Questions Questions (was To see or NOT to see)
#24fanforlife
questions for ya now (although they've probably already been covered 100s of
times by now). Here we go.
1) Why didn't Heather tell Mike about what she found in the bundle of
sticks? Was she just trying to spare her friend from a major freak-out, or
was there something else going on?
2) Even though she didn't tell him in the beginning, when they heard Josh
calling out in the forest after he disappeared, why didn't she mention it
then? Frankly, if I had found what I assumed to be a missing friend's teeth
and tongue or jawbone or whatever, I would assume that person wasn't capable
of clear speech. I sure as heck wouldn't be following that voice around in
the dark and calling out to it..much less follow it into a weird old
house...
3) Why was Josh the "chosen one"? Was it because, as some have theorized,
that when he knocked over one of the 7 piles of stone, he released the
spirit of one of the children and damned himself? Other opinions more than
welcome.
4) When Mike was standing in the corner of the basement, he was bound to
have heard Heather calling for him and knew she was on her way to the
basement as well. Why didn't he try to warn her off? Is it possible that
by the time she reached the basement, Mike had lost his tongue and some
teeth as well? Was he just so in shock that he COULD"T say anything? Was
he of the opinion that if he kept quiet, he might be freed like the one boy
in the legend of Mr. Parr? Or was he dead and just propped up there? I
don't know..tell me please!!
5) Any theories on why the compass lead them in circles...or was it Heather
that lead them in circles...
6) A little off-topic but indulge me. If the average every day Joe were to
see this movie without having viewed all the information on the website
first, and NOT knowing whether this was reality-based or fictional, would
some of the symbolism be as significant to that person as it was to some of
us? Would the effect by as strong?
7) What was the deal with Mike throwing out the map? Was he genuinely THAT
frustrated and honestly thought it was getting them nowhere, or was he being
influenced by something (or someone)(or something) else...
8) Was it just MY TOWN, or did anyone else have this experience...at the
end of the final scene, when the credits start rolling, no one stood up to
leave, like they were expecting more...
BTW, I did get rather nauseous, but I didn't hurl thank goodness...
As I said before, all of these questions have probably been covered numbers
of times, but honestly, I didn't want to search through all of these posts
to find my answers. So call me shallow.
Kevin Karstens <karc...@primenet.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:57:18 -0500, "#24fanforlife"
<ghil...@hopkinsville.com> wrote:
>
> >Okay, call me gullible, naive, whatever. But I had no idea until today
that
> >this was a FICTIONAL story. Now I'm not sure if I even want to go see it
or
> >not. My best friend went a couple of nights ago and it scared her to
death,
> >but she didn't know it wasn't real. She still doesn't...I'm gonna have
to
> >tell her tomorrow....Anyway, should I see the film or not, knowing it's
> >fake...Any and all advice welcome.
> >
> >Geez Louise, man...
> DOES IT HAVE TO BE REAL TO BE COOL and SCARY?????
>
> Its damn original, creepy as hell, and WELL DONE, if you have a creative
mind...
> Go see it and enjoy the thing, already!!!!
> (make sure to post your thoughts on it here afterwards...Im curios as to
what ya will think, now....;)
> Thanks!
> Kevin
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Dave Stein
Here's an answer to the specific questions below that I bet no one else will
give you!
DON'T SEEK THE ANSWERS FROM A NEWSGROUP OR ANYONE ELSE!
What do I mean? Questions like the ones below are why the movie was made in the
first place. THESE are the questions that are supposed to chill you, make you
think, freak you out and make you ponder them for days on end.
Most of the questions below don't have a real answer, it's up to you.
Would you stand up in a good magic show every time the magician did a trick and
say, "Wait, wait, how did you do that one? I have to know how you did that one?"
No, you wouldn't, and any good magician wouldn't tell you either. :)
This is what makes this movie so fun. You could get answers from people, but why
let them do your thinking for you? Enjoy a few more nights of restless sleep!
A question like What was in the bundle of sticks? I'd seek an answer to, but a
question like Why did Heather react the way she did to the bundle of sticks? I
wouldn't seek an answer to.
Do you really want to know why Mike was *frozen* in the corner? or do you want
your imagination to run wild? If you don't, you wasted $7.50!!
>
>
> 1) Why didn't Heather tell Mike about what she found in the bundle of
> sticks? Was she just trying to spare her friend from a major freak-out, or
> was there something else going on?
>
> 2) Even though she didn't tell him in the beginning, when they heard Josh
> calling out in the forest after he disappeared, why didn't she mention it
> then? Frankly, if I had found what I assumed to be a missing friend's teeth
> and tongue or jawbone or whatever, I would assume that person wasn't capable
> of clear speech. I sure as heck wouldn't be following that voice around in
> the dark and calling out to it..much less follow it into a weird old
> house...
>
>
>
> 4) When Mike was standing in the corner of the basement, he was bound to
> have heard Heather calling for him and knew she was on her way to the
> basement as well. Why didn't he try to warn her off? Is it possible that
> by the time she reached the basement, Mike had lost his tongue and some
> teeth as well? Was he just so in shock that he COULD"T say anything? Was
> he of the opinion that if he kept quiet, he might be freed like the one boy
> in the legend of Mr. Parr? Or was he dead and just propped up there? I
> don't know..tell me please!!
>
> 5) Any theories on why the compass lead them in circles...or was it Heather
> that lead them in circles...
>
>
>
> 7) What was the deal with Mike throwing out the map? Was he genuinely THAT
> frustrated and honestly thought it was getting them nowhere, or was he being
> influenced by something (or someone)(or something) else...
>
>
>
--
And St. Attilla raised the handgrenade up on high saying,
"Oh, Lord, bless this thy handgrenade that with it thou
mayest blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy."
- Book of Armaments, CH.II V.IX-XXI
#24fanforlife
for DISCUSSION! I don't expect definitive answers to any of those questions
because I know they don't exist. I realize that the film makers
purposefully made the movie so that we would be left with plenty of
questions. My point is that I made this post in the first place to get
other people's ideas, and compare them to my own. While I do have my own
point of view to all of these questions, I did not post them. They are MY
opinions that I thought up in my own wee little head. However, it occurred
to me that if someone else viewed the same situation in a different light, I
would like to know about it. The whole point of having a DISCUSSION is to
get another point of view. Now why you seem to have such a problem with
this, I'll never know. However, if you don't wish to participate, fine. My
imagination has "ran wild" with this movie, and I simply want to see if it
has ran in the same direction as the masses, or if my take on things varies
somewhat. So get off my back. I'm not asking for the secret formula in
Pepsi or something. I've read all of your posts, and you certainly don't
mind offering your opinion. That's all I want is the opinion of
others...not the disdaining type of posts like the one you left me. If you
want to talk down to someone, go find some kids or something, but leave me
alone.
Dave Stein <dave....@oakweb.com> wrote in message
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Jeremy Thomas
>Okay, hubby and I went to see it tonight, and boy oh boy do I have the
>questions for ya now (although they've probably already been >covered 100s
of times by now). Here we go.
Okie dokie. :)
>1) Why didn't Heather tell Mike about what she found in the bundle of
>sticks? Was she just trying to spare her friend from a major freak->out,
or was there something else going on?
I would guess she just didn't want to cause Mike the emotional shock and
pain.
>2) Even though she didn't tell him in the beginning, when they heard >Josh
calling out in the forest after he disappeared, why didn't she >mention it
then? Frankly, if I had found what I assumed to be a >missing friend's
teeth and tongue or jawbone or whatever, I would >assume that person wasn't
capable of clear speech. I sure as heck >wouldn't be following that voice
around in the dark and calling out to >it..much less follow it into a weird
old house...
Remember, Mike and Heather were...well, less then totally sane. They
were clinging to the hope...any hope...that Josh was alive and well. When
they heard him yelling, their gut instinct was "Find him, so everything will
be okay again."
>3) Why was Josh the "chosen one"? Was it because, as some have
>theorized, that when he knocked over one of the 7 piles of stone, he
>released the spirit of one of the children and damned himself? Other
>opinions more than welcome.
The stones would be my guess...although there is the possibility that the
witch/spirit/spirit of the witch knew that Josh was the connection between
the two. Remember, Heather hadn't met Mike before the trip. Josh was the
person who knew them both, and by taking him out of the picture, you
severely damage any cohesiveness the party has.
>4) When Mike was standing in the corner of the basement, he was
>bound to have heard Heather calling for him and knew she was on
>her way to the basement as well. Why didn't he try to warn her off? Is
>it possible that by the time she reached the basement, Mike had lost
>his tongue and some teeth as well? Was he just so in shock that he
>COULD"T say anything? Was he of the opinion that if he kept quiet,
>he might be freed like the one boy in the legend of Mr. Parr? Or was
>he dead and just propped up there? I don't know..tell me please!!
My guess here is that he had been frightened so badly that he had
regressed to a childlike state, and was infuenced to stand in the corner.
>5) Any theories on why the compass lead them in circles...or was it
>Heather that lead them in circles...
According to folklore, compasses (and similar magnetic-related items) go
whacko around the presence of a witch...similar to milk curdling in their
presence. This is a possible explanation.
>6) A little off-topic but indulge me. If the average every day Joe were
>to see this movie without having viewed all the information on the
>website first, and NOT knowing whether this was reality-based or
>fictional, would some of the symbolism be as significant to that
>person as it was to some of us? Would the effect by as strong?
I say no. A lot of people I know missed out on this aspect of the movie,
because they didn't know a lot of information about the movie. Upon viewing
the Sci-Fi documentary and web page, they shuddered. A lot.
>7) What was the deal with Mike throwing out the map? Was he
>genuinely THAT frustrated and honestly thought it was getting them
>nowhere, or was he being influenced by something (or someone)(or
>something) else...
I would guess that he was just sick of following the damn thing...but
your explanation is more eviller... >:)
>8) Was it just MY TOWN, or did anyone else have this
>experience...at the end of the final scene, when the credits start
>rolling, no one stood up to leave, like they were expecting more...
Most people in my theater got up and complained about it...but most of
them were either under 20 or over 60. *SIGH*
>BTW, I did get rather nauseous, but I didn't hurl thank goodness...
I'm glad. My girlfriend had to watch it with her eyes closed, because we
ended up stuck in the front row. I was fine though...I believe I am
honestly immune to motion-sickness. WOO HOO!! :)
>As I said before, all of these questions have probably been covered
>numbers of times, but honestly, I didn't want to search through all of
>these posts to find my answers. So call me shallow.
You're shallow. :) j/k
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"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not
become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks
into you." - F. Nietzsche
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James J. Lippard
>Here's an answer to the specific questions below that I bet no one else will
>give you!
>
>DON'T SEEK THE ANSWERS FROM A NEWSGROUP OR ANYONE ELSE!
>
>What do I mean? Questions like the ones below are why the movie was made in the
>first place. THESE are the questions that are supposed to chill you, make you
>think, freak you out and make you ponder them for days on end.
>Most of the questions below don't have a real answer, it's up to you.
>Would you stand up in a good magic show every time the magician did a trick and
>say, "Wait, wait, how did you do that one? I have to know how you did that one?"
No, but I'd talk about it on alt.magic.secrets, and odds are the group
would figure out how it's done.
>No, you wouldn't, and any good magician wouldn't tell you either. :)
>This is what makes this movie so fun. You could get answers from people, but why
>let them do your thinking for you? Enjoy a few more nights of restless sleep!
You could look at discussion as "letting others do your thinking for you,"
but I think the reality is not quite such an abdication of responsibility.
>A question like What was in the bundle of sticks? I'd seek an answer to, but a
>question like Why did Heather react the way she did to the bundle of sticks? I
>wouldn't seek an answer to.
>Do you really want to know why Mike was *frozen* in the corner? or do you want
>your imagination to run wild? If you don't, you wasted $7.50!!
Sometimes other people's comments can be a trigger for your own
imagination to go places it otherwise wouldn't. Sort of like
the way watching a movie gives you something to think about that's
different from making up an entire story in your head from scratch.
--
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Angie & Dave
remembered the story from the beginning. Now, I want to see it again. I popped in here to see what things I should look
for next time I see it
.
#24fanforlife wrote in message ...
|was there something else going on?
I believed that she was trying to spare him the hysteria.
|
|2) Even though she didn't tell him in the beginning, when they heard Josh
|calling out in the forest after he disappeared, why didn't she mention it
|then? Frankly, if I had found what I assumed to be a missing friend's teeth
|and tongue or jawbone or whatever, I would assume that person wasn't capable
|of clear speech. I sure as heck wouldn't be following that voice around in
|the dark and calling out to it..much less follow it into a weird old
|house...
I could not determine what was in the bundle of sticks, so I wasn't making the connection of missing parts of speech.
|
|3) Why was Josh the "chosen one"? Was it because, as some have theorized,
|that when he knocked over one of the 7 piles of stone, he released the
|spirit of one of the children and damned himself? Other opinions more than
|welcome.
Well, I thought it was because that he kicked the pile of rocks over. But I didn't think about releasing spirits. I just
figured he either set off some sort of "witch's territory intruder alarm system" or he just ticked her off by knocking
over her stuff.
|
|4) When Mike was standing in the corner of the basement, he was bound to
|have heard Heather calling for him and knew she was on her way to the
|basement as well. Why didn't he try to warn her off?
The witch had him in a trance? The language of his body is one thing I want to see again. I seem to recall him in a
stance that one would expect from a six year old being disciplined. Totally spooked me out, even though I didn't
remember the tale at the time.
Is it possible that
|by the time she reached the basement, Mike had lost his tongue and some
|teeth as well? Was he just so in shock that he COULD"T say anything? Was
|he of the opinion that if he kept quiet, he might be freed like the one boy
|in the legend of Mr. Parr? Or was he dead and just propped up there? I
|don't know..tell me please!!
I don't think he was dead. He appeared to be standing, not hanging.
|
|5) Any theories on why the compass lead them in circles...or was it Heather
|that lead them in circles...
The witch created a magnetic field that caused a false "south" reading.
|
|6) A little off-topic but indulge me. If the average every day Joe were to
|see this movie without having viewed all the information on the website
|first, and NOT knowing whether this was reality-based or fictional, would
|some of the symbolism be as significant to that person as it was to some of
|us? Would the effect by as strong?
I purposely avoided all discussions and the hype until after I saw it. I *did* know it was a fakeumentary, because the
first time I heard of it, people were whining about how disrespectful the "Missing "Persons" posters were. But the
symbolism came through pretty strong. And it was a wonderful study in psychological terror, very spooky!
|
|7) What was the deal with Mike throwing out the map? Was he genuinely THAT
|frustrated and honestly thought it was getting them nowhere, or was he being
|influenced by something (or someone)(or something) else...
I honestly think he just did it in a moment of extreme frustration. I'm a bit of a spoiled brat, and Mike's house looked
rather affluent....and I thought "I could see myself doing that." I didn't understand why he opted to tell everybody
that he had done it though. I wouldn't have done that, until we were safely in the car.
|
|8) Was it just MY TOWN, or did anyone else have this experience...at the
|end of the final scene, when the credits start rolling, no one stood up to
|leave, like they were expecting more...
Nobody left here, either. And did your theatre leave the lights down? To me, that made the transition back to my life
different that usual, too. Just one more little mind F***, I guess.
Angie
|