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Victor

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Hi, just got back from my local Ducati dealer and since I did not have a
chance to test ride these bikes I'll ask you guys. Is the 748 terribly
uncomfortable on longer street treks? I'll spend more time on the street
than the track.

The dealer suggests the 900SS's comfort and forgiving chassis worth a
serious look.

What do you think?

Victor


Trevor Best

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Nov 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/20/99
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My 900SS was terribly uncomfortable compared to the Yam FZ600 I had before
it, but there was a 5 year gap so memories may play tricks, perhaps I'd
gotten softened up from 5 years being couped up in a fug box, I seriously
considered helibars to lighen the load on my wrists but never did, I did get
used to it in the end after a few months. Once I overtook an outside lane
hogger in a dual carraigeway, who prompt decided he now should move to the
inside lane, all I remember is a lot of ducking and diving and piling on of
the twin brembos and in 13 years of riding experience I should have had my
number up at that point, you're dealer is right, the chassis is forgiving.

I can't say much about the 748, their definately faster and better looking
but I also love the look of my SS and it's fast enough for I use it for
(145MPH on the speedo, prone position)

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Mattrazzo

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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In article <816pb7$10e4$1...@quince.news.easynet.net>,

"Trevor Best" <tre...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> My 900SS was terribly uncomfortable compared to the Yam FZ600 I had
before
> it, but there was a 5 year gap so memories may play tricks, perhaps
I'd
> gotten softened up from 5 years being couped up in a fug box

I've got '99 900SS - after the redesign. I haven't ever ridden the
previous generation, so my opinion should be taken with a grain of
salt. I did find that my wrists ached when I first rode it, but like
Trevor, I found a good position that remedied that. I've read in
magazine's that the new SS is supposed to be a little more comfortable
than the old, but I don't remember in what way (suspension, riding
position, etc.)

Even if you can't take them for a ride, I would at least sit on the
bikes. Ask the dealer to put you on a rear stand so you can get your
feet up and get a feel for the bike. True, wrist pain only arises
after a period of riding, but you should be able to get a feel for
whether the bike meets your comfort standards. You'll also have to
remember that you'll be artificially leaning forward due to the stand...

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Dan Mattrazzo
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'99 Ducati 900SS, '95 Saab 900S
'99 Land Rover Disco, '67 Land Rover 109 IIA


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YellowDuc@speed

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Nov 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/27/99
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I HAVE THE 99 SS900 AS WELL AND I LOVE IT. i SOLD A 98 VFR 800 AND
HAVE NEVER LOOKED BACK. NOT QUITE AS FAST OR AS COMFY BUT WHAT A GREAT
MACHINE. HANDLES BETTER THAN MOST CAN RIDE, GREAT BRAKES AND IT FEELS
VERY VERY LIGHT. THE PEGS ARE LOWER THAN ON THE 748, THE VALVES ARE
EASIER AND CHEAPER TO ADJUST, NO RADIATOR OR COOLANT AND ITS LESS MONEY
TOO! YOU WILL NEVER MISS THOSE EXTRA PONIES.
AS YOU CAN TELL I LOVE THIS BIKE.

Guy Dickson

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Nov 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/27/99
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I bought a brand new 900SS in '94 after ZZR600 (severly bent by idiot in tin
box with 4 wheels) and a GPZ500. I thought it was amazing, went round
corners like a blinder, loads of low down torque, etc. etc. 34,000 miles on
the 900SS in three years. Even left a two-up ZZR1100 standing through a
right angled bend, he was crawling all over my back end into the corner, but
just couldn't keep up afterwards.....

Then I traded it in for a 748Biposto, thought it was great, then took it in
for a service, they leant me my old bike as a courtesy bike! I couldn't
believe it. It was like a barge compared to the 748, I hadn't really
understood the concept of "slow steering" until I went back to the 900SS.
Oh my god! I didn't think I was going to make round some of the corners! I
think I'm hooked on Ducati's/big twins, four cylinders seem very buzzy with
lots of maniacal action in the engine department.

I do concur with the statement that "the bike handles much much better than
I can ride it" but, sod it, each journey/trip is pure pleasure and I get
inifitesimally better each time, roll on spring/summer

Guy Dickson

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Larry

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Nov 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/27/99
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Guy Dickson wrote in message <81poe4$ok0$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...

So, would anyone recommend against trading in a Monster 900 to get a 748 or
996 for the streets? Can an old guy (49) make it 225 round trip, for a
nice lunch with friends without having to see a chiropractor? The Monster
seems to be poor handling above 80 mph, to me. Wobbling front end. What do
you guys/gals think?
>
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Larry

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Nov 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/28/99
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YellowDuc@speed ; .net <.net> wrote in message ...
>two words: Silver ST2

I don't want an ST2 or ST4. The question is, could I go from a Monster 900
to a 748 or 996, and successfully ride streets, freeway, and twisties for a
usual day of riding between 160 and 225 miles, generally with one stop for
lunch, and gas when needed. I'm 49, didn't have trouble with the position
on a CBR900RR, but did have trouble (wrists, neck) with a T595. I love the
looks and performance of the 748 and 996, but don't want to buy into a
torture rack.

Also, anyone know why my Monster is creating a front end wobble above 80
mph, or why Keihin 39 flatslides would go into fuel starvation "drop dead"
mode above 110 mph?

YellowDuc@speed

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Nov 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/29/99
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two words: Silver ST2

Scott Storkel

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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l...@will-contests.com (Larry) wrote in <384099dd$0$2...@nntp1.ba.best.com>:

>So, would anyone recommend against trading in a Monster 900 to get a 748
>or 996 for the streets? Can an old guy (49) make it 225 round trip,
>for a nice lunch with friends without having to see a chiropractor? The
>Monster seems to be poor handling above 80 mph, to me. Wobbling front
>end. What do you guys/gals think?

I thought the 748 was uncomfortable after sitting on it
for 3 minutes at a motorcycle show...Couldn't imagine
riding it for a couple of hours. But, that's just me.

I think this boils down to a question of how much
weight you're willing to support on your wrists and
how strong your lower back is. If you've had problems
with either in the past, you might want to be cautious
about picking up a 748/996.

BTW, what about the 900SS? I'd expect it to be more
stable at speed than the Monster, but with a riding
position that isn't quite as aggressive as the 748
or 996.

-- Scott
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Larry

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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YellowDuc@speed ; .net <.net> wrote in message ...
>sorry Larry. Just my two cents there about the ST2. Good Luck.

Perfectly good recommendation. Just not what I want. Thanks, anyway.

YellowDuc@speed

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Dec 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/1/99
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OldRoader

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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I have recently bought a 1998 748 SPS after a long line of Japanese 4's
(GSXR750s, CBR900RR, VFR400R) and was a little tentative about the
comfort factor. I do the usual weekend scatching, the occasional long
trip and about 3 track days every two months.

The 748 is noisy, is a pig in traffic, heats up, fries your thighs,
the padding on the seat is token, the riding position kills my wrists
and back, the clutch lever has turned my left forearm into something
Arnie would be proud of, the front rotors rattle like crazy, the
vibration can blur your vison, I need to short shift in residential
areas and near police and continually set off car alarms.

BUT it's Heaven on a stick (well two wheels anyway) All the things I've
mentioned only matter on the boring straight bits. Once the road starts
to twist and turn you realise why God rides a desmoquattro and not a
Harley!!! Be warned, while the 748/916/996 will turn a good rider into
a better rider, they are not the sort of bikes you can just throw a leg
over and "cruise" on. To get the most from them you have you have to
RIDE them, your inputs have to be deliberate, if you're riding style is
to hang off then hanging off will be rewarded. After 5000km I'm sold -
it's the best bike (looks, performance and handling) that my riding can
justify.

OldRoader
Sydney, Australia.


> So, would anyone recommend against trading in a Monster 900 to get a
748 or
> 996 for the streets? Can an old guy (49) make it 225 round trip, for
a
> nice lunch with friends without having to see a chiropractor? The
Monster
> seems to be poor handling above 80 mph, to me. Wobbling front end.
What do
> you guys/gals think?
> >
> >
>
>

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