Dragon Precision Machining - Engines??
James "Soupy" Thomas
Springs CO.??
" The Dragon Man" is supposed to have 35 years of experience in engine,
transmission and machine shop repairs and offers rebuild your own engine
specials and high performance mods and engines, any body know this company
or their work? Good, bad, ugly?? Any info or comments would be much
appreciated.
What was that your drinking, I'll get you another one while I'm at the bar?
Soupy
Phil Boutros
<cyc...@gtepacifica.net> wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with Dragon Precision Machining out of Colo.
> Springs CO.??
Well, I've never dealt with them personally, but I have seen
some of the "Dragon Man"'s "training tapes"...I was not impressed, to
say the least.
> " The Dragon Man" is supposed to have 35 years of experience in engine,
> transmission and machine shop repairs and offers rebuild your own engine
> specials and high performance mods and engines, any body know this company
> or their work? Good, bad, ugly?? Any info or comments would be much
> appreciated.
I didn't write this, but it is interesting:
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/thesqueakywheel/complaints/complaint240.cfm
We also had an interesting thread on the subject in r.m.h. back in
March. Read:
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=slrn9bt6aa.1b6.philb%40wolf14.nols.com
(all on one line...)
Phil
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Preacher
I don't have any first hand experience with The Dragon, but I know about 10
people that do. All bad, REAL BAD.
My sis lives in the Springs and his local reputation is *really* bad too.
She's not into bikes (she is a big gun nut, and Dragon is a FFL dealer) and
she's heard of his bad rep.
I personally, will *not* do business with him/his business. And from what I
know he is affiliated (and I still won't use him).
Preacher
Roger Mauck
Phil Boutros wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:14:49 +1000, James "Soupy" Thomas
> <cyc...@gtepacifica.net> wrote:
> > Has anyone had experience with Dragon Precision Machining out of Colo.
> > Springs CO.??
>
> Well, I've never dealt with them personally, but I have seen
> some of the "Dragon Man"'s "training tapes"...I was not impressed, to
> say the least.
>
> > " The Dragon Man" is supposed to have 35 years of experience in engine,
> > transmission and machine shop repairs and offers rebuild your own engine
> > specials and high performance mods and engines, any body know this company
> > or their work? Good, bad, ugly?? Any info or comments would be much
> > appreciated.
>
> I didn't write this, but it is interesting:
>
> http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/thesqueakywheel/complaints/complaint240.cfm
>
>
Don't know the Dragonman. I have had several e-mail exchanges with W. Hill
though. He posted his complaint to a message board a while back. It just seemed
impossible for the things he wrote to be true. I wrote him an e-mail and told him
I thought he was full of shit (me being the tactful prick I am). He wrote me back
and swore what he had written was true. So I (being the nosey bastard I am) called
the Dragonman himself. I talked to the man himself (I think his name is Mel). His
response to my query was "fuck him". He said that guy was a liar and he didn't
care what he said. His whole attitude made me think right then that the story from
Mr. Hill must have been the truth (even if it may have been a little embellished).
Dragonman had a real bad attitude for a businessman. It only took one conversation
for me. I'd never get him to do anything for me.
Roger
MC CELT
Back in the late 80's I sent Dragonman the heads off of my 82' shovel for
flowing/porting/polishing. Prior to sending them I had new guides and seats
installed, with the new seats cut and already lapped in. I called them first to
tell them that and they said "just make sure ya include a note telling us what
to do and what not to do." Cool. Did it. Off the heads went to Colorado.
Oooooh boy, what a mistake. First off, the COD charge comes back for more than
I was quoted. Hmmm, I innocently wondered "how's that?". I open the box and see
the heads now have bronze guides!!! WTF!? The seats are also cut, and cut BAD.
No lapping either. The "flow chart" he included looked way weird.
I called Mel up to ask him WTF. I was polite, figuring he'd make good for the
screwup. He just gave me the runaround "I thought you wanted the unlead
conversion." Telling him the note said "NO" did no good. He told me to hang on
a second and just passed the phone onto some chick. Being an obstinate mofo I
called a couple more times, again being polite, and he always just handed the
phone off to the girl-and she sounded embarrassed. ARGHHHH.
Had my mechanic recut the seats, and relapped the valves and seats in. Put the
heads on. The front head ran WAY richer compared to the rear one. The bike ran,
but worse than then with stock heads. Of course, the bronze guides quickly wore
out, too.
I wound up having to send the heads to a well known, famous, headman in NC to
unfuck them. More money. BTW, the headman in NC said Dragonman's flowchart was
something like he had never seen before.
Does this and the other stories like it make you want to trust your motor to-?
The Celt
I\I I I/I
A motorcycle, guns, a wee dram or two, and good Celtic music make for a damn
fine day.
'82 FLHS (now with hardbags and fairing)
'93 FLHTC (Woods carb, SE exhaust, EV27 cam, SE ign moduale, SE plug wires,
and, uh, that's it)
James "Soupy" Thomas
I have had so many bad responses on this I have to believe that at least
some if not all "not that doubt any one but their are those that would flame
for other reasons" are true and wish that these guys would straighten up and
do business right or close their doors, it makes honest independent shops
look bad!
Soupy
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