2004 Triumph Daytona 600 vs 2004 Suzuki SV650S
RWC
about 15 years, and not much back then, and I'm about 35 now. My wife
and I are buying a Ninja EX250R to "get our feet wet" this week. I know
I'm going to be ready for something bigger pretty soon, and so I have
been doing a lot of shopping. Also, I'm 6'2" and about 275lbs.
My big "excuse" is gas prices and mileage. It would be a commuter bike.
So lap times and 1/4 mile times do not play into the choices. Things
like gas mileage and insurance prices will. And of course, fun, and
comfort.
I want a sportbike, but not a full on racer, more sport touring with
sport looks. I want low range torque for around town puttering and
commuting to work, not a high revving I4 rocket.
There are two bikes I like, the 2004 Triumph Daytona 600 (MSRP $7,999
USD) and the 2004 Suzuki SV650S (MSRP $6,299.00 USD). That sounds like
a big price spread, but Suzuki's best financing is 9.9% APR for 48 or 60
months. Triumph is offering Zero Down, 2.9% APR for 48 months or 3.9%
APR for 60 months. So the two are not as far apart in price as you
first impressions would lead you to believe (if financed).
So, I'm looking for opinions. Neither are a BMW or even Honda when it
comes to reliability. The Suzuki SV650S has a lot of good reviews. So
does the Triumph Daytona 600, but Luck Brackenbury really trashed the
Daytona 600 in May's issue of Performance Bikes, making it sound as if
it was wore out after 10k miles.
Comments? Opinions? Facts?
Simpledog
Supersport 600's (like the GSX-R) in performance. IMHO, an SV is to small
of a bike for you. The ZRX is about what you need.
Not something you'd be too afraid of, not something you'd outgrow, and not a
bike that you couldn't 2 up on and take a real huge peformance hit. Take a
motorcycle safety course, and take it easy, you'll be fine. Many of these
retro-90/80's UJM's don't have scary power. Stay away from the FZ-1,
Z1000's, etc. and you'll be fine. Another bike would be a Bandit 1200.
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RWC
> Look into a ZRX1200. It is about halfway between an SV650 and the new
> Supersport 600's (like the GSX-R) in performance. IMHO, an SV is to small
> of a bike for you. The ZRX is about what you need.
That's good advice. I did look at the Kawasaki ZRX1200. I like it, but
it's heavy and expensive. I like the new Honda 2004 Interceptor and
Interceptor ABS a tiny bit more, and they were also comfortable. But
also a little too expensive.
> Not something you'd be too afraid of, not something you'd outgrow, and not a
> bike that you couldn't 2 up on and take a real huge peformance hit. Take a
> motorcycle safety course, and take it easy, you'll be fine.
That's better advice, and I'm one step ahead of you. My wife and I are
already signed up for 4th of July weekend. (actually, 2nd evening
classroom, 3rd and 4th on the bikes, their bikes)
One reason I was looking at the 600's was, after my wife outgrows the
EX250R, I'd like to let it be her "hand-me-down" if I go bigger yet.
And, one of the reasons I was looking at lower cost was because I would
like to have some money to go to some more classes after basic rider
training. Like the intermediate, and maybe California Superbike School
at Firebird Raceway in Phoenix, AZ this fall. Not to race, or learn to
race, but to really get to know how to ride (and have a blast on the
track for a weekend).
Finally, this fall we might just get a pair of cheaper used dirt bikes
to play in the desert around our house this fall. So, spending $10k on
a bike right now seems to be a bit risky, locking me into "this is the
only one I will be able to get for a long time."
The 2004 Suzuki SV650S is an amazing price. And the 2004 Triumph
Daytona 600 has awesome financing.
Grumbler
Look into the cost of insurance first as the price
difference btw a 600/650cc and 1200cc could
be substantial.
-=G
Phil Scott
"Simpledog" <SPAMLESS...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Look into a ZRX1200. It is about halfway between an SV650
and the new
> Supersport 600's (like the GSX-R) in performance. IMHO, an
SV is to small
> of a bike for you. The ZRX is about what you need.
Good idea.
RWC
> Simpledog wrote:
>
>> Look into a ZRX1200. It is about halfway between an SV650 and the new
>> Supersport 600's (like the GSX-R) in performance. IMHO, an SV is to
>> small of a bike for you. The ZRX is about what you need.
>
> That's good advice. I did look at the Kawasaki ZRX1200. I like it,
Whops, you said ZRX1200, I read ZZR1200! Shame on me. Not sure about
the ZRX1200, it reminds me of the 80's GPz, and (I'm really shallow, Uh,
I mean) I'd really like something a bit more modern looking.
Phil Scott
the dirt bikes are a real good idea... you could go to DP
bikes now, for you, say a honda 650 single...and that would be
good commuting under 70 mph... and great around town, and not
bad in the dirt...you will learn more in a month in the dirt,
than 30 years on pavement.
>
> The 2004 Suzuki SV650S is an amazing price. And the 2004
Triumph
> Daytona 600 has awesome financing.
You could get a used sv650 for 3k or so that should be as
reliable as new one if the mileage is under 10,000 miles...a
bike like that will look virtually new too.
Phil Scott
RWC
> "RWC" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
>> Finally, this fall we might just get a pair
>> of cheaper used dirt bikes to play in the
>> desert around our house this fall. So,
>> spending $10k on a bike right now seems to
>> be a bit risky, locking me into "this is
>> the only one I will be able to get for a long time."
>
> the dirt bikes are a real good idea... you could go to DP
> bikes now, for you, say a honda 650 single...and that would be
> good commuting under 70 mph... and great around town, and not
> bad in the dirt...you will learn more in a month in the dirt,
> than 30 years on pavement.
I guess at this point, I should say... My commute to work is about 20
miles of low traffic 75mph speed limit freeway. :-) Or, a XR600/XR650
with bajadesigns dual sport kit would have been in my garage already.
> You could get a used sv650 for 3k or so that should be as
> reliable as new one if the mileage is under 10,000 miles...a
> bike like that will look virtually new too.
I looked at that too. Financing a used bike is tough. And I hear the
2003 SV650S had a lot of good changes, and the 2004 had even more.
Phil Scott
Considering that you will not be keeping the bike long I'd go
with used... those changes you mention wont be noticed by the
average rider btw. But the 3k less price, and less sales tax
etc will be. You are a big guy... the SV might be a little
small for you.
20 miles commute at 75 is well within the scope of the honda
singles you were looking at...guys do it every day around
here. I think thats a real good choice for you since you
want to ride dirt too.
Phil Scott
Phil Scott
Some of us dont think the vacuum cleaner looking bikes are
that hot at all...I like the zrx1200 a lot...a very fine
machine... genuine. great details. hauls ass... and built
for a good sized man. The retro look is deliberate.
Id go for that, then get 400cc dirt bike later... or Id get
the 650 honda DP bike now...if you want faster get a used
motarded KTM for 3 or 4k .. see the last post in the
Thumper thread a few days back. His 600 single is good for
110 mph...so he could cruize it all day at 80...and the
handling is light years better than even a SV650 which is a
lot better than the big kawasaki will be.
Phil Scott
Phil Scott
_Bob Nixon_
SV's too small & probably the Daytona 600 as well. SV1000 or the
larger Triumph Daytona 955 or Sprint or Honda VFR.
IMO, skip the Kawasaki's if for no other reason than them having short
valve check/adjustment intervals and funky carburetors. If you buy a
new bike, get one with Fuel injection; one of the above.
Bob Nixon
Phoenix AZ
01 Sprint ST "RED" 43K miles
03 Suzuki GSXR1000 "SILVER"
Saddlebag
>Stay away from the FZ-1,
>Z1000's, etc
Why?
Saddlebag
>That's good advice. I did look at the Kawasaki ZRX1200. I like it, but
>it's heavy and expensive.
Unless your trying to push it into a corner like a GP250 you'll not notice the
weight. If you wait another month you should be able to walk out with a ZRX for
under $7k.
Chris Cavin
> My big "excuse" is gas prices and mileage. It would be a commuter bike.
> So lap times and 1/4 mile times do not play into the choices. Things
> like gas mileage and insurance prices will. And of course, fun, and
> comfort.
If you're looking at just a commuter bike to save money on gasoline, why are
you looking for something new? All you'd be doing is spending $6,000 up
front to save $25 a week. It'll take you a LOOOOONG time pay for a new bike
at that rate. I just bought a 1981 CB650 for the wife for $1,000. It's
intended to be her learner bike but it'll probably end up being our only bike
by this time next year. It'll get 40+ mpg for a LOT less cost than a new
SV650.
-Chris-
Simpledog
http://home.mminternet.com/~simpledog/SV1000.JPG, and it rides nicely. Not
much for 2 up I'm afraid.
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M. J. Freeman
> My big "excuse" is gas prices and mileage. It would be a commuter
> bike. So lap times and 1/4 mile times do not play into the
> choices. Things like gas mileage and insurance prices will. And
> of course, fun, and comfort.
You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
> There are two bikes I like, the 2004 Triumph Daytona 600 (MSRP
> $7,999 USD) and the 2004 Suzuki SV650S (MSRP $6,299.00 USD). That
> sounds like a big price spread, but Suzuki's best financing is
> 9.9% APR for 48 or 60 months. Triumph is offering Zero Down, 2.9%
> APR for 48 months or 3.9% APR for 60 months. So the two are not
> as far apart in price as you first impressions would lead you to
> believe (if financed).
Join a credit union and buy a used bike. A credit union will
*always* give you a better deal than dealer financing, and have no
problem with financing used bikes.
You can also buy used through a dealer to simplify the paperwork
process, and still get most of the used-bike savings.
> So, I'm looking for opinions.
Start looking at used bikes. Don't fall into the "but they improved
it this year!" trap. Most such improvements are minor, and sometimes
they're actually steps backward. You're better off saving $2000 on
the purchase price and then spending that money on accessories (e.g.
luggage) and replacement parts (e.g. suspension components) to
customize the bike to fit your needs better.
--
Michael J. Freeman Cincinnati, OH
'85 VF700S (The Leper) mike_f...@SPMBLOKmac.com
"Insanity runs in the family; it practically gallops"
Ellison, H. Thompson, D. Parker, Prince, SRV, Led Zep
Simpledog
too much, especially I4's.
just my opinion
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Andre
engine mods, the bikes are basically the same. Oh ya, the looks changed as
well. IF you have your heart on a new bike, look for a TT600 on the floor.
There may be some left at a good price.
But as mentioned earlier, do shop for insurance as well. What about the Kat
750? Cheap on insurance? Should fit your size?
--
Andre
2003 TT600
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Desmoface
experience with the Triumph was not a good one..But, as those on the list will
attest, a lot has changed with Triumph since then.
I currently have an ex250 and an sv650. I have to tell you, I've had a lot of
different bikes, everything from exotic Italian thoroughbreads to inexpensive
japanese machines...My little 2000 sv 650 is really probably the best bike for
the money I've ever owned, although my honda 929 was also a great value.
Nonetheless...My vote would go for the sv650. Its not going to have the topend
of the trumpet but its got that ever-satisfying vtwin grunt, which really makes
up for any shortcomings up the rev range...Also, cycle world anounced the sv650
as the best middleweight in all of motorcycling, for the second year in a row.
Another bike which I really like, a lot, is Honda's new 599. This bike is
known as the Hornet in Europe, where it is the best selling bike, period. See
www.hondahornet.co.uk/ for a good group dedicated to this awsome machine..
So, my vote would be to nix the trumpet off of your list and replace it with
the Honda 599...My short list would consist of the honda and the sv650..the
only downside of the honda is price...it's considerably more expensive than the
sv..that little sv is tough to beat...Good luck..
Steve
00 sv6fity
01 ex2fity (for sale)
Inlaw Biker
That is good advice. Instead of a sporty get a standard, or a standard that
looks like a sport bike. Getting into a sporty for commuting isn't such a
great idea. They're uncomfortable and in the case of the Daytona (inline
4), no power until you rev the piss out of it. It's a full-on track bike.
The SV's probably a better choice, especially the non-S model. I understand
it's a lot more comfortable. Even as a heavy guy it should be enough bike.
Besides the 599 I would target the Yamaha 600R (Not the R6). It has more
than enough sport power but it's made for the street. It has absurd valve
adjustment intervals, something like 26 million miles. OK 26,000, but it's
incredible. Were I commuting it would be high on my list alongside the 599
and SV. Anyway ride that Ninja for a season before you buy, your skill will
increase exponentially.
--
Greg Sumner
Seattle WA
'03 CBR 600RR
Vic Sagerquist
>You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
>looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
What kind of "fun" cage gets that kind of mileage?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
______________
It's my funeral and I'll fry if I want to...
Desmoface
Yeah, forgot about that one...nice machine..
M. J. Freeman
alt.motorcycle.sportbike:
> One day in rec.motorcycles, Also Sprach M. J. Freeman:
>
>>You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
>>looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
>
> What kind of "fun" cage gets that kind of mileage?
It ain't what you drive, it's how you drive it.
Vic Sagerquist
>add...@withheld.com (Vic Sagerquist) posted in
>alt.motorcycle.sportbike:
>
>> One day in rec.motorcycles, Also Sprach M. J. Freeman:
>>
>>>You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
>>>looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
>>
>> What kind of "fun" cage gets that kind of mileage?
>
>It ain't what you drive, it's how you drive it.
>
>
Maybe. I had a Honda Civic SI hatchback in the early 90s. It was fun, but
at the expense of gas mileage. Fun driving (legally risky due to the red
color) got me 25 MPG. To get 39 one had to drive sleepily down the freeway
at 55 in high gear.
I had an '89 Hyundai Excel before that, which was impossible to have fun
driving no matter how you drove it. I can't imagine a Geo Metro (3
cylinder!) being any better.
On the other hand, the first time I leaned my V-Star into a corner I was
hooked...
Jamin Kortegard
> add...@withheld.com (Vic Sagerquist) posted in
> alt.motorcycle.sportbike:
>
>> One day in rec.motorcycles, Also Sprach M. J. Freeman:
>>
>>> You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
>>> looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
>>
>> What kind of "fun" cage gets that kind of mileage?
>
> It ain't what you drive, it's how you drive it.
>
It's both. Trust me.
--
Jamin Kortegard
2002 YZF-R1 / 2003 WRX
"Hokey 600s and trackday usability are no match
for a good literbike at your side, kid."
- Michael
Saddlebag
>Too fast for new riders. The hooligan bikes that pump out 120 HP are a bit
>too much, especially I4's.
The FZ1 is a peaky motor. My ZRX will stomp it (probably everywhere) but
certainly below 7 or 8k RPM. I've ridden a couple of FZ1s and got that
impression from both.
Anyway, the I4s are pussycats unless you wind them up, almost car like. Very
forgiving of sloppy throttle inputs or being in the wrong gear.
Saddlebag
>Then an SV1000s would be a good bet. I just bought one,
>http://home.mminternet.com/~simpledog/SV1000.JPG, and it rides nicely. Not
>much for 2 up I'm afraid.
NIce Simp, but that twin is a much less beginner friendly motor than an I4.
Saddlebag
>You do realize your "excuse" isn't a very good one? The bikes your
>looking at get 40 mpg, and any number of cars now get 35-40 mpg.
Not to mention the car will get 100k out of a set of tires and the bike might
get 6-8k if your lucky. And at $300 a pop installed, any gas savings is
trivial.
JD
whereas if I financed it through the dealer telling them to finance it
through Credit Union...it was only 6.6%. So thats what I did.
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JD
trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and about
260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on the
Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has been a
nice way of saving money. I don't know if I am following the diet exactly
as Atkins says, but basically just eat as many green non-carby veggies as I
can and a lot of cheese, meat, and of course eggs.
And on top of all that, a ton of compliments from friends to boot!
Are you and your wife going to be riding together on the same bike? A
V-Strom would probably be a decent bike to double on, I own one myself but
just ride single. I have the DL650, which has the same engine as the
SV650...a very solid engine.
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> I'm new bike shopping. Just for background, I haven't rode a bike in
> about 15 years, and not much back then, and I'm about 35 now. My wife
> and I are buying a Ninja EX250R to "get our feet wet" this week. I know
> I'm going to be ready for something bigger pretty soon, and so I have
> been doing a lot of shopping. Also, I'm 6'2" and about 275lbs.
>
> My big "excuse" is gas prices and mileage. It would be a commuter bike.
> So lap times and 1/4 mile times do not play into the choices. Things
> like gas mileage and insurance prices will. And of course, fun, and
> comfort.
>
> I want a sportbike, but not a full on racer, more sport touring with
> sport looks. I want low range torque for around town puttering and
> commuting to work, not a high revving I4 rocket.
>
> There are two bikes I like, the 2004 Triumph Daytona 600 (MSRP $7,999
> USD) and the 2004 Suzuki SV650S (MSRP $6,299.00 USD). That sounds like
> a big price spread, but Suzuki's best financing is 9.9% APR for 48 or 60
> months. Triumph is offering Zero Down, 2.9% APR for 48 months or 3.9%
> APR for 60 months. So the two are not as far apart in price as you
> first impressions would lead you to believe (if financed).
>
mike
yeah, but liability insurance for a year on a POS car can run at least $400.
my bike was $50. tires were about $100/each installed. fronts lasted 15k,
rear lasted 8k.
mike
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> I won't comment on the bikes but may I suggest the Atkins diet :) I am
not
> trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and about
> 260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on the
> Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has been
a
> nice way of saving money.
you obviously dont cook for yourself. i agree with ya on the atkins thing,
but a 5lb bag of pasta or 25lb bag of taters is only a couple bucks. about
the price of 1lb of mid-grade meat.
Saddlebag
>my bike was $50. tires were about $100/each installed. fronts lasted 15k,
>rear lasted 8k.
>
Not sport rubber.
Charles Soto
Try eating some broccoli. Geez you'd think you lived in Ireland about
100 years ago...
Charles
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Reassembler
> I asked the credit union what rate they'd give me, they could do 9.75%
> whereas if I financed it through the dealer telling them to finance it
> through Credit Union...it was only 6.6%. So thats what I did.
>
>
$9,000 at 6% last October. So in one sense I paid cash for my bike.
Reassembler
JD
couple glasses of water (ie cost around $0.50) for supper whereas before I
would have a box of kraft dinner and a few weiners and a couple glasses of
coke (probably $2). Or some sphaghetti with alfredo sauce...the pasta is
cheap but it's all the extras that add up. Then some snacks in the evening
like chocolate bar....I hardly snack at all anymore because Atkins is
appetite suppressing.
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wrestleantares
No, you just went a different route for financing. ;)
Though your advice certainly has some technical merit. Often CU's
rates for personal loans are cheaper than their rates for Motorcycle
loans. It also has the added benefit (well benefit if you can afford
the risk) of not requiring you to purchase insurance other than
liability since you are the title holder.
wrestleantares
<forsaleatro...@readthefirstpart.com> wrote:
>I do cook for myself... under Atkins I will have like 3-4 boiled eggs and a
>couple glasses of water (ie cost around $0.50) for supper
While I certainly don't "Live to Eat" a dinner like you describe is
too much "Eat to Live". ;)
>whereas before I
>would have a box of kraft dinner and a few weiners and a couple glasses of
>coke (probably $2). Or some sphaghetti with alfredo sauce...the pasta is
>cheap but it's all the extras that add up. Then some snacks in the evening
>like chocolate bar....I hardly snack at all anymore because Atkins is
>appetite suppressing.
Then again reading about your former meals, they were just as bad.
Simpledog
less experience, for sure.
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RWC
> I won't comment on the bikes but may I suggest the Atkins diet :) I am not
> trying to be rude, I was there myself...4 months ago I was 6' 1" and about
> 260 lbs. Today I am a mere 210 lbs and feeling great! Plus eating on the
> Atkins diet is cheaper than my previous pasta smorgasbords so it has been a
> nice way of saving money. I don't know if I am following the diet exactly
> as Atkins says, but basically just eat as many green non-carby veggies as I
> can and a lot of cheese, meat, and of course eggs.
Yes, I have tried it before. My personal opinion is that all of these
"one food type" diets only work because it so greatly limits what you
can eat, you eat less.
Eating a big breakfast actually works for me. I just am not hungry for
much other than small meals the rest of the day.
I spoke to my MD about diets, and he recommended a book called "The
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet." I don't recommend the book, the book
sucks, takes forever to read, and can be summed up a couple sentences.
To sum it up, "Eat only protein, except for 1 hour a day at dinner, and
then eat anything you want, but you can't eat carbs outside of that 1
hour period." The logic is, carbs are addictive, for example, you eat
one potato chip, and then you lightly snack on them for hours, because
they are soo addictive. It's suppose to work better than Atkins. But,
I refer to my previous point, these diets only work because it so
greatly limits what you can eat, you eat less.
But yes, diet is in the plans, more-so, a lifestyle change to be more
active. Part of that is getting a motorcycle! :-) And I put together
my weight bench last night.
But, cutting back to the Daytona vs. the SV650S... The EX250R that my
wife and I were going to share didn't show up by the deadline today, we
got our deposit back. My other thread, stuffing a big thumper into a
sportbike frame also has lead me nowhere. So.... I am still shopping.
Now, I'm starting to think about a XR650R with dualsport kit. At least
it's designed to handle being dropped. It will get me back and forth to
work, good learner bike, and I can play in the desert. Then, my wife
may get a Yamaha TT-R125LE and put a dual sport kit on (Baja Designs
makes one, but I posted in the off-road forum for help and can't find
DOT tires for it!).
After 3 weeks of shopping and waiting, I'm leaning heavily towards cheap
now, more later. XR650R is not available cheap used, unless I go back
to a 1987 or something. So, I have NO IDEA NOW. I feel like I have
went in circles a couple times, street, dirt, sport, touring, thumper,
twin, I-4, rinse and repeat. All that and I am still bikeless!
tjs
montlhy payment plus the insurance are a hell of lot more than the gas
saving! You would need to get 200mpg and be putting on a couple thousand
miles a month to justify the cost.
>
> If you're looking at just a commuter bike to save money on gasoline, why
are
> you looking for something new? All you'd be doing is spending $6,000 up
> front to save $25 a week. It'll take you a LOOOOONG time pay for a new
bike
> at that rate. I just bought a 1981 CB650 for the wife for $1,000. It's
> intended to be her learner bike but it'll probably end up being our only
bike
> by this time next year. It'll get 40+ mpg for a LOT less cost than a new
> SV650.
>
> -Chris-
tjs
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RWC
decided. Putter around in the dirt, don't worry so much about dropping
them, learn to ride. The search is over, new bikes are in my garage!
Photos of the bikes:
Rusty Myers
into getting those street legal. The little one won't be too good for much
distance, but the wr450 will be fine for commuting. That will give you some
options. I will take my DRZ out on the local roads and find areas where
they are putting in new subdivisions. When they clear the trees for the
roads, but before they get all the grading done it is a blast. Better than
trailering my bike to get to a real dirt riding area and I can do it in the
evenings after work.
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Rusty Myers
Austin, TX
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