What is freeride?
ZSO
Jon Bond
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> Duh! I must be a newbie!!!
That you are. <wink>
Anyway, three definitions for ya:
The Bike Industry one:
"Freeriding is the next wave in mountain biking, where you can go harder,
bigger, and better than before!"
Crazy jackass one:
"Yo dude, freeriding is like, finding something nobody in their right mind
would like, go off, and like, going off it, and stuff." (thats to whoever
made that one up, I forget who it was now. Excuse the embelishments!)
Closest to real one:
"Freeriding is a term used to describe a bike meant for taking big hits and
such, kinda in between XC and downhill. Either a hardtail with a long
travel (100mm) fork, or a fully with a fair amount of suspension (3-4") and
a fairly large fork (100mm or so), but with 3 chainrings and light enough to
be able to go uphill as well as down".
So, "freeride" is kinda a hated term due to the second definition, which
includes going off trail and destroying stuff. However, freeride bikes are
a blast to ride, if you can deal with the extra weight and you aren't
planning on racing the bike (unless you're a beast who can huck the 29
pounds of metal around like it was a 2 penny nail!)
Hope that helps!
Jon "Commander" Bond
ZSO
at 45 yrs old. If I only was younger!
Thank you much!
"Jon Bond" <otakuk...@home.com> wrote in message
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G.T.
It's seeing what the stupidest thing is that one can do on a bicycle.
Greg
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Chris Thurrott
wrote on 7/10/01 12:30 AM:
>
> It's seeing what the stupidest thing is that one can do on a bicycle.
>
> Greg
Like Paul Newman in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"?
-C
D a v i d E m r i c h
"ZSO" <zs...@home.com> wrote in message news:Duu27.14152$EW.5...@news1.rdc1.tx.home.com...
> Great, glad I asked, So as a newbie, This advice need not apply, especially
> at 45 yrs old. If I only was younger!
> Thank you much!
Freeride bikes are perfect if you want a comfy ride. Something plenty of
adult riders can appreciate.
I'm younger than you, but still too old to bash any more helmets. Even so my
freeride bike is my favorite and the one I usually ride. Right now it has 4" of
suspension travel front & rear, and it's a blast when going up, down, or whatever.
I nearly always choose it over my hardtail.
Not all freeride bikes ride the same though. I rode lots of bikes in the
dirt (uphill and downhill) before choosing mine. Some don't climb well,
some don't descend well, and some bikes with dual-crown forks
have a limited turning radius.
David
id...@worldonline.dk
Chris Thurrott wrote:
> Like Paul Newman in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"?
>
He scored so whats stupid about that?
Regards
Bruno
id...@worldonline.dk
> and some bikes with dual-crown forks
> have a limited turning radius.
Not much of a problem once you get used to it but some people also bump their knees on the
crown!
I for one am very happy with my X-vert R dual-crown on my freeride bike. The dual crowns tend
to be stiffer and provide better control but they are also a bit heavy.
Regards
Bruno
PS. If you decide to put together a bike someday and want a dual-crown remember to make sure
the frame can handle the added stress.
Jeff
> Duh! I must be a newbie!!!
Freeriding is really just a term most industry types use to describe
everything from big drops to sick steeps, man made stunts and other
things. People like GT, who obviously don't get it or can't do it,
like to critisize it.
Freeriding is about riding with your friends, pushing your own
boundaries of fitness, fear and sometimes equipment. It's about trying
things you didn't think you could do before and sometimes biffing, but
getting back up and trying it again. Just because you haven't got the
balls to do it, doesn't give you the right to comment on it or call it
stupid. It seems to me, that most of the magazines (which, of course
are published in California, the global centre of opinion creation)
don't get it either. They take every opportunity to bash what some
extremely talented riders have taken to new levels. But don't forget,
whether you "freeride" or ride XC, you should do it for yourself, and
have fun. That's what it's all about.
Also, Jon, despite what the magazines say, you'll never find a bike
that can actually stand up to drops over 4 feet under 30 lbs. They
also should have around double the travel you mentioned. My hardtail
comes in around 35 pounds and I raced it in an 8 hour XC race this
weekend, and had no trouble keeping up with lots of XC geeks with 23
lb bikes. The fact of the matter is, you should ride for you, not for
a bunch of wimps on Usenet. That's what true freeriding is.
ClydesdaleMTB
> The fact of the matter is, you should ride for you, not for
> a bunch of wimps on Usenet. That's what true freeriding is.
Who let this guy in here!?!?!?!
Chris Phillipo
the crew to the trail head so you're "free" to take off on them.
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Stephen Baker
I think he's calling us all wimps, then qualifying that by saying that we are
ALL freeriders, because we ride for ourselves. I wish he'd make up his
mind.....
Unless the insinuation is that all freeriders are wimps?
Steve
Jeremy Pomeroy
>
> Also, Jon, despite what the magazines say, you'll never find a bike
> that can actually stand up to drops over 4 feet under 30 lbs. They
> also should have around double the travel you mentioned. My hardtail
> comes in around 35 pounds and I raced it in an 8 hour XC race this
> weekend, and had no trouble keeping up with lots of XC geeks with 23
> lb bikes. The fact of the matter is, you should ride for you, not for
> a bunch of wimps on Usenet. That's what true freeriding is.
I'd bet that you can build the Surly Instigator up at less than 30lbs,
especially if you are good enough to jump with a rigid fork.
--
Jeremy Pomeroy
Exercise Psychology
Dept. of Exercise Science
Arizona State University
"mens sana in corpore sono"
Pete Jones
<Clydes...@netscape.net> burbled:
>> The fact of the matter is, you should ride for you, not for
>> a bunch of wimps on Usenet. That's what true freeriding is.
>
>Who let this guy in here!?!?!?!
Who made you moderator?
Jeff made his point of view well enough, without resorting to inane
flames on anyone else. I don't share his viewpoint, but it's a broad
church. It's amusing watching some of the lameasses here getting
sanctimonious when they think they've got group consensus on their
side.
You have to respect someone crazy enough to do this kind of stuff:
http://www.bangedup.com/Current/moutainman.mov
ClydesdaleMTB
> Jeff made his point of view well enough, without resorting to inane
> flames on anyone else.
That is precisely my point!
I guess the humor was too subtle.... I'll be more direct next time.
Tom T
"Pete Jones" <petea...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Uummm...No you don't.
Tom T
>
> Pete
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Jon Bond
I respect him only because I'm afraid he'd snap and beat me up... I'm sure
that qualifies for legally insane, and even if I did nail him a buncha times
I expect he really doesn't feel pain too much (anymore)...
Jon "Commander" Bond
G.T.
>
> "ZSO" <zs...@home.com> wrote in message news:<O2u27.14013$EW.5...@news1.rdc1.tx.home.com>...
> > Duh! I must be a newbie!!!
>
> Freeriding is really just a term most industry types use to describe
> everything from big drops to sick steeps, man made stunts and other
> things. People like GT, who obviously don't get it or can't do it,
> like to critisize it.
>
> Freeriding is about riding with your friends, pushing your own
> boundaries of fitness, fear
Wow, sounds like mtn biking to me and is what I've been doing for 15
years.
> and sometimes equipment.
But why that needs to entail jumping off of the biggest rock to be found
to try and break my bike is beyond me.
Shaun Bell
"G.T." <eth...@pacificnet.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff wrote:
> >
> > "ZSO" <zs...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > > Duh! I must be a newbie!!!
> >
> > Freeriding is really just a term most industry types use to describe
> > everything from big drops to sick steeps, man made stunts and other
> > things. People like GT, who obviously don't get it or can't do it,
> > like to critisize it.
> >
> > Freeriding is about riding with your friends, pushing your own
> > boundaries of fitness, fear
>
> Wow, sounds like mtn biking to me and is what I've been doing for 15
> years.
>
> > and sometimes equipment.
>
> But why that needs to entail jumping off of the biggest rock to be found
> to try and break my bike is beyond me.
Rocks, chutes, logs, ramps, drops, suspension bridges and plain old trails
makes up what I call mountain biking. Freeriding is what XC guys call the
stuff they can't ride, LOL!
Shaun Bell
Chris Phillipo
> > But why that needs to entail jumping off of the biggest rock to be found
> > to try and break my bike is beyond me.
>
> Rocks, chutes, logs, ramps, drops, suspension bridges and plain old trails
> makes up what I call mountain biking.
Funny, I call that snow boarding :)
Do the dew!
Shaun Bell
"Chris Phillipo" <cphi...@ramsays-online.com> wrote in message
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>
> Funny, I call that snow boarding :)
>
> Do the dew!
Don't even get into the snowboarding thing! I'm still bitter about that.
Season pass, I think not.
Shaun "got no snow this year" Bell
Chris Phillipo
>
> Don't even get into the snowboarding thing! I'm still bitter about that.
> Season pass, I think not.
>
> Shaun "got no snow this year" Bell
Well there's always "Ram head butting".
Baaaaa!
freightGOD
Chris Phillipo <cphi...@ramsays-online.com> wrote in message
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> > >
JoellesHusband
> > >
> > > to try and break my bike is beyond me.
> >
> > Rocks, chutes, logs, ramps, drops, suspension bridges and plain old trails
> > makes up what I call mountain biking.
>
> Funny, I call that snow boarding :)
>
> Do the dew!
Around here it's known as logging. I hear Cannondale is developing a log skidder.