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Mike Vandeman

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Apr 17, 2013, 12:29:34 AM4/17/13
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Evolution in action!

Mike


http://www.rappler.com/move-ph/26359-body-missing-mountain-biker-found

Body of missing mountain biker found

by Rappler.com
Posted on 04/16/2013 12:48 PM | Updated 04/16/2013 5:51 PM

SUBIC, Zambales ­ The body of a mountain bike racer who went missing on Sunday has been found by search and rescue teams in Sitio Naugsol, Subic town, Zambales.

Arnold “Bunso” Suero, a resident of Zambales, was a participant in the Subic Adventure Race but did not cross the finish line, even at the end of the race. His fellow team mates thought he had returned home.

He was declared missing only after his wife alerted race officials on Sunday evening. According to the race organizers, they immediately launched a search and rescue operation for Suero that lasted until early Monday morning.

The search team interviewed a local Zambales aeta named “Nestor” who, according to some accounts, may have been the last person to see Suero. Nestor, however, denied this.

FOUND. The body of mountain biker Arnold Suero was found in Sitio Naugsol, Zambales after he went missing on Sunday. Photo credit: Randy Datu

Suero was found dead Tuesday morning at the bottom of the mountain in Sitio Naugsol in Subic town. According to other bikers, Suero was a veteran.

A racer who requested anonymity said via SMS, “The body was recovered and identified by his cousin. We are waiting at the bottom of the mountain for the first group to retrieve the body.”

Autopsy on Tuesday afternoon revealed that Suero died of coronary heart disease.

Nestor is currently in police custody for questioning over the incident.

Race organizers of Subicleta, who declined to be named, said they will extend assistance to the family of Suero.

PURE BLISS? Map of Subic Adventure Race trail. Photo credit: Randy Datu

shrag...@hotmail.com

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Apr 17, 2013, 11:16:42 AM4/17/13
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On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:29:34 AM UTC-4, Mike Vandeman wrote:
> Evolution in action!
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> Mike

In June 2010, Michael J. Vandeman was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon against a mountain biker.

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/10-052810-37NC.htm

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/06/03/bicycle-opponent-arrested-for-assaulting-cyclist/

He was subsequently found guilty of exhibiting a deadly weapon and battery.

Mike Vandeman

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Apr 17, 2013, 11:48:36 PM4/17/13
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On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:16:42 AM UTC-7, shrag...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:29:34 AM UTC-4, Mike Vandeman wrote: > Evolution in action! > > > > Mike In June 2010, Michael J. Vandeman was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon against a mountain biker. http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/10-052810-37NC.htm http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/06/03/bicycle-opponent-arrested-for-assaulting-cyclist/ He was subsequently found guilty of exhibiting a deadly weapon and battery.

Thanks, once again, for confirming that you have ZERO interest in the truth. You really should learn to keep your mouth shut, since you are your own worst enemy. What a glutton for punishment! No matter how many times I expose your dishonesty, you keep coming back for more!

shrag...@hotmail.com

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Apr 21, 2013, 9:30:14 PM4/21/13
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On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:48:36 PM UTC-4, Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:16:42 AM UTC-7, shrag...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Thanks, once again, for confirming that you have ZERO interest in the truth. You really should learn to keep your mouth shut, since you are your own worst enemy. What a glutton for punishment! No matter how many times I expose your dishonesty, you keep coming back for more!


Stop projecting, Michael. As any rational and honest person can read in a previous thread, it's not that I have zero interest in the truth, it's that YOU have zero interest in telling it.

Mike Vandeman

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Apr 21, 2013, 10:17:20 PM4/21/13
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On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:16:42 AM UTC-7, shrag...@hotmail.com wrote:
And then all charges were dismissed, liar.

Mike Vandeman

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Apr 21, 2013, 10:21:22 PM4/21/13
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BS. I always tell the truth. You always lie. But we all already knew that, didn't we? As I already said several times, ALL charges were dismissed. Live with it.

Blackblade

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May 5, 2013, 5:26:50 PM5/5/13
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> BS. I always tell the truth. You always lie. But we all already knew that, didn't we? As I already said several times, ALL charges were dismissed. Live with it.

You've asserted this several times now ... but, surprise surprise, not one shred of evidence to back it up. The court found you guilty and you may, or may not, have filed a Petition for Dismissal. But that doesn't make you not guilty ... your record stays in the California and FBI CRIMINAL databases.

And, yes, you DO lie ... frequently. You've been caught out in loads.

Mike Vandeman

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May 5, 2013, 7:39:42 PM5/5/13
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Not once. You, on the other hand, lie every time you open your mouth, because you assert things that you don't actually know.

By the way, ask your mommie what "expunged" means. You obviously don't know.

Blackblade

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May 7, 2013, 6:05:32 AM5/7/13
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> > You've asserted this several times now ... but, surprise surprise, not one shred of evidence to back it up. The court found you guilty and you may, or may not, have filed a Petition for Dismissal. But that doesn't make you not guilty ... your record stays in the California and FBI CRIMINAL databases.
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> > And, yes, you DO lie ... frequently. You've been caught out in loads.
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> Not once. You, on the other hand, lie every time you open your mouth, because you assert things that you don't actually know.

I assert things that are a matter of public record or the operation of the law and can be backed up with a few simple clicks and reading of the penal code. Go and read the penal code regarding Petition for Dismissal and confirm that such 'Expungements' actually do, despite the dictionary definition of the word of which I'm well aware, remain on the California and FBI criminal databases.

And you have been caught out many times lying ... here is the most recent example of which I'm aware ...

You said "As to the beautiful scenery, only hikers & equestrians are able to enjoy it. Mountain bikers are doing nothing but looking at the trail directly in front of them, & have no time to "enjoy scenery""
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.mountain-bike/shnDNWmH32w/kmnAMUpPfR4J

But in another thread you said ... "It sounds logical that they would be satisfied, building their own mountain biking "park". But it's not true, for two reasons: (1) most of them enjoy being in nature. It's a MAJOR component of the sport. Especially, exploring NEW territory."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.bicycles.soc/nWmSWXCGgg8/OY4WC2elZ0AJ

So, you are a LIAR ! QED.

Mike Vandeman

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May 7, 2013, 10:09:39 AM5/7/13
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BS. (1) You took it out of context. (2) You can't read. Here's the real quote. As you can see, I was just reporting what mountain bikers SAY. They SAY they "enjoy nature", but it's obviously not true. People who enjoy nature don't speed through it on a bike, shredding the trails as they go. Try as you might, you won't find any lies, because I was raised to always tell the truth. So were you, but you CHOOSE to lie, in order to shield your destructive sport from the truth.

"I don't agree that there is any worthless land. ALL land was once
valuable habitat. But what you point out has become an oft-used
rationalization for more destruction: "It is already messed up, so
THAT makes it okay to mess it up some more"! That is not logic. It
seems to me that it would make even more sense to say "It is messed
up, so let's RESTORE it to useful habitat", or something else useful.

It sounds logical that they would be satisfied, building their own
mountain biking "park". But it's not true, for two reasons: (1) most
of them enjoy being in nature. It's a MAJOR component of the sport.
Especially, exploring NEW territory. (2) Due to the speed at which
they ride, they don't really experience the land that they travel
through, in more than a superficial way. Consequently, they are soon
bored with any given trail, and are hankering for another one. They
CONSUME nature.

They ALREADY have a legal alternative: ride on existing roads! I don't
see why the public (and NATURE) should be obliged to provide a
continually expanding arena for people to play whatever destructive
game they can think up. Do you?"

Blackblade

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May 8, 2013, 5:57:52 AM5/8/13
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> BS. (1) You took it out of context.

How Michael ? I provided the link to the whole thread so anyone can see the entire interaction. Unlike you, I prefer to focus on the apposite and provide the reference so people can follow up if they wish.

>(2) You can't read. Here's the real quote. As you can see, I was just reporting what mountain bikers SAY. They SAY they "enjoy nature"

I can't read ? So, do tell me, where does the word "SAY" appear in your original ?????? The full quote which you have included does not include that word.

What an idiot (or liar) you are. Committing the same mistake of which you baselessly accuse others.

Mike Vandeman

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May 8, 2013, 12:59:59 PM5/8/13
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Still waiting (20 years and counting) for any mountain biker to quote even ONE lie I've told. (Hint: the reason you can't name any is that there AREN'T any! DUH!)

Blackblade

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May 9, 2013, 5:22:23 AM5/9/13
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> Still waiting (20 years and counting) for any mountain biker to quote even ONE lie I've told. (Hint: the reason you can't name any is that there AREN'T any! DUH!)

You lie all the time ... I pointed out just one in THIS THREAD ... and you also intentionally slant facts, omit salient points and bias research. All of which is also lying.

You've been metaphorically laying about you now for 20 years during which time Mountain Biking has grown massively.

You have been convicted of criminal offences.

You've been banned from the very trails from which you attempted to evict mountainbikers.

So, overall, a pretty pathetic and unsuccessful couple of decades. I would suggest that, with your advancing years, you consider going and doing something rather more productive with your next twenty - assuming you have that many left.

Mike Vandeman

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May 9, 2013, 11:28:35 AM5/9/13
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Try to stick to the subject, idiot. (1) When are you going to apologize for LYING about me being a felon? (2) You CLAIM that I lie, but neither you nor anyone else has ever found a single lie (hint: you CAN'T, since there aren't any). Admit it: you are a TOTAL FAILURE, LIAR. You mountain bikers are all alike! You are not capable of telling the truth. EVER.

Blackblade

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May 9, 2013, 11:42:38 AM5/9/13
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> Try to stick to the subject, idiot. (1) When are you going to apologize for LYING about me being a felon? (2) You CLAIM that I lie, but neither you nor anyone else has ever found a single lie (hint: you CAN'T, since there aren't any). Admit it: you are a TOTAL FAILURE, LIAR. You mountain bikers are all alike! You are not capable of telling the truth. EVER.

I am completely on topic; you ARE a liar and I've shown that in this thread.

You ARE a felon ... you HAVE been convicted of criminal offences.

What have I said that I can't backup ... I note that, when challenged, I provide external backup ... you just say the same thing again and claim that this is 'verification'.

Even by your dismal standards, this is a pretty poor diatribe.

Mike Vandeman

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May 9, 2013, 11:49:34 PM5/9/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 8:42:38 AM UTC-7, Blackblade wrote:
> > Try to stick to the subject, idiot. (1) When are you going to apologize for LYING about me being a felon? (2) You CLAIM that I lie, but neither you nor anyone else has ever found a single lie (hint: you CAN'T, since there aren't any). Admit it: you are a TOTAL FAILURE, LIAR. You mountain bikers are all alike! You are not capable of telling the truth. EVER.
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> I am completely on topic; you ARE a liar and I've shown that in this thread.

BS. You still haven't shown a single lie that I made, in this thread or any other. You just don't want to admit that you've been BEATEN.

> You ARE a felon ... you HAVE been convicted of criminal offences.

BS. All charges were dropped.

Blackblade

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May 10, 2013, 6:28:21 AM5/10/13
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> BS. You still haven't shown a single lie that I made, in this thread or any other.

I haven't ? So, the word 'SAY' does, you assert, appear in your diatribe which I quote above ? I don't think so ... so there is a lie, in black and white, on this thread. Way to go genius !

> BS. All charges were dropped.

Oh, interesting. And another lie. So, you DIDN'T go to trial and get convicted on three criminal counts ?

The charges were never 'dropped'. You may, or may not (no proof still after many times of asking), have now filed a petition for dismissal BUT that doesn't mean that the charges were dropped.

Mike Vandeman

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May 10, 2013, 12:12:54 PM5/10/13
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ALL charges were dismissed (dropped). They no longer exist. My record was EXPUNGED. Live with it, liar.

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to apologize for calling me a "felon". I have never been a felon, regardless of how you define it. You are a LIAR. Accept it. Just like ALL mountain bikers. The scum of the Earth. The lowest form of life, by far. You are ALL criminals. When you aren't building illegal trails, you are riding illegally. Everybody knows it's true. Live with it. You made your bed, now lie in it.

Blackblade

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May 10, 2013, 12:42:57 PM5/10/13
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> ALL charges were dismissed (dropped). They no longer exist. My record was EXPUNGED. Live with it, liar.

Getting yourself in a tizzy isn't going to help you. You WERE convicted on three counts and even a petition for dismissal expungement won't remove your record from the Criminal DB. You are, and always will be, a criminal.

> By the way, I'm still waiting for you to apologize for calling me a "felon". I have never been a felon, regardless of how you define it. You are a LIAR. Accept it. Just like ALL mountain bikers. The scum of the Earth. The lowest form of life, by far. You are ALL criminals. When you aren't building illegal trails, you are riding illegally. Everybody knows it's true. Live with it. You made your bed, now lie in it.

You will be waiting a very long time ... I won't be apologising for stating the truth.

However, read ...

http://thesaurus.com/browse/felon

... and choose which synonym you prefer. Doesn't change the reality ... criminal/felon/culprit/lawbreaker.

I suggest you follow your own advice ... you made your bed, now lie in it. If you don't want to be called a criminal then don't break the law !

Mike Vandeman

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May 10, 2013, 4:16:52 PM5/10/13
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On Friday, May 10, 2013 9:42:57 AM UTC-7, Blackblade wrote:
> > ALL charges were dismissed (dropped). They no longer exist. My record was EXPUNGED. Live with it, liar.
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> Getting yourself in a tizzy isn't going to help you. You WERE convicted on three counts and even a petition for dismissal expungement won't remove your record from the Criminal DB. You are, and always will be, a criminal.
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> > By the way, I'm still waiting for you to apologize for calling me a "felon". I have never been a felon, regardless of how you define it. You are a LIAR. Accept it. Just like ALL mountain bikers. The scum of the Earth. The lowest form of life, by far. You are ALL criminals. When you aren't building illegal trails, you are riding illegally. Everybody knows it's true. Live with it. You made your bed, now lie in it.
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> You will be waiting a very long time ... I won't be apologising for stating the truth.
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> However, read ...
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> http://thesaurus.com/browse/felon

"What is a Felon?

A felon is someone who has been convicted of a violent or serious crime. They have served time in a prison and not just in a jail. Someone who is convicted of murder would be a felon. "

By your own definition, I'm not a felon, and you are a LIAR. Ergo, you owe me an apology, which I know you aren't MAN enough to give.

Blackblade

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May 13, 2013, 9:22:11 AM5/13/13
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Felon is a synonym for criminal.

http://thesaurus.com/browse/felon

Main Entry:
felon  [fel-uhn] Show IPA
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: criminal
Synonyms: con, convict, delinquent, ex-con, jailbird, lawbreaker, lifer, loser*, malefactor, offender, outlaw, yardbird

You are trying to use a very US-specific definition related to the misdemeanour/felony classification. And, even then, you are wrong since Battery can be a felony or misdemeanour depending on severity.

However, to clarify my meaning absolutely, I am using Felon as a synonym for Criminal. And, no, I won't be apologising for stating the truth.

Will you be apologising for breaking the law and wishing ill to so many others ?

Mike Vandeman

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May 13, 2013, 12:48:14 PM5/13/13
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On Monday, May 13, 2013 6:22:11 AM UTC-7, Blackblade wrote:
> Felon is a synonym for criminal. http://thesaurus.com/browse/felon Main Entry: felon  [fel-uhn] Show IPA Part of Speech: noun Definition: criminal Synonyms: con, convict, delinquent, ex-con, jailbird, lawbreaker, lifer, loser*, malefactor, offender, outlaw, yardbird You are trying to use a very US-specific definition related to the misdemeanour/felony classification. And, even then, you are wrong since Battery can be a felony or misdemeanour depending on severity. However, to clarify my meaning absolutely, I am using Felon as a synonym for Criminal. And, no, I won't be apologising for stating the truth. Will you be apologising for breaking the law and wishing ill to so many others ?

I didn't break any laws. And I don't wish ill to anyone, which is why I warn everyone about the danger of mountain biking, which you would rather sweep under the rug.

Blackblade

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May 13, 2013, 1:28:47 PM5/13/13
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> I didn't break any laws. And I don't wish ill to anyone, which is why I warn everyone about the danger of mountain biking, which you would rather sweep under the rug.

This is ridiculous. You were arrested and CONVICTED of three criminal offences. That is a matter of fact. Not opinion. If you don't admit that then you are a liar. A petition for dismissal does not undo those facts and you have, in any case, never provided any evidence to show that you were granted one anyway.

And you are outright lying when you say you don't wish ill to anyone. Your inflammatory posts show no care or concern about anyone else.

This thread here (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.mountain-bike/LxBYuTy1Lxs/7E7ohifNPPMJ) is a classic example. You were prepared to sink to new depths there.

No one is sweeping the dangers under the carpet. You pointed out yourself that videos are posted of people coming unstuck (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.mountain-bike/Ks8H1vdhJ6g/kAKKBgUMrgoJ). However, as pointed out in that thread, the dangers are far outweighed by the benefits.

Blackblade

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May 13, 2013, 1:51:21 PM5/13/13
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And, last but not least, since you CAN'T show that the word "SAY" appears in your earlier diatribe, since it doesn't, you have been caught out in a blatant lie in this thread.

Proven LIAR.

Mike Vandeman

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May 13, 2013, 11:23:12 PM5/13/13
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On Monday, May 13, 2013 10:28:47 AM UTC-7, Blackblade wrote:
> > I didn't break any laws. And I don't wish ill to anyone, which is why I warn everyone about the danger of mountain biking, which you would rather sweep under the rug.
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> This is ridiculous. You were arrested and CONVICTED of three criminal offences.

It doesn't prove I was breaking any laws.

> That is a matter of fact. Not opinion. If you don't admit that then you are a liar. A petition for dismissal does not undo those facts and you have, in any case, never provided any evidence to show that you were granted one anyway.

All charges were dismissed, nullifying any conviction. Too bad for you.

> And you are outright lying when you say you don't wish ill to anyone. Your inflammatory posts show no care or concern about anyone else.

BS. I'm the only one showing any concern here.

> This thread here (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.mountain-bike/LxBYuTy1Lxs/7E7ohifNPPMJ) is a classic example. You were prepared to sink to new depths there.
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> No one is sweeping the dangers under the carpet. You pointed out yourself that videos are posted of people coming unstuck (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.mountain-bike/Ks8H1vdhJ6g/kAKKBgUMrgoJ). However, as pointed out in that thread, the dangers are far outweighed by the benefits.

BS. How to any benefits outweigh DEATH? You are crazy. Like all mountain bikers.

Blackblade

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May 14, 2013, 5:14:25 AM5/14/13
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> > This is ridiculous. You were arrested and CONVICTED of three criminal offences.
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> It doesn't prove I was breaking any laws.

Sorry, give me a moment, am laughing too hard to type. The fact that you were convicted in a court of law doesn't prove you were breaking any laws ? Suggest you reread that and think before posting.

> > That is a matter of fact. Not opinion. If you don't admit that then you are a liar. A petition for dismissal does not undo those facts and you have, in any case, never provided any evidence to show that you were granted one anyway.
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> All charges were dismissed, nullifying any conviction. Too bad for you.

Unlikely and unproven.

> BS. How to any benefits outweigh DEATH? You are crazy. Like all mountain bikers.

Well, maybe, because things like Ischaemic Heart Disease also cause ... wait for it ... DEATHS ! Rather more of them. An order of magnitude more of them.

And, on top of that, I would rather live a full, if slightly shorter life, than spend my life simply behind a computer screen screaming at the world as you do. I enjoy my life ... if it kills me one day then so be it.

Mike Vandeman

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May 14, 2013, 9:27:56 PM5/14/13
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On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, Blackblade wrote:
> > > This is ridiculous. You were arrested and CONVICTED of three criminal offences.
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> Sorry, give me a moment, am laughing too hard to type. The fact that you were convicted in a court of law doesn't prove you were breaking any laws ? Suggest you reread that and think before posting.

I am 100% correct.

> > > That is a matter of fact. Not opinion. If you don't admit that then you are a liar. A petition for dismissal does not undo those facts and you have, in any case, never provided any evidence to show that you were granted one anyway.
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> > All charges were dismissed, nullifying any conviction. Too bad for you.
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> Unlikely and unproven.

How would YOU know?>

> > BS. How to any benefits outweigh DEATH? You are crazy. Like all mountain bikers.
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> Well, maybe, because things like Ischaemic Heart Disease also cause ... wait for it ... DEATHS ! Rather more of them. An order of magnitude more of them.
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> And, on top of that, I would rather live a full, if slightly shorter life, than spend my life simply behind a computer screen screaming at the world as you do. I enjoy my life ... if it kills me one day then so be it.

Getting repeatedly shown to be an ignorant liar is how you enjoy yourself? You ARE in trouble! Whistling in the dark, huh? You are pathetic.

Blackblade

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May 15, 2013, 7:22:04 AM5/15/13
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> I am 100% correct.

Yeah, right. Why ? Because you say so ???? Good luck with that.

> > Unlikely and unproven.
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> How would YOU know?>

Because there is no data to backup such a proposition and, despite being asked to provide it many times, you have failed to do so.

> Getting repeatedly shown to be an ignorant liar is how you enjoy yourself? You ARE in trouble! Whistling in the dark, huh? You are pathetic.

No, teasing you about being a criminal is a hobby that I engage in from time to time when I need a break from reading or drafting a contract.

I think you'll find that majority opinion is that you're the one getting himself trapped lying or misleading ... but, hey, I'm quite happy to trust others' judgement. I don't claim to be right all the time - unlike you :-)

I enjoy mountainbiking, skiing, volleyball, motorcycle racing and many other pursuits, usually with my kids - that's what I do to really enjoy myself. You are a minor amusement, sometimes.
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