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The Thinker

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Okay, a freind just told me that Clerks and Mallrats are supposed to
happen on the same day. Is there any truth to this and if so, what does
the over arching time line look like?

Also, what is the story behind the "Gil Hicks" character?

Remember, I am a NEWBIE to Kevin Smith's movies, i saw clerks a year or
so ago, but watched GWH, Mallrats and Chasing Amy in the last 2 days, so
now im hooked.

Spam* penweaver@inxpress.net Vic

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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hello,

the story line goes from mallrats to clerks to chasing amy, and gil hicks
is supposed to be the brother or cousin of Dante. (this was pulled from
something KS said during the shooting of Mallrats.)

vic

The Thinker <thi...@kih.net> wrote in article <35D3CF...@kih.net>...

kara...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <35D3CF...@kih.net>,

thi...@kih.net wrote:
> Okay, a freind just told me that Clerks and Mallrats are supposed to
> happen on the same day. Is there any truth to this and if so, what does
> the over arching time line look like?
>
> Also, what is the story behind the "Gil Hicks" character?
>
> Remember, I am a NEWBIE to Kevin Smith's movies, i saw clerks a year or
> so ago, but watched GWH, Mallrats and Chasing Amy in the last 2 days, so
> now im hooked.
>
Couldn`t happen on the same day as Jay and Silent Bob are outside Dante`s
store all day in clerks. So they couldn`t also be at the mall for Mallrats

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Ryan Paige

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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kara...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> In article <35D3CF...@kih.net>,
> thi...@kih.net wrote:
> > Okay, a freind just told me that Clerks and Mallrats are supposed to
> > happen on the same day. Is there any truth to this and if so, what does
> > the over arching time line look like?
> >
> > Also, what is the story behind the "Gil Hicks" character?
> >
> > Remember, I am a NEWBIE to Kevin Smith's movies, i saw clerks a year or
> > so ago, but watched GWH, Mallrats and Chasing Amy in the last 2 days, so
> > now im hooked.
> >
> Couldn`t happen on the same day as Jay and Silent Bob are outside Dante`s
> store all day in clerks. So they couldn`t also be at the mall for Mallrats
>

Actually Mallrats would've happened before Clerks since the brain
aneurism girl (can't think of her name) had just died in Mallrats
(making her unable to appear on the dating show) while in Clerks Dante
and Randal go to her funeral (which is usually a few days after death.)

IX HiTMaN

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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>Dante
>and Randal go to her funeral (which is usually a few days after death.)

No, they go to the wake, wich is usually the day after people die..therefore
mallrats happened the day before clerks.

Ryan Paige

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Death-related mouring-type thing. (I meant wake, but I misspelled it.)
But still confirms that Mallrats would precede Clerks.

ghand

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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What is GWH???

Ryan Paige

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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ghand wrote:
>
> What is GWH???


Good Will Hunting, perhaps?

Brian McKechnie

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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I am assuming GWH stands for Good Will Hunting (Ben an Matt with a
little help from Kevin!) Anyways here is the timeline for Julie Dwyer's
death in all three films!

She dies in the YMCA pool sometime around midnight, Thursday!!

In Clerks it's Saturday
In Mallrats it's Friday
In Chasing Amy it's two years after the events in Clerks!

More neat info on the trilogy: Did you know that the character of
William Black (snowball guy in CLERKS) is also the guy staring at the 3D
picture in MALLRATS!! That's right there is two William Black's (same
character different actor!)

Ever wonder where all those cool names came from for the characters in
MALLRATS? Well watch the independent lesbian film GO FISH (not bad, I
liked it a lot!) it was written and produced by Guinervere Turner & Rose
Troche (she directed also!) well any major fan will know that Joey
Lauren Adams played Gwen Turner in MALLRATS! The other names in GO FISH
and MALLRATS that are similar:

The actress V.S Brodie (GO FISH) helped with the name Brodie (and maybe
T.S Quint!)

**Guinervere Turner also made a cameo appearence in CHASING AMY she was
the one that got Joey Lauren Adams up on stage at the club!!**

Anymore questions just write to me!

Vidfreak

Ryan Paige

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Brian McKechnie wrote:
>
> I am assuming GWH stands for Good Will Hunting (Ben an Matt with a
> little help from Kevin!) Anyways here is the timeline for Julie Dwyer's
> death in all three films!
>
> She dies in the YMCA pool sometime around midnight, Thursday!!
>
> In Clerks it's Saturday
> In Mallrats it's Friday
> In Chasing Amy it's two years after the events in Clerks!
>
> More neat info on the trilogy: Did you know that the character of
> William Black (snowball guy in CLERKS) is also the guy staring at the 3D
> picture in MALLRATS!! That's right there is two William Black's (same
> character different actor!)
>

I thought it was Willem (like Willem DaFoe).

The Thinker

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Okay, thanks for all that info.


WOW.

and now i know.

DDITMTY

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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>I am assuming GWH stands for Good Will Hunting (Ben an Matt with a
>little help from Kevin!) Anyways here is the timeline for Julie Dwyer's
>death in all three films!
>
>She dies in the YMCA pool sometime around midnight, Thursday!!
>
>In Clerks it's Saturday
>In Mallrats it's Friday
>In Chasing Amy it's two years after the events in Clerks!

I know the Mallrats and Clerks timeline is correct, but how do you come to the
conclusion that it was two years later on Chasing Amy. I have seen the movie
several times and dont recall them saying it happen two years ago during their
conversation about her.

>More neat info on the trilogy: Did you know that the character of
>William Black (snowball guy in CLERKS) is also the guy staring at the 3D
>picture in MALLRATS!! That's right there is two William Black's (same
>character different actor!)


Any true fan knows this:)


>Ever wonder where all those cool names came from for the characters in
>MALLRATS? Well watch the independent lesbian film GO FISH (not bad, I
>liked it a lot!) it was written and produced by Guinervere Turner & Rose
>Troche (she directed also!) well any major fan will know that Joey
>Lauren Adams played Gwen Turner in MALLRATS! The other names in GO FISH
>and MALLRATS that are similar:
>
>The actress V.S Brodie (GO FISH) helped with the name Brodie (and maybe
>T.S Quint!)
>
>**Guinervere Turner also made a cameo appearence in CHASING AMY she was
>the one that got Joey Lauren Adams up on stage at the club!!**


Thanks for the info! I didnt know this stuff.

BiggityBam

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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>The actress V.S Brodie (GO FISH) helped with the name Brodie (and maybe
>>T.S Quint!)

Actually...Brodie Bruce (Jason Lee) in Mallrats was contributed by Sherifff
Brodie in Jaws (Roy Sheider) and Bruce (the name of the mechanical shark)

T.S. Quint was from T.S. Eliot....

Also...it's Willam, not William

just a lil more trivia...Heather Jones, Alyssa's little sister in Clerks, was
played by Kevin's girlfriend Kim Loughran


chris

Like my grandmother always said...
"Fuck'em if they can't take a joke....and break their window!"

Brian McKechnie

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Well to answer all the questions here is my story of WILLIAM BLACK'S name being
spelled W-I-L-L-I-A-M according to the LASERDISC CRITERION COLLECTOR'S EDITION of
CHASING AMY (which has all the cut scenes from CHASING AMY and the case to the
movie has a map of New Jersey and where all three films take place) it spells
WILLIAM BLACK twice WILLIAM and it has the timeline of JULIE DWYERS death, it
tells you when they all graduated highschool, etc. But you are right it should be
spelled WILLAM my mistake! I should've checked the credits instead of the box!
I read somewhere on the View Askew web site awhile ago about the names linked to
GO FISH becuase he liked that movie a lot and it was also made around the time
CLERKS was made! Well he even says on the web site that MALLRATS is a PREQUEL to
CLERKS and CHASING AMY is the SEQUEL (in a way!!) And as for the Jones sisters
there is Heather Jones (CLERKS), "Trish the dish" Jones (MALLRATS) and Alyssa
Jones (CHASING AMY) and they are all sisters!! (but we all knew that!!)

Vidfreak

Stephen McKay

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Aug 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/19/98
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Good Will Hunting

Stephen McKay

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Aug 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/19/98
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Straight from Kev - Dante and Gil are identical cousins
Any questions, you can ask me or check out www.newsaskew.com

Steve

Vic wrote:

> hello,
>
> the story line goes from mallrats to clerks to chasing amy, and gil hicks
> is supposed to be the brother or cousin of Dante. (this was pulled from
> something KS said during the shooting of Mallrats.)
>
> vic
>
> The Thinker <thi...@kih.net> wrote in article <35D3CF...@kih.net>...

Ryan Paige

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Aug 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/19/98
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Stephen McKay wrote:
>
> Straight from Kev - Dante and Gil are identical cousins
> Any questions, you can ask me or check out www.newsaskew.com
>
> Steve
>
> Vic wrote:
>
> > hello,
> >
> > the story line goes from mallrats to clerks to chasing amy, and gil hicks
> > is supposed to be the brother or cousin of Dante. (this was pulled from
> > something KS said during the shooting of Mallrats.)
> >
> > vic
> >

They laugh alike, they walk alike, sometimes they even talk alike. You
could lose your mind. When cousins are two of a kind.

Bracken MacLeod

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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>In Clerks it's Saturday
>In Mallrats it's Friday
>In Chasing Amy it's two years after the events in Clerks!

So it occured to me, that something may be amiss. At least that or I'm
just not getting it given my wretched wormlike mind. My question is, if
it's Saturday in Clerks, why does Veronica have to leave the store to
get to class?

Slainte,
Bracken


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'A flute with no holes is not a flute,
And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.'
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Ryan Paige

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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Bracken MacLeod wrote:
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> >In Clerks it's Saturday
> >In Mallrats it's Friday
> >In Chasing Amy it's two years after the events in Clerks!
>
> So it occured to me, that something may be amiss. At least that or I'm
> just not getting it given my wretched wormlike mind. My question is, if
> it's Saturday in Clerks, why does Veronica have to leave the store to
> get to class?
>
> Slainte,
> Bracken
>

She's such a studious person, she takes Saturday classes.

Moviezzz

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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>, why does Veronica have to leave the store to
>> get to class?
>>
>> Slainte,
>> Bracken
>>
>
>She's such a studious person, she takes Saturday classes.

Many schools have weekend classes.

DDITMTY

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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I think its safe to say that every college in the nation has some saturday
classes.


Danny

Matt Zaglin

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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yeah, but why would any one schedule more than one on a Saturday??

Ps: Univ. @ buffalo doesn't have Saturday classes


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Ryan Paige

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DDITMTY wrote:
>
> I think its safe to say that every college in the nation has some saturday
> classes.
>
> Danny


It is not safe to say that at all because there is at least one college
in that nation that doesn't have Saturday classes. Now, we could say
that the vast majority of colleges in the nation have Saturday classes.

DDITMTY

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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> Univ. @ buffalo doesn't have Saturday classes
>
>

I bet this isnt true unless its a private school.


Danny

Ryan Paige

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Well, now you are qualifying the original statement. First you said that
every college has Saturday classes. Now you're exempting private
schools. I assume that if someone could prove that Podunk U. didn't have
Saturday classes, you'll find some other reason to disqualify that
school.

Bracken MacLeod

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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Fair enough. I lead a sheltered life and Saturday classes have never
been available in the departments I have been in (Philosophy, Poly Sci,
and now Law School). I was unaware of this phenomenon.

Then again they may have offered these classes and I was just too drunk
to notice.

Namaste,

DDITMTY

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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Give me a list of every school you think has no Saturday classes and a number.
I will call everyone of them and there will be a Saturda class. I exempted
private school due to the fact that some are so small that they barly have
enough student to hold weekday classes. By the way anyone have an idea where
she went to school at? Whats in the area? Maybe we can find out what school it
is and see if they have Saturday classes:)

Danny

Shmm13

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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DDITMTY(ddi...@aol.com) once said:

>Give me a list of every school you think has >no Saturday classes and a
number.

Well, why don't we just find schools where it would have been possible for her
to attend(weren't they supposed to be in Leonardo?), and see if they offer
Saturday classes?

Leah

DDITMTY

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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>Well, why don't we just find schools where it would have been possible for
>her
>to attend(weren't they supposed to be in Leonardo?), and see if they offer
>Saturday classes?

I agree...so anyone who gets this info please submit it. Thank you:)

danny

Maximi

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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Late on evening, DDITMTY came down from heaven and uttered these
words:

>Give me a list of every school you think has no Saturday classes and a number.

>I will call everyone of them and there will be a Saturda class. I exempted
>private school due to the fact that some are so small that they barly have
>enough student to hold weekday classes. By the way anyone have an idea where
>she went to school at? Whats in the area? Maybe we can find out what school it
>is and see if they have Saturday classes:)

She went to school at Monmouth College (now Monmouth
University). My mom went there, and I grew up around there.

And yes, I believe there were Saturday classes.

--

Maximi [max...@mindspring.com]

=w= (-o-) <*>

RiverRat30

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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I'm still not convinced that the movie occured on a Saturday. It's true that
they mentioned that no one goes to the store "at 4:00 on a Saturday", BUT:

1) How many people really go to the store at 6:30 AM for coffee and a paper..
on Saturday?

2) Does Veronica really have classes ALL DAY on Saturday? She had at least one
morning class. One of her classes was cancelled around noon (was it Mech 101?),
but she still had classes until 8 and a sorority meeting until 9. That's a
hell of a weekend schedule! (another question...does Monmouth even *have*
sororities?)

These are all based on opinions, and yeah, maybe it's possible (though
doubtful). But can anyone answer this question? This, to me, is the proof of
inconsistency in the movie:

3) "An angry mother called the State Division of Taxation and claimed that a
Quick Stop employee sold her four-year-old daughter a pack of cigarettes at
4:00 today. The New Jersey Division of Taxation called the Board of Health,
and sent [a representative] down to issue a fine."

My question: Are both the Division of Taxation and the Board of Health open on
weekends? I thought government agencies closed at 5:00 sharp on Friday.

Scott

Amo Nympham

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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it's a college course, which do sometimes run on Saturdays...

--

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"Amo Nympham"
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Bracken MacLeod wrote in message <35DC4938...@erols.com>...


>>In Clerks it's Saturday
>>In Mallrats it's Friday
>>In Chasing Amy it's two years after the events in Clerks!
>
> So it occured to me, that something may be amiss. At least that or I'm
>just not getting it given my wretched wormlike mind. My question is, if

>it's Saturday in Clerks, why does Veronica have to leave the store to
>get to class?
>
>Slainte,

Moviezzz

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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Let's all take a step back here.

Take a breath.

Look at what you are arguing about.

Look around you.

Look out the window.

Now go, and find that life you may need.

Thank you.

The management.

BiggityBam

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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read the summaries...they explain all of this!


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I thought you said it was a good size?

chris
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E.

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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I still say Donnie was the cutest New Kid.

GeminiMat

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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no way, it was jordan

Ryan Paige

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I don't think anyone is arguing that she had Saturday classes and that
Saturday classes are indeed possible and offered at most schools. The
problem came in with the blanket statement that ALL colleges have
Saturday classes (which was what was said originally), then when someone
pointed out a college that didn't have Saturday classes, private schools
were suddenly exempt. This is just a silly little argument as to whether
or not people should talk in such broad terms. I agree that the vast
majority of colleges in the U.S. have Saturday classes these days, but
to blanketly say that ALL colleges have Saturday classes without having
done the reseach first to prove that such a statement is correct is only
asking for trouble.

Stephen McKay

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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I couldn't agree more.

matt...@gmail.com

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Aug 24, 2013, 2:59:53 AM8/24/13
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The internet and the DVDs say Mallrats happened a day after Clerks. But it isn't true based on what i noticed last night. Clerks: Randal tells Dante that Julie Dwyer died 'yesterday' in a swimming pool, and they go to here wake. Mallrats: Brandi asks TS if he talked to Julie Dwyer 'yesterday', and he says yeah i did, I talked to her about being on your dads tv shows. Brandi then explains that 'right' after his talk, Julie goes 'straight to the YMCA where she dies in a pool.
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