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Mohsin

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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what do u guys think about the rs50 and 125cc race bikes on the street?

A friend of mine..starting out...(18, 140 pounds, ~5'7) is thinking about
em. ANd i have no info to help em out with. =p

Hes thinking about just leisure riding on weekends. It has a 3.6 g tank,
dont kno what kinda mileage it gets however. Dealers/shops are in SF and
Milpitas (we're in Oakland, CA) ...for parts. etc.

I think its around 200 pounds.

Erik Astrup

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:20:15 -0700, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:

>what do u guys think about the rs50 and 125cc race bikes on the street?

There probably isn't anything worse you could possibly choose than a 125 GP
race bike. The RS50 has almost a cult following and can be a BLAST if you
stick to the twisties with it. Read City Bike from a few months ago. They
did a story about them and another 50cc machine.

>Hes thinking about just leisure riding on weekends. It has a 3.6 g tank,
>dont kno what kinda mileage it gets however. Dealers/shops are in SF and
>Milpitas (we're in Oakland, CA) ...for parts. etc.

Forget about the 125. It has no VIN and cannot be registered on the street.
Also, if it's a true *race bike* it is completely unsuited to the street
since it has no lights (and no alternator to supply power to them) and
requires you run pre-mix in the tank. (Mix the oil and gas)

The 50 on the other hand may be a lot of fun. But, it cannot be used on any
freeways. But it can be licensed for the street 100% legally.

Good luck.


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1999 Yamaha YZF-1000R1
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Erik Astrup

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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On 14 Oct 2000 06:52:56 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:

>Anything under 150cc is illegal for highway use.

Not legal for *freeway* use.

> If that wasn't enough, they're also two-strokes, which are also illegal on the street.
>They're race bikes--track use only.

The 50cc machine is perfectly legal for street use. It's considered a moped.

CHeck out City Bike from a couple months back. Great story about how much
fun the Derbi and the 'Prila are in the back roads. Wicked fast through the
corners. Also, the Derbi is often sold with an 80cc kit already
installed. :)

Denise Howard

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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Mohsin <syb...@NOSPAMflashcom.net> wrote:
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> what do u guys think about the rs50 and 125cc race bikes on the street?

Anything under 150cc is illegal for highway use. If that wasn't enough,


they're also two-strokes, which are also illegal on the street.

They're race bikes--track use only.

Denise AFM #732
'95 CBR600 F3
'88 EX250 racebike
'00 SV650
'89 EX500 racebike

Mohsin

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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Thanks for all the info (and bad news..hehe) guys and gals.


"Mohsin" <syb...@NOSPAMflashcom.net> wrote in message
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> what do u guys think about the rs50 and 125cc race bikes on the street?
>

> A friend of mine..starting out...(18, 140 pounds, ~5'7) is thinking about
> em. ANd i have no info to help em out with. =p
>

> Hes thinking about just leisure riding on weekends. It has a 3.6 g tank,
> dont kno what kinda mileage it gets however. Dealers/shops are in SF and
> Milpitas (we're in Oakland, CA) ...for parts. etc.
>

Denise Howard

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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Erik Astrup <eas...@mother.com> wrote:
>
> On 14 Oct 2000 06:52:56 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:
>
>>Anything under 150cc is illegal for highway use.
>
> Not legal for *freeway* use.

Are you sure *highways* are legal for under 150cc? I could swear this
came up on the DMV written test.

>> If that wasn't enough, they're also two-strokes, which are also illegal on the street.
>>They're race bikes--track use only.
>

> The 50cc machine is perfectly legal for street use. It's considered a moped.

Thanks for the corrections, Erik. I think those qualifications still put
the kabosh on what the original poster had in mind!

Erik Astrup

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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On 14 Oct 2000 22:17:13 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:

>> Not legal for *freeway* use.
>
>Are you sure *highways* are legal for under 150cc? I could swear this
>came up on the DMV written test.

Well...I guess I don't know what a "highway" is then.

> The 50cc machine is perfectly legal for street use. It's considered a moped.
>
>Thanks for the corrections, Erik. I think those qualifications still put
>the kabosh on what the original poster had in mind!

Quite possibly.

Steve Davis

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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In California, the word "freeway" is used in two ways.

The original use of "freeway" was to distinguish limited access multi
lane highways from all other roads. It's a legal term, in that the
law makes certain requirements for a road to have the "freeway"
designation and some low powered motor vehicles are prohibited from
using freeways. This legal definition of freeway is still in use.

Where a road becomes a legally designated freeway and at all freeway
entrance ramps are signs anouncing the beginning of "freeway" status.

The general public uses the term "freeway" for any multi lane highway.

Highway 101 in Salinas is a freeway. Highway 101 a few miles south of
Salinas isn't a freeway because vehicles from various roads and farm
fields can access the highway directly. Many of the farm vehicles
can't meet the minimum 45mph speed required on "freeways".

Steve


Denise Howard

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Oct 15, 2000, 1:39:46 AM10/15/00
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Erik Astrup <eas...@mother.com> wrote:
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>>Are you sure *highways* are legal for under 150cc? I could swear this
>>came up on the DMV written test.
>
> Well...I guess I don't know what a "highway" is then.

???? You know, those things that aren't six lanes in each direction with
a concrete median down the middle, and aren't prefixed "Interstate".

Local examples: Hwy 9, Hwy 35 (Skyline), Hwy 4, Hwy 108, Hwy 120 toward
Yosemite.

Evil Bifrost

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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In article <39e8c8b0...@news.pacbell.net>, Erik Astrup wrote:
>On 14 Oct 2000 22:17:13 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:
>
>>> Not legal for *freeway* use.
>>
>>Are you sure *highways* are legal for under 150cc? I could swear this
>>came up on the DMV written test.
>
>Well...I guess I don't know what a "highway" is then.

I've always wondered about this definition...
The MC permit says "no riding on the freeway" but does that mean
you can go on a highway?
So I could go on 101 but no 280 here in the bay area?
But Highway 35 turns into 280 for a 5-10 mile stretch, then it heads up into
the hills.
Highway 80 is huge in some places, so I don't think its a lane designation.
Maybe it has something to do with who funds the roads? I've been
curious enough to want to call the CHP, but I have the feeling
they wouldn't give me the right answer :)

The RS50 is perfectly legal in California, however the 125
wouldn't be. There is some kinda insane law that allows 2stroke engines
50cc's and under to be legal.... I was looking at one at Scuderia
in SF and they gave me a bit of the scoupe.

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"Where am I and why am I in this handbasket?"

Russ Roslewski

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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In California, the legal definition of a "highway" is essentially ANY
public road, or even parking lot, where laws are enforceable. See the
following excerpt from the CVC:

360. "Highway" is a way or place of whatever nature, publicly
maintained and open to the use of the public for purposes of
vehicular travel. Highway includes street.

Russ

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'94 FZR1000, '95 CBR600F3 race bike

Evil Bifrost

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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In article <e10huscpeve92hu5k...@4ax.com>, Steve Davis wrote:
>In California, the word "freeway" is used in two ways.

just two? :)
Might as well be "Autobahn" "Drunken Driving Course" "SUV Land" etcetc

>The original use of "freeway" was to distinguish limited access multi
>lane highways from all other roads. It's a legal term, in that the
>law makes certain requirements for a road to have the "freeway"
>designation and some low powered motor vehicles are prohibited from
>using freeways. This legal definition of freeway is still in use.

Hrm, that sounds really subjective...

>Where a road becomes a legally designated freeway and at all freeway
>entrance ramps are signs anouncing the beginning of "freeway" status.

So if the roadsign on the onramp sez "Highway" then its not a freeway?

>The general public uses the term "freeway" for any multi lane highway.

But thats not the legal term, so everyone is wrong?

>Highway 101 in Salinas is a freeway. Highway 101 a few miles south of
>Salinas isn't a freeway because vehicles from various roads and farm
>fields can access the highway directly. Many of the farm vehicles
>can't meet the minimum 45mph speed required on "freeways".

Interesting. Could I drive a Farm tractor over the Golden Gate Bridge?
That is technically HW1 and HW101...
And where Highway 35 starts, it dumps onto the Freeway, could one
continue to think of 280 as part of Highway 35?

Erik Astrup

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Oct 15, 2000, 8:23:01 PM10/15/00
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On 15 Oct 2000 05:39:46 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:

>> Well...I guess I don't know what a "highway" is then.
>
>???? You know, those things that aren't six lanes in each direction with
>a concrete median down the middle, and aren't prefixed "Interstate".
>
>Local examples: Hwy 9, Hwy 35 (Skyline), Hwy 4, Hwy 108, Hwy 120 toward
>Yosemite.

And perhaps Hwy 101?

What's the legal definition?

dattaway

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Oct 15, 2000, 8:43:04 PM10/15/00
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Erik Astrup <eas...@mother.com> thoughtfully composed:

: On 15 Oct 2000 05:39:46 GMT, in alt.motorcycle.sportbike you wrote:

:>> Well...I guess I don't know what a "highway" is then.
:>
:>???? You know, those things that aren't six lanes in each direction with
:>a concrete median down the middle, and aren't prefixed "Interstate".
:>
:>Local examples: Hwy 9, Hwy 35 (Skyline), Hwy 4, Hwy 108, Hwy 120 toward
:>Yosemite.

: And perhaps Hwy 101?

: What's the legal definition?

The shortest *legal* definition of a highway I could find was summed up as
"Title 23," which is quite a lengthy legal wording of what a highway is:

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_00/23cfrv1_00.html

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