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Jury convicts Oregon man who rigged home with 'Indiana Jones' booby trap injuring federal officer
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But Trump
Jun 7, 2023, 4:42:56 PM6/7/23
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An Oregon man who rigged his lost home with an "Indiana Jones"-inspired
booby trap of a "round hot tub that was on its side set to roll down the
hill" was found guilty of charges stemming from that 2018 incident where a
federal agent was injured, officials said Tuesday.
A federal jury in Medford found Gregory Lee Rodvelt, 71, guilty of
assaulting a federal officer and using and discharging a firearm during
and in relation to a crime of violence, according to a statement by the
U.S. Attorney's Office in Oregon.
Rodvelt lost his home in a lawsuit and after he "learned that a receiver
had been appointed to sell that property, he proceeded to booby trap it,"
federal prosecutors said.
Bomb specialists with the FBO and Oregon State Police were asked to
inspect the property after Rodvelt was arrested in Arizona in April, 2017
and charged with unlawful possession of explosives, according to an
affidavit written by FBI Special Agent Jeffrey Gray.
When bomb specialists got to the man's former property in Williams, about
30 miles west of Medford, on Sept. 7, 2018, they came upon a minivan
blocking front gates and, upon closer inspection, saw it "was rigged with
two booby traps," according to the affidavit.
They disarmed those traps and got to the home's front where they spotted a
hot tub tilted at an angle, authorities said.
When he was later reached by FBI agents in Arizona, "Rodvelt stated that
he set up fishing line and a tripwire across the property gate that went
to a round hot tub that was on its side set to roll down the hill and hit
whoever comes through the gate," Gray wrote.
"Rodvelt described it by referencing the 'stone rolling down in the
Indiana Jones Movie.' Rodvelt also talked of other tripwires on the
property and a spike strip made of nails and wood which was designed to
flatten tires. Rodvelt did not provide additional specifics about the
tripwires."
To enter the house, "based upon the presence of the aforementioned booby
traps," law enforcement used "an explosive charge to breach the front
door," according to the affidavit.
Once they got inside, they came upon a wheelchair and after it was bumped,
"it triggered a homemade shotgun device that discharged a .410 shotgun
shell that struck the FBI bomb technician below the knee," the U.S.
Attorney's Office statement said.
The agent was rushed to the hospital where he as treated and released,
officials said.
Rodvelt faces up to 20 years behind bars when he's later sentenced,
according to prosecutors.
"That's an unrealistic maximum (sentence)," defense attorney Benjamin Kim
told NBC News on Wednesday.
Kim declined any further comment on the case.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jury-convicts-oregon-man-injured-
federal-officer-home-using-rigged-ind-rcna88126
booby trap of a "round hot tub that was on its side set to roll down the
hill" was found guilty of charges stemming from that 2018 incident where a
federal agent was injured, officials said Tuesday.
A federal jury in Medford found Gregory Lee Rodvelt, 71, guilty of
assaulting a federal officer and using and discharging a firearm during
and in relation to a crime of violence, according to a statement by the
U.S. Attorney's Office in Oregon.
Rodvelt lost his home in a lawsuit and after he "learned that a receiver
had been appointed to sell that property, he proceeded to booby trap it,"
federal prosecutors said.
Bomb specialists with the FBO and Oregon State Police were asked to
inspect the property after Rodvelt was arrested in Arizona in April, 2017
and charged with unlawful possession of explosives, according to an
affidavit written by FBI Special Agent Jeffrey Gray.
When bomb specialists got to the man's former property in Williams, about
30 miles west of Medford, on Sept. 7, 2018, they came upon a minivan
blocking front gates and, upon closer inspection, saw it "was rigged with
two booby traps," according to the affidavit.
They disarmed those traps and got to the home's front where they spotted a
hot tub tilted at an angle, authorities said.
When he was later reached by FBI agents in Arizona, "Rodvelt stated that
he set up fishing line and a tripwire across the property gate that went
to a round hot tub that was on its side set to roll down the hill and hit
whoever comes through the gate," Gray wrote.
"Rodvelt described it by referencing the 'stone rolling down in the
Indiana Jones Movie.' Rodvelt also talked of other tripwires on the
property and a spike strip made of nails and wood which was designed to
flatten tires. Rodvelt did not provide additional specifics about the
tripwires."
To enter the house, "based upon the presence of the aforementioned booby
traps," law enforcement used "an explosive charge to breach the front
door," according to the affidavit.
Once they got inside, they came upon a wheelchair and after it was bumped,
"it triggered a homemade shotgun device that discharged a .410 shotgun
shell that struck the FBI bomb technician below the knee," the U.S.
Attorney's Office statement said.
The agent was rushed to the hospital where he as treated and released,
officials said.
Rodvelt faces up to 20 years behind bars when he's later sentenced,
according to prosecutors.
"That's an unrealistic maximum (sentence)," defense attorney Benjamin Kim
told NBC News on Wednesday.
Kim declined any further comment on the case.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jury-convicts-oregon-man-injured-
federal-officer-home-using-rigged-ind-rcna88126
Nic
Jun 7, 2023, 6:25:10 PM6/7/23
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On 6/7/23 4:42 PM, But Trump wrote:
> An Oregon man who rigged his lost home with an "Indiana Jones"-inspired
> booby trap
https://vnexplorer.net/jury-convicts-oregon-man-who-injured-federal-officer-with-home-using-rigged-indiana-jones-booby-trap-s2807019.html
> An Oregon man who rigged his lost home with an "Indiana Jones"-inspired
> booby trap
"Rodvelt lost his home in a lawsuit and after he “learned that a
receiver had been appointed to sell that property, he proceeded to booby
trap it,” federal prosecutors said."
!Jones
Jun 7, 2023, 9:53:07 PM6/7/23
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jurisdictions... and not only in the US. If *anybody* hits the
booby-trap, then, not only are you criminally responsible, but you
will usually be held liable for civil damages.
A person burglarizing your home (or his surviving family) can and
probably will sue you for everything you're trying to protect if you
set a trap and the burglar is injured.
If a law enforcement officer hits it, you are in *deep* kim chee.
In most states, you cannot display a sign claiming booby-traps exist
even if they don't because it amounts to a threat.
Whether or not you (or I) agree is irrelevant.
Nic
Jun 8, 2023, 9:19:05 AM6/8/23
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!Jones
Jun 8, 2023, 12:56:43 PM6/8/23
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look. I did a quickie Google and the first one was:
https://definitions.uslegal.com/b/booby-traps/#:~:text=If%20a%20person%20sets%20up,own%20property%20to%20prevent%20intruders.
It says, in part: "If a person sets up such a trap to protect his/her
property, he/she will be liable for any injury or death even to an
unwanted intruder such as a burglar. It is illegal to set a booby trap
on one's own property to prevent intruders."
Interestingly, even the Geneva Convention, which applies to law
governing wars, deals with booby traps as follows:
"Without prejudice to the rules of international law applicable in
armed conflict relating to treachery and perfidy, it is prohibited in
all circumstances to use any booby-trap in the form of an apparently
harmless portable object which is specifically designed and
constructed to contain explosive material and to detonate when it is
disturbed or approached, or..." <read more in the referenced URL>
Booby traps are a *huge* no-no! The burglar's family will end up
owning the property you're trying to protect.
Nic
Jun 8, 2023, 1:40:42 PM6/8/23
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answer my question.
!Jones
Jun 8, 2023, 4:11:25 PM6/8/23
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guess, I'd say it was likely a matter involving unpaid debts... taxes,
mortgage, etc. It could have been space aliens for all I know.
I will point out, though, that the simple fact one posts a question on
Usenet obligates nobody to provide an answer.
Nic
Jun 8, 2023, 4:42:08 PM6/8/23
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preferred to beating the dead horse of setting booby traps on and on. Do
banks setup alarms and or laser booby traps to protect their money? Do
the military use deadly force to protect their secrets, do you think
that an audible burglar alarm with strobes is intimidating? I guess a
moat filled with piranha fish or crocodiles used to be enough to protect
ones home.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 8, 2023, 4:56:52 PM6/8/23
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[Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 16:40:42 -0400, Nic <N...@none.net> typed:
>On 6/8/23 4:11 PM, !Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:40:40 -0400, in talk.politics.guns Nic
>> <N...@none.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Prior to the booby traps, what was his lawsuit that lost him his home,
>>> answer my question.
What makes you think he knows? None of the news stories mentions the
reasons behind it.
>> I have no idea... and less perturbation. If I were to take a wild
>> guess, I'd say it was likely a matter involving unpaid debts... taxes,
>> mortgage, etc. It could have been space aliens for all I know.
>>
>> I will point out, though, that the simple fact one posts a question on
>> Usenet obligates nobody to provide an answer.
>>
>True, yet to have a clear understanding of what is going on would be
>preferred to beating the dead horse of setting booby traps on and on. Do
>banks setup alarms and or laser booby traps to protect their money?
An alarm is one thing. Banks don't set up booby traps.
>Do
>the military use deadly force to protect their secrets
That's not a booby trap.
>, do you think
>that an audible burglar alarm with strobes is intimidating?
That's not a booby trap.
>On 6/8/23 4:11 PM, !Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:40:40 -0400, in talk.politics.guns Nic
>> <N...@none.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Prior to the booby traps, what was his lawsuit that lost him his home,
>>> answer my question.
reasons behind it.
>> I have no idea... and less perturbation. If I were to take a wild
>> guess, I'd say it was likely a matter involving unpaid debts... taxes,
>> mortgage, etc. It could have been space aliens for all I know.
>>
>> I will point out, though, that the simple fact one posts a question on
>> Usenet obligates nobody to provide an answer.
>>
>True, yet to have a clear understanding of what is going on would be
>preferred to beating the dead horse of setting booby traps on and on. Do
>banks setup alarms and or laser booby traps to protect their money?
>Do
>the military use deadly force to protect their secrets
>, do you think
>that an audible burglar alarm with strobes is intimidating?
Nic
Jun 8, 2023, 5:08:29 PM6/8/23
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> original impetus to the booby trap story. To me that is a red flag,
> telling me the story has something to hide.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 8, 2023, 5:15:23 PM6/8/23
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[Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 17:08:26 -0400, Nic <N...@none.net> typed:
> That is my point, there is no mention about the reasons behind the
> original impetus to the booby trap story. To me that is a red flag,
> telling me the story has something to hide.
One has zero to do with the other.
There are a number of possible reasons.
(1) He failed to make the bank or HOA payments and the house was
foreclosed.
(2) He failed to observe the HOA rules and was fined and refused to
pay the fines
(3) He used the house to manufacture meth and the property was seized
as a nuisance
(4) He filed falsified documents with the recorder's office and the
house actually belongs to someone else.
The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
> That is my point, there is no mention about the reasons behind the
> original impetus to the booby trap story. To me that is a red flag,
> telling me the story has something to hide.
There are a number of possible reasons.
(1) He failed to make the bank or HOA payments and the house was
foreclosed.
(2) He failed to observe the HOA rules and was fined and refused to
pay the fines
(3) He used the house to manufacture meth and the property was seized
as a nuisance
(4) He filed falsified documents with the recorder's office and the
house actually belongs to someone else.
The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
!Jones
Jun 8, 2023, 8:11:31 PM6/8/23
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On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 16:40:42 -0400, in talk.politics.guns Nic
Well... good luck.
PaxPerPoten
Jun 9, 2023, 12:41:15 AM6/9/23
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shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force. I believe
there must be more to the story as I cannot believe any jury would give
anyone's property away for compensation in the killing or wounding a
criminal trespasser. Logical care should be of course taken as it could
be someones moron kid. A chip off the old block of elder Moron Jonesy.
Interestingly enough that the worlds military et a. utilize mine fields.
e.g. North Korea, possibly Guantanamo Naval Facility. At one time in the
Western American territories it was legal to shoot or hang anyone caught
in possession of stolen cattle...without proof of legitimate Bill of sale.
PaxPerPoten
Jun 9, 2023, 12:49:24 AM6/9/23
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something to fear of bootstraps? Are you one of the bleeding hearts that
has promoted the high crime rate? Are you one of those that defunds
police? Or worse yet condones Police corruption? The US Marine Oath
fully fits the protection policy of Civilian American Families and property.
>
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 9, 2023, 7:50:33 AM6/9/23
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[Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:48:04 -0500, PaxPerPoten
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>On 6/8/2023 4:15 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 17:08:26 -0400, Nic <N...@none.net> typed:
>>
>>> That is my point, there is no mention about the reasons behind the
>>> original impetus to the booby trap story. To me that is a red flag,
>>> telling me the story has something to hide.
>>
>> One has zero to do with the other.
>>
>> There are a number of possible reasons.
>>
>> (1) He failed to make the bank or HOA payments and the house was
>> foreclosed.
>> (2) He failed to observe the HOA rules and was fined and refused to
>> pay the fines
>> (3) He used the house to manufacture meth and the property was seized
>> as a nuisance
>> (4) He filed falsified documents with the recorder's office and the
>> house actually belongs to someone else.
>>
>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>
>Why are you defending criminal trespass?
Go ahead and post the message ID where I "defended criminal trespass."
Right here ----->
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>On 6/8/2023 4:15 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 17:08:26 -0400, Nic <N...@none.net> typed:
>>
>>> That is my point, there is no mention about the reasons behind the
>>> original impetus to the booby trap story. To me that is a red flag,
>>> telling me the story has something to hide.
>>
>> One has zero to do with the other.
>>
>> There are a number of possible reasons.
>>
>> (1) He failed to make the bank or HOA payments and the house was
>> foreclosed.
>> (2) He failed to observe the HOA rules and was fined and refused to
>> pay the fines
>> (3) He used the house to manufacture meth and the property was seized
>> as a nuisance
>> (4) He filed falsified documents with the recorder's office and the
>> house actually belongs to someone else.
>>
>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>
>Why are you defending criminal trespass?
Right here ----->
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 9, 2023, 7:51:05 AM6/9/23
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[Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:40:17 -0500, PaxPerPoten
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>If said trespasser breaks into your homestead etc, you just happen to
>shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
>to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force.
That's not a booby trap, you fucking idiot.
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>If said trespasser breaks into your homestead etc, you just happen to
>shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
>to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force.
max headroom
Jun 9, 2023, 8:06:12 AM6/9/23
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bigdog
Jun 9, 2023, 8:07:25 AM6/9/23
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On 6/9/2023 7:50 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 9, 2023, 8:44:26 AM6/9/23
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[Default] On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 08:06:07 -0400, obese hitlerite Wannabe
forged:
>Everyone knows I'm a lying war criminal who lives to be Putin's Pocket Pussy
You should consider becoming one of Prigozhin's Pocket Pussies and get
over there.
[chuckle]
forged:
>Everyone knows I'm a lying war criminal who lives to be Putin's Pocket Pussy
You should consider becoming one of Prigozhin's Pocket Pussies and get
over there.
[chuckle]
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 9, 2023, 8:46:25 AM6/9/23
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[Default] On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 08:07:19 -0400, obese hitlerite Wannabe
forged:
>Nobody said that is, you fucking idiot.
Booby traps are something cowardly Russians do when they are
retreating. Which is often. LOL
forged:
>Nobody said that is, you fucking idiot.
retreating. Which is often. LOL
Baxter
Jun 9, 2023, 11:00:35 AM6/9/23
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Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
news:el768iltdskf7vegn...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin
g.dwarf.com:
And conservaturds - that Oregon man and his house in deep Red part of the
State.
news:el768iltdskf7vegn...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin
g.dwarf.com:
State.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 9, 2023, 11:06:39 AM6/9/23
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[Default] On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 15:00:33 -0000 (UTC), Admitted Pedophile
Groomer Baxter typed:
Admitted Pedophile Groomer Baxter will now furnish proof of this man's
voting record:
----->
Groomer Baxter typed:
voting record:
----->
!Jones
Jun 9, 2023, 12:23:19 PM6/9/23
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On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:48:04 -0500, in talk.politics.guns PaxPerPoten
<P...@Yale.com> wrote:
>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>
>Why are you defending criminal trespass?
You did not read well. The O.P. never even mentioned "criminal
<P...@Yale.com> wrote:
>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>
>Why are you defending criminal trespass?
trespass".
The law is clear on booby traps... they're a beaucoup, numbah *TEN*,
no-no!
But Trump
Jun 9, 2023, 7:33:20 PM6/9/23
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On 07 Jun 2023, Nic <N...@none.net> posted some
news:9t7gM.2780$fZx2...@fx14.iad:
He's a nice feller. His own mother sued him for elder abuse.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/gregory-rodvelt/
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/or-court-of-appeals/1436805.html
https://casetext.com/case/state-v-rodvelt-1
news:9t7gM.2780$fZx2...@fx14.iad:
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/gregory-rodvelt/
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/or-court-of-appeals/1436805.html
https://casetext.com/case/state-v-rodvelt-1
Mattb
Jun 9, 2023, 10:09:51 PM6/9/23
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 20:42:55 -0000 (UTC), But Trump <but....@cnn.com>
wrote:
This should be applied to all gang-related shootings, as well as any
other crimes of "discharging a firearm during and in relation to a
crime of violence". Give all gang members 20 years if convicted.
wrote:
other crimes of "discharging a firearm during and in relation to a
crime of violence". Give all gang members 20 years if convicted.
Nic
Jun 10, 2023, 8:58:17 AM6/10/23
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PaxPerPoten
Jun 10, 2023, 7:23:39 PM6/10/23
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On 6/9/2023 11:23 AM, !Jones wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:48:04 -0500, in talk.politics.guns PaxPerPoten
> <P...@Yale.com> wrote:
>
>>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>>
>> Why are you defending criminal trespass?
>
> You did not read well. The O.P. never even mentioned "criminal
> trespass".
You don't read well or comprehend fatass! Attacking the right of anyone
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:48:04 -0500, in talk.politics.guns PaxPerPoten
> <P...@Yale.com> wrote:
>
>>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>>
>> Why are you defending criminal trespass?
>
> You did not read well. The O.P. never even mentioned "criminal
> trespass".
to protect their lives, Property, family or country is Moronic. Our
government protects the country with deadly force and there is no damned
good reason a citizen cannot do the same. You break into my home and
sonny, there is a good chance a leftest useless dingdong like you might
not survive. Now go back to sniffing glue and memorizing Your
Democrat-Marxist manifesto.
>
> The law is clear on booby traps... they're a beaucoup, numbah *TEN*,
> no-no!
The law is clear that Anti-Americans can not live here and YET, Here you
> The law is clear on booby traps... they're a beaucoup, numbah *TEN*,
> no-no!
are.
>
PaxPerPoten
Jun 10, 2023, 7:41:39 PM6/10/23
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you or your people genociding Arabs in their own homeland...and in
anyway possible. Booby-trap the assholes and the invasions of your home
etc will stop. Keep in mind the SOB's that wrote such bullshit laws
always have lots of FBI, Secret-Service, Standard law enforcement,
Bodyguards. So in the last few minutes of your life passing by your
eyes do you disarm the booby trap of call the cops? Lets hear from those
that have suffered greatly during the riots, when they lost every thing
to killer Clowns that your kind encouraged. You Bolsheviks even
encouraged the selling of Guns to Mexicans that came back and killed
American citizens and created many Home invasions. Long live Booby-traps
and let our Government Tread with care when dealing with us citizens.
They are supposed to represent us as we supposedly elected or provided
the Government jobs they are supposed to serve as indicated by the very
oath they took. Next you will want to disarm the Marines.
Leper
Jun 10, 2023, 7:46:06 PM6/10/23
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between their legs after killing men, women and children in an attempt
to start a civil war. I really don't remember Russia being in this
discussion. Obviously you cannot compete in normal dialogue.
Leper
Jun 10, 2023, 7:49:16 PM6/10/23
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an open invitation to you to go right in.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 10, 2023, 7:53:54 PM6/10/23
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[Default] On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:42:01 -0500, PaxPerPoten
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>On 6/9/2023 6:50 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:40:17 -0500, PaxPerPoten
>> <P...@Yale.com> typed:
>>
>>> If said trespasser breaks into your homestead etc, you just happen to
>>> shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
>>> to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force.
>>
>> That's not a booby trap, you fucking idiot.
>
>Whats the difference you inbred Jewish prick.?
One is a boobytrap and one isn't, you unemployable pedophile nazoid
mouth-breather.
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>On 6/9/2023 6:50 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:40:17 -0500, PaxPerPoten
>> <P...@Yale.com> typed:
>>
>>> If said trespasser breaks into your homestead etc, you just happen to
>>> shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
>>> to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force.
>>
>> That's not a booby trap, you fucking idiot.
>
>Whats the difference you inbred Jewish prick.?
mouth-breather.
PaxPerPoten
Jun 10, 2023, 8:16:45 PM6/10/23
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now that your food stamp rations are renewed for the month. I certainly
am not interested in your pedophilic anal receptical desires. Maybe
someone here has a design for a trap that catches real Boobies like you?
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 11, 2023, 7:03:24 AM6/11/23
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[Default] On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 19:17:09 -0500, PaxPerPoten
breather.
LOL
<P...@Yale.com> typed:
>On 6/10/2023 6:53 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:42:01 -0500, PaxPerPoten
>> <P...@Yale.com> typed:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2023 6:50 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:40:17 -0500, PaxPerPoten
>>>> <P...@Yale.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> If said trespasser breaks into your homestead etc, you just happen to
>>>>> shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
>>>>> to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force.
>>>>
>>>> That's not a booby trap, you fucking idiot.
>>>
>>> Whats the difference you inbred Jewish prick.?
>>
>> One is a boobytrap and one isn't, you unemployable pedophile nazoid
>> mouth-breather.
>
>I do the employing here.
OK, so you're one of the rare EMPLOYABLE pedophile Nazoid mouth
>On 6/10/2023 6:53 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:42:01 -0500, PaxPerPoten
>> <P...@Yale.com> typed:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2023 6:50 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default] On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:40:17 -0500, PaxPerPoten
>>>> <P...@Yale.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> If said trespasser breaks into your homestead etc, you just happen to
>>>>> shoot the perpetrator dead. Where I live, it is an acceptable practice
>>>>> to protect life, limb and property with up to deadly force.
>>>>
>>>> That's not a booby trap, you fucking idiot.
>>>
>>> Whats the difference you inbred Jewish prick.?
>>
>> One is a boobytrap and one isn't, you unemployable pedophile nazoid
>> mouth-breather.
>
>I do the employing here.
breather.
LOL
Scout
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"PaxPerPoten" <P...@Yale.com> wrote in message
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> On 6/9/2023 11:23 AM, !Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:48:04 -0500, in talk.politics.guns PaxPerPoten
>> <P...@Yale.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>>>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>>>
>>> Why are you defending criminal trespass?
>>
>> You did not read well. The O.P. never even mentioned "criminal
>> trespass".
>
> You don't read well or comprehend fatass! Attacking the right of anyone
> to protect their lives, Property, family or country is Moronic. Our
> government protects the country with deadly force and there is no damned
> good reason a citizen cannot do the same.
No,.. you were just working on putting in a pool and couldn't complete the
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 23:48:04 -0500, in talk.politics.guns PaxPerPoten
>> <P...@Yale.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The reason behind him losing the property would in no way legitimize a
>>>> booby trap. They're illegal and stupid.
>>>
>>> Why are you defending criminal trespass?
>>
>> You did not read well. The O.P. never even mentioned "criminal
>> trespass".
>
> You don't read well or comprehend fatass! Attacking the right of anyone
> to protect their lives, Property, family or country is Moronic. Our
> government protects the country with deadly force and there is no damned
> good reason a citizen cannot do the same.
job quickly so you posted signs around your property against trespassing so
that innocent people wouldn't be harmed..
it's not YOUR fault they chose to ignore the signs and climb over the fence,
simply to fall in the hole for the pool.
Why was it covered over.. Well I had to keep it from filling up with water
until I could get the hole dug and the concrete poured, didn't I?
Well what about all the sticks in the bottom?
Had to make sure it was level didn't I?
Well, yea, but you put points on the top.. Well, I needed accurate
measurements and that reduced the error when I pulled a tape across them.
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