Car, and Bike helmet?
Dllem
Like Drag racing / AutoX / Bike helmet?
Thanks!
Dllem
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Erik Astrup
>Are there any helmets that you can use with both your car AND bike?
>Like Drag racing / AutoX / Bike helmet?
Huh? You want to wear a helmet in your car?
Oddly enough, in most states it's illegal to wear a helmet in a car.
Disregarding the law for second.....uh, why couldn't you wear a bike
helmet in a car????
Odd question that needs more info.
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Philip D'Amato
event requirements. I think I decided that I'd take the shield off of my
Arai RX7RR3 (whatever) helmet and use that rather than buy a new Simpson or
something.
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"Erik Astrup" <eas...@mother.com> wrote in message
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SVrider
time the sanctioning bodies require a helmet.
Erik Astrup
wrote:
>The questions crossed my mind briefly when I was looking into autocross
>event requirements. I think I decided that I'd take the shield off of my
>Arai RX7RR3 (whatever) helmet and use that rather than buy a new Simpson or
>something.
Oh yeah, for autocross I can see it. Ok.
I did a couple of tiny events like that before and just wore my
motorcycle helmet. No problems.
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Joe Cargal
sanctioned stuff (as I was a while ago) such as ITS or Solo I, a SA
rated lid is necessary per rules. I bought a Simpson Voyager
Sidewinder for ITS and now I am wearing it when I ride a bike. The
big difference is the Nomex lining for the SA lid vs the non-flame
retardant liner for the M version, and the fact that the SA rated
version is designed to take many solid thunks of the coconut (like
during a crash in a racecar when the helmet would bounce off the roll
cage several times) while the M rated helmet is designed to take only
one solid hit.
A small difference I have found is the length of the strap that
carries the "D" rings on the helmet. On a M lid the strap is longer
to facilitate attachment to a helmet lock found on the bike. The SA
helmet has a much shorter D ring strap which makes locking the helmet
on the bike impossible (on my bike anyway).
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:13:40 GMT, eas...@mother.com (Erik Astrup)
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dattaway
> Oddly enough, in most states it's illegal to wear a helmet in a car.
Wow. I knew it would be strange, but illegal to wear a dominant piece of
safety equipment in automobiles on public roads? Lawmakers must really
like to argue about the most irrelevant issues when it comes to autos.
What can wearing a helmet in a car hurt? I never have seen someone wear a
helmet in a car on a public road, but there was one time whilst riding with
a friend when we passed this guy who was wearing a tinfoil hat. Tears were
streaming down my face while we were watching this guy drive exactly 55 mph
down the interstate. It was too funny.
Perhaps helmets and such are distractions to other drivers, but if they are
functional, why would they be illegal?
-- -=Duane
0x00F4 Starkville, Mississippi
http://www.attaway.org Why drive a car when you can ride a bike?
Denise Howard
> What can wearing a helmet in a car hurt?
Your field of vision. It's already obstructed by the supports around the
doors, windows, windshield and rear window. Depending upon the helmet, it
could block even more. Ever notice that you can see the entire face
opening in your peripheral vision? Sure, on a bike you know to turn your
head and look, but in a cage you're probably not so aware of your
surroundings, you don't turn your head as much.
Denise AFM #732
'95 CBR600 F3
'88 EX250 racebike
'00 SV650
'89 EX500 racebike
Erik Astrup
>> Oddly enough, in most states it's illegal to wear a helmet in a car.
>
>Wow. I knew it would be strange, but illegal to wear a dominant piece of
>safety equipment in automobiles on public roads? Lawmakers must really
>like to argue about the most irrelevant issues when it comes to autos.
Well now I should have checked the CVC before I said that. Dammit.
I was *positive* that California law forbade people from driving with a
helmet on. I can't find mention of that now in the code anywhere.
Crap, must have been an urban legend that got lodged in there. :(
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1995 Triumph Tiger
1999 Yamaha YZF-1000R1
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dattaway
Denise Howard <deni...@idiomdot.com> wrote:
> dattaway <datt...@attaway.org> wrote:
>> What can wearing a helmet in a car hurt?
> Your field of vision. It's already obstructed by the supports around the
> doors, windows, windshield and rear window. Depending upon the helmet, it
> could block even more. Ever notice that you can see the entire face
> opening in your peripheral vision? Sure, on a bike you know to turn your
> head and look, but in a cage you're probably not so aware of your
> surroundings, you don't turn your head as much.
Aha, now I realize the freedom of head movement with the shoulders a bike
affords when wearing a helmet. On a bike, I can quickly turn my head and
field of vision to what's important.
If I understand the wisdom of our wise lawmakers, I can guess:
in a cager, a helmet would indeed by a obstacle due to the nice, comfy back
support provided by the seat and door frames. In this case, the limited
peripheral vision would be unavoidable as my helmet is a massive obstacle
to be negotiated.
Erik Astrup
>> What can wearing a helmet in a car hurt?
>Your field of vision. It's already obstructed by the supports around the
>doors, windows, windshield and rear window. Depending upon the helmet, it
>could block even more. Ever notice that you can see the entire face
>opening in your peripheral vision? Sure, on a bike you know to turn your
>head and look, but in a cage you're probably not so aware of your
>surroundings, you don't turn your head as much.
The "I can't see next to me with a helmet on" is a classic anti helmet crowd
argument. But it holds no water with SNELL rated (and I believe DOT rated)
helmets.
SNELL requires 210 degrees of unobstructed peripheral vision side to side.
That's more than the human eyes can manage to see without a helmet on.
SNELL does take into account specific racing helmets that may offer more
restrictive views. But street helmets are not in this category.
Saddlebag
directly ahead, it DOES when glancing to either side. Fortunately, on a bike,
turning your head isn't a major problem (though it is a little tougher on a
crotch rocket).
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Jeff Goss
Erik Astrup wrote:
>
> On 21 Sep 2000 02:21:19 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:
>
> >> What can wearing a helmet in a car hurt?
<snip>
> The "I can't see next to me with a helmet on" is a classic anti helmet crowd
> argument. But it holds no water with SNELL rated (and I believe DOT rated)
> helmets.
>
> SNELL requires 210 degrees of unobstructed peripheral vision side to side.
> That's more than the human eyes can manage to see without a helmet on.
>
> SNELL does take into account specific racing helmets that may offer more
> restrictive views. But street helmets are not in this category.
The view from my helmet in my car depends on whether it's raining or
not. If it rains and I have to put the roof up, my field of vision is
canted to one side as I angle my head to squeeze into the space in a
Miata. Of course, I could follow the old British axiom "there's no such
thing as bad weather, just bad clothing" as apparently the Morgan crowd
refuses to drive anywhere with the roof on. Hard on the leather seats
though...
I use my old Snell M85 Shoei (permanently removed visor) for auto-x, but
the local groups here are prety lenient. If I went for Solo I, I would
probably need a helmet rated for car use, or they wouldn't let me
drive. I'd worry about a rollbar first in that setting though.
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> Erik Astrup - Team Iguana Racing (Ret)
> 1995 Triumph Tiger
> 1999 Yamaha YZF-1000R1
> "It's such a fine line between stupid and...And clever."
> http://www.mother.com/~eastrup/
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Jeff Goss
1992 ZX6
1999 Miata
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