kubrick a major racist.
THE UGLY AMERICAN
villain is a black man who's not only seedy with eyes so beady but he smells
bad and has an eye for a blonde girl.
the girl's savior is a white hope. just as the girl is oppressed by a black
man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner. kubrick seems to be saying the
tyrone jacksons and pedro gomezes of the world are taking over, beating you
up and taking your women.
and the black villain is lynched at the end by the white guy and a gang of
white mannequins. what a racist movie!
natch
Your joking right? What movie were you really watching?
James M
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A bit touchy, are we?
Aidan Tynan
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>In article <5iDz5.5905$Y6.10...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>,
> "THE UGLY AMERICAN" <PAPI...@DEVILSISLAND.COM> wrote:
>movie, the
>> villain is a black man who's not only seedy with eyes so beady but he
>smells
>> bad and has an eye for a blonde girl.
>> the girl's savior is a white hope. just as the girl is oppressed by
>a black
>> man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner. kubrick seems to be saying
>the
>> tyrone jacksons and pedro gomezes of the world are taking over,
>beating you
>> up and taking your women.
>>
>> and the black villain is lynched at the end by the white guy and a
>gang of
>> white mannequins. what a racist movie!
>
>
>
I'm guessing Carry On Camping.
-Aidan
g...@nospamforme.thankyou
> > villain is a black man who's not only seedy with eyes so beady but he
> smells
> > bad and has an eye for a blonde girl.
> > the girl's savior is a white hope. just as the girl is oppressed by
> a black
> > man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner.
> >
> > and the black villain is lynched at the end by the white guy and a
> gang of
> > white mannequins. what a racist movie!
>
>
>
> Your joking right? What movie were you really watching?
>
>
> James M
> >
It could have been Star Wars.
GH
Jeremiah Lee McVay
THE UGLY AMERICAN wrote:
> i saw killer's kiss and boy oh boy, what a racist work. in that movie, the
> villain is a black man who's not only seedy with eyes so beady but he smells
> bad and has an eye for a blonde girl.
> the girl's savior is a white hope. just as the girl is oppressed by a black
> man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner. kubrick seems to be saying the
> tyrone jacksons and pedro gomezes of the world are taking over, beating you
> up and taking your women.
>
> and the black villain is lynched at the end by the white guy and a gang of
> white mannequins. what a racist movie!
Yeah, you're right... and Dr. Strangelove is racist because there ain't one
black man in that bunch of people who decides to blow up the world. What, black
people don't have the same apocalyptic rights as white people?!
in other words, give me a break
~JLM
lobi...@my-deja.com
> THE UGLY AMERICAN wrote:
>
> > i saw killer's kiss and boy oh boy, what a racist work. in that
movie, the
> > villain is a black man who's not only seedy with eyes so beady but
he smells
> > bad and has an eye for a blonde girl.
> > the girl's savior is a white hope. just as the girl is oppressed
by a black
> > man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner. kubrick seems to be
saying the
> > tyrone jacksons and pedro gomezes of the world are taking over,
beating you
> > up and taking your women.
> >
> > and the black villain is lynched at the end by the white guy and a
gang of
> > white mannequins. what a racist movie!
>
Hey, people: Quote from FMJ:
ANIMAL MOTHER "White soldier" (To EIGHT-BALL "Racist name"):
All fucking niggers should be hanged.(sic)
After all, "American Ugly" was right!
Now, if only Bullington and Jack Torrance were (insert favorite
prejudiced ethnic minority here)...
Pedro Pinto
Lob...@hotmail.com
natch
Olav Ragnar Ren =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F8kke?=
<OlavRR...@stud.su.hio.no> wrote:
> ...so if the villain weas white it would be a better movie???
> A bit touchy, are we?
> >
Odd thing is the villian WAS WHITE
CrtmnCP
man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner. >>
Beaner? You're calling Kubrick racist?
Kubrick usually portrayed African Americans as oppressed and usually in servant
roles (Shining, EWS). They also tend to be kinder and gentler than their white
counterparts (Shining, Full Metal Jacket). Kubrick's use of African Americans
in these types of roles tend to reinforce in his films his negative views
concerning the US and more specifically the way the US treat minoritys. The
Shining in many ways is about this very subject, considering that the hotel is
built where an indian attack took place (if memory serves) with the indians
defending their very land against the white settlers. The Native Americans
finally get their spirtitual revenge against the peaceful american family
through Jack Torrance.
boaz...@my-deja.com
I'm still not convinced with the Native American theory. If the use of
Native American spirits to exact their revenge by singling out the
Torrance family was intentional on Kubrick's part, then it has to be
his most extremely subtle use of context in any of his films. I am
aware of Ullman's reference and the tapestries on display (and even the
Calumet baking powder can in the food storage room), but one would
think there would be better payoff with such setups. Not blatant, mind
you, but something with a little more "presence" to it (e.g., the clues
left behind by the ET's in "2001").
As for African Americans in Kubrick films, let's not forget James
Edwards as the partly disabled parking lot attendant in "The Killing"
and the shabby way Timothy Carey treated him there. The insult Carey
paid Edwards was pretty bold and daring for 1956, especially for what
was considered at the time a B-grade programmer movie. But sometimes
it was the B-pictures where directors could deal with such issues, Sam
Fuller being a prime example of that area.
Boaz
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how come david bowman was not a david BROman? how come barry lyndon didn't
have any blacks. a racist, i tell you!
AT
<GOSTE...@NICKS.COM> wrote:
>
>how come david bowman was not a david BROman? how come barry lyndon didn't
>have any blacks. a racist, i tell you!
If you look at NASA personel and astronaut shots from the late
1960's, they could have been taken at an Aryan Nations convention.
If I'm not mistaken, was there not a black in Barry Lyndon during
one of the scenes? A servent or something in the background but my
menory is blurry on it. Presumablyhe would have beem transplanted
from one of the English colonies of the time, such as Jamaica or some
other island.
Wordsmith
Fuller did quite well as a "B" list director, but *The Big Red One*
should have had a bigger budget. The Fuller film that most sticks in
my mind is *The Naked Kiss*.
Wordsmith : )
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edbe...@my-deja.com
"THE UGLY AMERICAN" <PAPI...@DEVILSISLAND.COM> wrote:
> i saw killer's kiss and boy oh boy, what a racist work. in that
movie, the
> villain is a black man who's not only seedy with eyes so beady but he
smells
> bad and has an eye for a blonde girl.
a black
> man, our white guy is beaten by a beaner. kubrick seems to be saying
the
> tyrone jacksons and pedro gomezes of the world are taking over,
beating you
> up and taking your women.
>
> and the black villain is lynched at the end by the white guy and a
gang of
> white mannequins. what a racist movie!
>
>
Looks like someone hasn't been taking their medication lately...
edbermac
Clay Waldrop
> Fuller did quite well as a "B" list director, but *The Big Red One*
> should have had a bigger budget. The Fuller film that most sticks in
> my mind is *The Naked Kiss*.
My favorite is "Pickup on South Street." It may be replaced
by "Shock Corridor," which I finally get to see, as it is on
cable this month.
Clay
boaz...@my-deja.com
"Clay Waldrop" <NOSPAM...@home.com> wrote:
> "Wordsmith" wrote:
> > Fuller did quite well as a "B" list director, but *The Big Red One*
> > should have had a bigger budget. The Fuller film that most sticks
in
> > my mind is *The Naked Kiss*.
>
> by "Shock Corridor," which I finally get to see, as it is on
> cable this month.
>
> Clay
"Shock Corridor" is an excellent example of a "B" picture presenting
strong themes about racism, something the studios doing their "A"
pictures tended to skirt around if not avoid entirely.
Boaz
Ichorwhip
>black man in that bunch of people who decides to blow up the world. What,
>black
>people don't have the same apocalyptic rights as white people?!
>
>in other words, give me a break
>
Ich
"Peace is our Profession"
"Awake at last, yes?"
Ichorwhip
>
>Kubrick usually portrayed African Americans as oppressed and usually in
>servant
>roles (Shining, EWS). They also tend to be kinder and gentler than their
>white
>counterparts (Shining, Full Metal Jacket). Kubrick's use of African
>Americans
>in these types of roles tend to reinforce in his films his negative views
>concerning the US and more specifically the way the US treat minoritys.
Out of the melting pot and into the fire....
The
>Shining in many ways is about this very subject, considering that the hotel
>is
>built where an indian attack took place (if memory serves) with the indians
>defending their very land against the white settlers. The Native Americans
>finally get their spirtitual revenge against the peaceful american family
>through Jack Torrance.
The Overlook was supposedly built on an "Indian" burial ground. Peaceful
American family? I thought that the Torrance's were fairly dysfunctional to
begin with. I do see some elements to support a subtext of this sort, the
revenge of the native american, but you do have to contrive quite a bit to get
to anything conclusive. In support, I've always found it fascinating that
Jack's weapon of choice is an axe, which can be seen as emblematic of the
"pioneering" spirit. I'd also think that the parting shot of the photo of Jack
amidst the revelers at The Fourth of July Ball is no mere coincidence. We the
people stole this country and have the gall to celebrate it every year with a
rack of ribs and a wad of potato salad("how was it?" "Uh.. it was from the
store" "Fuck her"). Yeah right, like it REALLY belonged to the British before
us and we the people are the aboriginies, ha!
There's a good link-up to FMJ concerning "Indian" genocide as well in the whole
"who'll play the Indians" scene.
In conclusion, it's all pretty speculative to say that Kubrick meant this or
Kubrick meant that when Kubrick wasn't willing to spell it all out (thank bog.)
But it is pretty fun to go prospecting. I think that's what he really wanted.
"I'll be Gen'rul Custer!"
tylerpau...@gmail.com
Don Stockbauer
> Obvious you don’t understand The Shining. It’s literally critique on the ingrained racism of and violence inherit in our culture. You need to learn how to watch movies.
KelpsZoidzl
Let it die
Jan Bielawski
> Obvious you don’t understand The Shining. It’s literally critique on the ingrained racism of and violence inherit in our culture. You need to learn how to watch movies.
--
Jan