Gareth Hughes(Brother David)
desertpadre
around 45 films.
Check out I.M.B.com, well worth a look,see the big names he worked
with!
In my eyes he's a forgotten welsh hero, who give up the false and
worthless life of stardom to serve his fellow man.
If you have any info on him why not post it!
Eric Stott
handsome, if not particularly interesting- not his fault as the entire
picture is not all that interesting.
I find it interesting that your post has something of a mixed viewpoint- you
talk of the "worthless life of stardom " but also say "see the big names he
worked
with!" He most probably found greater satisfaction as a Missionary, but
that doesn't necessarily mean his former life was worthless.
Stott
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hollywoodtimemachine
several years. You can find more information at his web site:
http://www.intothelonging.com/
Frederica
Eric Stott wrote:
> I find it interesting that your post has something of a mixed viewpoint- you
> talk of the "worthless life of stardom " but also say "see the big names he
> worked
> with!" He most probably found greater satisfaction as a Missionary, but
> that doesn't necessarily mean his former life was worthless.
>
> Stott
I have never seen Hughes in anything, either, although I vaguely know
the outlines of his life. I see Mr. Lyons is writing a book on Hughes,
that ought to be interesting. One of the minor drawbacks of Cari
Beauchamp's book "Adventures of a Hollywood Secretary" is that she
*didn't* edit all Valeria's letters--Valeria herself was so interesting
that the Hollywood parts were almost a minor consideration. Perhaps
this book will be similar, as Hughes certainly led a fascinating life.
And I'm feeling a snotty sense of complacent glee in that I can
actually pronounce all the words on Mr. Lyons' website, nyah.
Frederica
desertpadre
Well it is a mixed view point, I think Gareth felt his time at Pyramid
Lake was the best time of his life. He did though destroy most of his
press clippings and other things from his hollywood days.
phant...@aol.com
William J. Mann devotes a few paragraphs to Hughes in his book BEHIND
THE SCREEN: HOW GAYS AND LESBIANS SHAPED HOLLYWOOD. Surprise,
surprise!
Jay Salsberg
Eric Stott
didn't marry.
Stott
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Vitaphone
(albeit for a noble cause), he'd finish out his days at the Hollywood Motion
Picture home, more or less on the cuff.
Jeff
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Frederica
Vitaphone wrote:
> It's also somewhat sadly ironic that although he chose to abandon cinema
> (albeit for a noble cause), he'd finish out his days at the Hollywood Motion
> Picture home, more or less on the cuff.
>
> Jeff
Even more ironic that he's interred in a Masonic cemetery.
Frederica
Eric Stott
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And what is ironic about that- he was a Mason.
Stott
Frederica
Eric Stott wrote:
> > Even more ironic that he's interred in a Masonic cemetery.
> >
> > Frederica
> >
>
> And what is ironic about that- he was a Mason.
>
> Stott
I was commenting on the current RC attitude toward Masons, as I know it
was extremely common for people to be members of both groups then.
Frederica
Eric Stott
of possible excommunication) but it has never been strongly enforced,
especially in America where the church likes to distance itself from Europe.
Many priests (unless they hve a personal dislike of Masons) use a "Don't
Ask- Don't Tell" scheme. In some parishes membership can be very open- in a
nearby cith the Knights Templar and the Knights of Columbus share their
headquarters and frequently march together.
Stott
Bisha Num
I have been reading all your comments with interest.
Frederica is partly right in suggesting that Hughes's life is more
interesting than his films. What most people don't know is the level of
his Theatre work and his standing in the USA as an actor. Frederica -
you should be grateful that he was not born in
llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch!
Vitaphone comments about the Motion Picture Home. Although Hughes
didn't actually "abandon" his career, the MPH was an obvious place for
him to spend his last years. the Home was open to anyone who had paid
their dues in their working lives and that included not just directors
and actors but all the way down to the girls who waited in the studio
commissaries.
Frederica seems to assume that Hughes was a Roman Catholic. Not at all.
Hughes was always connected with the protestant episcopal areas of
religion.
It has taken me 17 years of research to unravel his life, which is
quite complex in parts. The majority of information available in the
Public Domain is extremely misleading. The information contained in the
IMDB (note: not IMB as posted earlier by desert padre) has been updated
by myself. Also, the information at silentera.com and Greta de Groat's
Clara Kimball Young site has been supplied by myself.
It is quite easy to think you know about Hughes when, in fact, you know
very little or nothing at all. A relative of Hughes has recently been
supplying huge amounts of incorrect information to the Press in Wales
and in the USA because he has simply not done his homework. I have a
feeling that "Desert Padre" knows this person quite well.
The Gareth Hughes story is an extraordinary story and my website
contains only a tiny snapshot of that life. My book will be about the
man rather than the films. I will leave it to my good colleague Kevin
Brownlow and Dave Berry (author of "Wales and Cinema - the first
hundred years"), with whom I collaborated on the Gareth Hughes section,
to write about Hughes's worth as a film actor.
emyr...@yahoo.co.uk
The Hughes story is truly remarkable and Stephen Lyons has been
researching his life since 1989. He has left no stone unturned and is
in the process of writing the official biography. He is without doubt
the authority on Hughes.
The Hughes story was told to me by a very dear actor, the late Martin
Griffiths from LLanelly (who met Gareth) which I related to Stephen. It
was fairly sketchy but we were both intrigued by the story and the
process of unraveling the life of Gareth Hughes began. Initial research
was amazing but we soon discovered that much that was written about
Gareth Hughes was incorrect and flawed.
Unraveling fact from fiction and assiduous regard to detail is a pre
requisite to any biographer's armoury. Stephen Lyons falls into that
categori. He is a principled professional who has amassed an immense
collection of material on Gareth Hughes and anybody wishing to know the
Gareth Hughes story should contact Stephen through his web site. Anyone
not doing so is tarnishing the memory of Gareth Hughes.
stone...@post.com
I've been reading all your comments about Brother David(Gareth Hughes)
and they are all very intresting!
Does anyone know if there is an offical biographer for Brother David.
Because it seems to me that everyone is an expert!
Bisha Num
became a good friend of Gareth's niece until her death this year. I am
trusted by other elements of his family and have spent 17 years
researching his life with the blessing of the family. In front of my
desk are two wooden candlesticks he once used. On one of them hangs the
silver cross he wore in the desert. I have the prayer book he used in
the 1950's and two prayer cushions. I have some crockery he used in his
Hollywood days. I have a first edition copy of "Sentimental Tommy"
which he once owned in which there is a short letter to Gareth from J M
Barrie. In 2000 I raised money for a plaque to his memory, which is now
in the Parc Howard museum, Llanelli (South Wales, UK) opposite a
display which I mounted about his life. A Welsh language TV doc has
been made based on my research. British silent film historian Kevin
Brownlow refers any new material on Gareth to me and the Library of
Washington refers anyone interested in his life to me. I think that
makes me "official".
I have a huge archive of cuttings, letters and photos and also a short
colour film and two recordings of Gareth. What you see on my web site
is just a fraction of his life. The book will reveal just how
extraordinary his life was.
If you read my earlier posting you will see my views on some so called
"experts".
Hope that helps.
stone...@post.com
these days, you must have met Gareth Hughes then, for him to appoint
you his offical biographer?
>
Bisha Num
is sneering, childish and insulting. No. I never met Gareth - but I do
know and am friends with virtually every living person who did know him
and his next of kin authorised my assumption of the word "official". I
rather think that the fact that the Library of Congress Film Archive
staff regard me as the official biographer stands for something too. I
wonder why it is that University of Nevada students are referred to me
when engaging in projects on this subject. The reason I have some of
his posessions is because his relatives and people who respected him
have given them to me. When you asked if there was an official
biographer you wanted to know if there was anyone who was a definitive
source of information on Gareth/Brother David. I am that source. I know
more about Gareth than any living soul. Also - I have been true to his
memory and have always worked with great respect for his life and,
especially, the Paiute people, some of whom I also know personally. If
you don't want to involve yourself seriously in this forum then don't
post. If you want to discuss Gareth seriously then I am the definitive
source.
Perhaps you are a friend of Desert Padre?
For those who don't know... the Stonemother is a group of rocks to the
side of the pyramid in Pyramid Lake on the reservation where Gareth
spent many years. I have put a picture of the Stone Mother at
www.intothelonging.com/gareth/stonemother.htm for thos who would like
to see her. I took this photo in 2000. there is also a link to the
legend on the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe website.