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Mother Henrietta Hickey

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Oct 12, 2001, 1:41:57 AM10/12/01
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I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
crystal chandeliers on the inside? How can any of you prefer your own
fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your
responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for
children?

I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
following recommendations from your best friend and children's
advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.

1
DO illuminate your front porch or doorway on Halloween so kids won't
think you're a lonely, bitter recluse who doesn't want children to
enjoy themselves.
Show today's young people that your light will shine in the darkness
of greed, lust, and hate, inspiring children to draw nigh unto God and
to share His blessings.

2
DON'T hand out any sugar-loaded candy or snacks, however. Kids can
easily become addicted to such poisons as Hershey Bars, KitKats, and
Jujyfruits. If you must give the little trick-or-treaters something
to eat, give them wholesome apples, oranges, or raisins instead.
Children who are grossly overweight, a sure sign they're being
neglected at home and left alone to raid the cookie jar and worse
every afternoon after school, give them one of those diet brochures
asking them, "Why Are You Fat?" and offering them three or four
sensible diets instead of all the junk food with which their indulgent
parents stuff their puffy cheeks.

3
DO hand out Gospel tracts explaining to children that Halloween is
fundamentally a Satanic celebration best avoided by True Christians.
Chick Publications has a wide variety of 40-page pamphlets addressing
this issue. Titles include "Bewitched," "Boo!" "The Poor Little
Witch," "The Trick," and "The Little Ghost." All are available in
Spanish in the event you have foreigners in your neighborhood who
refuse to learn proper English or obey our immigration and traffic
laws. Hickey Family Holiness Ministries publishes a few titles on the
subject also, among them "The Big Barbecue" and "Satan Lurks in Every
Shadow."
Think about inviting children to your church on Sunday. If you
haven't already, work out a program that will hold their interest.
Every church needs at least one active youth group. It doesn't matter
if the children belong to another religion. If they're celebrating
Halloween, especially by dressing up as something provocative or
strange, they can't be all that religious and need all the spiritual
help they can get.

4
DON'T let your children dress up as vampires, witches, werewolves,
extraterrestrials or another supernatural (which is to say demonic)
creatures. Mad scientists and mass murderers are also out, as are all
turban-wearing muftis or mullahs from the Islamic community. This
year a lot of children are dressing up as fireman, policeman, doctors,
and nurses to show their support for those brave men and women who
risked their lives to rescue and revive victims of the recent terror
attacks. They can also dress up as American heroes like Dred Scott,
Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Phyllis Wheatley, and Harriet
Tubman. No child must be allowed to dress up as a slave, a tramp, a
pimp, or an Elmer Gantry of any race.

5
DO make sure your children cover up their tender young flesh on
Halloween, no matter how warm it is. Boys should not be allowed to
bear their chests or wear skimpy loincloths. Girls must not be
allowed to wear revealing clothes or to dress like popular media
stars. Even the most upscale neighborhoods are full of child
molesters and other deviates who will lust after any half-dressed
child if given the opportunity. Marilyn Monroe, Madonna, and even
Jennifer Lopez are not proper role models for today's girls. They
dress immodestly and tout their sexual attributes openly and
shamelessly. A few years ago I saw a girl dressed as that wicked
Britney Spears. She actually had a pair of balloons tucked under her
loose-fitting top. The whole sight was disgraceful and I told the
child I wouldn't give any of my mixed nuts to any little whore-in-the
making. Girls under the age of ten shouldn't even be allowed to wear
lipstick and other serious makeup.

5
DON'T allow boys to dress up like girls or vice versa. Cross-dressing
is an abomination in the eyes of God and promotes homosexuality. A
lot of stage drag queens got their start when permissive parents
allowed them to cross-dress one Halloween. Soon the devil convinces
such children that they really are members of the opposite sex and
begins to cloud their mind with sinister sexual impulses. Make sure
the sex of every child is apparent from the costume.

6
DO consider having a safe and sane Halloween party at your home
instead of sending your children out into a dark night full of
devil-worshipping flakes and weirdoes. Homosexuals are especially
active on Halloween night. Most attend Black Masses at which they
sign the Gay Agenda in their own blood before pouncing on innocent
children. Many actually lie down and copulate with the devil or his
priests during these blasphemous occasions. Report any evidence of
Satanic worship, which often involves outdoor orgies and child
sacrifice, to the police. The parents could get together too, of
course, but should avoid imbibing any of the devil's potions, elixirs,
and brews.

7
DON'T forget to have a short religious service during this party, at
which you give thanks to Almighty God for His many blessings. It's a
good idea to reclaim the entire holiday from the pagans by giving it a
religious theme, such as Daniel in the Lion's Den or Esther's Plea on
Behalf of Her People. It's beautiful to see children dressed up as
well-known Biblical characters. Just be sure your little Samsons and
Delilahs don't expose too much skin or get carried away while enacting
their parts.

8
DO give your children Gospel tracts to pass out if they go
trick-or-treating. They should be encouraged to report any and all
suspicious activities to you. If a pervert is seen trying to lure a
child into a "haunted house," his activities should be reported to the
police. Witches who entice children to drink their hallucinogenic
brews must be exposed as dope pushers and jailed as corrupters of the
young.

9
DON'T forget to inspect every piece of candy that's put in your
child's bag. Satanists hate children and want to poison or injure
them. Discard any candy that shows evidence of tampering. Get rid of
anything that contains more than two grams of white sugar too. Kids
don't need that much stimulation. Cut any fruits into bite-sized
squares. Witches and warlocks frequently insert pins and razor blades
into the most innocuous-looking sweets.

10
DO tell improperly dressed children to go back home and put some
decent clothes on. Explain that children who dress up like demons or
monsters are actually inviting evil forces to take possession of them.
Tell them where they can find a good exorcist should they fall prey
to the devil's minions. Little ghouls with plastic fangs and
blood-like paint smeared all over their faces should be reminded that
in many parts of the pagan world people really do eat corpses. Ask
them if that's what they want to do when they grow up. Tell them that
if they give in to the devil, they may lose control of their own
minds, bodies, and souls.

11
DON'T watch wicked movies unless you're sure the evildoers get their
just deserts in the end. Movies like "Psycho," which they show around
here every Mother's Day, are out because they leave the grinning
madman unpunished. Movies like "Cry Terror," where a rapist is
stabbed to death and a kidnapper electrocuted, are better for young
people because they teach a clear moral message: evil doesn't pay. No
ambiguous moral quagmires should be tolerated. Children don't need to
see a lot of supernatural images in movies either. One movie that
shows how witches really behave is "Horror Hotel." It's not unlike
"Psycho" in its way in that in involves a coven of witches who lure
beautiful girls to a remote hotel where they can sacrifice them to the
devil. The saving grace is that all the witches are burnt to death
before the end.

11
DO call the police if your wicked neighbors insist on partying till
dawn. Remind them that you don't want your neighborhood to be turned
into a hotbed of drunkenness, revelry, lust, and vice on the devil's
special night, and that you won't stand for infractions of the law.


Remember, children, Jesus loves all of you,
No matter how sinful you are,


Mother Henrietta Hickey
Fount of Christian Wisdom

Charlene

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Oct 12, 2001, 2:42:17 AM10/12/01
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OH

MY

GOD!!!

(NOW I've read it all!)

...Charlene

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Dawn Mulliss

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Oct 12, 2001, 7:06:44 AM10/12/01
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Mother Henrietta Hickey wrote:

> 4
> DON'T let your children dress up as vampires, witches, werewolves,
> extraterrestrials or another supernatural (which is to say demonic)
> creatures.

Extra-terrestrials aren't supernatural! If life exists anywhere else in
the universe (which it very likely does, although I certainly don't
believe they're visiting us in UFOs!), it would be quite *natural*!

Dawn

Wyle E. Coyote

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The same is true of other demonic creatures. While not nice, they are
natural.

have a good day,

Wyle


> Dawn
>


Stephanie

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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside?

I do not like crystal chandeliers.


> How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your


I do not like red carpet. I do not really want a crown and scepter either. I
may be crazy but I want a heaven of peace, love and understanding.

> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for
> children?
>
> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
> and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
> possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
> The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
> very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
> children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
> white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
> disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
> children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
> following recommendations from your best friend and children's
> advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.
>

You crack me up!

Stephanie

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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside?

I do not like crystal chandeliers.


> How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your

I do not like red carpet. I do not really want a crown and scepter either. I
may be crazy but I want a heaven of peace, love and understanding.

> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for


> children?
>
> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
> and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
> possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
> The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
> very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
> children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
> white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
> disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
> children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
> following recommendations from your best friend and children's
> advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.
>

You crack me up!

Shell

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Oct 12, 2001, 2:28:39 PM10/12/01
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We're holding a satanic ritual that evening. Care to join us?

~Shell

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Stephanie

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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:75d7cc7.01101...@posting.google.com...
> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside?

I do not like crystal chandeliers.


> How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your

I do not like red carpet. I do not really want a crown and scepter either. I
may be crazy but I want a heaven of peace, love and understanding.

> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for


> children?
>
> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
> and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
> possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
> The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
> very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
> children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
> white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
> disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
> children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
> following recommendations from your best friend and children's
> advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.
>

You crack me up!

Stephanie

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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside?

I do not like crystal chandeliers.


> How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your

I do not like red carpet. I do not really want a crown and scepter either. I
may be crazy but I want a heaven of peace, love and understanding.

> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for


> children?
>
> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
> and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
> possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
> The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
> very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
> children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
> white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
> disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
> children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
> following recommendations from your best friend and children's
> advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.
>

You crack me up!

Stephanie

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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:75d7cc7.01101...@posting.google.com...
> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside?

I do not like crystal chandeliers.


> How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your

I do not like red carpet. I do not really want a crown and scepter either. I
may be crazy but I want a heaven of peace, love and understanding.

> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for


> children?
>
> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
> and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
> possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
> The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
> very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
> children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
> white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
> disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
> children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
> following recommendations from your best friend and children's
> advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.
>

You crack me up!

Stephanie

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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me. I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame? Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now? Do you really want to join them in their torment? Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside?

I do not like crystal chandeliers.


> How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your

I do not like red carpet. I do not really want a crown and scepter either. I
may be crazy but I want a heaven of peace, love and understanding.

> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for


> children?
>
> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"
> and leave your children open to the very real threat of demonic
> possession in the process. Not all terror comes from the Middle East.
> The forces of darkness are waging war against your family at this
> very moment. Nothing would please Satan more than to capture your
> children and corrupt their souls through the agency of such evils as
> white sugar, television, alcohol, drugs, the occult, and that
> disgusting rock 'n' rap they listen to. If you want to keep your
> children out of trouble this fall, you'll pay careful attention to the
> following recommendations from your best friend and children's
> advocate, Mother Henrietta "Holiness" Hickey.
>

You crack me up!

High

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Oct 12, 2001, 5:22:17 PM10/12/01
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I'm going to dress my three kids as : Jesse Jackson, his mistress, and their
love child.

Thanks for the safety reminders, though.


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Dawn Mulliss

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"Wyle E. Coyote" wrote:

> The same is true of other demonic creatures. While not nice, they are
> natural.
>
> have a good day,
>
> Wyle

The difference being that "demonic creatures" would live in another dimension,
ie. hell. Aliens would just live on other planets. Hardly supernatural.

Dawn


beth thomas

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Wouldn't you
> rather spend eternity in a sprawling Southern mansion in the Kingdom
> of Heaven, a mansion complete with stately white columns and a
> reflecting pool on the outside, plus plush wall-to-wall carpeting and
> crystal chandeliers on the inside? How can any of you prefer your own
> fleshly lusts for power, money, and fleeting pleasures to the throne,
> the crown, the scepter, and the gorgeous red carpet you'll be awarded
> in heaven if you'll only repent and stop neglecting your
> responsibilities as parents, educators, and proper role models for
> children?

Heaven is Graceland?
Will Elvis sing "How Great Thou Art" to welcome me? (Or maybe just a
recording as we here in Memphis know the Real Story!) I know his mama is
there, tho, cause she tried. Maybe she runs the tape player. there.

I love to read all the wisdom you fount, MHH, and appreciate all the hard
work that goes in to each one of your, um, sharing sessions.
I have read this NG for at least 3 years and have missed you when you have
been hospitalized.....oh, I mean on mission trips!
Beth
I especially like the suggestion about diet pamphlets!

Angelia Sparrow

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Oct 12, 2001, 7:39:13 PM10/12/01
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"Mother Henrietta Hickey" <penic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> I've been away from you for over a month now, children, and I can see
> how desperately you need me.

Like a hole in the head, Mother Hen.

>I've asked my beloved daughter Keesha
> Love to preach to you in my absence. I see you're treating her
> miserably as usual. Don't you people have any shame?

We'll treat her as human when she learns to speak English.

> Don't you
> realize that there are untold billions of sinners frying in hell right
> now?

Of course there are. Mainly because EVERYONE goes to Hell, and that
includes you!

> I want to share with you this year's list of Halloween do's and
> don'ts. Far too many of you do all the wrong things on this "holiday"

What?
Baking and puree-ing pumpkins for later muffins and cookies?

Honoring the beloved dead by remembering the joy they gave us in life? (The
list is 2 names longer this year.)

Dressing up and saving the Galaxy?


> 1
> DO illuminate your front porch or doorway on Halloween

No problem!

> 2
> DON'T hand out any sugar-loaded candy or snacks, however. Kids can
> easily become addicted to such poisons as Hershey Bars, KitKats, and
> Jujyfruits.

THAT's my problem! Hershey addiction.
Of course I'm not giving the kids chocolate. (I hoard that for for myself
and give them cheap hologram pencils.)


>
> 3
> DO hand out Gospel tracts explaining to children that Halloween is
> fundamentally a Satanic celebration best avoided by True Christians.

Anyone giving my child one of those will have the favor returned:
http://198.182.127.234/~weirdcrap/chick/archive.html

> Chick Publications has a wide variety of 40-page pamphlets addressing
> this issue.

Jack Chick has done more harm to Christianity than the Crusades and the
Extermination of the Indigenous Peoples combined.


> 4
> DON'T let your children dress up as vampires, witches, werewolves,
> extraterrestrials

Do Coirellians, Tatooine Farmboys and Alderaani Princesses count? (Me, I'm
Qui-Mom Jinn as I shepherd this lot) Oldest has opted for Angel over
Shadowrun Rockergirl. (I was looking forward to buidling the
keyboard/guitar/brain-jack)

> Mad scientists and mass murderers are also out,

But we look just like ordinary people...


> 5
> DO make sure your children cover up their tender young flesh on
> Halloween, no matter how warm it is.

Cold and rainy here. Long pants, long sleeves, flight jackets, ponchos,
capes.

> 5
> DON'T allow boys to dress up like girls or vice versa.

Does that mean my Qui-Mom is out?
I'm too tall to be Deepa and too fair to be Adi Galla.

Cross-dressing
> is an abomination in the eyes of God and promotes homosexuality.

Every TV I know is straight...

> A
> lot of stage drag queens got their start when permissive parents
> allowed them to cross-dress one Halloween.

And my husband looked so cute in that Girl Scout uniform too. Drag-queen?
Not in this life.

> Soon the devil convinces
> such children that they really are members of the opposite sex

So that would make me a lesbian?

> 6
> DO consider having a safe and sane Halloween party at your home

Right. I think we'll do the church hayride instead.

>Homosexuals are especially
> active on Halloween night. Most attend Black Masses at which they
> sign the Gay Agenda in their own blood before pouncing on innocent
> children.

ROTFLUICB! Every gay guy I know is going to a bar in costume. Black Mass?
Most of them aren't even Christain, let alone the black side of Christian.


> Many actually lie down and copulate with the devil or his
> priests during these blasphemous occasions.

And you've been reading Isabel Gowdie's sex fantasies again.

Report any evidence of
> Satanic worship, which often involves outdoor orgies and child
> sacrifice, to the police.

Nonsense. The FBI reports there is NO evidence whatsoever of ritual child
sacrifice. The impressive thing that's come to light is that most ritual
abuse survivors are Christian. CRA is recognized by law enforcement.

><Esther's Plea on
> Behalf of Her People.

That's Purim.

Reclaim it as a time to remembered the Christains who have gone before if
you must.


> 8
> DO give your children Gospel tracts to pass out if they go
> trick-or-treating.

Oh, but I never take literature from strangers. So many have tried to close
my mind.

>
> 9
> DON'T forget to inspect every piece of candy that's put in your
> child's bag.

Well that's a gimmee!

Besides, if you don't inspect, how are you going to know which pieces to
confiscate after they fall asleep?

>. Witches and warlocks frequently insert pins and razor blades
> into the most innocuous-looking sweets.

Who needs witches and warlocks when we have ordinary psychos and wackadoos?


> 10
> DO tell improperly dressed children to go back home and put some
> decent clothes on.

No treat w/o a costime.

> Little ghouls with plastic fangs and
> blood-like paint smeared all over their faces should be reminded that
> in many parts of the pagan world people really do eat corpses.

And we eat the body and blood of our God. Taken communion lately, Mother
Hen? If that's not ritual vampiric cannibalism, what is?


> 11
> DON'T watch wicked movies unless you're sure the >evildoers get their
> just deserts in the end.

I only like the old ones with Vincent Price, and he always gets it in the
end. Modern Horror is dreck.

> 11
> DO call the police if your wicked neighbors insist on partying till

> dawn. \\\

The only way I'll know that is if I bump into them on my way to work.

Some of us have lives.

--
Angel
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gmanon

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I don't understand why is so important to celebrate Halloween.
If people want to celebrate anything, why not to invent something less evil
than Halloween for our children's sake.

GManon
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gmanon

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I notice that you, mother Henrietta likes to judge people as if you were a
saint and every body else were sinners
ready to go to hell.

Why this attitude, why not to be more humble?
We don't need you desperately, and we are not your children.

We need Jesus, not you. You are also a sinner as everybody else.
Why don't you preach the Gospel?

GManon

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Joni J Rathbun

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On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, gmanon wrote:

> I don't understand why is so important to celebrate Halloween.
> If people want to celebrate anything, why not to invent something less evil
> than Halloween for our children's sake.

What's the evil part?

Richard Steven Walz

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In article <soPx7.17159$n5.31...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>,

gmanon <gma...@netzero.net> wrote:
>I don't understand why is so important to celebrate Halloween.
>If people want to celebrate anything, why not to invent something less evil
>than Halloween for our children's sake.
>
>GManon
-----------------------------
Go the fuck away you ignorant fundy bigot shit-troll.
Steve


Donna Metler

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"gmanon" <gma...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> I don't understand why is so important to celebrate Halloween.
> If people want to celebrate anything, why not to invent something less
evil
> than Halloween for our children's sake.
>
I don't understand what makes Halloween inherently evil. The historical
background, whether the pagan (in a very broad sense) or Christian one, is
not evil. Rather, it is simply an idea that death is not final. Death is one
of the universal fears. In fact, it is so much so that a lack of fear of
death is considered grounds for possible mental illness. Even martyrs are
not supposed to court death, but only be willing to embrace it in lieu of
the alternative.

What I see Halloween, for most children, is a chance to put their fears out
front and deal with them on a safe area. This year, I notice a LOT more
student interest in Halloween-and I think it is because there are more
real-world fears. So, this is a chance to dispell some of the fantasy fears.

One of the fall limited-pitch activities I do with kids is "Pumpkin Stew"-in
which kids give us different things to "cook" in our stew. Sometimes, this
is halloween oriented, sometimes it is more practical. It depends on the
kids. This year, a lot of my kindergarteners are "Cooking" things like "Mean
people", "Guns", "Witches","Monsters", etc.

As odd is it to agree with Mother Keesha/Henrietta about anything, I do feel
that it is better to have parties and more supervised activities. At least
in my neighborhood, a LOT of kids are unsupervised on Halloween, and this
really does scare me-much more so than the possible evilness of the holiday.
One wouldn't let their elementary age child go out and roam the streets any
other night unsupervised-not because of a fear of devil-worshippers or what
have you, but just because of things like traffic and general childhood
inattentiveness.

Mother Keesha Holloway

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"Charlene" <charlen...@home.com> wrote in message news:<dhwx7.68604$oa2.23...@news2.rdc1.ab.home.com>...

> OH
> MY
> GOD!!!

Girl, you oughta be shamed of youself! Don't you know what the Bible
say? "The Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in
vain" (Deuteronomy 5:11). In you Catholic Bible it even say, "The
Lord will not leave unpunished the man who utters his name to misuse
it" (Jerusalem Bible).

> (NOW I've read it all!)

You ain't read nothing yet, sister! Halloween customs different in
Canada, I know. You all like to burn things this time of year, cause
you also be celebrating the Royal British Guy Fawkes Day early.

You oughta be happy. Mama wrote her sermonette in white English. I
hope you didn't have no trouble understanding a single word.


Praying for your endanger soul,


Mother Keesha Holloway
Woman of God

Mother Keesha Holloway

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"gmanon" <gma...@netzero.net> wrote in message news:<soPx7.17159$n5.31...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...

> I don't understand why is so important to celebrate Halloween.


> If people want to celebrate anything, why not to invent something less evil
> than Halloween for our children's sake.

It certainly ain't "important." The day ain't officially recognize
nowhere and the kids still got to go to school. Even though it's
basically a Scottish custom, celebrating Halloween done become a
American institution. I think instead of avoiding it completely, like
them Jehovah's Witnesses and some other Fundamentalists do, we ought
to re-dedicate it to the Lord. I don't see nothing wrong with kids
dressing up every now and then, as long as they don't glorify no devil
nor his minions -- which include ALL extraterrestrial entities.
Celebrating Halloween the Christian way send a strong message to Satan
and his followers out there (including all of your homosexuals) that
say, "You ain't gonna get the better of us.


Jesus love you,


Mother Keesha Holloway
True Woman of God

P.S. Ain't it a ugly shame how old Charlene done took the Lord's Name
in vain like that? She ain't got no room to tell me I need to pray
for extra guidance or to whiten up my Holy Ministry!

K.

Mother Keesha Holloway

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Dawn Mulliss <dmul...@ohiohills.com> wrote in message news:<3BC6CF1F...@ohiohills.com>...

> Extra-terrestrials aren't supernatural! If life exists anywhere else in


> the universe (which it very likely does, although I certainly don't
> believe they're visiting us in UFOs!), it would be quite *natural*!

God created all the starry heavens as a backdrop for us, the pinnacle
of His Creation. It ain't no life on none of them stars nor planets
up there yet. If we get to Holy Heaven, we allowed to claim certain
parts of outer space as our home. Then we can plant our petunias on
our favorite planet and even have a horse farm if we want one. The
so-call aliens that people see in spacecraft really just demons from
the Pit of Hell come to drag the gullible down to they level in hell.
They part of God's universe, yes, but they ain't part of the natural,
normal world of God's Kingdom. They gonna be toss into the boiling
Lake of Fire soon along with all the people that join they nasty cult.


Praying for you,

Mother Keesha Holloway

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"Shell" <Lady...@arcadia.com> wrote in message news:<rDGx7.9785$CN5.6...@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>...

> We're holding a satanic ritual that evening. Care to join us?

Don't be using my mama's sermonette to recruit people into devil
worship and/or homosexuality. Witches got eight sabbaths eavery year
where they hold orgies and drink bodily fluids (not always blood).
God gonna punish all of you all verrry soon!


Mother Keesha
Saved and Sealed from the Influence of Evil

Mother Keesha Holloway

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"High" <deja...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<daJx7.124323$5A3.37...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>...

> I'm going to dress my three kids as : Jesse Jackson, his mistress, and their
> love child.

I think it's a disgrace for you to remind people of the sins of a man
that done repented. If you do that, the Lord might not be so
understanding about your many sins next time. jesus said, "If ye
forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive
you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your
Father forgive your trespasses" (Matthew 6:14). I know that what
Brother Jesse done did was wrong and a ugly blot on his reputation as
a Man of God, but I also think he done atoned for his sin and receive
God's forgiveness. You should be so lucky!


Prayerfully,


Mother Keesha Holloway
Fountain of Christian Mercy

Shell

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"Mother Keesha Holloway" <kee...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> P.S. Ain't it a ugly shame how old Charlene done took the Lord's Name
> in vain like that? She ain't got no room to tell me I need to pray
> for extra guidance or to whiten up my Holy Ministry!

"Ain't it?" "done took" "Ain't got no?"

This is a joke right?

~Shell


Shell

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"Mother Keesha Holloway" <kee...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> "Shell" <Lady...@arcadia.com> wrote in message
news:<rDGx7.9785$CN5.6...@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>...
>
> > We're holding a satanic ritual that evening. Care to join us?
>
> Don't be using my mama's sermonette to recruit people into devil
> worship and/or homosexuality. Witches got eight sabbaths eavery year
> where they hold orgies and drink bodily fluids (not always blood).
> God gonna punish all of you all verrry soon!
>
>
> Mother Keesha
> Saved and Sealed from the Influence of Evil

Hey man, I was just being polite and inviting you. We'll have a blast
having sex orgies and getting shit faced drunk. But, you didn't have to be
rude about it. sheesh!

Oh and...

What's an "eavery?"

~Shell


observer

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"I don't understand what makes Halloween inherently evil."

It is a celebration that Christianity has been unable to convert into a wholly
Christian event. Christmas, as presently celebrated is equally pagan in
origins, but is considered to be safe because it has been largely co-opted.

doan

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For me, Halloween is evil for the mere fact that kids are supposed to go
to strangers' houses asking for candies. It is dangerous and, according
to Lady Cathy's logic, not necessary. :-) But we are living in a
capitalistic society, so buy some candies and help the economy, will
ya. ;-)

Doan

Skye

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Alright who let the crazies in....


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observer

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"For me, Halloween is evil for the mere fact that kids are supposed to go to
strangers' houses asking for candies."

Not all that long ago, as history goes, Christmas in England was once very much
like Halloween is today. In time, it evolved into a respectable holiday.

As for taking candy from "strangers," all I can say is that we have become a
nation of strangers. Since the Second World War, "strangers" teach our kids in
school, fix our automobiles, prepare our meals in restaurants, fly the airplanes
we take to become "strangers" to other people, and make the laws by which we
have to live.

Dawn Mulliss

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Mother Keesha Holloway wrote:

> Dawn Mulliss <dmul...@ohiohills.com> wrote in message news:<3BC6CF1F...@ohiohills.com>...
>
> > Extra-terrestrials aren't supernatural! If life exists anywhere else in
> > the universe (which it very likely does, although I certainly don't
> > believe they're visiting us in UFOs!), it would be quite *natural*!
>
> God created all the starry heavens as a backdrop for us, the pinnacle
> of His Creation. It ain't no life on none of them stars nor planets
> up there yet.

Well of course there's no life on stars!! And if the heavens were made just for us, why aren't we
in the center??? Why don't we know everything about it yet? You're pretty self-centered.

> If we get to Holy Heaven, we allowed to claim certain
> parts of outer space as our home. Then we can plant our petunias on
> our favorite planet and even have a horse farm if we want one. The
> so-call aliens that people see in spacecraft really just demons from
> the Pit of Hell come to drag the gullible down to they level in hell.
> They part of God's universe, yes, but they ain't part of the natural,
> normal world of God's Kingdom. They gonna be toss into the boiling
> Lake of Fire soon along with all the people that join they nasty cult.

What a ridiculous opinion. But I know you're just spewing this forward to get my goat. You're a
good laugh, though!

Dawn:)

Joni J Rathbun

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I'm curious about just how dangerous it is. OF all the children who go
out on a typical Halloween night, how many are actually the victims of
harm or damage from these strangers? What percentage? I've heard of a
handful of incidents over the many, many years but precious few compared
to the number of children participating. Not that I'm a big fan of
Halloween. I've just never been into it for no particular reason at all,
but I don't believe it has proven to be all that dangerous to trick or
treaters.



Joni J Rathbun

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On 13 Oct 2001, observer wrote:

So if it isn't Christian, it is evil....

No wonder I don't find it evil.


Lord Blackhood der Kether

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I seriously gotta know; is she for real?

Hey, it's not like I got no sense of irony, but I'm well aware that insanely
puritan "mothers" exist.

BdK

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Mother Keesha Holloway

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"Donna Metler" <nospam_...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<hCVx7.18645$Xj1.1...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...

> I don't understand what makes Halloween inherently evil.

In general it's the fact that it tend to be dominated by images of
ghosts, witches, aliens, monsters, and demons. These all part of
Satan's strategy to make kids think it ain't nothing menacing about
the forces of darkness when they actually the masks of Satan.

> The historical background, whether the pagan (in a very broad sense) or
> Christian one, is not evil.

That depend how far back you go. Ages ago your Satanic Druids once
demanded children for child sacrifices on Halloween. These could be
blood sacrifices or just the sexual debauchery common at the
homosexuals' Halloween Black Masses today. These was sometimes called
virgin sacrifices and didn't involve nothing but a good cherry
popping, which still ain't right outside of holy wedlock. Witches and
other devil worshippers done celebrate they new year at this time, and
they have rituals where they initiate new members by having them give
the covenmaster the "kiss of shame" (on they butt!) and sign the
devil's and/or gay agenda in blood. To me, all them things very evil.

> Rather, it is simply an idea that death is not final.

Death ain't final, but reminding people of that with a buncha ghouls
and goblins ain't the right idea. The devil trying to convince people
that hell ain't real, and that not all sinners go there to burn
forever if they die in they sins, when they is. The devil want
sinners to think they can roam the earth as ghosts and avenge wrongs
done to them when in fact they go straight to hell and suffer torment
forever. Apparitions that be describe as ghosts, sprites, and even
aliens all actually demons assuming seductive shapes to give mortals
messages from the Pit. The virtuous go straight to heaven and begin
enjoying they mansions there. They don't got no time for people on
earth. Getting involve in all our problems would just spoil they joy.

> Death is one of the universal fears.

If you right with God, you ain't got nothing to fear in the hereafter.
If you a sinner, you got to repent. Ain't no supernatural entity
gonna help you. Satan actually do turn some people into vampires,
werewolves, and mummies, but they still fundamentally human even if
they full of viruses and other diseases. The devil also want you to
think he real powerful with his little vomiting Linda Blairs. In
truth exorcisms very easy to perform. I personally done cast demons
outa hundreds of kids, and it wasn't never no bloodshed, head
spinning, or green vomit to deal with. Them things may happen in the
Catholic Church where it's still lotta paganism, but not in our True
Holy Church.

> In fact, it is so much so that a lack of fear of death is considered grounds > for possible mental illness. Even martyrs are not supposed to court death,
> but only be willing to embrace it in lieu of the alternative.

That depend on the cause. Martyrdom ain't actually recommended in the
Holy Bible, which say we got to live by the Laws of God, not die
because of them.

> What I see Halloween, for most children, is a chance to put their fears out
> front and deal with them on a safe area.

Most kids ain't got no concept of death. They just like to dress up
and scare people. As long as they don't dress up like nothing evil --
Satan, Dracula, Frankenstein, Darth Vader, Madonna -- it's OK. The
Frankenstein myth tell the scientifically minded that they can create
life and do God's work. That story a affront to God for that reason.
The real Frankenstein story was all about whirlwind romances and a
unwanted love child.

> This year, I notice a LOT more student interest in Halloween-and I think it
> is because there are more real-world fears. So, this is a chance to dispell
> some of the fantasy fears.

It's only one l in "dispel," honeybabe. I hope you ain't teaching
kids to misspell words, in either white or Black English.

> One of the fall limited-pitch activities I do with kids is "Pumpkin Stew"-in
> which kids give us different things to "cook" in our stew. Sometimes, this
> is halloween oriented, sometimes it is more practical. It depends on the
> kids. This year, a lot of my kindergarteners are "Cooking" things like "Mean
> people", "Guns", "Witches","Monsters", etc.

Do they eat what they cook? That don't send the right message. That
sound more like some wicked kinda witches' brew than stone soup.
Cain't you teach them true stories from the Holy Bible about faith,
morals, and fortitude. I know you ain't suppose to bring no True
Religion in those pitiful public schools, but a truly wise teacher
gonna find a way to get the Real Truth in her curriculum somehow,
don't you think?



> As odd is it to agree with Mother Keesha/Henrietta about anything,

Why? Something wrong with me? I speak on God's behalf?

> I do feel that it is better to have parties and more supervised activities.

Specially if you got foreign elements in you neighborhood who don't
fully appreciate American customs. Lotta people live in big cities
where they house child molesters, rapists, dope addicts, homosexuals,
and other criminals they done turn out of the overcrowded prisons.
You don't want you children expose to that kinda freak unless they
securely behind bars.

> At least in my neighborhood, a LOT of kids are unsupervised on Halloween, and > this really does scare me-much more so than the possible evilness of the
> holiday.

That factor one of the things that make Halloween evil.

> One wouldn't let their elementary age child go out and roam the streets any
> other night unsupervised-not because of a fear of devil-worshippers or what
> have you,

Most of the people who want to hurt kids is devil worshippers! They
may say they goddess worshippers or nature worshippers or members of
that filthy Metropolitan (Gay) Community Cult, but behind closed doors
they be invoking the devil and praying to him for power.

> but just because of things like traffic and general childhood
> inattentiveness.

Road rage of the devil too. Cain't nobody slow down and enjoy life
cause they too busy scrounging up all that money, specially your rich
white CEO hogs.


Praying for all of you all's safety this Halloween,
From things that go bump in the night,
And demons that howl blasphemies in the Pit of Hell,


Reverend Mother Keesha Holloway
True Black Ebonic Witness

Persephone48

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<< Little ghouls with plastic fangs and blood-like paint smeared all over
their faces should be reminded that in many parts of the pagan world people
really do eat corpses.>>

*Gets out ritual knife and begins to sharpen it* Hmm...think I've found a
nice yummy troll, wanna be next??????

*Couldn't resist, stupid b!tch assumes far too much about far too many
things* Say, did you know that Buddhists think Christians to be cannibals
since they 'eat' and 'drink' the blood and body of Christ. And honestly....
I think Christians are a bit morbid... the instrument of their saviors death
is a cherished symbol of their religion. So if Christ got killed by gun,
would you all cherish that?


Cindy Kandolf

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Joni J Rathbun <jrat...@orednet.org> writes:
| I'm curious about just how dangerous it is. OF all the children who go
| out on a typical Halloween night, how many are actually the victims of
| harm or damage from these strangers? What percentage?

Close enough to 0% to be statistically insignificant - at least for
the US, and i've found nothing to indicate that the situation is
different in other countries that have (or have recently picked up)
the trick-or-treating tradition. In the United States:

No child has ever been killed by tampered trick-or-treat goodies given
to them by a stranger.

No child has ever been seriously injured or made seriously ill by
tampered trick-or-treat goodies given to them by a stranger.

There are certainly reports, now and then, of tampered treats, a
straight pin hidden in a chocolate bar for example. Nobody has ever
been killed by such a treat; in fact there are only a few reliable
reports of injuries, all of them minor. Many times the tampering was
done by the child him/herself, or a sibling or friend, intending to
scare someone or get some attention.

Stories of sadists and madmen trying to hurt little kids on Halloween
have been around since at least the 1940s. That's right: these
stories are now in their third generation. They're no more true today
than they were when we were kids, and felt safe trick-or-treating.

The biggest danger to children out trick-or-treating on Halloween
night is an everyday danger - automobiles!

Here are two websites with more information:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/hallowee.htm
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.htm

Hoping everyone who celebrates it has a safe and fun Halloween,
- Cindy Kandolf, mamma to Kenneth (7) and Robby (1)
thefl...@ivillage.com ** Bærum, Norway
Bilingual Families Web Page:
http://www.nethelp.no/cindy/biling-fam.html

observer

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Oct 14, 2001, 10:56:31 AM10/14/01
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"OF all the children who go out on a typical Halloween night, how many are
actually the victims of harm or damage from these strangers?"

Interesting parallel: How many children get injured by Christmas gifts and at
Christmas celebrations?

Joni J Rathbun

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Well, my infant (crawler) son nearly choked to death on a sequin attached
to a Christmas package under the tree several years ago.... My Heimlich
training came in very handy. And his bikes, which have resulted in more
than one trip to the ER for stitches and broken bones and dangling, uhm,
elbows, were Christmas gifts. Yes, he wears a helmet (and pads now),
otherwise my story would probably be much more grim.


Banty

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In article <btejstcrphua0qcp5...@4ax.com>, toto says...

>Adding here an article published in the Chicago Tribune on the
>subject
>
>http://www.stats.org/statswork/halloween_chicagotrib.htm
>

>:>
>:>So why do we persist in scaring ourselves this way? Strangely enough, the
>:>reason may lie in how safe our society is for our children. If our children
>are
>:>not subjected to the real horrors of disease, starvation and war that have
>:>been major worries for parents throughout history, we still feel a need to
>:>protect them from something. The figure of the murderous candy-poisoner
>:>fills the vacuum very well. But, in protecting children from an unproven
>:>threat, parents may not just be taking some of the fun out of childhood but
>:>also raising children in an atmosphere of paranoia, which cannot be good for
>:>them.

That could be part of it. But real dangers of automobile travel, etc., would
argue against the seizure of supposed Halloween dangers in the minds of some for
this reason.

IMO, it's a combination of the fears of those who basically don't trust any
stranger in this fragmented society or even have ever met the neighbors whom
their children are visiting, and the efforts of fundamentalist Christians to
discredit Halloween in an effort to diminish and possibly remove the festival
from American life. Not that the latter are necessarily aware of the untruth of
the reports.

Banty

observer

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" . . . my infant (crawler) son nearly choked to death on a sequin attached to a

Christmas package under the tree several years ago.... My Heimlich training came
in very handy. And his bikes, which have resulted in more than one trip to the
ER for stitches and broken bones and dangling, uhm, elbows, were Christmas
gifts. Yes, he wears a helmet (and pads now), otherwise my story would probably
be much more grim."

Christmas seems loaded with de facto booby traps. Some can be quite deadly.

I can remember, many years ago now, when houses were still being burned down by
candle-lit Christmas trees.

But, sometimes, presents and their wrappings seem to be the worst culprits.

Trust that you kid will outgrow his misadventures on his bike. Even at my age,
I still enjoy riding. And everyone in our family, who is old enough, has one.
Helmets and pads aren't bad ideas either.

Banty

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In article <kjpjstsqbqj0rt07s...@4ax.com>, toto says...
>
>On 14 Oct 2001 10:21:37 -0700, Banty <Banty_...@newsguy.com>
>wrote:

>
>>In article <btejstcrphua0qcp5...@4ax.com>, toto says...
>>
>>>Adding here an article published in the Chicago Tribune on the
>>>subject
>>>
>>>http://www.stats.org/statswork/halloween_chicagotrib.htm
>>>
>>
>>>:>
>>>:>So why do we persist in scaring ourselves this way? Strangely enough, the
>>>:>reason may lie in how safe our society is for our children. If our children
>>>:>are not subjected to the real horrors of disease, starvation and war that have
>>>:>been major worries for parents throughout history, we still feel a need to
>>>:>protect them from something. The figure of the murderous candy-poisoner
>>>:>fills the vacuum very well. But, in protecting children from an unproven
>>>:>threat, parents may not just be taking some of the fun out of childhood but
>>>:>also raising children in an atmosphere of paranoia, which cannot be good for
>>>:>them.
>>
>>That could be part of it. But real dangers of automobile travel, etc., would
>>argue against the seizure of supposed Halloween dangers in the minds of
>>some for this reason.
>>
>>IMO, it's a combination of the fears of those who basically don't trust any
>>stranger in this fragmented society or even have ever met the neighbors whom
>>their children are visiting,
>
>Can it also be that we do not want to admit that the dangers to our
>children are much closer to home? Child abuse occurs within
>families and with trusted adults who are caregivers in various
>situations.. It is rarely a stranger who abuses the child.

I don't think the fears surrounding Halloween invoke kids being groped in
bushes. I think it centers more on crazies plowing cars into them, or putting
razors in apples, or young children supposedly being psychologically scarred by
the appearances of some costumes, etc. Have you heard any aprocryphal stories
(urban legends) of Halloween featuring abuse??

Banty

Shell

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"toto" <nobo...@ozxx.com> wrote in message
news:0m5ists42phtt0kne...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:03:18 +0800, "Lord Blackhood der Kether"
> <sku...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>
> >I seriously gotta know; is she for real?
> >
> >Hey, it's not like I got no sense of irony, but I'm well aware that
insanely
> >puritan "mothers" exist.
> >
> >BdK
> >
> No she is not even a she. She's a guy named Max Varazlo and a
> well-known troll on apsolutions. Outed in 1998.

HAHAHAHA.. This "mother" has a penis?

hahahhaha..

Stupid little troll.

~Shell


High

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Or by the family pet?


"observer" <observe...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:9qc92...@drn.newsguy.com...

observer

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"Or by the family pet?"

Among other things, it really is amazing the number of very young kids whose
eyes are damaged by playful kittens.

Jim

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toto wrote:

>Abuse takes many forms, it doesn't have to be sexual.. Note that
>the story in the Chicago Trib actually had a parent who poisoned his
>own child. If these are not child abuse, then my definition of
>abuse must be different from yours.

lol. Do you really think we might find someone who doesn't believe
child poisoning is abuse? Perhaps it's the parent of a child who can
only be poisoned by Halloween candy?

Or perhaps you've brutally misread a thread?

--
Jim

Shell

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"toto" <nobo...@ozxx.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:58:17 GMT, "Shell" <Lady...@arcadia.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> Shell,
>
> Check your hotmail acct for the full story on this guy
> Also for updates on our mutual friend if you haven't
> seen them already
>
> Dorothy

I did see them. Thank you for forwarding those on. :-)

~Shell


Mother Keesha Holloway

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"Shell" <Lady...@arcadia.com> wrote in message news:<Jwqy7.10635$CN5.7...@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>...

> "toto" <nobo...@ozxx.com> wrote in message
> news:0m5ists42phtt0kne...@4ax.com...

> > No she is not even a she. She's a guy named Max Varazlo and a


> > well-known troll on apsolutions. Outed in 1998.

And Dorothy must believe every other rumor and LIE she ever heard. I
am Mother Keesha. I never knew Max other than to say hi to him. He
was a old white Jew who stunk to high heaven with smegma odor. He
worked for my mama. We both real people. Just look at my webpage to
see I ain't no man with no thang hanging between my legs.

http://www.geocities.com/keshaluv/index.html



> HAHAHAHA.. This "mother" has a penis?

You sick! You both need to lift you filthy mind outa the gutter and
give it a good hard scrubbing.


The One, the Only, the True, and the Real
Mother Keesha Hickey Holloway
TRUE Woman of God and Black Messinic Jewette

Jim

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"Mother Keesha Holloway" <kee...@my-deja.com> wrote in message

> Jesus love you,

And if you don't love Him back, he'll send your ass STRAIGHT TO HELL!


--
Jim

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