DeNiro in GoodFellas
Diane Burnett
This is my first posting to this group so be gentle. BUT, I just watched
GF again with some friends and I realized what has bugged me re. an
otherwise fine movie: I think DeNiro was miscast. Wrong age, nothing re.
the detailed description given of him in the voiceover matches DeNiro's
performance. Now, I have managed to lead a full life despite misteps in
casting, performances, direction over the years. I don't even have a
problem with DeNiro in 'The Fan'. But I am curious to hear from any of
you as to agreement or disa-, or any comments. In fact, I wouldn't mind
hearing other suggested miscasts in this or other movies.
And I am personally pumped to hear re. the proposed Dean Martin movie.
Sounds so fun. Hanks as DM, however? Where are the lips, I ask myself?
Diane
webm...@film.tierranet.com
I remember some people crying out Oscar for De Niro's performance in
GoodFellas even though he was barely in it. Pesci got the Oscar he
deserved but Liotta was robbed. I thought De Niro's performance was
okay. There's not much screen time to base an opinion on really HOWEVER-
I never did like one sequence were Conway talks to Henry Hill about
their wifes talking to each other (was Conway married? Maybe it was a
girlfriend). Anyway, he says something like "I don't know what I can I
do" which he repeats three or four times. It just grates on me. The rest
of the film is GREAT though and considering it's only a seven year old
film it's amazing how much influence it's already had on the world of
cinema (Boogie Nights, Trainspotting, Swingers).
Fred Solomon
Diane Burnett <dbur...@u.washington.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.A41.3.95b.97110...@homer36.u.washington.edu>...
> This is my first posting to this group so be gentle. BUT, I just watched
> GF again with some friends and I realized what has bugged me re. an
> otherwise fine movie: I think DeNiro was miscast. Wrong age, nothing re.
> the detailed description given of him in the voiceover matches DeNiro's
> performance. Now, I have managed to lead a full life despite misteps in
> casting, performances, direction over the years. I don't even have a
> problem with DeNiro in 'The Fan'. But I am curious to hear from any of
> you as to agreement or disa-, or any comments. In fact, I wouldn't mind
> hearing other suggested miscasts in this or other movies.
> And I am personally pumped to hear re. the proposed Dean Martin movie.
> Sounds so fun. Hanks as DM, however? Where are the lips, I ask myself?
> Diane
>
>
>
Personally, I loved DeNiro in GF but the only thing that got me was that he
was supposed to be 29 when young Henry first meets him and he looked more
like 40 than 29. I actually thought he was miscast in The Fan just because
him playing the psycho isn't original anymore.
Damon C Wong
If we're going to talk about miscasting in Goodfellas based on how old
people looked, I think Joe Pesci's character, Tommy Devito, had a
serious aging problem. Wasn't the character supposed to be around the
same age as Henry Hill?
Also, I think casting DeNiro as a movie psycho, because he's done the
character before A LOT, is not really "miscasting." I think this is
"proper casting" if one casts their movies by the book. Like it's
considered "proper casting" to put Tom Hanks playing a character who's
likable, charming, and sympathetic; or putting Tom Cruise in a character
who's supposed to be a young ambitious talented guy. Yes, I'm a prude,
but I agree casting DeNiro in The Fan was predictable and his psycho
character in that movie wasn't brilliant, but it shouldn't be considered
"miscasting." On a side not, personally, I think one of the greatest
casting jobs in cinema was Courtney Love in that Larry Flint movie.
-d
Excerpts from netnews.alt.movies.scorsese: 10-Nov-97 Re: DeNiro in
GoodFellas by "Fred Solomon"@juno.com
> From: "Fred Solomon" <fsol...@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: DeNiro in GoodFellas
> Date: 10 Nov 1997 02:08:57 GMT
Andy Van Dam
Fred Solomon wrote:
> Diane Burnett <dbur...@u.washington.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.A41.3.95b.97110...@homer36.u.washington.edu>...
> > This is my first posting to this group so be gentle. BUT, I just watched
> > GF again with some friends and I realized what has bugged me re. an
> > otherwise fine movie: I think DeNiro was miscast. Wrong age, nothing re.
> > the detailed description given of him in the voiceover matches DeNiro's
> > performance. Now, I have managed to lead a full life despite misteps in
> > casting, performances, direction over the years. I don't even have a
> > problem with DeNiro in 'The Fan'. But I am curious to hear from any of
> > you as to agreement or disa-, or any comments. In fact, I wouldn't mind
> > hearing other suggested miscasts in this or other movies.
> > And I am personally pumped to hear re. the proposed Dean Martin movie.
> > Sounds so fun. Hanks as DM, however? Where are the lips, I ask myself?
> > Diane
> >
> >
> >
> Personally, I loved DeNiro in GF but the only thing that got me was that he
> was supposed to be 29 when young Henry first meets him and he looked more
> like 40 than 29. I actually thought he was miscast in The Fan just because
> him playing the psycho isn't original anymore.
Ok, let me start off by saying that this is one of MY first postings on this
NG and that I've been a Scorsese fan as far back as I can remember. Although
many consider Taxi Driver or Raging Bull to be the best MS films, I cast my
vote for Goodfellas anyday. Goodfellas has to be in the top 5 greatest stories
ever told on screen. To even say that DeNiro, the greatest actor of our time
was miscast is a complete nonsense. Anyone who says this, should be labled a
heretic of the Scorsese/DeNiro religion. DeNiro kicks more ass than any other
actor, and his portrayal of Conway is phenomenal. To say that DeNiro is
miscast is utter lunacy because, it would be impossible to miscast DeNiro. He
is such a brilliant actor that he can play any role better than anyone else.
As for his age, give me a break. When he comes walking into the bar, he
looks to be around thirty. His hair is completely black, there is absolutely
no gray. It isn't alwas easy to determine peoples age just by their facial
expressions. The age fits just fine. Watch Goodfellas again. It's the best.
Scorsese should have won best director, and DeNiro should have won best Actor,
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!! Pesci deserved the SA award. Ray Liotta also would have
been a fantastic nominee for Actor but still didn't hold a candle to DeNiro.
By the way, all this talk of Tom Hanks has made me dizzy. Here is a list of
Actors who couldn't even touch DeNiro.
TOM HANKS (especially)
Will Smith
Nick Cage
Kevin Costner
Keanu Reeves
Mel Gibson
Val Kilmer
Tom Cruise
Richard Gere (too many girbils)
Jeffrey Rush (or whatever the guy's name was who won best Actor last year)
Jeff Goldbloom
Anyone from Jurassic Park or Independence Day
John Travolta (except in Pulp Fiction)
Any other actor that I haven't mentioned except maybe Al Pacino
Go ahead and let me know what you think. I'll probably disagree with you if
its against DeNiro or Scorsese.
My picks for Academy Awards this year.
Best Actor: Al Pacino -Devil's Advocate
Best Supporting Actor: Robert DeNiro in either Copland, or Jackie Brown which
is coming out around Christmas (New
from Tarantino)
I'd like to see Samuel L. Jackson pick up the best Actor for this one if Pacino
doesn't get it. (Even though I know that neither of them will even be
nominated since the Academy has had their heads up their asses the last few
years in a row.)
cla...@grin.net
A little to much ass kissing here Andy. De Niro's a good actor. Not a
perfect one. He's done so many films lately that he's starting to repeat
himself. The 70's and 80's are over. Sure, he's still making some good
movies but to say he deserved an oscar for, what, 15-20 minutes of
screen time in GoodFellas is nonsense. Not to mention the 5 minutes of
OVER ACTING he did in Cop Land and you lose all crediablity saying he
deserves an oscar for a movie that hasn't even been released yet.
LHOOQ73
>To even say that DeNiro, the greatest actor of our time
>was miscast is a complete nonsense. Anyone who says this, should be labled a
heretic of the Scorsese/DeNiro religion. DeNiro kicks more ass than any other
actor, and his portrayal of Conway is phenomenal. To say that DeNiro is
miscast is utter lunacy because, it would be impossible to miscast DeNiro.
>He is such a brilliant actor that he can play any role better than anyone
else. As for his age, give me a break. When he comes walking into the bar,
he looks to be around thirty. His hair is completely black, there is
absolutely no gray. It isn't alwas easy to >determine peoples age just by
their facial expressions. The age >fits just fine. Watch Goodfellas again.
It's the best. Scorsese should have won best director, and DeNiro should have
won best >Actor,
wow. I thought the stereotype was obsessive italian catholicisim.
Cannonizing actors and directors is a dangerous thing. . . even DeNiro has
phoned in performances, just not usually in Scorcese films. (FRANKENSTEIN?)
And Scorcese has had his interesting experiment - yet not nearly a masterpiece
and at times barely coherent - moments. These are freaking HUMAN BEINGS for
god's sake.
Get a grip
Horuun
Andy Van Dam <van...@cda.mrs.umn.edu> wrote:
<snip> a whole bunch of crap that is opinion and presented so much as fact that
anyone who might disagree in the slightest must be a complete idiot.
>Here is a list of
>Actors who couldn't even touch DeNiro.
<snip> a whole bunch of names of some of the best actors currently working in
Hollywood.
First of all, acting is not a competition, and Robert De Niro has never stated
that he wants to be above everyone else. Basically, what you have said
through your whole post is that De Niro is better than anyone at any role.
Could De Niro have played in Jerry Maguire as well as Cruise did? Hell no.
Could he have done David Helfgott in Shine? Hell no. Could he have played
William Wallace, Batman, Forrest Gump, John Doe, Nice Guy Eddie, Mickey Knox,
Larry Flynt, Karl Childers, David Kahane, Griffin Mill, or any number of other
characters? No. Could anyone else have played Jake La Motta as well as De
Niro? Doubtful. Jimmy Conway? Probably. De Niro is a good actor, Tom
Cruise is a good actor. Lots of guys are good. You are stupid.
>Go ahead and let me know what you think.
You certainly let us know what you think.
>Best Actor: Al Pacino -Devil's Advocate
First of all, that was a supporting performance. Keanu Reeves was the star.
>Best Supporting Actor: Robert DeNiro in Jackie Brown.
For a movie you haven't even seen. Confirms your idiocy to me. Learn to
express your opinions as opinions. I have no tolerance for people who come
off spewing drivel as facts.
-Brent Miles Sprinkle
Andy Van Dam
Horuun wrote:
> Andy Van Dam <van...@cda.mrs.umn.edu> wrote:
>
> <snip> a whole bunch of crap that is opinion and presented so much as fact that
> anyone who might disagree in the slightest must be a complete idiot.
>
> >Here is a list of
> >Actors who couldn't even touch DeNiro.
>
> <snip> a whole bunch of names of some of the best actors currently working in
> Hollywood.
>
> First of all, acting is not a competition, and Robert De Niro has never stated
> that he wants to be above everyone else. Basically, what you have said
> through your whole post is that De Niro is better than anyone at any role.
> Could De Niro have played in Jerry Maguire as well as Cruise did? Hell no.
> Could he have done David Helfgott in Shine? Hell no. Could he have played
> William Wallace, Batman, Forrest Gump, John Doe, Nice Guy Eddie, Mickey Knox,
> Larry Flynt, Karl Childers, David Kahane, Griffin Mill, or any number of other
> characters? No. Could anyone else have played Jake La Motta as well as De
> Niro? Doubtful. Jimmy Conway? Probably. De Niro is a good actor, Tom
> Cruise is a good actor. Lots of guys are good. You are stupid.
>
> >Go ahead and let me know what you think.
>
> You certainly let us know what you think.
>
> >Best Actor: Al Pacino -Devil's Advocate
>
> First of all, that was a supporting performance. Keanu Reeves was the star.
>
Then Why do the credits for D.A. list Pacino first, and why do the T.V.
commercial's say STARRING Al Pacino before Keanu Reeves, And why did Marlon Brando
win the Best ACTOR award in '72 when Pacino was clearly in it a hell of a lot more
than Brando. You don't have to have the most screen time to be THE STAR. Just
look at DeNiro in Goodfellas. He's recognized as THE STAR of the movie whether you
like it or not.
> >Best Supporting Actor: Robert DeNiro in Jackie Brown.
> For a movie you haven't even seen. Confirms your idiocy to me. Learn to
> express your opinions as opinions. I have no tolerance for people who come
> off spewing drivel as facts.
>
> -Brent Miles Sprinkle
Watch the Insults Pal, You have got to be the biggest hypocrite of all, telling
ME that I'm pushing my opinion to seem like facts. What do you think you are
doing, You are saying that I am stupid. As far as I'm concerned, that's just YOUR
opinion, but you say it in such a way that you act like its factual. It is't a
fact. But here is a fact. You are WRONG because you are stating an incorrect
FACT. I know the facts, and they are that I'm not an idiot, or Stupid. But, just
to humor you, I will give you credit, it is just MY OPINION that DeNiro is the
best actor, and whether or not he ever claims that he is, is irrelevant because I
THINK that in general, he is better than all of those other people. The only
reason that you don't think DeNiro could play Jerry Maguire, or William Wallace, or
anyone else you mentioned for that matter, is because, IN MY OPINION, you have no
imagination. Quit trying to piss people off, but thanks for your response, I
enjoyed it.
AV
Horuun
>"Could De Niro have played Forrest Gump?" gets an emphatic "No" but "Could
>anyone else have played Jake La Motta?" gets a "doubtful". That
>perspective seems more than a little skewed to me. The accolades that De
>Niro received from peers and critics for RAGING BULL was almost unanimous.
>If there was one performance in the last twenty years that is least likely
>to have been delivered by any other actor, it's that one. Your "doubtful"
>devalues what is, by most accounts, a unique performance.
I think you misunderstood me a little bit. I didn't say that no one else could
have played Forrest Gump. I can think of numerous people who could have done
the role well, and probably better, than Tom Hanks. Actually, I hate the
movie Forrest Gump. But my main intention is to just show the poster how he
is coming off, and how wrong it is. And other people could played in Raging
Bull, and could have played it well. The movie could have still been really
good without De Niro. I think it's doubtful that someone could have done
better, but I don't know that for fact, that's why I say doubtful, not no.
DeNiro's Little Helper
Damon C Wong wrote:
> If DeNiro was Forrest Gump, the whole atmosphere of that movie would
> have changed. Gump would be more menacing and the tone of everything
> would be a lot more serious and intense... and the funny parts in the
> movie, there would be uncomfortable forced laughter. (in the scenes with
> Forest Gump in Vietnam, just picture that part like "Deer Hunter") But
> I bet it would still be a great movie... not as "light hearted and
> touching" as with Tom Hanks in it... I picture it would be closer to
> Slingblade. It would be a great movie!!! but different... very very
> different. Tom Hanks made Forest Gump a simple man with simple
> values... DeNiro would make Gump a complex man with confused values (a
> kid who grew up through most of his early childhood as a handicap
> outsider and fatherless would be an intergral part of the older Forest
> Gump's psyche) ... that's just my prediction, it's only a prediction.
> My prediction would also be that Robert Zemeckis would ruin DeNiro's
> acting by overplaying a horrible violin strings soundtrack over
> everything.
>
> And DeNiro could obviously act circles around Tom Cruise if he were to
> play Jerry McGuire. Granted, he's not a pretty boy like Tom Cruise, but
> DeNiro has a very strong presence on screen. Tom Cruise's performance
> in that character wasn't THAT good. It was a very sissy, pander to the
> audience's expectations, feel-good movie, which I find very hard to
> appreciate.
>
> I'm sure DeNiro can play a lot of roles mentioned, but he (like every
> other actor substituted in those roles) would change the entire movie.
> Truth is, actors have a lot of creative freedom (especially well
> respected ones) in depicting their characters in many movies. So movies
> would change from actor to actor. So this whole discussion is nice to
> think about, "could DeNiro play Jackie Chan's character?" but it's sorta
> gets nowhere.
>
> Anyway, DeNiro IS just the best actor in the whole fucking world.
>
> -d
Thanks for making those awesome points to back me up. DeNiro kicks ASS!
MisterG369
>Andy Van Dam <van...@cda.mrs.umn.edu>
On Wed, Nov 12, 1997
continued thusly.......
> Just
>look at DeNiro in Goodfellas. He's recognized as THE STAR of the movie
>whether you
>like it or not.
Liotta is actually the star. The story revolves around him,,,,,,,like planets
around a star, get it?
MisterG369
> Damon C Wong <dw...@andrew.cmu.edu>
on Wed, Nov 12, 1997
prolificly went on like this
> Joe Pesci seems only good paired with
>DeNiro and Scorsese.
According to your worship of the dynamic duo, anyone in their aura does well.
Oh, do you think DeNiro could have played Jesus in Last Temptation?
What was DeNiro's last really great role? I just can't remember...
MisterG369
> Andy Van Dam <van...@cda.mrs.umn.edu>
>Date: Tue, Nov 11, 1997
WROTE>
>My picks for Academy Awards this year.
>Best Supporting Actor: Robert DeNiro in either Copland, or Jackie Brown
>which is coming out around Christmas
Ummm, you haven't even seen this film yet, right?
You're a big fan of DeNiro, huh? Jus a lil bit.
DeNiro's Little Helper
MisterG369 wrote:
Than how come Marlon Brando is considered the STAR of Godfather when the story
revolves around Pacino?
MisterG369
> Damon C Wong <dw...@andrew.cmu.edu>
On: Wed, Nov 12, 1997
wrote even more about his hero
>Anyway, DeNiro IS just the best actor in the whole fucking world.
He took the screen test for the role of Micheal Corleone and he looked
ridiculous.
webm...@film.tierranet.com
Really? That's quiet interesting. Can you tell us more?
DeNiro's Little Helper
webm...@film.tierranet.com wrote:
> DeNiro's Little Helper wrote:
> >
> > MisterG369 wrote:
> >
> > > >Andy Van Dam <van...@cda.mrs.umn.edu>
> > > On Wed, Nov 12, 1997
> > >
> > > continued thusly.......
> > > > Just
> > > >look at DeNiro in Goodfellas. He's recognized as THE STAR of the movie
> > > >whether you
> > > >like it or not.
> > >
> > > Liotta is actually the star. The story revolves around him,,,,,,,like planets
> > > around a star, get it?
> >
> > Than how come Marlon Brando is considered the STAR of Godfather when the story
> > revolves around Pacino?
>
> Well, Brando was in The Godfather a hell of a lot longer than De Niro
> was in GoodFellas. Plus Pacino was considered a nobody when The
> Godfather was released. In fact, it was only his second film. On the
> other hand Brando was a HUGE star and was paid more than Pacino and also
> got top billing. These days I believe Pacino would get top billing.
Well, although Brando might have apeared a little more in Godfather, than DeNiro did
in Goodfellas, I think you underestimate the amount of time DeNiro spends in
Goodfellas. Also, by the same rational, Liotta was also a no name and DeNiro was a
HUGE star, and don't quote me on this, but I'm betting that DeNiro recieved more than
Liotta and got Top Billing!
webm...@film.tierranet.com
Marcel
Copland really wasn't that good due to the fact that it dragged on.
MisterG369 wrote in message
<19971118130...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Washington Cummings
In article <3471A84A...@nr.infi.net>,
> >
> > prolificly went on like this
> >
> > > Joe Pesci seems only good paired with
> > >DeNiro and Scorsese.
> >
> > According to your worship of the dynamic duo, anyone in their aura
> > does well.
> > Oh, do you think DeNiro could have played Jesus in Last Temptation?
> > What was DeNiro's last really great role? I just can't remember...
>
> DeNiro was Scorsese's first choice for playing Jesus in The Last
> Temptation of Christ;
> DeNiro turned down the role. He had artistic reasons for not wanting to
> take the role in the film. Anyway, the making of The Last Temptation...
> the aborted first try and then the successful second time, is a very
> long and involved story. -Ken
Well getting back to the subject in hand...
I think, contrary to popular opinion, the three main performances in GF
were overblown, though out of the three, De Niro was the most
disciplined.
OK, that's what the Pesci character is all about but what about De Niro's
Conway? Does he have to grimace his face so often? This is most apparent
in the scenes where it is embarrassingly apparent that the actors are
improvising check the many scenes with the repetition of dialogue and
redundant stock gestures.
However, I can't think of any other way that Scorcese could have done it.
The "feeling of authenticity" factor called for so much impro but it did
not help the actors too much; they consequently took the easy route and
went for overacting.
Wash
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MisterG369
>"webm...@film.tierranet.com" <webm...@film.tierranet.com>
On Tue, Nov 18, 1997
responded to my comment that DeNiro looked ridiculous in his screen test for
Michael Corleone by writing
>Really? That's quiet interesting. Can you tell us more?
He came off very menacing. The scene was when Michael is telling his
girlfriend at his sister's wedding about his family.
You can see it in the film "The Godfather Family" , at least, thats what I
recall it being titled. It was packaged with the VHS SE triliogy.
MisterG369
Just thought I'd show you the type of email I've gotten since my posts........
I said.......
>According to your worship of the dynamic duo, anyone in their aura does well.
>Oh, do you think DeNiro could have played Jesus in Last Temptation?
He said........
Of course! And done it ten times better than Willem Dafoe.
I said....
>What was DeNiro's last really great role? I just can't remember...
He said........
Easy. His last really great role was in CAPE FEAR and MIDNIGHT RUN;
before that would be THE UNTOUCHABLES, TAXI DRIVER, and GODFATHER II. I
haven't viewed RAGING BULL but its supposed to be excellent as well.
SO NOW I ADD>>>>
This DeNiro fan hasn't even seen Raging Bull, arguably the finest film of the
80's. My poin was that DeNiro hasn't really shown himself as a great actor
for many years.
DeNiro's Little Helper
Washington Cummings wrote:
> Well getting back to the subject in hand...
>
> I think, contrary to popular opinion, the three main performances in GF
> were overblown, though out of the three, De Niro was the most
> disciplined.
>
> OK, that's what the Pesci character is all about but what about De Niro's
> Conway? Does he have to grimace his face so often? This is most apparent
> in the scenes where it is embarrassingly apparent that the actors are
> improvising check the many scenes with the repetition of dialogue and
> redundant stock gestures.
Thats the character. It makes it authentic, because in life, often times, in
fact usually, people use the same facial expressions, body language, and
verbal language over and over again.
> However, I can't think of any other way that Scorcese could have done it.
> The "feeling of authenticity" factor called for so much impro but it did
> not help the actors too much; they consequently took the easy route and
> went for overacting.
>
I wouldn't call it overacting. If you think about the story line, it makes
sense. In there situations, often times acting differently would draw
suspicion toward them. I think that this was done intentionally. For
instance, a lot of people feel that the forced laughter was irritating and
unnecessary. However, this forced laughter may just go oo show that the
general sentiment was that if they didn't laugh they could wind up in the
East River. I think all of this was intentionally done so that the
intelligent movie goer would have a better understanding of Three decades of
life in the Mafia'.
Roaring 20's
In article <19971118130...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
miste...@aol.com (MisterG369) wrote:
>
> > Andy Van Dam <van...@cda.mrs.umn.edu>
> >Date: Tue, Nov 11, 1997
>
> WROTE>
> >My picks for Academy Awards this year.
> >Best Supporting Actor: Robert DeNiro in either Copland, or Jackie Brown
> >which is coming out around Christmas
>
> Ummm, you haven't even seen this film yet, right?
> You're a big fan of DeNiro, huh? Jus a lil bit.
It's been a long time since Robert De Niro won an Oscar. did he get
nominated for *Goodfellas?* i can't wait for him to nominated again.
DeNiro's Little Helper
Roaring 20's (big john) wrote:
> It's been a long time since Robert De Niro won an Oscar. did he get
> nominated for *Goodfellas?* i can't wait for him to nominated again.
No he wasn't, but he should have been. He was last nominated for Cape Fear in
1991. The year before that, he was nominated for best Actor in Awakenings.
Ironically, that is also the same year that Goodfellas was up for Awards. I
wonder if his Awakenings nomination some how kept him from a Goodfellas
nomination.
webm...@film.tierranet.com
DeNiro's Little Helper wrote:
>
Well, considering he was a supporting actor he couldn't get a best actor
nomination.
DeNiro's Little Helper
webm...@film.tierranet.com wrote:
First off, he could very well have been nominated as an Actor. As much as people
fail to realize, he was very relevant to the story, and was the main attraction of
the movie. Secondly, he could have been nominated for Best Actor and Best
Supporting Actor the same year. Look at Pacino, nominated for best supporting actor
in Glengarry Glenn Ross the same year that he won for Scent of A Woman. You can be
nominated more than once as long as its a different category. But that really
doesn't matter, because DeNiro could be considered an Actor in Goodfellas the same
way that Marlon Brando was an ACTOR in Godfather.
webm...@film.tierranet.com
Ray Liotta was the main actor. Whether or not people went to see
GoodFellas souly based on the fact DeNiro was in it is not a factor in
this so only Liotta could have gotten a nod for Best Actor. DeNiro,
Sorvino, and Pesci were all supporting actors. Pesci having won the
award. Lorraine Bracco could have been nominated for best actress and
all the other female leads as supporting actresses.
MRLevin007
> First off, he could very well have been nominated as an Actor. As much as
>people
>fail to realize, he was very relevant to the story, and was the main
>attraction of
>the movie. Secondly, he could have been nominated for Best Actor and Best
>Supporting Actor the same year. Look at Pacino, nominated for best
>supporting actor
>in Glengarry Glenn Ross the same year that he won for Scent of A Woman. You
>can be
>nominated more than once as long as its a different category. But that
>really
>doesn't matter, because DeNiro could be considered an Actor in Goodfellas the
>same
>way that Marlon Brando was an ACTOR in Godfather.
Two interesting things, though.
I find that it was truly a disappointment that Ray Liotta didn't get nominated
for an Oscar that year. It seems that he makes one amazing film for every
eight shitty ones. Goodfellas happened to be one of the better ones, if not
the best.
On the subject at hand, though. I don't know if actors would vote for the same
actor in two categories. Most people know that the Oscars are voted by people
of the category, based on the nominations made by the Academy. (E.G. Costume
designers vote for the best costume designer and best picture, directors vote
for best directorand best picture...). If an actor really steals two films
with his amazing acting, I think that he might be nominated in two categories,
but STILL it doesn't seem that likely.
Just my thoughts,
Mike