Selecting a Camel-Bak, and possibly a GPS
Penny S.
>> now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it
> for that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
> question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
> software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
Keep in mind the PC software cost almost as much as the GPS. I've got the
Garmin Summit which doesn't store maps but it does do tracking and stores
data import/export. But it was more than the total of your check, not
counting the software ( TOPO CD) which is about $100 a state.
www.garmin.com has a good comparison/feature/prioce chart for their line.
Pennye S
Dan Langille
<trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote:
> Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
> right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
> space problem.
I've had a HAWG for several (> 4 years). I like it.
--
Dan Langille
resume: http://www.langille.org/
Nelson Binch
news:MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net...
| I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
| $90, and $100, respectfully).
|
| current storage plane are simply a small tool kit to do away with the
| saddle bag ('cause it says Next on it). future plans are to buy a video
| camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it will
| need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for a
| few small'ish extras.
|
| Now, pictures, IMO, are worthless unless you can see them on somebody...
| oh wait, scroll down on the camelbak.com site...
|
| Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
| right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
| space problem.
|
| thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
|
| now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it for
| that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
| question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
| software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
|
Before plonking down some major coin on the name-brand stuff, check out
Target and Wal-mart for their off-brand hydration packs. They'll cost far
less and work just as well (though with many of them you'd do well to drop
by the LBS and replace the bladder with the Camel product.
For basic rides, I use a 2001 model "Rocket." I like the baffled bladder
(lies flatter when the water gets low) and it has just the right amount of
storage for me (not a lot, but will hold everything I need.) If I want to
carry more, I converted a $10 day-pack I found at Old Navy, sewing in a
sleeve from one of those off-brand packs. Total cost, about $40 plus some
sewing time, compared to over $100 for a HAWG.
---
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(_)/ (_) all the rest, just details.
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gabrielle
> I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
> $90, and $100, respectfully).
I have used both the Mule and the Blowfish, and prefer the Mule. The
configuration of pockets, net pockets, shock cord and compression straps
on the Mule allows me to store more gear (in a way that makes sense to me)
than the zipped bellows of the Blowfish.
The Hawg was just too dern big for me.
However...I still carry an extra water bottle (or 2) for any ride more
than 10 miles because I will drain that pack.
gabrielle
MattB
news:MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net...
> $90, and $100, respectfully).
>
> saddle bag ('cause it says Next on it). future plans are to buy a video
> camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it will
> need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for a
> few small'ish extras.
>
I have a Mule and I can fit my large (as these go - it's Digital 8 instead
of MiniDV) digital camcorder in it if I tie my shell to the outside of the
pack. This still gives me room for about 50% of my reservoir being filled. I
also have a Sherpa I got for skiing and I might use that for a longer ride
that I wanted to take the camera and some other stuff on.
Digital camcorders are the way to go, IMO. If you get analog you will need
to spend extra (money and time) on a capture device. With the digital cam I
just had to get a IEEE 1394 card for the desktop (Notebook had it already)
and I found one for $18 that did the trick at www.newegg.com.
I've also been looking into external capture devices for my baby monitor (so
I can watch & listen from anywhere around the house with a laptop or even
stream to the 'net if I wanted to). Seems like about $60 for the Pinnacle
Linx from buy.com is the way to go there.
Matt
El Barista
> Ok, now some accessories i can see i need/want are as follows,
> additions/substitutions welcome.
>
> Cleaning brush kit
> Big Bite valve (if they don't come with it)
> Ergo Angle
> CommPocket (for my cell phone, perhaps a second if i get a GPS)
>
> I figure the drying rack can be fabricated, and there must be something
> to substitute the cleaning tabs (like baking soda perhaps).
Yup, I just use a metal clothes hanger stretched out with a few bends in it.
The bite valve and "ergo angle" should be on a new CamelBak, as well as the
"Omega" bladder. I've never had the need for a brush kit and I've had the
same bladder for almost two years. The only thing I've had to do with mine
is put some baking soda in it if I left water in it too long (I had some
water that was in it for about two months while I did some
cross-training...) or maybe a tablespoon of bleach in an almost full bladder
if I wanted to get serious. CommPocket for a phone is only handy if you
think you're going to be making or taking calls on the trail. I keep my
phone stashed inside my rear pocket with the ringer turned off for emergency
use only. I only pull it out and turn it on if the group gets separated at
one of the longer trails and I'm riding with people that don't know it well.
-will
Mar...@mandmlowe.dmcdial.net
<trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote:
>In article <MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net>, travis57
>@nospam.megalink.net says...
Snip
>Ok, now some accessories i can see i need/want are as follows,
>additions/substitutions welcome.
>
>Cleaning brush kit
>Big Bite valve (if they don't come with it)
>Ergo Angle
>CommPocket (for my cell phone, perhaps a second if i get a GPS)
>
>I figure the drying rack can be fabricated, and there must be something
>to substitute the cleaning tabs (like baking soda perhaps).
>
>~Travis
A drying "rack" can be fabricated from some large and small zip ties,
the large ones connected "inside out", and cleaning tablets for
dentures will clean bladder and tube cheaply and well. Or get a
platypus bladder which can be put into boiling water to disinfect and
clean, the valves are cumbersome so I use Camelbak bite valves
cheers
Martin
El Barista
>> I keep my phone stashed [...] I only pull it out and turn it on
>> if the group gets separated [...]
> Just a question though, if you turn the ringer off, and somebody gets
> separated...
^^ I *ahem* get the phone out and turn the ringer on... Works well enough,
only had the need to do that a couple of times. Of course one of those
times I was already in the middle of a post ride beer and burger when the
guy that was SUPPOSED to be riding with the lost rider showed up.
-will
Vaughn
blowfish for 45.00. That should help a little!
Vaughn
bomba
> I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
> $90, and $100, respectfully).
I went through the same thing. I felt the Hawg was too big, so it was a
toss up between the Mule and the Blowfish. I thought the Mule was a
better bet for my needs, but they didn't have them when I was ordering a
load of stuff so I went for the Blowfish. Totally happy with the way it
worked out.
bomba
> However...I still carry an extra water bottle (or 2) for any ride more
> than 10 miles because I will drain that pack.
Anything over 10 miles?! What, are your breasts reservoirs, or something?
Penny S.
hydrate or die.
penny
JD
> news:MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net...
> | I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
> | $90, and $100, respectfully).
> |
> | current storage plane are simply a small tool kit to do away with the
> | saddle bag ('cause it says Next on it). future plans are to buy a video
> | camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it will
> | need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for a
> | few small'ish extras.
> |
> | Now, pictures, IMO, are worthless unless you can see them on somebody...
> | oh wait, scroll down on the camelbak.com site...
> |
> | Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
> | right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
> | space problem.
> |
> | My federal check was $219 (i had to double check the return forms as i
> | thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
> |
> | now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it for
> | that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
> | question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
> | software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
Astounding, simply astounding. Why the hell anyone here gave your
sorry ass anything is well beyond me. You sit and whine about your
POS walgoose for a couple of years, yet you gab on and on about how
great your computer crap is and how much you spend on it. "How about
saving your money for a real bike" echoed throughout the ng, yet you
made it clear that your techno shit was much more important than a
bike. Sad shit. Next (pun intended), you proceed to make your POS
bike even more crappy and unsafe and it generates a pity party that
you either expected, or did not expect, though you reveled in it,
taking free items from those who felt sorry enough for you to send
them. NOW, you sit and plot how you can spend extra money on needless
shit like a camcorder and GPS, including more computer interface
techno shit that is completely needless. I have donated items FOC to
more than a couple of AM-B denizens, however I would never even think
of giving you the jam out of my big toe, you selfish little shit.
JustDisgusted
Dan Langille
<trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote:
> > For basic rides, I use a 2001 model "Rocket." I like the baffled bladder
> > (lies flatter when the water gets low) and it has just the right amount of
> > storage for me (not a lot, but will hold everything I need.) If I want to
> > carry more, I converted a $10 day-pack I found at Old Navy, sewing in a
> > sleeve from one of those off-brand packs. Total cost, about $40 plus some
> > sewing time, compared to over $100 for a HAWG.
> >
>
> But cost isn't really a problem.
>
> I kind of like the sound of the baffled reservoir, though that can be
> purchased separately.
baffles? flatter? Just remove the air from the reservoir before riding.
It goes flat as it empties.
Dan Langille
<trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote:
> Cleaning brush kit
I've never had a need for it. If scum develops, a bit of baby bottle
cleaner removes it. No scrubbing required.
> I figure the drying rack can be fabricated, and there must be something
> to substitute the cleaning tabs (like baking soda perhaps).
I've never dried it out.
Dan Langille
<news.20...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
> I keep my
> phone stashed inside my rear pocket with the ringer turned off for emergency
> use only. I only pull it out and turn it on if the group gets separated at
> one of the longer trails and I'm riding with people that don't know it well.
I find that FSR radios are better for this.
bomba
>>>However...I still carry an extra water bottle (or 2) for any ride
>>>more than 10 miles because I will drain that pack.
>>
>>Anything over 10 miles?! What, are your breasts reservoirs, or
>>something?
>
>
> hydrate or die.
Catchy. Someone should use that as an advertising logo...
BB
> now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it for
> that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
> question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
> software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
Given your funding situation, I'd spend the money on riding stuff rather
than a GPS. I mean really, how many trails are you going to map? I'm in
the process of mapping out some local trails, but I'm using a borrowed
GPS. The half-dozen trails I'll map out simply aren't worth the money to
buy one myself.
There are some bike upgrades that you'll probably want; plus a good helmet
is a helluva lot cooler than a cheap one. Not to mention some good riding
gear. Bike computers are kind of nice, and can be had for $15. If you have
enough left over, clipless pedals are nice.
BTW, the Mule is a good choice. It is, after all, the most popular model.
I got a "Rocket", which looks damn cool but doesn't hold enough water for
longer rides. Plus, the bladder's leaking less than a year later.
--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
El Barista
> I find that FSR radios are better for this.
Yeah, we've talked about getting some but haven't bothered yet. I'm used to
riding with my cell phone anyway so a radio would be more accumulation.
Radio would be better for some of the areas where coverage is shoddy though.
-will
Penny S.
> On Tue, 06 May 2003 17:46:31 GMT, "El Barista"
> <news.20...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>
>> I keep my
>> phone stashed inside my rear pocket with the ringer turned off for
>> emergency use only. I only pull it out and turn it on if the group
>> gets separated at one of the longer trails and I'm riding with
>> people that don't know it well.
>
> I find that FSR radios are better for this.
you call each other while on the same ride? that's just too much.
I'm with Dan L for talkabouts if you must have communication...
Penny
Penny S.
two pack of cobras with all the sub channels at Costco for $89.
Penny
Penny S.
> On Tue, 6 May 2003 11:52:56 -0400, Technician wrote:
>
>> now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it
>> for that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
>> question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
>> software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into
>> account)?
>
> Given your funding situation, I'd spend the money on riding stuff
> rather than a GPS. I mean really, how many trails are you going to
> map? I'm in the process of mapping out some local trails, but I'm
> using a borrowed GPS. The half-dozen trails I'll map out simply
> aren't worth the money to buy one myself.
>
no kidding, a GPS is definately in the not necessary catergory. Our excuse
us that Craig is on a search and rescue commitee for the ski patrol, and
they exchange data with the sheriff's dept, and he's in charge of mapping
out drainages where dilweeds tend to make wrong turns.
You could save on a camel back too... a couple of 20 oz water bottles and a
couple of metal cages would leave you a lot left over for truly useful
stuff. I know, thank you gifts for all the guys who sent you free
stuff....
penny
El Barista
> you call each other while on the same ride? that's just too much.
> I'm with Dan L for talkabouts if you must have communication...
Only had to twice. We tend to end up breaking into two different ability
groups and once lost a group to a mechanical, another time we lost a guy
somewhere in a 25 mile web of trails. Don't need to chit-chat while riding,
it's for emergency use.
-will
Penny S.
I know that, just joshing ya...
ps
gabrielle
<peals of laughter>
Nope, just rilly rilly thirsty.
gabrielle
BB
> You could save on a camel back too... a couple of 20 oz water bottles and a
> couple of metal cages would leave you a lot left over for truly useful
> stuff.
I dunno, I'd put a hydration pak near the top of the list. Drinking from a
dusty (or muddy) water bottle is just nasty.
Penny S.
> In article <vbgck01...@corp.supernews.com>,
> pennyd...@invalidcet.com says...
> spotty over 1.5 miles, and if one is just over the top of a hill, it
> fades out completely. they depend entirely on line-of-site. similar to
> cellular. that's why cellular towers are placed so high, and there
> will usually be several towers if your in hilly terrain.
Really. I am so glad you shared that rare knowledge.
KLydesdale
"JD" <CKA...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:bff73eaa.03050...@posting.google.com...
Yeah really... And to think that I actually serious when I offered to send
him a set of spare wheels. I'm damn glad he didn't take me up on that
offer because I found someplace that could use them more. Those wheels and
the other spare stuff I have including an old Maruishi ATB are going to
Back Alley bikes: http://www.freep.com/news/locway/gal2_20021202.htm
Bill Porter
wrote:
>I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
>$90, and $100, respectfully).
>
>current storage plane are simply a small tool kit to do away with the
>saddle bag ('cause it says Next on it). future plans are to buy a video
>camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it will
>need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for a
>few small'ish extras.
>
>Now, pictures, IMO, are worthless unless you can see them on somebody...
>oh wait, scroll down on the camelbak.com site...
>
>Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
>right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
>space problem.
>
>My federal check was $219 (i had to double check the return forms as i
>thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
>
>now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it for
>that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
>question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
>software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
>
>If not, i'll just hang on to it for a while.
>
>~Travis
I have the Garmin eTrex (Basic Yellow) and the TOPO software, very satisfied.
I have two Camelbaks. I have a Rocket for racing and non-epic training rides.
Small as hell, 70oz bladder and just enough room for CO2, patch kit, spare tube,
multitool, powerbar/gels, and of course, Duct Tape. I also have a TransAlp and
it is downright roomy with a 100oz Bladder. I can stuff all the my video gear,
jacket, lunch, a couple bottles of Gatoraide, etc.. Hell I could do an
overnight camping trip with this pack. Very comfortable and what I would
consider a "Epic" pack. Can get for $110 with some looking.
Bill Porter
www.mountainbikebill.com
Pete
"Technician" <trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net...
> $90, and $100, respectfully).
>
> camera
>
> software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
YGBSM!
Travis: Waaaa..I'm broke. I have a brokedick job, I think I'll kill myself
Travis: I just spent waaaay too much on a PC I didn't need and I'm not sure
I know how to use.
Travis: Waaa...I'm broke. I have no money to upgrade my already POS
Walgoose.
A.M-B: Hey...no prob, Trav. Here's a whole bunch of free stuff. Almost
enough for a whole new bike.
Travis: Gee...thanks.
A.M-B: Think nothing of it
Travis: Whoa...I have a buck fifty burning a hole in my pocket. What new
useless toys can I buy with it? GPS? $100 waterbottle? What do you guys
think?
A.M-B: whaddaFUCK??
Trav....I think you should spend that $219 on a resume service, or some
classes, so you can get a better job so you can move out of your parents
house and have more money and not have to live off the largesse of other
kindly souls.
Don't buy the $100 camelbak. My $20 Target one has lasted 3 years and many
thousand miles. Enough room for a camera, batterypack, tools, H20, food,
etc, etc..Still on the original bladder, with no 'funk'.
I respect the need to buy 'quality' stuff. But if you are as truly broke as
you always seem to be....there are other priorities. Get a freakin JOB!
Pete
Gary in VA
"JD"
> Astounding, simply astounding. Why the hell anyone here gave your
> sorry ass anything is well beyond me. You sit and whine about your
> POS walgoose for a couple of years, yet you gab on and on about how
> great your computer crap is and how much you spend on it. "How about
> saving your money for a real bike" echoed throughout the ng, yet you
> made it clear that your techno shit was much more important than a
> bike. Sad shit. Next (pun intended), you proceed to make your POS
> bike even more crappy and unsafe and it generates a pity party that
> you either expected, or did not expect, though you reveled in it,
> taking free items from those who felt sorry enough for you to send
> them. NOW, you sit and plot how you can spend extra money on needless
> shit like a camcorder and GPS, including more computer interface
> techno shit that is completely needless. I have donated items FOC to
> more than a couple of AM-B denizens, however I would never even think
> of giving you the jam out of my big toe, you selfish little shit.
>
> JustDisgusted
>
I'm just sitting here biting my tongue. What comes around goes around.
Gary in VA (fool me once...)
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
> right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
> space problem.
You got all that right.
I have one of each of those listed, the Mule is WAY too small
the Blowfish is nice, the HAWG is _huge_ but doesn;t fel like it when
wearing it. depedning on what I'm doing where I'm riding I'll take
either the Blowfish or H.A.W.G. (for Patrol duty where I'm carrying a
Level 1 first responder kit, only the HAWG will suffice.)
> My federal check was $219 (i had to double check the return forms as i
> thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
<cha....ching>
> now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it for
> that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
> question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
> software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
Do you want the ability to dowload USGS topo's tpo teh GPS or just
upload tracks from it?
The Garmin eTrex is as basic as it gets and is pretty cheap $$$$ (about
$120, chepaer used, etc. I have one that served me for several years
just fine.
If you are going ot "step up" look at the Garmin Legend $270'ish
> ~Travis
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> tracking is what i meant. just something i can ride the trails and
> generate a map somehow.
Garmin eTrex and the shareware package GarTrip http://www.gartrip.de/
(I happen host the US Mirror site ;-)
ClydesdaleMTB
Nelson Binch wrote:
>
> Before plonking down some major coin on the name-brand stuff, check out
> Target and Wal-mart for their off-brand hydration packs.
Stitch for stith, they ARE Camel-Baks, with a cheaper bladder.
I'm convinced tey comee of the same assebly line just, with a different
label sewn on.
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> Cleaning brush kit
Not necessary ust keep it full of water and use it regularly.
> Big Bite valve (if they don't come with it)
They all do, now.
> Ergo Angle
ditto
> CommPocket (for my cell phone, perhaps a second if i get a GPS)
Comm pocket is NFG for GPS
Your body blocks the signals
keep the GPS in the mesh pocket in back
> I figure the drying rack can be fabricated,
A coat hanger works fine
> and there must be something
> to substitute the cleaning tabs (like baking soda perhaps).
see above re: cleaning brush
ClydesdaleMTB
JD wrote:
> Astounding, simply astounding. Why the hell anyone here gave your
> sorry ass anything is well beyond me. You sit and whine about your
> POS walgoose for a couple of years, yet you gab on and on about how
> great your computer crap is and how much you spend on it. "How about
> saving your money for a real bike" echoed throughout the ng, yet you
> made it clear that your techno shit was much more important than a
> bike. Sad shit. Next (pun intended), you proceed to make your POS
> bike even more crappy and unsafe and it generates a pity party that
> you either expected, or did not expect, though you reveled in it,
> taking free items from those who felt sorry enough for you to send
> them. NOW, you sit and plot how you can spend extra money on needless
> shit like a camcorder and GPS, including more computer interface
> techno shit that is completely needless. I have donated items FOC to
> more than a couple of AM-B denizens, however I would never even think
> of giving you the jam out of my big toe, you selfish little shit.
>
> JustDisgusted
Pretty much how I see it, but too polite to say it.
David L
"Technician" <trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net...
> I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
> $90, and $100, respectfully).
>
> camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it will
> need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for a
> few small'ish extras.
>
> Now, pictures, IMO, are worthless unless you can see them on somebody...
> oh wait, scroll down on the camelbak.com site...
>
> right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
> space problem.
>
> thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
>
> that cost, plus the 5% tax,
i wish we had 5% tax!
that leaves me with $114. so my next
> question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
> software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
>
> If not, i'll just hang on to it for a while.
>
> ~Travis
> --
> travis57 at megalink dot net
>
> http://www.megalink.net/~farmers/mtty.mp3
Penny S.
>
> I'm sorry you feel that way. i come from a long line of genetic
> impulse spending (why my mother no longer has a credit card).
"genetic impulse spending" oh, puhleeze ... I don't think I've ever read a
more lame excuse ( or heard a bigger load of shit excuse ) for lack of
self control, lack of impulse control, self gratification, lack of
character, lack of personal responsibililty... what ever you want to call
it. It's all about choices, not about genetics. Just because your parents
were.... means nothing, absolutely nothing. Did you know that YOU are
(supposedly) in control of your life... not your genes, not your parents,
just you and the choices you make.
> If you feel you have been misguided, i can return the items if you
> like.
>
> It truly was not my intention to act in a selfish manor.
If it were me I sure wouldn't have blabbed about my tax refund after
pleading poverty...
Penny
Bob Rahgers
> In article <b998v1$gr93g$1...@ID-130844.news.dfncis.de>,
> bbauer...@freeshell.org says...
> savings account collecting $0.01 per month.
>
> I may use it to buy things needed in the future, like tires, tubes, etc
> (or non-bike stuff like gas to get to the trailhead of some distant
> trail).
>
> I may get a new helmet. i already have a fairly good bike computer
> (tells me most of what i want to know). I may see about a jersey and
> riding shorts (of the baggy kind, this is not a form fitting kind of
> body). the old T-shirt and khaki shorts are not exactly prime bike wear.
>
> At least whatever else i can get for the money i have. (minus the
> minimum balance, and the cost of the needed front shifter, i am left
> with about $150.)
>
> Plus i have to get a few minor items to stock my bak tool kit. a spare
> tire, a _metric_ allen wrench set (preferably of the all-in-one fold-up
> style like my standard set). then i can get the frame pump off of the
> frame, where i think it will rub and wear paint off (just a cheap one
> anyway, but it so far has worked 100% of the time), or maybe replace it
> with a CO2 thing (more compact and lighter anyway).
>
> I'm sure my LBS will be seeing more of me. at least until the fed check
> runs out (still applying most every where. got a few interviews, but
> nothing panned out).
> --
> ~Travis
Me thinks ol' Travis is dropping hints for the next round of mercy begging
Bob Rahgers
> > | I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
> > | $90, and $100, respectfully).
> > |
> > | current storage plane are simply a small tool kit to do away with the
> > | saddle bag ('cause it says Next on it). future plans are to buy a
video
> > | camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it
will
> > | need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for
a
> > | few small'ish extras.
> > |
> > | Now, pictures, IMO, are worthless unless you can see them on
somebody...
> > | oh wait, scroll down on the camelbak.com site...
> > |
> > | Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
> > | right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the
unused
> > | space problem.
> > |
> > | My federal check was $219 (i had to double check the return forms as i
> > | thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
> > |
for
> > | that cost, plus the 5% tax, that leaves me with $114. so my next
> > | question, is there a mapping GPS unit (with download to PC mapping
> > | software) availible for that price (taking shipping/tax into account)?
>
Too fucking funny
Bob Rahgers
"Gary in VA" <gsa...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:F0_ta.59388$4P1.5...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
S-U-C-K-E-R !!!!
Bob Rahgers
> In article <F0_ta.59388$4P1.5...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> gsa...@earthlink.net says...
>
> I have created a fairly sizable grab bag for you and Clyde to select as
> much, or as little as you want (i keep finding stuff to add now and then
> too). the most recent list was posted in this thread as a reply to Penny
> S. (05/06 8:34 PM).
>
> Shipping is on me of course.
>
> ~Travis
> --
> ~Travis
>
> travis57 at megalink dot net
Yeah...that's the ticket......just reach in to the ol' grab bag
Bob Rahgers
"ClydesdaleMTB" <Clydes...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3EB86CDE...@netscape.net...
and you seemed like such a smart guy too!
Bob Rahgers
> In article <3EB86CDE...@netscape.net>, Clydes...@netscape.net
> says...
> spending (why my mother no longer has a credit card).
>
> bag" for you can Gary to select as much or as little as you want. i keep
> finding stuff to add to it, so there just may be some jewels there. the
> most recent list was posted in this thread as a reply to Penny S. (05/06
>
> I can't begin to come up with items that would equal the value of the
> items you and Gary sent me, but i can try my best.
>
> If you feel you have been misguided, i can return the items if you like.
>
> It truly was not my intention to act in a selfish manor.
> ~Travis
>
> travis57 at megalink dot net
Travis,
Obviously your psychosis is exceeded only by your lack of self esteem
Bob Rahgers
> In article <MPG.1921a4623...@news.megalink.net>, travis57
> @nospam.megalink.net says...
> > I have narrowed it down to the Mule, BlowFish, or Hawg (MSRP of $80,
> > $90, and $100, respectfully).
> >
> > current storage plane are simply a small tool kit to do away with the
> > saddle bag ('cause it says Next on it). future plans are to buy a video
> > camera (digital or analog, not sure. must have an a/v input) so it will
> > need room for that, plus some padding. and i would like some space for a
> > few small'ish extras.
> >
> > Now, pictures, IMO, are worthless unless you can see them on somebody...
> > oh wait, scroll down on the camelbak.com site...
> >
> > Ok, i can see the mule looks rather small, the blowfish may be about
> > right, and the hawg is big, but has compression straps to fix the unused
> > space problem.
> >
> > My federal check was $219 (i had to double check the return forms as i
> > thought it was supposed to be $119), so cost is not really a problem.
> >
>
> additions/substitutions welcome.
>
> Cleaning brush kit
> Big Bite valve (if they don't come with it)
> CommPocket (for my cell phone, perhaps a second if i get a GPS)
>
> to substitute the cleaning tabs (like baking soda perhaps).
>
> --
> travis57 at megalink dot net
>
Travis,
How about adding your mailing address with your wish list
El Barista
> I know that, just joshing ya...
Sorry, the Luddites have me all defensive. Seems like you have to be a
technophobe to be a "cool" rider on A.M-B these days...
How's the weather up your ways anyway? I might be headed to Portland for
some business work and will be bringing my bike if I do.
-will
Bob Rahgers
"Penny S." <pennyd...@invalidcet.com> wrote in message
news:vbgltoe...@corp.supernews.com...
The next e-suicide could be your fault.
Shaun Rimmer
<surgery performed>
> JustDisgusted
"I am not alone".
Shaun aRe
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> As an attempted reimbursement for you and Gary, i have created a "grab
> bag" for you can Gary to select as much or as little as you want.
I don't need anything..... well maybee a HD a ATI All-In-Wonder board,
and some SD-RAM for my Duaghters PC. BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT..
You want to do something for me, stock up a good first-aid kit to keep
in the Camel-Bak...... someday, someone may need your assitance, be
prepared for that day!
The take a few dollars and join NEMBA or IMBA
> If you feel you have been misguided,
A camel-bak is a necessity, IMO. rates right up there with handlebars
and tires.
> i can return the items if you like.
NO, I gave you that which I no longer needed/wanted.
> It truly was not my intention to act in a selfish manor.
OCD is a b!tch isn't it?
ClydesdaleMTB
David L wrote:
> "Technician" <trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote in message
>>now, assuming the top cost selection above, and that my LBS sells it for
>>that cost, plus the 5% tax,
> i wish we had 5% tax!
TAX, what's that?-)
--
John "tax free in NH" G.
Corvus Corvax
>
> lack of self control, lack of impulse control, self gratification, lack of
> character, lack of personal responsibililty... what ever you want to call
> it.
I call it being a noxious little weasel. Still liking those odds ,Clyde?
CC
Bob Rahgers
>>
> But cost isn't really a problem.
>
Now that he got his bike for free :)
Bob Rahgers
Except for property taxes which are three times as much as everyone else's
in the country
ClydesdaleMTB
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> "Penny S." <pennyd...@invalidcet.com> wrote
>
>>lack of self control, lack of impulse control, self gratification, lack of
>>character, lack of personal responsibililty... what ever you want to call
>>it.
> I call it being a noxious little weasel.
Poor judgement indeed!
> Still liking those odds ,Clyde?
Yeah, he seems to be taking it well enough.. Certainly not reached
"melt-down" mode, yet.
Gary in VA
"Technician" <trav...@nospam.megalink.net> wrote in message
> It's just that you and Gary's subtle reactions to JD's post game me the
> impression you felt cheated.
And I wasn't looking for anything in return either. Just need to think about
your postings before putting it out there for the rest of the world to see.
Gary in VA
MattB
> Astounding, simply astounding. Why the hell anyone here gave your
> sorry ass anything is well beyond me. You sit and whine about your
> POS walgoose for a couple of years, yet you gab on and on about how
> great your computer crap is and how much you spend on it. "How about
> saving your money for a real bike" echoed throughout the ng, yet you
> made it clear that your techno shit was much more important than a
> bike. Sad shit. Next (pun intended), you proceed to make your POS
> bike even more crappy and unsafe and it generates a pity party that
> you either expected, or did not expect, though you reveled in it,
> taking free items from those who felt sorry enough for you to send
> them. NOW, you sit and plot how you can spend extra money on needless
> shit like a camcorder and GPS, including more computer interface
> techno shit that is completely needless. I have donated items FOC to
> more than a couple of AM-B denizens, however I would never even think
> of giving you the jam out of my big toe, you selfish little shit.
>
> JustDisgusted
I see your point. Being the optimist I am, I'd like to think he might have
seen these acts of good will (how I perceive them) and possibly changed his
attitudes a little. It may take time to sink in, but I have to say I'm
really impressed with the kindness and generosity demonstrated here. I'm not
a religious guy, but the basic morals of Christianity are a good thing. Be
nice to people. Forgive people. Time will tell if this was all an exercise
in futility or a way to reach someone who was lost. The donors seemed to
have extra stuff they didn't need. They haven't really lost anything except
some clutter and a little time. Not a huge investment.
I also have a weakness for "techno shit". It ended up being a pretty good
career for me. Maybe one day he'll find his way and make a good living using
technology skills. Maybe he'll give back to the world and help someone out,
maybe not. It doesn't seem like we've lost much and maybe we (the world) can
get a return on the investment one day. Or maybe not...
Matt (I know there's some good in all you fucks ;-)
ClydesdaleMTB
Bob Rahgers wrote:
> "ClydesdaleMTB" <Clydes...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:3EB8E835...@netscape.net...
>>David L wrote:
>>>"Technician"wrote in message
>>>>that cost, plus the 5% tax,
>>>i wish we had 5% tax!
>>TAX, what's that?-)
>>John "tax free in NH" G.
> Except for property taxes
True
> which are three times as much as everyone else's
> in the country
NOT true..... Keep trolling.
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> In article <3EB8E7E3...@netscape.net>, Clydes...@netscape.net
> says...
>
>>
>>Technician wrote:
>>
>>>As an attempted reimbursement for you and Gary, i have created a "grab
>>>bag" for you can Gary to select as much or as little as you want.
>>
>>I don't need anything..... well maybee a HD a ATI All-In-Wonder board,
>>and some SD-RAM for my Duaghters PC. BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT..
>
>
> It's just that you and Gary's subtle reactions to JD's post game me the
> impression you felt cheated.
I never asked for any payment nor expexted any so how could I feel
"cheated" I got rid of a frame I'd never use. (an added bonus SWMBO is
happier that the basement/shop is one bike "cleaner".)
>>You want to do something for me, stock up a good first-aid kit to keep
>>in the Camel-Bak...... someday, someone may need your assitance, be
>>prepared for that day!
>>
>
>
> I was actually planning to. the second up compartment (between front
> pouch and middle exposed compartment) looks big enough for a fairly
> sizable first-aid kit. Any recommendations for contents?
that is a whole other thread......
best not to take up here.
>>The take a few dollars and join NEMBA or IMBA
>>
>
>
> I was planning a while back to join IMBA, guess now would be a good time
> to do it. At that same time a while back, i was also looking at the bike
> patrol (had intentions of being an EMT at the time). I'll go for just an
> IMBA membership, and see about getting the certifications for NMBP.
All you need is current Red Cross Certification and IMBA Membership
>>>It truly was not my intention to act in a selfish manor.
>>OCD is a b!tch isn't it?
> Not sure i follow the relation of that last statement.
"Ohh Ohh I got a dolllar, I gotta go spend it!"
BB
> How's the weather up your ways anyway? I might be headed to Portland for
> some business work and will be bringing my bike if I do.
Portland's not exactly Penny's area; its a lot dryer up her way. Its a
muddy mess here in Portland; we just had one of the wettest Aprils in
history. Fireroads are rideable if you don't mind getting crap all over
you, but it wouldn't be real good on the singletrack.
--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
Penny S.
dunno... I"m five hours to the NE of Portland. Ask Blaine or Gabrielle
Penny
Penny S.
>
> All you need is current Red Cross Certification and IMBA Membership
>
>
not OEC? mmmm too that's a reall excellent course that you should consider
( Outdoor Emergency Care, National Ski Patrol) My guys get to do a class
in high angle rescue this summer whoo hoo...
Penny
Penny S.
> In article <mh9ua.60593$4P1.5...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> gsa...@earthlink.net says...
>
> Hopefully i can do better in the future (contrary to some peoples
> opinions, who shall rename nameless, i really am trying to fit in as a
> normal member of AM-B).
helpful hint... please provide information on subjects that you actually are
well informed in... lame misinformation is well, lame. Wanting to help is a
wonderful things but it's best to stick to things that you have a basis in
or experience with. Notice I comment on fabric or learning skills but never
on mechanical stuff.
just trying to help...
Penny
El Barista
> Portland's not exactly Penny's area; its a lot dryer up her way. Its a
> muddy mess here in Portland; we just had one of the wettest Aprils in
> history. Fireroads are rideable if you don't mind getting crap all over
> you, but it wouldn't be real good on the singletrack.
Figures. I keep seeing idyllic photos of singletrack with lush ferns and
mossy trees. Far cry from the dusty, scrub brush trails here in Texas.
Well I have a little bit before I'd be heading up there, hopefully things'll
be better by then.
-will
El Barista
> If you are going ot "step up" look at the Garmin Legend $270'ish
Actually the Legend is $199 at Amazon, and you get a $50 rebate from Garmin.
-will
BB
Either send me an e-mail or post here before you head up. We've had a lot
more sun than predicted in the past week. It'll hopefully start drying out
over the next couple of weeks. If it does, you'll need directions to
trails (as there is no singletrack in town). Or maybe a guide. :-)
El Barista
> Either send me an e-mail or post here before you head up. We've had a lot
> more sun than predicted in the past week. It'll hopefully start drying out
> over the next couple of weeks. If it does, you'll need directions to
> trails (as there is no singletrack in town). Or maybe a guide. :-)
Hey, thanks for the offer! I'll be sure to take you up on that when I find
out what's going to happen with this whole branch office thing.
-will
ClydesdaleMTB
Penny S. wrote:
> ClydesdaleMTB wrote:
>
>>All you need is current Red Cross Certification and IMBA Membership
>>
>>
>
>
> not OEC?
pER: http://www.imba.com/nmbp/membership.html
There are two mandatory requirements for membership in the National
Mountain Bike Patrol:
# Current certification in basic first aid and CPR.
# Successful completion of any of the following courses:
* A mountain bike patrol training course (taught by a local
NMBP-affiliated group).
* A volunteer host training program (taught by local land
manager).
* A ski area specific mountain bike patroller training (taught by a
local ski area management or ski patrol).
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> Yeah, apparently thinking is not one of my strong points. ;-)
"DON'T THINK, DO!" -- Sensei jack
> i really am trying to fit in
THAT is the problem.
> as a normal member of AM-B).
Is there such a thing?
ClydesdaleMTB
Technician wrote:
> but where am i going to complete the second requirement?
> I am not aware of any local NMBP members (is there a directory someplace?)
you can go here:
http://www.imba.com/nmbp/patrols.html
there is nothing in ME (yet) but I have it on god authority that NH has
a fine Patrol program....
(You just need to get to Bear Brook State Park in NH. :-)
Shaun Rimmer
>
>
> Technician wrote:
>
> > Yeah, apparently thinking is not one of my strong points. ;-)
>
> "DON'T THINK, DO!" -- Sensei jack
Oh aye!
> > i really am trying to fit in
>
> THAT is the problem.
Trying is often the undoing of success.
> > as a normal member of AM-B).
>
> Is there such a thing?
Oh fuck yeah, me of course! ',;~}~
Shaun aRe - normal as a cake fish.