1999 CBR900RR vs. 1999 YZF-R1
Peter
the Nevada desert and I really love it but I want to get something new.
So I'm down to two bikes, the 900RR and YZF-R1. According to the specs.
it seems that the R1 is a little lighter, little shorter, little faster,
little uglier :) the R1 seems to be a better bike on paper. The Yamaha
also has 20 Valves, I guess that's 5 valves per cylinder whereas the
Honda has 4 valves per cylinder. I'm not really sure about this valve
thing but I guess like anything else, more is better. Here in Vegas the
Yamaha is about $5 more than the Honda so cost doesn't really factor in.
Well so have any of you had a chance to ride both the 99 RR and R1? have
any of your friends? Any comments?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
Roque Torres
like it but to each his own)
Roq
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:37C1EBF8...@lvcm.com...
Snogfest Hosebeast
the most. You might find you like the ZX9R or Hayabusa....
I rode an R1 and just *had* to have one, but know I would have been
just as happy with any other large capacity sportsbike, even the BMW
R1100 sport looks kinda cool.
In article <37C1EBF8...@lvcm.com>,
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a new bike. I currently ride a 1993 CBR900RR out in
> the Nevada desert and I really love it but I want to get something
new.
> So I'm down to two bikes, the 900RR and YZF-R1. According to the
specs.
> it seems that the R1 is a little lighter, little shorter, little
faster,
> little uglier :) the R1 seems to be a better bike on paper. The Yamaha
> also has 20 Valves, I guess that's 5 valves per cylinder whereas the
> Honda has 4 valves per cylinder. I'm not really sure about this valve
> thing but I guess like anything else, more is better. Here in Vegas
the
> Yamaha is about $5 more than the Honda so cost doesn't really factor
in.
> Well so have any of you had a chance to ride both the 99 RR and R1?
have
> any of your friends? Any comments?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Peter
>
>
--
R1, TDM.
Fat Bastard
Kiwi.
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bug-eyed monster but now I think it's pretty cool.
Roque Torres <jdea...@home.com> wrote in message
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> The R1 is better by far, period! Take the R1 and deal with the ugliness (I
> like it but to each his own)
>
> Roq
>
> Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
> news:37C1EBF8...@lvcm.com...
Donnie Robertson
I chose the honda for perceived reliability. The R1 is a MUCH more powerful
machine.
Donnie
99 RR
Peter wrote in message <37C1EBF8...@lvcm.com>...
Reg Muckey
out performance and the RR being built more towards the street and comfort.Honda
has always built a quality comfortable good performing bike,the R1 is pretty
much a pure race bike.Just depends how nuts you are:)
Mark
Peter
any of you had or heard of any problems with RR or R1?
Peter
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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Erik Astrup
> I'm not really sure about this valve
>thing but I guess like anything else, more is better.
Ouch. Bit hard on that marketing hook didn't ya?
Yamaha sticks with 5 valves just like Honda sticks with a 16 inch
rim on the 900RR. Because they "have to". They've used both
for years and that's the way it's gonna be damn it.
The 5 valve motor adds nothing at all to street bike performance.
But it does add to the cost of valve adjustments!
--
--------------------------------------------------------
Erik Astrup - http://www.mother.com/~eastrup/
1995 Triumph Tiger - 1997 Triumph Speed Triple
Team Iguana Racing (Ret!)
"It's such a fine line between stupid and...And clever."
ICQ 45508125
------------------------------------------------------
Chris Mullins
>
> The 5 valve motor adds nothing at all to street bike
> performance. But it does add to the cost of valve
> adjustments!
>
I don't know about that - my R1 has a valve adjustment interval of 26000
miles. Unless I miss my guess, that's almost double what most of the 4 valve
per cylinder sport bikes. I don't know if this can be directly attributed to
the 5 Valve design, but as for cost per valve adjustment the huge interval
more than makes up for the cost of 4 additional valves that need to be
adjusted.
--
Chris Mullins
Donnie Robertson
Donnie
99 RR
Chris Mullins wrote in message ...
Zarniwoop
sure but is way too focused for the highways. The FireBlade beats it hands
down in engineering, comfort and finish.
Frats
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Roque Torres <jdea...@home.com> wrote in message
news:ubtw3.8687$YB3.1...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com...
> The R1 is better by far, period! Take the R1 and deal with the ugliness (I
> like it but to each his own)
>
> Roq
>
Erik Astrup
<cmul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Erik Astrup wrote:
>>
>> The 5 valve motor adds nothing at all to street bike
>> performance. But it does add to the cost of valve
>> adjustments!
>>
>
>I don't know about that - my R1 has a valve adjustment interval of 26000
>miles. Unless I miss my guess, that's almost double what most of the 4 valve
>per cylinder sport bikes. I don't know if this can be directly attributed to
>the 5 Valve design, but as for cost per valve adjustment the huge interval
>more than makes up for the cost of 4 additional valves that need to be
>adjusted.
I was not clear enough. I simply meant the time involved in
checking/adjusting them would be longer, and that there
was no real tangible benefit to a 5 valve head.
Erik Astrup
<z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
>I think that depends on your point of view. The R1 is a fine motorcycle for
>sure but is way too focused for the highways. The FireBlade beats it hands
>down in engineering, comfort and finish.
Hmmm....
o Engineering - In what ways does it beat it "hands down"???
o Comfort - Eh, that's a relative thing. Each rider is different. Some
find GSXR 750s comfy, I can't sit on one in a showroom.
o Finish - Up until the R1 I would agree. But I think the R1 is
beautifully detailed.
This from a former 900RR owner.
An ORIGINAL one (93) mind you. :P
Mike
"Zarniwoop" <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
> I think that depends on your point of view. The R1 is a fine
motorcycle for
> sure but is way too focused for the highways. The FireBlade beats it
hands
> down in engineering, comfort and finish.
>
>
> Z
I agree,
Aside from the comfort, fit & finish & engineering.
You have to realize that only a few will actually exploit the power
diff. You know if your one of them. If not then go with what you like
best. Overall !
Have fun,
Mike
GSX-R750
friendly...kinda awkward....Go for the R1!!!
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:48:56 -0700, Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote:
>I'm looking to buy a new bike. I currently ride a 1993 CBR900RR out in
>the Nevada desert and I really love it but I want to get something new.
>So I'm down to two bikes, the 900RR and YZF-R1. According to the specs.
>it seems that the R1 is a little lighter, little shorter, little faster,
>little uglier :) the R1 seems to be a better bike on paper. The Yamaha
>also has 20 Valves, I guess that's 5 valves per cylinder whereas the
>Honda has 4 valves per cylinder. I'm not really sure about this valve
>thing but I guess like anything else, more is better. Here in Vegas the
>Yamaha is about $5 more than the Honda so cost doesn't really factor in.
>Well so have any of you had a chance to ride both the 99 RR and R1? have
>any of your friends? Any comments?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Peter
>
1989 GSXR750 (GIXXER)
Erik Astrup
> I agree,
> Aside from the comfort, fit & finish & engineering.
>You have to realize that only a few will actually exploit the power
>diff. You know if your one of them. If not then go with what you like
>best. Overall !
You realize that the power diff is huge between the two, and they are
two very different bikes to ride because of this. One doesn't have to
be Mick Doohan to enjoy huge gobs of power ya know.
Erik Astrup
wrote:
>Don't like the shift position on the RR, really not very user
>friendly...kinda awkward....Go for the R1!!!
Ya know, the shifter can be moved right?
Geoff Maxwell
>
> Don't like the shift position on the RR, really not very user
> friendly...kinda awkward....Go for the R1!!!
Huh?
Thats one I've never heard
--
Geoff Maxwell
'96 Honda CBR900RR Fireblade
http://www.cgocable.net/~gmaxwell
Distribution Manager,
Twin Seasons Recreation Ltd.
http://www.tsrltd.com
JCB
Geoff Maxwell wrote in message <37C32923...@cgocable.net>...
What, did Honda start welding the damn shifters on? I just bet that too many
people were trying to adjust them, and the wrench slipped, and they skinned
their knuckles, and they threatened a lawsuit, and what choice did they
have. I can't believe it, and now it's going to cost them sales because the
R1 is much more comfortable to shift. How tragic.
John
Trevor Hedge
from Blade riders.
Ozman
Reg Muckey <r...@fast.net> wrote in message
news:37C2BAA2...@fast.net...
Both are awesome bikes no doubt,the R1 being built more for track days and
all
out performance and the RR being built more towards the street and
comfort.Honda
has always built a quality comfortable good performing bike,the R1 is pretty
much a pure race bike.Just depends how nuts you are:)
Mark
Donnie Robertson wrote:
> I have ridden both and like them both...
> I chose the honda for perceived reliability. The R1 is a MUCH more
powerful
> machine.
>
> Donnie
> 99 RR
>
> Peter wrote in message <37C1EBF8...@lvcm.com>...
Zarniwoop
beat. The Blade also has had no major recalls unlike the R1. That's what I
mean about Engineering
Frats
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Erik Astrup <eas...@mother.com> wrote in message
news:37edef45....@news.mcit.com...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:39:36 +0100, "Zarniwoop"
> <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
>
> >I think that depends on your point of view. The R1 is a fine motorcycle
for
> >sure but is way too focused for the highways. The FireBlade beats it
hands
> >down in engineering, comfort and finish.
>
> Hmmm....
>
> o Engineering - In what ways does it beat it "hands down"???
>
> o Comfort - Eh, that's a relative thing. Each rider is different. Some
> find GSXR 750s comfy, I can't sit on one in a showroom.
>
> o Finish - Up until the R1 I would agree. But I think the R1 is
> beautifully detailed.
>
> This from a former 900RR owner.
> An ORIGINAL one (93) mind you. :P
>
Snogfest Hosebeast
"Zarniwoop" <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
> They ran a FireBlade Engine for 100,000 miles in Japan and it didn't
miss a
> beat. The Blade also has had no major recalls unlike the R1. That's
what I
> mean about Engineering
>
> Frats
>
I don't call checking a hose-clamp a major recall and what does 100,100
miles in Japan mean to anyone ?
If I said "they" ran an R1 for 200,000 miles would it change your
opinion [yeah, right]?
--
R1, TDM.
Kiwi.
Don't do surgery with a chainsaw unless you're dealing with zombies
Geoff Maxwell
> I don't call checking a hose-clamp a major recall and what does 100,100
> miles in Japan mean to anyone ?
> If I said "they" ran an R1 for 200,000 miles would it change your
> opinion [yeah, right]?
What do you think of a rad hose popping off and spilling coolant on your
tire??????? A hose clamp may not be a big dollar item, but it's got a
whole helluvalot of potential for a real bad ride.
Donnie Robertson
can exploit the extra power.
Donnie
99 RR
Mike wrote in message <7pv0s5$gka$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
<<snip>>
> Aside from the comfort, fit & finish & engineering.
>You have to realize that only a few will actually exploit the power
>diff. You know if your one of them. If not then go with what you like
>best. Overall !
>Have fun,
> Mike
Donnie Robertson
Honda has been tweaking the RR for racing for many, many years and for
Yamaha to come out with bikes (R1, R6, R7) that are competitive in their
first and second years of production is quite a feat...
Donnie
99 RR
Trevor Hedge wrote in message <37c33...@news.highway1.com.au>...
Donnie Robertson
horsepower in a 390 lb. motorcycle requires some pretty damn good
engineering as well. If Honda's motor was tweaked up like the R1's, it
might not have the pristine track record it does. Generally, the more
performance-oriented the motor is, the less reliable (in my experience).
Donnie
99 RR
<<snip>>
>> They ran a FireBlade Engine for 100,000 miles in Japan and it didn't
>miss a beat. The Blade also has had no major recalls unlike the R1. That's
>what I mean about Engineering
<<snip>>
Zarniwoop
has been recalled numerous times for Clutch Basket cracks, cush drive cracks
Cylinder head studs etc. etc. Plus as you've mentioned the hose clips not
being the correct size.
Frats
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Snogfest Hosebeast <mhba...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7q0kf1$ktb$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <7q0bd4$h5q$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Zarniwoop" <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
> > They ran a FireBlade Engine for 100,000 miles in Japan and it didn't
> miss a
> > beat. The Blade also has had no major recalls unlike the R1. That's
> what I
> > mean about Engineering
> >
> > Frats
> >
> > [snip]
> I don't call checking a hose-clamp a major recall and what does 100,100
> miles in Japan mean to anyone ?
> If I said "they" ran an R1 for 200,000 miles would it change your
> opinion [yeah, right]?
> --
> R1, TDM.
> Kiwi.
> Don't do surgery with a chainsaw unless you're dealing with zombies
>
>
Mike
In my life I have had a sponsorship
from Honda for Bikes & parts. I think my wrist <although broken twicw> ;-)
still works fine. You missed the point entirely.
Donnie Robertson <drobert...@coyotetech.com> wrote in article
<7q0qpt$2...@journal.concentric.net>...
Donnie Robertson
Donnie
99 RR
Mike wrote in message <01beef14$1878b1e0$0a01a8c0@flying>...
RLJ3RD
eas...@mother.com wrote:
Ouch. Bit hard on that marketing hook didn't ya?
>
> Yamaha sticks with 5 valves just like Honda sticks with a 16 inch
> rim on the 900RR. Because they "have to". They've used both
> for years and that's the way it's gonna be damn it.
>
> The 5 valve motor adds nothing at all to street bike performance.
> But it does add to the cost of valve adjustments!
Well I don't know about having to. The five valve idea theoretically
works very well. Can't remember off-hand but one car builder has come
out with a five valve motor. As for performance, you have to remember
how an internal combustion engine can be coaxed into producing more
horsepower. It all starts with allowing the engine to breath (more
efficiently). I haven't checked but I believe the cost difference is
nominal and lets not forget the 26,000 mile valve adjustment interval
which brings up a whole new angle on the engineering issue. Not to
mention added value to dollars between valve adjustment intervals.
--
RLJ3RD ... 98' YZF-R1
"The only thing worse than regret is not trying"
Mike
"Donnie Robertson" <drobert...@coyotetech.com> wrote:
> Can you kindly restate the point then sir...I think I missed it
again :)
Hehe no prob here it is right below your post /
/
/
V
V
> >> > Aside from the comfort, fit & finish & engineering.
> >> >You have to realize that only a few will actually exploit the
power
> >> >diff. You know if your one of them. If not then go with what you
like
> >> >best. Overall !
> >> >Have fun,
> >> > Mike
All I said was basically they are both top notch bikes and the poster
couldnt go wrong with either. ;-) Also the "you know if your one of
them" applies to those who can use or truely need the diff in power
allowing for the obvious trade-offs. But as I said we are lucky to have
such great bikes to choose from these days eh?
Mike
Donnie Robertson
better without riding them both, which is what the original poster should
do...
Donnie
99 RR
Mike wrote in message <7q1g5q$9rk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Peter
Peter
93RR
Zarniwoop <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote in message
news:7q0rvi$rij$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
Peter
and none of my friends have one. I rode a 99RR and love it. I will probably
end up trading in my 93RR for the 99 model because I'm familliar with the
bike and was able to test it. It just seemed on paper that the R1 was
probably a better handling bike but I worry that it hasn't been refined
enough yet.
Peter
93RR
Donnie Robertson <drobert...@coyotetech.com> wrote in message
news:7q1iig$j...@journal.concentric.net...
> I agree...both bikes are very good. It's very hard to decide which you
like
> better without riding them both, which is what the original poster should
> do...
>
> Donnie
> 99 RR
>
> Mike wrote in message <7q1g5q$9rk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >All I said was basically they are both top notch bikes and the poster
> >couldnt go wrong with either. ;-) Also the "you know if your one of
> >them" applies to those who can use or truely need the diff in power
> >allowing for the obvious trade-offs. But as I said we are lucky to have
> >such great bikes to choose from these days eh?
> >Mike
> >
Peter
hoped on the RRs. These two bikes are so closely matched that it's probably
due to the riders that the RRs are out in front, don't you think so?
Peter
93RR
Trevor Hedge <edi...@accessin.com.au> wrote in message
news:37c33...@news.highway1.com.au...
> In our Production Superbike classes over here the R1 get's a regular
wopping
> from Blade riders.
> Ozman
>
TDWFL
>The five valve idea theoretically
>works very well. Can't remember off-hand but one car builder has come
>out with a five valve motor.
I believe the Ferrari F355 and 360 Modena have 5-valve heads. There may be
others (Audi?).
I also believe the 5-valve head does provide a performance advantage. I have a
1070cc FZR1000 that is very close in performance to built ZX-11s and GSXR1100s
that have almost 100ccs more displacement.
tim
Phxbrd
technology, huh? Learn now that accessory houses, like Frontenac,
offered 16 valve aftermarket heads for four cylinder Model Ts!
tom
Chevrolet brothers made speed parts for Ford.
Phxbrd <phx...@home.com> wrote in message news:37C46F9A...@home.com...
Albert G. Schilling
deposit on a Y2K R1, but if the new CBR looks better, well I'll be buying me
a Honda. Oh yeah, as far as recalls go, the 99 only had one, the hose clamp
on the radiator. It's amazing what some morons can pull out of their ass and
try to pass of as fact.
Albert
Albert G. Schilling
Albert
Zarniwoop wrote:
> What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
>
> Z
>
> --
> "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
> the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
>
> Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:207BD5B708B67957.EF8C40E1...@lp.airnews.net...
conn
peak output, but slightly less torque especially at low revs.
obviously that's about as simple as it gets, and other things come into this
greatly (rotational mass, valve area, bore *stroke, valve design, port
design / angle, fuel inj / carb, and the list goes on) but all thing being
equal, this statement holds true.
Conn
Now available in 100% license free.
co...@tig.com.au
Erik Astrup wrote in message <37e8eac2....@news.mcit.com>...
>On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:22:12 -0700, "Chris Mullins"
><cmul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Erik Astrup wrote:
>>>
>>> The 5 valve motor adds nothing at all to street bike
>>> performance. But it does add to the cost of valve
>>> adjustments!
>>>
>>
>>I don't know about that - my R1 has a valve adjustment interval of 26000
>>miles. Unless I miss my guess, that's almost double what most of the 4
valve
>>per cylinder sport bikes. I don't know if this can be directly attributed
to
>>the 5 Valve design, but as for cost per valve adjustment the huge interval
>>more than makes up for the cost of 4 additional valves that need to be
>>adjusted.
>
>I was not clear enough. I simply meant the time involved in
>checking/adjusting them would be longer, and that there
>was no real tangible benefit to a 5 valve head.
Zarniwoop
Frats
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:rs8lov...@corp.supernews.com...
> Do you know if the 99RR has had any recalls?
>
> Peter
> 93RR
>
> Zarniwoop <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote in message
> news:7q0rvi$rij$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > The R1's engineering although it may be good, is not up to Honda's. The
R1
> > has been recalled numerous times for Clutch Basket cracks, cush drive
> cracks
> > Cylinder head studs etc. etc. Plus as you've mentioned the hose clips
not
> > being the correct size.
> >
> > Frats
> >
> > Z
> >
> > --
> > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic
and
> > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> >
> >
> > Snogfest Hosebeast <mhba...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:7q0kf1$ktb$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > In article <7q0bd4$h5q$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> > > "Zarniwoop" <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
> > > > They ran a FireBlade Engine for 100,000 miles in Japan and it didn't
> > > miss a
> > > > beat. The Blade also has had no major recalls unlike the R1. That's
> > > what I
> > > > mean about Engineering
> > > >
> > > > Frats
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > I don't call checking a hose-clamp a major recall and what does
100,100
> > > miles in Japan mean to anyone ?
> > > If I said "they" ran an R1 for 200,000 miles would it change your
> > > opinion [yeah, right]?
> > > --
> > > R1, TDM.
> > > Kiwi.
> > > Don't do surgery with a chainsaw unless you're dealing with zombies
> > >
> > >
Zarniwoop
lighter than the R6) and 185 mph and less than 950cc
Frats
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:rs8lkh...@corp.supernews.com...
Zarniwoop
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
Snogfest Hosebeast
"Zarniwoop" <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
> The R1's engineering although it may be good, is not up to Honda's.
The R1
> has been recalled numerous times for Clutch Basket cracks, cush drive
cracks
> Cylinder head studs etc. etc. Plus as you've mentioned the hose clips
not
> being the correct size.
>
and this all means .... ?
The only thing the R1 has been recalled for here is the hose-
clamp/clip. I'll be asking Yamaha UK about the others, thats for real.
This Honda-Quailty thing really can be taken a bit too far. I seem to
remember reading the CBR600 is having some camshaft problems of late.
and the Varadero is turning into a bit of a marketing headache thanks
to similar problems. *but* if I owned either bike, I wouldn't put up
with anyone critisising *it* , either.
--
R1, TDM.
Kiwi.
Don't do surgery with a chainsaw unless you're dealing with zombies
Zarniwoop
Yamaha and post the results, I bet you don't ask or post!. You might also
ask if there's going to be a recall about the rear wheel and crankshaft
because there's rumours about those too.
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Snogfest Hosebeast <mhba...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Zarniwoop
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:BA823B8F630AC5C5.D7F9F66E...@lp.airnews.net...
> See what I mean, right out of your ass.
>
> Albert
>
> Zarniwoop wrote:
>
> > What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
> >
> > Z
> >
> > --
> > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic
and
> > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> >
Snogfest Hosebeast
"Zarniwoop" <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
> This thread is not about the CBR600 it's about the FireBlade. Go
ahead ask
> Yamaha and post the results, I bet you don't ask or post!. You might
also
> ask if there's going to be a recall about the rear wheel and
crankshaft
> because there's rumours about those too.
>
"The R1's engineering although it may be good, is not up to Honda's."
not me.
I *like* Honda's, and I *like* their build quality. I don't like trying
to imply some else's bike is of lesser worth by toting up imaginary
stories about reliability.
Reliability is something that all manufacturers have a problem with. I
do understand people slagging off the R1 for reason that it's been over-
promoted by the press, and it's riders.
I think the Fireblade is a much better proposition for those that want
it, and you won't hear me saying it's a sports-tourer or any other
pathetic comments I've heard levelled at it, it looks like the
1999/2000 version will be causing R1 owners (and Yamaha) to look over
their shoulders.
Peter
their merits, the deciding factor seems to have nothing to do with
engineering.
I called my insurance company today to get quotes on insuring a new RR and a
new R1. To insure a new RR it will cost US$243, to insure a new R1 it will
cost US$4687!!! More than $4000 extra to insure the R1!!! I couldn't believe
it. Nearly half the cost of the bike to insure it for one year. What's going
on? The insurance agent couldn't explain. The only thing I can think of is
that a million sqids that never rode before, heard about the R1, went out
and bought them then proceeded to mark the highways with their bodies. Or
maybe there's a lot of people stealing R1s? I can't believe the insurance
companies charge so much to insure the R1. Do any of you know why insurance
is so expensive for the R1?
I know there's a bunch of people reading this thread that ride R1, how much
are you paying for insurance, what insurance company?
Thanks,
Peter
93RR
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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Erik Astrup
>I'd love to take an R1 out for a rip, but the Yamaha dealership won't let me
>and none of my friends have one. I rode a 99RR and love it. I will probably
>end up trading in my 93RR for the 99 model because I'm familliar with the
>bike and was able to test it. It just seemed on paper that the R1 was
>probably a better handling bike but I worry that it hasn't been refined
>enough yet.
I was talking to my Triumph dealer about this crap yesterday. Test
rides and no test rides. Asked him how many sales he gets from
allowing test rides. He figures 50% of test rides he gives result
in a sale. In fact many come back from a test ride and say
"I'll take it!"
It's a pity that you can't test the R1. I am lucky to have a very
generous friend who lets me ride his often. I owned a 93 RR for many
years and the R1 is far superior in ALL respects. I'd like to try a
99 RR as I know they have really refined what was a brute of
a bike 7 years ago. Hell, even after all the money I spent on
suspension fixes up front the R1 is still much better.
Hey, give the Triumph 955i a test ride. Sweeeeet machine.
And you can test ride it!!!!!!!!!
Erik Astrup
>> RLJ3RD <rlj...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>The five valve idea theoretically
>>works very well. Can't remember off-hand but one car builder has come
>>out with a five valve motor.
>I also believe the 5-valve head does provide a performance advantage. I have a
>1070cc FZR1000 that is very close in performance to built ZX-11s and GSXR1100s
>that have almost 100ccs more displacement.
If 5 valve heads provided such an improvement then you'd see other
manufactures flocking to them. Fact is those heads have been around
for 14 years now and no other bike manufacturer has any interest.
Also, the Yamaha at WSB level has never been as fast as the Honda's on
top speed despite YEARS of development.
I spoke to Al Luddington last year at an AMA race and he said can't
stand the 5 valve head Yammies (from an crew chief perspective) Very
difficult to deal with. He said Yammie is much like Honda in that way.
They keep the 5 valve head out of tradition, just like Honda and
the 16 inch wheel thing. That's the way it is, that's how it will be.
He was happy to deal with the V4 Honda instead. :)
dle...@redshift.com
four valve head---all other things being equal. It isn't only total
valve area that counts. Remember, fuel-air mixture only flows around
the edges of the valve. It can't flow up the middle. Five valves can
offer more area, especially around the edges of the valves.
The problem it, I think, is one of a diminishing return. How much
valve area (intake) can you benefit by? If it were graphed, I think
the benefits would level off at some point. I think that point can
be acheived, or nearly acheived, with four valves per cyclinder.
When four valve heads were coming out (years ago) I remember an
article by Gordon Jennings talking about this principle and I assume
it also would apply to five valve heads.
Also, each individual valve can be lighter, due to its smaller size,
in a five valve head as compared to a four valve head with the same
overall valve area. Lighter valves can lead to higher RPM without
valve float . Higher RPM can lead to more horse power.
There are also problems that come from too much valve area. It is not
a simple problem.
Don
D. Lamar
_____________________________________
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Iwan
Iwan
http://come.to/bladerunners The Honda CBR900RR Fireblade page
Zarniwoop
Z
Iwan <Blader...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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TDWFL
>Kids! Snort...! Humph...! Multi-valve heads are the latest technology, huh?
Learn now that accessory houses, like Frontenac, offered 16 valve aftermarket
heads for four cylinder Model Ts!
You forgot to say "In my day....."
tim
f3
Of course there is that 916 that is pretty good lookin too.
Roque Torres wrote in message ...
>The R1 is better by far, period! Take the R1 and deal with the ugliness (I
>like it but to each his own)
>
>Roq
Phxbrd
You flatter me, Sir. In this family, only my now dead father bought
Fronty heads. I didn't come along until 1936, quite a bit later....
TDWFL
Seriously though, how many products can come out in their first year and be
completely fault free?
tim
> "Zarniwoop" wrote:
>Go check with Yamaha UK dick head!!!.
><albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>> See what I mean, right out of your ass.
>> Zarniwoop wrote:
>> > What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
>> > Z
>> > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
Albert G. Schilling
recall on my '99. Next time you might shutup when you don't know what the hell
you're talking about. Since ALL the bikes are made in Japan, I doubt that the UK
had recalls that the US didn't. Even if they did the original poster lives in
the US, so I guess he wouldn't care now would he?
Albert
Zarniwoop wrote:
> Go check with Yamaha UK dick head!!!.
>
> Z
>
> --
> "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
> the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
>
> Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:BA823B8F630AC5C5.D7F9F66E...@lp.airnews.net...
> > See what I mean, right out of your ass.
> >
> > Albert
> >
> > Zarniwoop wrote:
> >
> > > What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
> > >
> > > Z
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> > > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic
> and
> > > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> > > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> > > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> > >
> > > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > >
> news:207BD5B708B67957.EF8C40E1...@lp.airnews.net...
> > > > Why not wait a couple months and check out the Y2K models. I've got my
> > > > deposit on a Y2K R1, but if the new CBR looks better, well I'll be
> buying
> > > me
> > > > a Honda. Oh yeah, as far as recalls go, the 99 only had one, the hose
> > > clamp
> > > > on the radiator. It's amazing what some morons can pull out of their
> ass
> > > and
> > > > try to pass of as fact.
> > > >
> > > > Albert
> > > >
> > > > Peter wrote:
> > > >
Albert G. Schilling
Yamaha. They are count them, 1. How many recall notices did you recieve for your
'99 R1??? What a dipshit.
Zarniwoop
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
TDWFL <td...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990826174547...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
> Okay pal! Just what else are you hiding up there?
>
> Seriously though, how many products can come out in their first year and
be
> completely fault free?
>
> tim
>
> > "Zarniwoop" wrote:
> >Go check with Yamaha UK dick head!!!.
>
> ><albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> >> See what I mean, right out of your ass.
>
> >> Zarniwoop wrote:
> >> > What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
> >> > Z
>
> >> > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
Zarniwoop
particular year, I said the R1 had been recalled numerous times. There is
also marked difference between Euro and US bikes disckhead, but obviously
you know that. NOT!!!.
Z
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:B199AEF0646876EE.A8608278...@lp.airnews.net...
> I don't need to dumbass, Yamaha sends me the recall notices directly. I've
had 1
> recall on my '99. Next time you might shutup when you don't know what the
hell
> you're talking about. Since ALL the bikes are made in Japan, I doubt that
the UK
> had recalls that the US didn't. Even if they did the original poster lives
in
> the US, so I guess he wouldn't care now would he?
>
> Albert
>
> Zarniwoop wrote:
>
> > Go check with Yamaha UK dick head!!!.
> >
> > Z
> >
> > --
> > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic
and
> > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> >
> > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> >
news:BA823B8F630AC5C5.D7F9F66E...@lp.airnews.net...
> > > See what I mean, right out of your ass.
> > >
> > > Albert
> > >
> > > Zarniwoop wrote:
> > >
> > > > What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
> > > >
> > > > Z
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the
Great
> > > > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the
magic
> > and
> > > > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron
Wrangler
> > > > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I
could
> > > > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> > > >
> > > > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > > >
> >
news:207BD5B708B67957.EF8C40E1...@lp.airnews.net...
> > > > > Why not wait a couple months and check out the Y2K models. I've
got my
> > > > > deposit on a Y2K R1, but if the new CBR looks better, well I'll be
> > buying
> > > > me
> > > > > a Honda. Oh yeah, as far as recalls go, the 99 only had one, the
hose
> > > > clamp
> > > > > on the radiator. It's amazing what some morons can pull out of
their
> > ass
Zarniwoop
mention any particular year of the R1, I meant R1's period. Now be a good
little chutney ferret and go to your barmitzva. Oh and by the way, I don't
have an R1 the top speed is far to fast for me, I've got a Hayabusa.
Frats
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:37C595E9...@bigfoot.com...
> No thanks dumbass, I'll just look at the recall notices I've recieved from
> Yamaha. They are count them, 1. How many recall notices did you recieve
for your
> '99 R1??? What a dipshit.
>
Peter
Thanks for all your feedback! I just drove my new Black and White 900RR home
from the dealership.
Peter
Albert G. Schilling
thread in the subject line and in everyone of my posts the 1999 model is
specifically referred to. While you in your delirious head stuck up the ass
world for some unexplainable reason are referring to a different year. Please
keep making a total and utter fool of yourself as I do enjoy this. Oh yeah, and
once again since the original poster is from the US, I'm sure he cares what is
happening with the model in Europe, but obviously you know that. NOT!!!
Albert
Zarniwoop wrote:
> Fuck off sperm breath, we were talking generally and I did not site any
> particular year, I said the R1 had been recalled numerous times. There is
> also marked difference between Euro and US bikes disckhead, but obviously
> you know that. NOT!!!.
>
> Z
>
> Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:B199AEF0646876EE.A8608278...@lp.airnews.net...
> > I don't need to dumbass, Yamaha sends me the recall notices directly. I've
> had 1
> > recall on my '99. Next time you might shutup when you don't know what the
> hell
> > you're talking about. Since ALL the bikes are made in Japan, I doubt that
> the UK
> > had recalls that the US didn't. Even if they did the original poster lives
> in
> > the US, so I guess he wouldn't care now would he?
> >
> > Albert
> >
> > Zarniwoop wrote:
> >
> > > Go check with Yamaha UK dick head!!!.
> > >
> > > Z
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
> > > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic
> and
> > > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler
> > > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could
> > > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> > >
> > > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > >
> news:BA823B8F630AC5C5.D7F9F66E...@lp.airnews.net...
> > > > See what I mean, right out of your ass.
> > > >
> > > > Albert
> > > >
> > > > Zarniwoop wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls.
> > > > >
> > > > > Z
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > "Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the
> Great
> > > > > Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the
> magic
> > > and
> > > > > the indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron
> Wrangler
> > > > > could talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I
> could
> > > > > persuade it to go for a walk afterwards!."
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > >
> news:207BD5B708B67957.EF8C40E1...@lp.airnews.net...
> > > > > > Why not wait a couple months and check out the Y2K models. I've
> got my
> > > > > > deposit on a Y2K R1, but if the new CBR looks better, well I'll be
> > > buying
> > > > > me
> > > > > > a Honda. Oh yeah, as far as recalls go, the 99 only had one, the
> hose
> > > > > clamp
> > > > > > on the radiator. It's amazing what some morons can pull out of
> their
> > > ass
> > > > > and
> > > > > > try to pass of as fact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Albert
> > > > > >
Zarniwoop
one recall but the R1 range has had several so tough shit and that's several
more than the Blade
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler could
talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could persuade it
to go for a walk afterwards!."
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:0FA07C89F262BCEA.6E72371F...@lp.airnews.net...
Yoshiimura
>one recall but the R1 range has had several so tough shit and that's several
>more than the Blade
Ssorry, but the 99 R1 only has had one recall for a hose clamp.
Yoshi...@cs.com
99 R 1
87 GN
79 Z-28
Mike
Enjoy & be safe.
Mike
Peter <pwan...@lvcm.com> wrote in article <37C74D20...@lvcm.com>...
Albert G. Schilling
Albert
Zarniwoop
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler could
talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could persuade it
to go for a walk afterwards!."
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:77FA8BC02AC28CEB.1DE9E700...@lp.airnews.net...
OldDog1
Albert G. Schilling wrote in message
<77FA8BC02AC28CEB.1DE9E700...@lp.airnews.net>...
>Keep talking fool.
>
>Albert
So you quote three whole damned messages to add the one line
non-sequitor
above?
That makes you appear to be the fool.
Donnie Robertson
easy (10-minute install).
Donnie
99 RR
Peter wrote in message <37C74D20...@lvcm.com>...
Albert G. Schilling
Albert
Zarniwoop wrote:
> Pink oboe player
>
> Z
>Snipped for olddog1's benefit
Albert G. Schilling
OldDog1 wrote:
No, just lazy.
Albert
Zarniwoop
Nearly as bright as you.
Clay Adams
when someone asks for an opinion. HELL, ALL of these bikes will blow away a
Ferrari, why are we so damn nitpicky??? I have an F3, and love it. Had a
ZX-11 before that, and I still love my F3. Come on guys, lighten up!!!!!!
:0)
Zarniwoop
he started it
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler could
talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could persuade it
to go for a walk afterwards!." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the
Galaxy, a Trilogy in five parts.
Clay Adams <cad...@lascofittings.com> wrote in message
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Albert G. Schilling
Albert
Albert G. Schilling
didn't know about. BTW, what color is the sky in your world. Moron.
Albert
Kawagator
I've ever read.
Zarniwoop <z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote in message
news:7qhdht$r3n$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> You can blame the "Chutney Ferret" better known as old Albo the brown
penis,
> he started it
>
>
Zarniwoop
slow whited ignoramus, the R1 range has had numerous recalls the 99 model
may have only had one but the range has had at least 3.
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler could
talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could persuade it
to go for a walk afterwards!." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the
Galaxy, a Trilogy in five parts.
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:37CD71ED...@bigfoot.com...
> No actually YOU were the one who started it mouthing off about something
you
> didn't know about. BTW, what color is the sky in your world. Moron.
>
> Albert
>
> Zarniwoop wrote:
>
Albert G. Schilling
mentioned just the '99 models. It's real simple look a couple inches up above
this writing and look at the line labled SUBJECT...... What does that line say?
Now take a look back at your post on 25 August. Here's the quote imbecile:
"What a tosser. The Euro bikes had these recalls."
Now then, pull your head out of your ass and take a deep breath.
Albert
Zarniwoop
still stuck at the bottom of the evolutionary ladder
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler could
talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could persuade it
to go for a walk afterwards!." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the
Galaxy, a Trilogy in five parts.
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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TDWFL
Albert G. Schilling
cranial capacity. But, by all , means, show me the first insult that I hurled at
you? I eagerly await your next salvo.
Albert
Zarniwoop
underpants of society. You called me a moron, remember.
You are a cancerous polyp on the anus of mankind, now go subscribe to
alt.iq.less-than-six and bother us no more. Oh and go spank your boyfriends
monkey too!!!
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII the magic and
indefatigable?"." The Great Hyperlobic Omni Cognate Neutron Wrangler could
talk all four legs off an Acturian Mega Donkey, but only I could persuade it
to go for a walk afterwards!." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the
Galaxy, a Trilogy in five parts.
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:37CFD126...@bigfoot.com...
Bz
<z...@NOSPAMmegadodopublishing.com> wrote:
>At least I have a cranium and know what it means you piss stain on the
>underpants of society. You called me a moron, remember.
>
>You are a cancerous polyp on the anus of mankind, now go subscribe to
>alt.iq.less-than-six and bother us no more. Oh and go spank your boyfriends
>monkey too!!!
Good insults...sounds very medically related...I may be a bit too late
in talking about this thread's original topic, but:
R1 will CLEAn the 900RR's clocks, simple. Road or track. Of course,
the rider has >90% to do with the deal, but it's amazing what a
whomping bit more hp will make up for...
out
1999 Yamaha R1
1998 Ducati 916 BiPosto
1997 Honda 600f3
Mike
Sorry to be off topic but.........
I see in your sig a 97F3.
How do you like it? Any mods?
Just curious;-)
PS: I think the Y2K Blade will have the upper hand over the R1 tho ;-)
Cya,
Mike
http://members.xoom.com/flying3/f3.htm
Albert G. Schilling
started the insult train by calling me a tosser. But of course in that twisted
sycophant world of yours, you obviously have buried that fact deep in your quite
pathetic sub conscious.
Albert
Z
a German Shepherd dog after a head swap operation, now go get yourself
lobotomised Albo you old faggot.
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Omni-cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII, the magic and
idifaticable?." "The Great Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler could talk all four
legs off a Arcturian Mega Donkey but only I could persuade it to go for a
walk afterwards." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, a
Trilogy in five parts.
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Z
subject you wank strain on a faggots bed sheet
SNIP
Why not wait a couple months and check out the Y2K models. I've got my
deposit on a Y2K R1, but if the new CBR looks better, well I'll be buying me
a Honda. Oh yeah, as far as recalls go, the 99 only had one, the hose clamp
on the radiator. It's amazing what some morons can pull out of their ass and
try to pass of as fact.
END SNIP
I realise that you attention to detail and accuracy is about as accurate as
1 + 1 = 42, but the thread is above for you to read at your leisure, if
indeed you can read. I think that your boyfriend reads it out and you
DICKtate the reply for him to type out.
You started it, now go back to licking urinals your favourite hobby.
Now be gone Amoeba intellect!!!
Z
Albert G. Schilling
I guess I was talking to you. Now that we've got that straight. You will notice
that the post mentions the 99 model specifically, but because you have your head
buried so far up your ass, you didn't catch that now did you? You just love
proving my point there don't you cock smoker. Yes I can make totally inane
homophobic rants at you as well. Now be careful your mamma doesn't catch you
typing nasty things on her computer of she'll send you to bed without your
pudding.
Albert
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robby
Albert G. Schilling wrote in message ...
TDWFL
>You guys are both fucking morons. Take it to
>alt.moron.imgonnawhoopyourassyoudickbiter
I have to agree. Either use e-mail, change the name of the thread, or book
yourself on to Jerry Springer.
Z
If I am a moron, you are a serious retard. I KNOW THE POST MENTIONS THE 99
Model only, but I was drawn into a engineering comparison and I stated THE
RANGE had been recalled several times, this is something that you did not
have the whit or education to pick up on.
Again, so it may sink in, The CBR900RR range has had NO recalls, the R1
range has had SEVERAL recalls. Now, if the Penny has dropped GOOD, if not,
go get yourself ,an education. Learn to read, which you clearly have not
done yet.
I expect you only learnt to walk upright last week and next week you'll be
on a quest for Fire!!!.
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Omni-cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII, the magic and
idifaticable?." "The Great Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler could talk all four
legs off a Arcturian Mega Donkey but only I could persuade it to go for a
walk afterwards." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, a
Trilogy in five parts.
Albert G. Schilling <albe...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Z
Z
--
"Oh great computer, are you not a more fiendish disputant than the Great
Omni-cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciseronicus XII, the magic and
idifaticable?." "The Great Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler could talk all four
legs off a Arcturian Mega Donkey but only I could persuade it to go for a
walk afterwards." Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, a
Trilogy in five parts.
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