey Brent, remember "Monster Rally" on Channel 5 late nights? Or
the East Side Kids on Channel 9 Saturday afternnons? Those were the
days...)
Chris Snowden
Brainbro3
sound episodes except "Railroadin" made it to air; however I do remember the
selection did become more limited as time went on! I even remember seeing the
silent "crazy house".This episode facinated me because I was sure I had seen
them all up to that point, I wanted to know what else I had'nt seen! As a 9
year old I didn't know anything about the series history.
John Brain
It was a babysitter who told me Alfalfa was dead!
Brent Walker
TALK many times in the early Seventies before going out of rotation
(I'd say as late as 1975). The others you mention indeed never were
in the package (and all the two-reelers were cut, often
injudiciously). Still that's where I first saw the Rascals and the
Stooges so I have a soft spot for 52 (I remember Moe's promo, and his
being a guest on host Chuck Johansen's interview show circa 1973).
How about the other 52 shows, like "Head Shop" with Elliot Mintz
(appealing to the OLDER kids!) and the syndicated Ghoul Gang (the guy
who took over Cleveland's Ghoulardi's schtick and syndicated it on the
Kaiser broadcasting channels--of which 52 was one). Do you remember
the Channel 52 station ID theme....Bert Kaempfert's "That Happy
Feeling"?
I remember the Eastside Kids (back to back with Abbott and Costello)
on Ch. 9 Saturdays (followed on Sundays by the Bowery Boys on
KCOP-13). Then of course Laurel and Hardy on KTTV-11 (along with Ben
Hunter's matinee), and all the kiddie shows like Sheriff John (11),
Hobo Kelly (13), Dick Sinclair's Polka Party on KTLA-5 (not a kiddie
show and I didn't really like polka, but for some reason I always
watched it...I probably liked the farmer marionettes in the Farmer
John spots...I am remembering that right and not just hallucinating,
right?). And since I grew up half-way between LA and San Diego, I
also watched Johnny Downs' SD kiddie show in the late 60's, then
Jackie Lynn Taylor's Rascals show in the early 70's.
Ah, regional television....where did it go?
Brent Walker
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R H Draney
>
>I remember the Eastside Kids (back to back with Abbott and Costello)
>on Ch. 9 Saturdays (followed on Sundays by the Bowery Boys on
>KCOP-13). Then of course Laurel and Hardy on KTTV-11 (along with Ben
>Hunter's matinee), and all the kiddie shows like Sheriff John (11),
>Hobo Kelly (13), Dick Sinclair's Polka Party on KTLA-5 (not a kiddie
>show and I didn't really like polka, but for some reason I always
>watched it...I probably liked the farmer marionettes in the Farmer
>John spots...I am remembering that right and not just hallucinating,
>right?). And since I grew up half-way between LA and San Diego, I
>also watched Johnny Downs' SD kiddie show in the late 60's, then
>Jackie Lynn Taylor's Rascals show in the early 70's.
>
>Ah, regional television....where did it go?
Last time I checked, Sally Baker was *still* making appearances as Hobo
Kelly...been trying to find a web site that's more specific about dates and
places, but on the first page of Google hits on "hobo kelly" +"sally baker"
comes a page whose synopsis reads:
... men forced into petticoats, celebs nude for free, young nude celebs, nude
pregnants, drinking pregnants, kelly sutton, sally baker hobo kelly, dragonball
z and ...
I'm not sure my curiosity about how she got on such a page is enough to make me
visit it (the page's title is even worse than the excerpt)....
Was Engineer Bill local or national?...growing up where the local shows often
used the same facilities as the networks, you tended not to classify them
because the production values were often similar (I had no idea growing up that
Huntley and Brinkley were big names and Jerry Dunphy was just the "in-town"
guy)...and as we got a little older there was the Real Don Steele with his own
answer to American Bandstand....
sparky spiegelman
Angeles local legends:
Your Friendly Neighborhood Mischiefmaker,
Sparky Z. Spiegelman
Chatsworth, California
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Johansen who interviewed Hollywood stars (on a 1/2 hour show and on
wrap arounds on Hollywood Movie Classics) such as Moe Howard, Huntz
Hall, Allen Jenkins, William Wellman, and others. Moe Howard was both
on the 1/2 hour interview show and I think he was interviewed on the
wraparound show, too. Moe was also interviewed by Eliot Mintz's
Headshop show as well.
During the early 70's KBSC-TV Channel 52 had a package of pre 1950
Warner Films which lacked some of their big pictures, but apparently
some of these lesser known films got their virgin Los Angeles showing
on KBSC TV, according to KBSC.
Ghoul Power!!
Sparky Z. Spiegelman
Chatsworth, CA
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>
Come to think of it, where did the "East Side Kids" go??? Gosh --- haven't
seen any of these in decades. Surely worthy of a revival on DVD, although I've
not a clue in the world as to whom (if anyone) currently holds distribution
rights.
Thanks for your post... I'd completely forgotten that the Bowery Boys series
was syndicated to TV as "The East Side Kids"... used to be a Sunday morning
staple here in NYC, followed by an A&C feature. (Sigh!)
Jeff
------
"Get those women away from that radiator! It smells like a monkey cage in
here!"
HOLLYWOOD NIGHT COURT (Ruff 'n Reddy - 1930)
James Neibaur
vita...@aol.com wrote on 8/16/03 9:43 PM:
> Come to think of it, where did the "East Side Kids" go??? Gosh --- haven't
> seen any of these in decades. Surely worthy of a revival on DVD, although
> I've
> not a clue in the world as to whom (if anyone) currently holds distribution
> rights.
They are in the public domain and VERY easy to find on DVD from Alpha video,
et. al.
JN
Jeff C.
>et. al.
>
>JN
I know that the earlier (and, I think, far less entertaining) "Dead End Kids"
films are widely available, but it's the later titles (early 50's onward) that
seem to be avoiding DVD... or is it the other way around!
From Louie's Sweet Shop...
Bluetooth Johnson
James Neibaur
vita...@aol.com wrote on 8/16/03 11:30 PM:
> I know that the earlier (and, I think, far less entertaining) "Dead End Kids"
> films are widely available, but it's the later titles (early 50's onward) that
> seem to be avoiding DVD... or is it the other way around!
>
> From Louie's Sweet Shop...
The East Side Kids are widely available. It is the Bowery Boys you are
looking for. The Dead End Kids were at Warner Brothers and Universal. I
don't believe any of their films are available on DVD except They Made Me a
Criminal with John Garfield.
JN
William Ferry
montage, with that vaguely Italian-sounding waltz theme, and that immortal
credit, "A Jan Grippo Production")!
Warner Home Video has released a few on VHS (some double features,
including, IIRC, BLUES BUSTERS and GHOST BUSTERS). Some of the public domain
features (KID DYNAMITE and SPOOKS RUN WILD) appear on some budget DVD
labels.
--
Yours for bigger and better silents,
Bill Ferry
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James Neibaur
vze3...@verizon.net wrote on 8/17/03 9:20 PM:
> Warner Home Video has released a few on VHS (some double features,
> including, IIRC, BLUES BUSTERS and GHOST BUSTERS). Some of the public domain
> features (KID DYNAMITE and SPOOKS RUN WILD) appear on some budget DVD
> labels.
Unfortunately, the only released a handful on VHS, and those sold poorly, so
no others were planned. The public domain stuff is East Side Kids (Kid
Dynamite, et al) is East Side Kids, not Bowery Boys.
Brent Walker is probably the leading authority on these series, btw.
JN
Joe Moore
There were actually 4 series by this group that started as the "Dead
End Kids" in the hit stage play. Samuel Goldwyn filmed the play in
1937 with the kids repeating their roles. Warners Bros then put the
kids under contract and they appeared in 6 films there in 1938-39 as
the "Dead End Kids". Universal started a series called the "Little
Tough Guys" about this point and cast some of the former "Dead End
Kids" in it. This series ran through 1943. It was sometimes called
the "Little Tough Guys and the Dead End Kids" to capitalize on the
established name. They made a total of 9 features at Universal.
Universal also made 3 serials with the kids. Soon after Monogram
started up their "Eastside Kids" series (in 1940) also with some of
the former "Dead End Kids". This ran through 1945 for a total of 22
films. Some of the kids appeared in both the Universal and the
Monogram series. By the end of 1945 they were clearly no longer
"Kids" and the group was renamed "The Bowery Boys". They appeared
under that name for 48 features between 1946-58. These were all
distributed by Monogram (which became Allied Artists around 1952).
TCM frequently runs all of their Warners films. The original Goldwyn
feature also pops up there from time to time. A few years ago TCM also
ran nearly all of the "Bowery Boys" films too.
As to what is PD and what isn't. The Goldwyn feature is still
copyrighted. All of the Warners films except THET MADE ME A CRIMINAL
are still copyrighted.
The 3 Universal serials are PD but all of the features (except the
first-LITTLE TOUGH GUY-1938) are still copyrighted. These Universal
features are actually the hardest to see nowadays but by all accounts
are among the weakest too.
Of the Monogram "Eastside Kids" films- only the earlier ones are PD.
The later ones from late 1943 through 1945 are still copyrighted.
These include MR. MUGGS STEPS OUT,FOLLOW THE LEADER, BLOCK BUSTERS,
BOWERY CHAMPS, DOCKS OF NEW YORK, MR MUGGS RIDES AGAIN and COME OUT
FIGHTING. So basically 15 of the 22 Monogram "Eastside Kids" are PD.
All of the "Bowery Boys" films are still copyrighted.
Alpha Video is putting out all of the PD titles on DVD (1 Warner
feature, 1 Universal feature, 15 Monogram features and 3 Universal
serials). Quality on these varies as most are transferred from old
16mm prints.
I wouldn't be surprised if DEAD END eventually comes out on DVD as it
has become a classic over the years and has Bogie as a selling point.
Warner's ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES might also be a DVD candidate down
the line. The other Warner features seem less likely to be prospects
for DVD release. Better get a DVD recorder and burn them off of TCM.
It's also very unlikely that we'll ever see any of the copyrighted
Universals appear as they seem to have little interest in any of their
classic era films let alone the "B" films.
I'm not too sure who owns the Monogram/Allied Artists films these days
(maybe Warners)but I doubt if any of the late "Eastside Kids" films or
"Bowery Boys" films will make it to DVD either. Perhaps TCM can be
coerced into running them again.
I strongly reccomend you track down a copy of Brent Walker and David
Hayes' Citadel Press book THE FILMS OF THE BOWERY BOYS for the full
lowdown of these series.
Joe Moore
William Ferry
between the availability of the Bowery Boys films (which are largely
unavailable), and the East Side Kids (which have more PD titles, and are
therefore easier to find).
I was fortunate enough to get Brent Walker's book several years ago, and I
HIGHLY recommended it!
Routine six!!
--
Yours for bigger and better silents,
Bill Ferry
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regularly shown on TCM. THEY MADE ME A CRIMINAL is PD, which is why
it's on DVD.
The Universal Dead End Kids & Little Tough Guys series are owned by
Universal, though the first one LITTLE TOUGH GUY (1938) is PD, as are
the three serials they made at Univ.
The early Eastside Kids (all the 1940-42 and certain titles from 1943
& 1944) are available from Alpha Video. Some of the later ones from
1944-45 are still copyrighted and owned by Warners (including the
best film of the series BOWERY CHAMPS co-starring Evelyn Brent,
another of the best MR. MUGGS STEPS OUT with Betty Blythe and Eddie
Gribbon, and BLOCK BUSTERS with Harry Langdon).
The Bowery Boys films are all owned by Warners, and all except a few
of the later Stanley Clements ones were shown on TCM in the late 90's.
Unfortunately, only 6 came out on video and none have made it to DVD.
I suggest going on TCM's website and send a request to show more
Bowery Boys!
Brent Walker
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Laughing Gravy
VHS releases of Bowery Boys films were double features (too bad).
Also, I recommend the two "Dead End Kids and Little Tough Guys"
serials Alpha offers (oldies.com), JUNIOR G-MEN and JUNIOR G-MEN OF
THE AIR. For Alpha, they're pretty good prints and transfers,
especially the latter. JUNIOR G-MEN is one of my favorite Universal
serials, and the sequel (well, it was sort of a sequel) has Lionel
Atwill as a Japanese warlord!
Brent Walker
Thanks Jim, though I have to defer to my old pal David Hayes and a few
other people (I'm sometimes a bit rusty on a few details these days).
Brent Walker
John Aldrich
wrote:
>DEAD END (Goldwyn) and the six Warners Dead End Kids films are
>regularly shown on TCM. THEY MADE ME A CRIMINAL is PD, which is why
>it's on DVD.
>
>The Universal Dead End Kids & Little Tough Guys series are owned by
>Universal, though the first one LITTLE TOUGH GUY (1938) is PD, as are
>the three serials they made at Univ.
>
>The early Eastside Kids (all the 1940-42 and certain titles from 1943
>& 1944) are available from Alpha Video. Some of the later ones from
>1944-45 are still copyrighted and owned by Warners (including the
>best film of the series BOWERY CHAMPS co-starring Evelyn Brent,
>another of the best MR. MUGGS STEPS OUT with Betty Blythe and Eddie
>Gribbon, and BLOCK BUSTERS with Harry Langdon).
>
>The Bowery Boys films are all owned by Warners, and all except a few
>of the later Stanley Clements ones were shown on TCM in the late 90's.
> Unfortunately, only 6 came out on video and none have made it to DVD.
> I suggest going on TCM's website and send a request to show more
>Bowery Boys!
>
>Brent Walker
Weren't the Bowery Boys and/or Eastside Kids the featured stars of the
month on TCM 6-8 months ago? Or is my memory going again?
Unfortunately, that was before I started toasting DVDs, but TCM
generally repeats most films at least a couple of times before they
remove them from the rotation.
Which reminds me, has anybody besides me noticed that TCM tends to
use a "playlist" type of rotation system not unlike a oldies radio
station?
That is why when they do day long salutes to a particular star (such
as they are doing all month in August) they schedule a lot of films
that they just showed last month or the month before.
--John A.
RP Faiola
very nice print. I got the Alpha NEATH BROOKLYN BRIDGE. It's from a nice
original 16mm print. LET'S GET TOUGH is a splicefest, to be kind.
As for the Universals, I'd love to see HIT THE ROAD again. Imagine the Kids up
against Gladys George! And Shemp on hand, too.
James Neibaur
rpfa...@aol.com wrote on 8/19/03 10:48 AM:
> As for the Universals, I'd love to see HIT THE ROAD again. Imagine the Kids
> up
> against Gladys George! And Shemp on hand, too.
I have a 16mm of that. Shemp has one line. But the film overall is fun.
JN
RP Faiola
butler Edward Everett Horton as "da toitle".