Yeti Kokopelli on the trail
Todd B
Well I have had the Kokopelli out a few time now. Its very nice. First of
all, I have to say that it looks great. I got the gray bike, and all the
pictures Ive seen show the bike with the red side wall Mythos tires. Mine
came with the black walled tires. Its very nice looking. Its all black,
gray, and silver.
The welds are every bit as good as the welds on my Gary Fisher. I got an
email from a guy at Yeti. The Kokopelli frames are not made at the Golden
Colorado factory. They are outsourced to another frame builder in Colorado,
and made to Yeti's specs. Thats how they can keep the price reasonable. I am
impressed with the frame. It is powdercoated (not painted) like all Yetis.
I did a number of upgrades. I got XT shifters, XT front der, XT cassette, XT
hubs, Mavis 317 rims, Avid SD7 levers and Avid mechanical disk brakes. So my
bike is not exactly a stock Kokopelli. I was impressed with how it handled.
It has very little bobbing. When I look down, I can see a little movement in
the shock as I am riding, but only a slight motion. It absorbed the big hits
nicley. I am going to play around with the air pressure a bit once I get a
pump. I hit a few bumps that worked the whole pump travel, and they were not
that big of hits, so I might be a little low on pressure. It actually seems
to pedel more effecently then my old hardtail. I think its partly due to the
cranks, The Truvativ cranks are nice and stiff. Much more solid then my LX
cranks. The LX cranks felt kind of flexy.
It handled my riding style and the trail I was on very well. Its a 17 mile
long rolling singletrack, with some rocky decents and climbs trown in just
for fun. I went faster then I ever have before. (partly due to the fact that
I was on my new bike and the adreniline was flowing) It was VERY stable and
comfortable at higher speeds. The tires were OK but not what Im really used
to. Just a personal prefrence, but I will switch out to Panaracer Fire XC's
when these wear out.
The Black Comp fork is OK too. It is nothing to write home about, but it
does the job just fine. Its alot better then the three year old SX I have
been riding on. I ran it at the 100 mm setting for the whole ride.
I love the bike. I am sure the stock Kokopelli that Supergo has would be
fine too. Before you order one, email all the dealers that are on the dealer
locater section of www.yeticycles.com. If any dealers still have them in
stock, they might cut you a deal just to out bid Supergo. Supergo screwed
them by buying out ALL the remaining Kokopellis from Yeti. They might even
have a Kokopelli AS disk that they need to unload. It seems like most small
shops hate those guys. I found mine by luck on the for sale section of
MTBR.com. The shop put it on the site for a quick sale. They wanted to
unload it before Supergo put theirs on sale.
One last thing. Be sure to double check on the sizing. I think they run a
little bigger then what I am used to. Im 5-8 and always ride a Medium sized
bike. The Yeti site sizing chart would have put me on a small bike. 5-9 is
when they recomend a med. I got the med bike and I am very happy, but if I
was any shorter I would need the small. 5-8 is right on the line. Its a
prefrence thing. I was lucky enough to ride a small and a med over ther
summer when I was on vacation. Both bikes fit OK but the medium was a little
more comfortable. Its has a little longer cockpit.
Thumbs up on the Kokopelli.
John Morgan
> stock, they might cut you a deal just to out bid Supergo. Supergo screwed
> them by buying out ALL the remaining Kokopellis from Yeti. They might even
> unload it before Supergo put theirs on sale.
You make it sound like we're hurting the industry by offering low prices on
the bikes that are in demand. We're on the same side remember? Last time I
checked, low prices were a good thing...
-John Morgan
Glenn Dowdy
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might express some dissatisfaction with a larger competitor buying the
entire available stock of a desireable product and offering at lower than
normal prices. It's good for you and for the consumer, but the other dealers
could lose out.
Glenn D.
G.T.
Monopolies aren't. It will never happen because I don't think he is
interested but if Alan started moving outside of the region and continued
to undercut everyone on price he'll eventually drive many out of business,
reducing choice and most likely resulting in higher prices in the long run.
Plus, Yeti aren't doing themselves a favor when they sell all their
closeouts to one person. If the other shops get pissed enough they'll stop
carrying the line.
Plus, I don't know if these are mail orderable but if they aren't that
means the only people that can buy these killer deals are those of us out
in the west.
Greg
--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late,
the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons
John Morgan
> might express some dissatisfaction with a larger competitor buying the
> entire available stock of a desireable product and offering at lower than
> normal prices. It's good for you and for the consumer, but the other
dealers
> could lose out.
>
> Glenn D.
Admittedly, the other dealers around here are pissed at Supergo. I'm a
consumer, though... and I think most of us in this NG are not shop owners...
so why take sides with them? The smaller shops need to offer me something
Supergo can't, if they plan on charging me $300 more for a Kokopelli.
-John Morgan
G.T.
>>Right, but even you would have to admit that other, smaller Yeti dealers
>>might express some dissatisfaction with a larger competitor buying the
>>entire available stock of a desireable product and offering at lower than
>>normal prices. It's good for you and for the consumer, but the other
>
> dealers
>
>>could lose out.
>>
>>Glenn D.
>
>
> Admittedly, the other dealers around here are pissed at Supergo. I'm a
> consumer, though... and I think most of us in this NG are not shop owners...
> so why take sides with them? The smaller shops need to offer me something
> Supergo can't,
Soul? The local Supergos remind me of Costco.
John Morgan
> > consumer, though... and I think most of us in this NG are not shop
owners...
> > so why take sides with them? The smaller shops need to offer me
something
> > Supergo can't,
>
> Soul? The local Supergos remind me of Costco.
>
> Greg
That is a fair point...but how often do you reminisce about where you bought
your bike? I mean really, isn't the soul of the sport found in the bliss of
riding? ...or does it come only as a package deal?
-John Morgan
doug
> Plus, I don't know if these are mail orderable but if they aren't that
> means the only people that can buy these killer deals are those of us out
> in the west.
>
> Greg
buy online yeti's here:
http://www.supergo.com/itemdisplay.asp?compflag=0&parentid=20543&company=Yet
i&secid=7559&subid=7
G.T.
Yes, and after a few years of neglecting it I enjoy supporting the shop
that has supported me off and on for 15 years, the shop that floated plenty
of freebies to me when I was poor and racing, the shop that is always
genuinely happy to see me, the shop that has waaaaaaay more bike porno per
square foot than any budget bike warehouse.
And actually I do reminisce about the places with character where I've
bought bikes. One was the Bicycle Shack. Their location when I bought my
first mtn bike was truly a shack. Out of business now not because of the
predatory practices of other shops but because the uptight people of Studio
City didn't like the owner's un-PCness. The most memorable incident I
remember there was when one of the actors from Cheers came in with one of
those blow up rings you put on your toilet and asked if someone could
inflate it (it had a shrader valve).
Todd B
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Kokopellis. That drove the price of mine down to the point that I could buy
it with a bunch of upgrades. The shop I bought it at was not real happy with
Supergo, and I can understand why, but they still made a sale.
I wish Supergo would offer better service however. Everyone who Ive talked
to feels the same way about Supergo...."Great prices, Poor service" . They
will not work with costomers when it comes to upgrading parts. You basically
have to buy the parts at retail, pay to have then installed, and keep the
parts that came off as extra parts that you didnt really want to begin with.
Thats poor costomer service.
The Supergo stores are not much better. Ive been to the one in Chandler AZ.
the prices are GREAT, but I feel like I am in the "Bike Costco" They will
sell you stuff at a good price but once you leave the store, their
relationship with you ends.
JD
> interested but if Alan started moving outside of the region and continued
> to undercut everyone on price he'll eventually drive many out of business,
> reducing choice and most likely resulting in higher prices in the long run.
Simple economics.
> Plus, Yeti aren't doing themselves a favor when they sell all their
> closeouts to one person. If the other shops get pissed enough they'll stop
> carrying the line.
Which they should.
> Plus, I don't know if these are mail orderable but if they aren't that
> means the only people that can buy these killer deals are those of us out
> in the west.
Almost anything is mail orderable.
My take on wholesalers like stuporglo is that they are the wal mart of
the bike world. They move in and the small business owner gets
porked.
JD
Todd B
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