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Trace

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Nov 6, 2008, 1:31:48 AM11/6/08
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Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!

Oh well!

Too bad!

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 6, 2008, 5:57:47 AM11/6/08
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"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Homophobe.

Boston Blackie

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Nov 6, 2008, 7:58:04 AM11/6/08
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Well I guess your marriage is safe now, isn't it?
--
Remember, melanin-challenged boys: I don't cross post as much as you
do, and so when I respond to your blather the first newsgroup I snip is
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh. If you would, please copy my response to your
post and send it to El Rushball directly, so he will keep you in his
list of who's nice. Thank you for your time and attention.

duke

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Nov 6, 2008, 8:13:33 AM11/6/08
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God only has tears for practicing queers.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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Frogbutt

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Nov 6, 2008, 9:28:12 AM11/6/08
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Trace <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:8660d540-cd75-4046-9c69-
29ab69...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com:

Don't worry. You're safe until they ban human-goat marriage.

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 6, 2008, 11:25:36 AM11/6/08
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Frogbutt <fr...@mccain.is.a.loser.org> wrote during shock
treatments....

Marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. That implies
a human man and a human woman. Proposition 8 does not endorse
bestiality. That means you cannot marry your gerbil.
-


"Some have called me dirty capitalist, but I've merely
used the imagination and common sense and energy that
kind Providence gave me."
-Oliver Warbucks

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 6, 2008, 11:25:43 AM11/6/08
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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....

What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
and woman?

Who's afraid of the big bad queer?

Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!

Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.

Trace

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Nov 6, 2008, 11:53:32 AM11/6/08
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Yes the Bible clearly defines homosexuality as wrong behavior. Is
there a single society on earth that endorses homosexuality?

Human anatomy alone shows us that homosexuality is a mental disorder
and a perversion.

Does the rectum become moist in anticipation?

Thats why they call themselves "queers". They know they are odd.

George Grapman

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Nov 6, 2008, 11:54:59 AM11/6/08
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Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>
>
>> "Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>
>>> Oh well!
>>>
>>> Too bad!
>>>
>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>> Homophobe.
>
> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
> and woman?
>
> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>
> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>
> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.


I have no problem id Larry Craig wants to marry Mark Foley.
>
>
> -

Boston Blackie

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Nov 6, 2008, 1:37:41 PM11/6/08
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On 2008-11-06 10:25:43 -0600, Barry the Bolshevik <Wel...@Giveaway.com> said:

> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>
>
>>
>> "Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>
>>> Oh well!
>>>
>>> Too bad!
>>>
>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>
>> Homophobe.
>
> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
> and woman?

It's discrimination based on gender.

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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Nov 6, 2008, 2:18:41 PM11/6/08
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On Nov 6, 8:13 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:57:47 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Trace" <tracey12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> >> Woops!  Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>
> >> Oh well!
>
> >> Too bad!
>
> >> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>
> >Homophobe.
>
> God only has tears for practicing queers.
>


Still more than He gives folks like Duke...


Paul

PV

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Nov 6, 2008, 4:14:34 PM11/6/08
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Trace wrote:
> Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>
>>>> Oh well!
>>>>
>>>> Too bad!
>>>>
>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>
>>> Homophobe.
>>
>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>> and woman?
>>
>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>
>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>
>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> "Some have called me dirty capitalist, but I've merely
>> used the imagination and common sense and energy that
>> kind Providence gave me."
>> -Oliver Warbucks
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes the Bible clearly defines homosexuality as wrong behavior. Is
> there a single society on earth that endorses homosexuality?

Actually since the word "homosexual" did not exist until the 1800's, where
in the bible do you find the word homosexual?

Not to rain on your homophobic diatribe but Canada extended equal rights to
Gays and Lesbians last year including marriage.

You have heard of Canada haven't you? Your biggest trading partner and your
one remaining politically stable source of oil? That big chunk of land
north of the 49th parallel.

<snip happens>


--
PV

Do not compute the totality of your poultry population before the
manifestations of incubation have ceased.

William Jennings Bryant


Seon Ferguson

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Nov 6, 2008, 6:20:24 PM11/6/08
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:57:47 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>
>>> Oh well!
>>>
>>> Too bad!
>>>
>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>
>>Homophobe.
>
> God only has tears for practicing queers.
>
God doesn't give a crap. He gave us free will to live our lives however we
want and he loves us for who we are. It's about time you Religious kooks
realised that. When Jesus told us to love thy neighbour he didn't make any
exceptions.

Seon Ferguson

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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>
>
>>
>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>
>>> Oh well!
>>>
>>> Too bad!
>>>
>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>
>>Homophobe.
>
> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
> and woman?
>
You have no right to dictate what "marriage" or love is. Marriage is between
two human beings who love each other. No one has a right to dictate how
another person can ro can't live there lives.

> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>

You and anyone who hates gay people.

> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>

Dontcha know that Religious ignorance is so icky and that you have no right
to tell another person what they can or can't do?

> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>
>

So why are you so afraid of it?

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 6, 2008, 6:23:01 PM11/6/08
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"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>
>>
>> >
>> >"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>> >> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>> >>
>> >> Oh well!
>> >>
>> >> Too bad!
>> >>
>> >> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>> >
>> >Homophobe.
>>
>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>> and woman?
>>
>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>
>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>
>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> "Some have called me dirty capitalist, but I've merely
>> used the imagination and common sense and energy that
>> kind Providence gave me."
>> -Oliver Warbucks
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes the Bible clearly defines homosexuality as wrong behavior. Is
> there a single society on earth that endorses homosexuality?
>
Please give us a passage where the Bible says homosexuality and Lesbianism
is a sin.

> Human anatomy alone shows us that homosexuality is a mental disorder
> and a perversion.
>
> Does the rectum become moist in anticipation?
>
> Thats why they call themselves "queers". They know they are odd.

You won't be satasfied until America treats gay people the way the Muslim
jihadists do which is why I call you a Christian jihadist.

Trace

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Nov 7, 2008, 4:25:16 AM11/7/08
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On Nov 6, 5:23 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Trace" <tracey12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:a42333bf-536b-4d06...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
> >> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>
> >> >"Trace" <tracey12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Homosexuality in the Bible

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-- Leviticus 18:22

Seon Ferguson

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"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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How are you any different than a Muslim terrorist who stones gay people to
death?
And the Bible is a book of made up myths to frighten ignorant people like
you. Thankyou for waking me up to that fact.


Lars Eighner

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Nov 7, 2008, 7:17:57 AM11/7/08
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In our last episode,
<f1ee035e-a2df-4aac...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented Trace broadcast on houston.general:

> Homosexuality in the Bible

> Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
> -- Leviticus 18:22

As I have explained to you before, this is about bisexuality, not
homosexuality. No homosexual (male) lies with a man as with a woman.
If he lies with a woman, nothing happens. If he lies with a man, they have
sex. See the difference? He doesn't lie with a man as with a woman.

--
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John Brown's body lies a-mouldering in the grave:
But his truth is marching on!

Boston Blackie

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Nov 7, 2008, 7:24:10 AM11/7/08
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The real point is that there's more than one of us in this country who
think a set of books of uncertain pedigree are not "truth" and
certainly should not dictate public policy.

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 7, 2008, 9:38:07 AM11/7/08
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You live by the Bible. Why is it so important to you. Even though the
Canadian Human Rights Commission have constantly tried to use its
Orwellian tactics against Christian free speech, the CHRC defends the
Canadian Islamic Congress and tries to suppress the free speech by a
Conservative columnist.

>And the Bible is a book of made up myths to frighten ignorant people like
>you. Thankyou for waking me up to that fact.
>

Don't read the Bible or it is a book you'd wish the Canadian Human
Rights Commission burn?

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 7, 2008, 9:38:06 AM11/7/08
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"PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote during shock treatments....


>Trace wrote:
>> Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>>
>>>> Homophobe.
>>>
>>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>>> and woman?
>>>
>>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>>
>>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>>
>>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>> "Some have called me dirty capitalist, but I've merely
>>> used the imagination and common sense and energy that
>>> kind Providence gave me."
>>> -Oliver Warbucks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes the Bible clearly defines homosexuality as wrong behavior. Is
>> there a single society on earth that endorses homosexuality?
>
>Actually since the word "homosexual" did not exist until the 1800's, where
>in the bible do you find the word homosexual?

Are you saying homosexuals did not exist prior to the 1800's?

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is an
abomination."
(Leviticus 18:22)

The Bible speaks in metaphors. The above passage clearly relates to
homosexuals.

>
>Not to rain on your homophobic diatribe but Canada extended equal rights to
>Gays and Lesbians last year including marriage.

If Canada does it, it's good. Explain. In the United States we have
legal unions. Why do we have to redefine marriage?
This is the same country that attempted to prosecute Conservative
columnist Mark Steyn by the Canadian Human Rights Commission while
kowtowing to the Canadian Islamic Conference.


>
>You have heard of Canada haven't you? Your biggest trading partner and your
>one remaining politically stable source of oil? That big chunk of land
>north of the 49th parallel.
>

So Canada is partly responsible for gouging the US with high oil
prices, some trading partner.

Barry the Bolshevik

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....


>
>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>news:4u56h45d2sq8leao3...@4ax.com...
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>
>>>> Oh well!
>>>>
>>>> Too bad!
>>>>
>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>
>>>Homophobe.
>>
>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>> and woman?
>>
>You have no right to dictate what "marriage" or love is. Marriage is between
>two human beings who love each other. No one has a right to dictate how
>another person can ro can't live there lives.

Do I not have the right to free speech? If a queer couple wants to
co-habitate, I have no issue with it.


>
>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>
>You and anyone who hates gay people.

They're called homosexuals. Who are you to redefine the word 'gay'?


>
>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>
>Dontcha know that Religious ignorance is so icky and that you have no right
>to tell another person what they can or can't do?

IF that's the case, why did you bring up the Bible in your post?


>
>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>
>>
>So why are you so afraid of it?

I'm not afraid of it, just disgusted by overt expressions of the
sexual deviancy. Stay in the closet, Queer Boy, there would be no
problem. Sodom and Gomorrah has been replaced by West Hollywood and
the Castro District.

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 7, 2008, 9:38:08 AM11/7/08
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George Grapman <sfgeorge.@pacbell.net> wrote during shock
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Of course you wouldn't mind. All you fudge packers stick together.

The Chief Instigator

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Fortunately, the Wholly Babble isn't the law of the land. (So says this
atheist.)

--
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www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 4, Houston 3 (November 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 7 at Hamilton, 6:35

George Grapman

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It also says you shall not eat pork products,have milk with meat or
wear clothes made of different fabrics. Wonder if the poster follows
those rules.

duke

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:20:24 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:nar5h41hectq6jpki...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:57:47 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>
>>>> Oh well!
>>>>
>>>> Too bad!
>>>>
>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>
>>>Homophobe.
>>
>> God only has tears for practicing queers.

>God doesn't give a crap. He gave us free will to live our lives however we
>want and he loves us for who we are.

Right, as he signs your deportation ticket to hell.

> It's about time you Religious kooks
>realised that. When Jesus told us to love thy neighbour he didn't make any
>exceptions.

But he did say that the only thing left for the willful sinner is the fires of
hell.

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 7, 2008, 1:01:20 PM11/7/08
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No kidding...I've yet to see someone sent to hell for eating a cheeseburger
(or hitting the buffet at Cici's). ;-)

>> Fortunately, the Wholly Babble isn't the law of the land. (So says this
>> atheist.)

--

Seon Ferguson

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:20:24 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:nar5h41hectq6jpki...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:57:47 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>>
>>>>Homophobe.
>>>
>>> God only has tears for practicing queers.
>
>>God doesn't give a crap. He gave us free will to live our lives however we
>>want and he loves us for who we are.
>
> Right, as he signs your deportation ticket to hell.
>
Hell doesn't exist and even if it did I know for a fact our soles, true
selves, can't feel any painw hatsoever so your ignorance doesn't affect me.

>> It's about time you Religious kooks
>>realised that. When Jesus told us to love thy neighbour he didn't make any
>>exceptions.
>
> But he did say that the only thing left for the willful sinner is the
> fires of
> hell.
>
>

Even if hell existed that doesn't mean we should hate the "sinner" (sin
doesn't exist by the way) he also (allegedly) said judge not let ye be
judged. Have you read the parable of the unforgiving servent?

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 7, 2008, 5:33:24 PM11/7/08
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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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You sound like a bit of a kook but I will try to reply anyway. Calling for
homosexuals to be killed or oppressed is not free speech.

>>And the Bible is a book of made up myths to frighten ignorant people like
>>you. Thankyou for waking me up to that fact.
>>
> Don't read the Bible or it is a book you'd wish the Canadian Human
> Rights Commission burn?
> -
>
>

No it's a book I use for toilet paper.

Seon Ferguson

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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>
>
>>
>>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>>news:4u56h45d2sq8leao3...@4ax.com...
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>>
>>>>Homophobe.
>>>
>>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>>> and woman?
>>>
>>You have no right to dictate what "marriage" or love is. Marriage is
>>between
>>two human beings who love each other. No one has a right to dictate how
>>another person can ro can't live there lives.
>
> Do I not have the right to free speech? If a queer couple wants to
> co-habitate, I have no issue with it.
>>
But you think you have the right to dictate what a marriage can be?

>>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>>
>>You and anyone who hates gay people.
>
> They're called homosexuals. Who are you to redefine the word 'gay'?
>>
>>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>>
>>Dontcha know that Religious ignorance is so icky and that you have no
>>right
>>to tell another person what they can or can't do?
>
> IF that's the case, why did you bring up the Bible in your post?
>>

Trace did.

>>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>>
>>>

That's your opinion.

>>So why are you so afraid of it?
>
> I'm not afraid of it, just disgusted by overt expressions of the
> sexual deviancy. Stay in the closet, Queer Boy, there would be no
> problem. Sodom and Gomorrah has been replaced by West Hollywood and
> the Castro District.
> -
>

I'm not the one who is afraid of gay people. I wonder why you are so
scared...

Trace

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Nov 7, 2008, 6:03:57 PM11/7/08
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On Nov 6, 3:14 pm, "PV" <edru...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote:
> Trace wrote:
> > Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
> >> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>
> >>> "Trace" <tracey12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

So what the socialist government endorses is what Canadians support?
Really? If the Canook government changes a law, suddenly Canadians
will change their opinions too?

Here is what I said. I don't think that sudden law changes by the
canadian government means that the society in Canada encourages
homosexuality or homosexual marriage.

Trace

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Nov 7, 2008, 6:09:20 PM11/7/08
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On Nov 7, 10:55 am, George Grapman <sfgeor...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> The Chief Instigator wrote:


So it is your opinion that the Bible is without merit and we should
simply burn them all?

Its funny how the left is so afraid of Christians, the BIble, and
references to God. Could it be all the guilt they suffer from while
living the "gay" lifestyle?

Boston Blackie

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Nov 7, 2008, 6:19:25 PM11/7/08
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Is there a single society on earth that endorses smoking tobacco?

Boston Blackie

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Nov 7, 2008, 6:20:16 PM11/7/08
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Oh c'mon, don't be so coy. We all know why he's afraid of gays.

Seon Ferguson

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"Boston Blackie (I didn't think a lot, but I pulled my gun)"
<clicklackie@BLAM!mail.com> wrote in message
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Yep and so does he. He's just afraid to admit it so he calls other people
gay. Trouble with that is I am to comfy in my sexuality to let some stranger
I have never even meet threaten it.

duke

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On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:31:49 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> God only has tears for practicing queers.
>>>God doesn't give a crap. He gave us free will to live our lives however we
>>>want and he loves us for who we are.
>> Right, as he signs your deportation ticket to hell.

>Hell doesn't exist and even if it did I know for a fact our soles, true
>selves, can't feel any painw hatsoever so your ignorance doesn't affect me.

You know, I have stated for years that I believe/suspect that hell is a very
cold place, a place with no love what so ever - no love of God, no love of self,
no love of family, no love of animal or thing, no love whatsoever - period. Just
aimless wandering for all eternity.

>>> It's about time you Religious kooks
>>>realised that. When Jesus told us to love thy neighbour he didn't make any
>>>exceptions.

>> But he did say that the only thing left for the willful sinner is the
>> fires of
>> hell.

>Even if hell existed that doesn't mean we should hate the "sinner" (sin
>doesn't exist by the way) he also (allegedly) said judge not let ye be
>judged. Have you read the parable of the unforgiving servent?

We shouldn't hate at all. If one announces in this lifetime by the way you act
that he wants nothing to do with God, he will grant you your desire for all
eternity.

We are called not to judge, but to admonish. Good luck with your aimless
wanderings.

Barry the Bolshevik

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....


>
>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>news:eaj8h411vfg41aolo...@4ax.com...
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4u56h45d2sq8leao3...@4ax.com...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too bad!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>>>
>>>>>Homophobe.
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>>>> and woman?
>>>>
>>>You have no right to dictate what "marriage" or love is. Marriage is
>>>between
>>>two human beings who love each other. No one has a right to dictate how
>>>another person can ro can't live there lives.
>>
>> Do I not have the right to free speech? If a queer couple wants to
>> co-habitate, I have no issue with it.
>>>
>But you think you have the right to dictate what a marriage can be?

Marriage is defined as a union between and man and a woman. What gives
the right of a deviant community to change that fact?

>
>>>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>>>
>>>You and anyone who hates gay people.
>>
>> They're called homosexuals. Who are you to redefine the word 'gay'?
>>>
>>>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>>>
>>>Dontcha know that Religious ignorance is so icky and that you have no
>>>right
>>>to tell another person what they can or can't do?
>>
>> IF that's the case, why did you bring up the Bible in your post?
>>>
>Trace did.
>
>>>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>>>
>>>>
>That's your opinion.

It's a fact. Sexual deviation is a relationship atypical to the norm.
Since declared homosexuals account for 3% of the population means that
being a homosexual is abnormal.

>
>>>So why are you so afraid of it?
>>
>> I'm not afraid of it, just disgusted by overt expressions of the
>> sexual deviancy. Stay in the closet, Queer Boy, there would be no
>> problem. Sodom and Gomorrah has been replaced by West Hollywood and
>> the Castro District.
>> -
>>
>I'm not the one who is afraid of gay people. I wonder why you are so
>scared...

What do you think homophobe means? It means fear of queers. There's no
fear a queers here, just disgust of abnormal behavior.
-

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 8, 2008, 10:07:47 AM11/8/08
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Who's calling for homosexuals to be killed?

>
>>>And the Bible is a book of made up myths to frighten ignorant people like
>>>you. Thankyou for waking me up to that fact.
>>>
>> Don't read the Bible or it is a book you'd wish the Canadian Human
>> Rights Commission burn?
>> -
>>
>>
>No it's a book I use for toilet paper.

You must love those ink stains on your ass amongst other stains.

Boston Blackie

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On 2008-11-08 09:07:48 -0600, Barry the Bolshevik
<Wel...@Giveaway.com> said:•"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote

Nope, when it's manifested in constant carping about the evils of
Ho-Mo-SEX-uality, it's more: <http://tinyurl.com/NOTtheHOMO>
--
http://tinyurl.com/5v6rm8

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 8, 2008, 4:59:15 PM11/8/08
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:31:49 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> God only has tears for practicing queers.
>>>>God doesn't give a crap. He gave us free will to live our lives however
>>>>we
>>>>want and he loves us for who we are.
>>> Right, as he signs your deportation ticket to hell.
>
>>Hell doesn't exist and even if it did I know for a fact our soles, true
>>selves, can't feel any painw hatsoever so your ignorance doesn't affect
>>me.
>
> You know, I have stated for years that I believe/suspect that hell is a
> very
> cold place, a place with no love what so ever - no love of God, no love of
> self,
> no love of family, no love of animal or thing, no love whatsoever -
> period. Just
> aimless wandering for all eternity.
>
That's not what the Bible says. Well I don't believe in any Rleigious dogma.
The kind that says if you don't believe in this paricular faith that can't
be proven you will go to a place when "believers" will go to heaven. Nah
that is not for me.

>>>> It's about time you Religious kooks
>>>>realised that. When Jesus told us to love thy neighbour he didn't make
>>>>any
>>>>exceptions.
>
>>> But he did say that the only thing left for the willful sinner is the
>>> fires of
>>> hell.
>
>>Even if hell existed that doesn't mean we should hate the "sinner" (sin
>>doesn't exist by the way) he also (allegedly) said judge not let ye be
>>judged. Have you read the parable of the unforgiving servent?
>
> We shouldn't hate at all. If one announces in this lifetime by the way
> you act
> that he wants nothing to do with God, he will grant you your desire for
> all
> eternity.
>
> We are called not to judge, but to admonish. Good luck with your aimless
> wanderings.
>

At least when I wonder aimlesly I can think for myself. But oh well at least
you admit we aren't here to judge. If sin was real then I don't think a
"sinener" would have the right to judge another "sinner" because they are
not perfect, only God is.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 8, 2008, 5:00:27 PM11/8/08
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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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Trace. he loves posting the passage that says any man that lies with another
should be put to death.

>>>>And the Bible is a book of made up myths to frighten ignorant people
>>>>like
>>>>you. Thankyou for waking me up to that fact.
>>>>
>>> Don't read the Bible or it is a book you'd wish the Canadian Human
>>> Rights Commission burn?
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>No it's a book I use for toilet paper.
>
> You must love those ink stains on your ass amongst other stains.
> -
>
>

Holly ink actually makes those stains holly.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 8, 2008, 5:01:13 PM11/8/08
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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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You sound pretty afraid to me. If you weren't you wouldn't care like me.

Bill M

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Obvious evidence. There are hundreds of different gods and religions. Why
would any real god not inform his creations he is the real god and all the
others are fakes!

Why would any REAL GOD permit his creations to be so misled and confused by
all these false gods?

It is obvious. There are NO REAL GODS. They are all figments of man's
imagination!

No sane member of this 7 BILLION humans on this earth has ever seen or heard
any word from any God because they only exist in peoples imaginations!

Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven. Science is things
seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.

There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of religionists.
These beliefs are held resolutely

to help people deal with their panic fear of death and what comes after.

When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
is logical to assume it does no exist. The LACK of evidence is not evidence
of something's existence.

The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (thousands of them!)


Jim Higgins

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Nov 8, 2008, 8:19:05 PM11/8/08
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Psalm 14:1

--
Civis Romanus Sum

Billzz

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"Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I do not know what this is doing in alt.military.retired, and I do not know
why I would respond to such an obvious confrontative argument, but here's
something to consider...

Before I start I should say that I was raised in a "mixed" religious
marriage, and so I learned to go to Catholic Mass, said in Latin (Archbishop
Cushing would have no English in his Irish-Catholic church) and I also went
to Jewish services, in Hebrew. Later I took the Huston Smith course in
"Man's religions" still being taught as "World's religions." And so
naturally I married a Protestant, with an army (Lutheran) minister
presiding. We switched to Episcopalian because their liturgy includes
readings from both the old and new testaments, thereby we can honor our
fathers and our mothers. Along the way I've been into Cao Dai and Buddhist
temples, Islamic mosques, all the standard religious tourist stuff. The
Holy Sepulchre, Bethleham, The Gallilee, the last synagogue in Cairo, and so
on.

So I learned that humans have an almost insatiable need for trying to
understand that which is not understandable. All peoples, that I know (and
I've been to America, Europe, the near and the far east) have come up with
the notion of God and a system of prayers. Why do all these disparate
peoples have the same approach to God - if there is no God?

If I had the answer to that question I could write a really best-selling
book. But I don't have the answer. All I know is that humanity is fragile,
and that people of good will try to help other people. And if they make
something up to help that person it is not because they care about science,
or proof, or any theory. They care about people.

You go into a church and in the front row an old lady is weeping. She prays
that her recently deceased husband has gone to heaven, and she prays that
she herself can go soon also, and they can be togehter again.

What do you say? If you are human, you help.


Boston Blackie

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Nov 8, 2008, 10:21:38 PM11/8/08
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On 2008-11-08 19:19:05 -0600, Jim Higgins <gordi...@hotmail.com> said:

> Psalm 14:1

Written by whom?

Boston Blackie

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Nov 8, 2008, 10:22:15 PM11/8/08
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On 2008-11-08 14:03:30 -0600, "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> said:

> Why would any REAL GOD permit his creations to be so misled and confused by
> all these false gods?

On account of as how the RealGod(tm) wants his believers to trust him
no matter what, and they can only do it by faith. But first they have
to pick a god in which to have faith and hope (to god) that the picked
right.

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 9, 2008, 9:34:36 AM11/9/08
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Detail my fears. This ought to be interesting. You're afraid of the
truth. The fear of homosexuals being told they are out of the
mainstream of normal behavior.

-

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 9, 2008, 9:34:35 AM11/9/08
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Just one example? You obviously can't do better than that.

>
>>>>>And the Bible is a book of made up myths to frighten ignorant people
>>>>>like
>>>>>you. Thankyou for waking me up to that fact.
>>>>>
>>>> Don't read the Bible or it is a book you'd wish the Canadian Human
>>>> Rights Commission burn?
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>No it's a book I use for toilet paper.
>>
>> You must love those ink stains on your ass amongst other stains.
>> -
>>
>>
>Holly ink actually makes those stains holly.

What the hell are you talking about?

Gill Smith

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Nov 9, 2008, 9:53:00 AM11/9/08
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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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> "PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote during shock treatments....

> If Canada does it, it's good. Explain. In the United States we have
> legal unions. Why do we have to redefine marriage?
> This is the same country that attempted to prosecute Conservative
> columnist Mark Steyn

Really? I remember when he started out, on the BBC.


--
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PV

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Nov 9, 2008, 11:27:39 PM11/9/08
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Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
> "PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote during shock treatments....
>
>
>> Trace wrote:
>>> Barry the Bolshevik wrote:
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too bad!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>>>
>>>>> Homophobe.
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>>>> and woman?
>>>>
>>>> Who's afraid of the big bad queer?
>>>>
>>>> Dontcha know that same sex marriage is so icky? Ewww!
>>>>
>>>> Homosexuality is still a sexual deviation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Some have called me dirty capitalist, but I've merely
>>>> used the imagination and common sense and energy that
>>>> kind Providence gave me."
>>>> -Oliver Warbucks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes the Bible clearly defines homosexuality as wrong behavior. Is
>>> there a single society on earth that endorses homosexuality?
>>
>> Actually since the word "homosexual" did not exist until the 1800's,
>> where in the bible do you find the word homosexual?
>
> Are you saying homosexuals did not exist prior to the 1800's?
>

Nope the word did no exist, which is exactly what I said, if does not exist
in attic greek, so how does it appear in recent translations of the bible?

> "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is an
> abomination."
> (Leviticus 18:22)
>

Wow out of some 32,000 verses you snip out two lines with no context
historical or otherwise and declare what it means? Biblical scholors
looking at the entire chapter believe it is referring to the worship of Baal
and the sexual rites performed in the temple to bring about fertility.


> The Bible speaks in metaphors. The above passage clearly relates to
> homosexuals.


>
>>
>> Not to rain on your homophobic diatribe but Canada extended equal rights
>> to Gays and Lesbians last year including marriage.
>

> If Canada does it, it's good. Explain. In the United States we have
> legal unions. Why do we have to redefine marriage?
> This is the same country that attempted to prosecute Conservative

> columnist Mark Steyn by the Canadian Human Rights Commission while
> kowtowing to the Canadian Islamic Conference.
>

While a complaint was made, no charges were pressed and and the Federal
Humans Rights Commission dismissed the CIC's complaints. What does this
have to do with gay marriage.

I was simply pointing out Trace's error in claimiing no society in the world
recognized Gay rights. Civil unions, in my opinion, are about the same as
racially divided bathrooms.

>>
>> You have heard of Canada haven't you? Your biggest trading partner and
>> your one remaining politically stable source of oil? That big chunk of
>> land north of the 49th parallel.
>>

> So Canada is partly responsible for gouging the US with high oil
> prices, some trading partner.
> -
>

Canada has no control over the world price of oil, however you might want to
look at your own back yard. How much has ConocoPhillips, Exxon and
Halliburton made this year?

Seon Ferguson

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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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And what right do you have to dictate what moral behaviour is? It always
baffles me that there are still some intolerant assholes out there who would
love to take away gay rights and turn America into a more oppressive country
based on their religious ignorance.

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 10, 2008, 8:50:55 AM11/10/08
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"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote during shock
treatments....


>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>news:e4g8h4t5u235lm1p8...@4ax.com...
>> "PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote during shock treatments....
>
>> If Canada does it, it's good. Explain. In the United States we have
>> legal unions. Why do we have to redefine marriage?
>> This is the same country that attempted to prosecute Conservative
>> columnist Mark Steyn
>
>Really? I remember when he started out, on the BBC.

That's not the point. The resident homosexual in this newsgroup wanted
to tout the "openness" of Canada. Steyn had been summoned to appear
before two Canadian judicial panels, the British Columbia Human Rights
Tribunal and the Canadian Human Rights Commission, on charges linked
to his book “America Alone." The complaints came from the Canadian
Islamic Conference. Canada does have a thought police.

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 10, 2008, 8:50:56 AM11/10/08
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If you followed the thread, you would know how it was brought up.


>
>I was simply pointing out Trace's error in claimiing no society in the world
>recognized Gay rights. Civil unions, in my opinion, are about the same as
>racially divided bathrooms.

Civil unions gives legal rights. Your opinion stretches the meaning.


>
> >>
>>> You have heard of Canada haven't you? Your biggest trading partner and
>>> your one remaining politically stable source of oil? That big chunk of
>>> land north of the 49th parallel.
>>>
>> So Canada is partly responsible for gouging the US with high oil
>> prices, some trading partner.
>> -
>>
>
>Canada has no control over the world price of oil, however you might want to
>look at your own back yard. How much has ConocoPhillips, Exxon and
>Halliburton made this year?

Oil producing countries set the price of oil. The US gets most of its
oil from Canada. Second is Saudi Arabia and third from Mexico.

Do you make it a habit of making ridiculous arguments?

Barry the Bolshevik

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Nov 10, 2008, 8:50:58 AM11/10/08
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I'm not dictating moral behavior. I'm just stating my opinion. It's a
concept that baffles Fascists.

Mike Smith

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Nov 10, 2008, 9:47:43 AM11/10/08
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On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:35:26 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>


>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>news:eaj8h411vfg41aolo...@4ax.com...
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4u56h45d2sq8leao3...@4ax.com...
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Trace" <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:8660d540-cd75-4046...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Woops! Seems liberal California isn't so liberal anymore!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too bad!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
>>>>>
>>>>>Homophobe.
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong with defining marriage as being a union between a man
>>>> and woman?
>>>>
>>>You have no right to dictate what "marriage" or love is. Marriage is
>>>between
>>>two human beings who love each other. No one has a right to dictate how
>>>another person can ro can't live there lives.
>>
>> Do I not have the right to free speech? If a queer couple wants to
>> co-habitate, I have no issue with it.
>>>
>But you think you have the right to dictate what a marriage can be?

Nope, but our society does. And our society clearly states that a
marriage is between a man and a woman. Hell, even California agrees
with that!

Mike Smith

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 10, 2008, 5:25:03 PM11/10/08
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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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You have the right to express your opinion i believe in free speech but when
you call for gay rights to be taken away that's when I have a problem
because all American cizizens deserve equal rights.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 10, 2008, 5:26:51 PM11/10/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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No our society doesn't. During the times of slavery society thought black's
weren't human. Heck even the supreme court thought that. Did that make
society right? Hell no. Society used to think black's and women shouldn't
have the right to vote but that was changed. Gay marriage is just another
one of those things that will change as society get's more used to it.

Mike Smith

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Nov 10, 2008, 6:21:01 PM11/10/08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:26:51 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes it does.

>society thought black's
>weren't human. Heck even the supreme court thought that. Did that make
>society right? Hell no. Society used to think black's and women shouldn't
>have the right to vote but that was changed. Gay marriage is just another
>one of those things that will change as society get's more used to it.


Maybe, maybe not.

Until then, our society clearly states a marriage is between a man and
a woman.


What I'd like to see changed is who gets to vote. Only people that
actually pay income tax should be able to vote. If you don't help pay
for our government, why should you have a say in who runs our
government?

Mike Smith

George Kerby

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Nov 10, 2008, 6:26:12 PM11/10/08
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On 11/10/08 4:25 PM, in article
4918b4c4$0$7532$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "Seon Ferguson"
<seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

WTF is the difference between American cizizens and Alien cizizens? A
cizizen is a cizizen no matter what? Doesn't matter what cizy they come
from, either!

George Kerby

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On 11/10/08 4:26 PM, in article
4918b530$0$7532$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "Seon Ferguson"
<seo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your writings are so grammatically special!

Tell us, is your graduate thesis in History, English or Economics, I forgot?

George Kerby

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On 11/10/08 5:21 PM, in article 78ghh45qvkgs6mq71...@4ax.com,
"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote:

Not so much that, but to be able to have at least a 6th grade level command
of English.

I might even demand a GED equivalent. That pretty much eliminates those to
which you refer. 'Change', indeed!

Boston Blackie

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Nov 10, 2008, 6:58:14 PM11/10/08
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Seon Ferguson

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"George Kerby" <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Good point all people deserve equal rights.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 10, 2008, 9:43:42 PM11/10/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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Greek society judged that Socrates should be put to death for daring to
question his leaders. It was wrong then and society is wrong now.

>>society thought black's
>>weren't human. Heck even the supreme court thought that. Did that make
>>society right? Hell no. Society used to think black's and women shouldn't
>>have the right to vote but that was changed. Gay marriage is just another
>>one of those things that will change as society get's more used to it.
>
>
> Maybe, maybe not.
>
> Until then, our society clearly states a marriage is between a man and
> a woman.
>
>

Again what right do they have to say that 2 people who love each other very
much can't get married?

> What I'd like to see changed is who gets to vote. Only people that
> actually pay income tax should be able to vote. If you don't help pay
> for our government, why should you have a say in who runs our
> government?
>
> Mike Smith

Doesn't income tax go to the federal reserve bank?

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 10, 2008, 9:45:25 PM11/10/08
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"George Kerby" <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"I, on the other hand, am a fully rounded human being with a degree from the
university of life, a diploma from the school of hard knocks, and three gold
stars from the kindergarten of getting the shit kicked out of me."

-Captain Blackadder, Blackadder goes fourth

Seon Ferguson

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh and while I'm at it why don't you think for yourself instead of letting
"society" think for you? or are you just some non thinking robot who needs
to be told what to believe by his Ministers and right wing talking heads?

Mike Smith

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Nov 10, 2008, 10:19:40 PM11/10/08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:54:34 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

What makes you "think" society is thinking for me? Are you truly so
stupid that you cannot see that the definition of marriage is a
societal fact, not an opinion?

Yea... you probably are.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:43:42 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

According to your ignorant opinion... <yawn>

>
>>>society thought black's
>>>weren't human. Heck even the supreme court thought that. Did that make
>>>society right? Hell no. Society used to think black's and women shouldn't
>>>have the right to vote but that was changed. Gay marriage is just another
>>>one of those things that will change as society get's more used to it.
>>
>>
>> Maybe, maybe not.
>>
>> Until then, our society clearly states a marriage is between a man and
>> a woman.
>>
>>
>Again what right do they have to say that 2 people who love each other very
>much can't get married?

Two people can get married, as long as they are a man & a woman.

>
>> What I'd like to see changed is who gets to vote. Only people that
>> actually pay income tax should be able to vote. If you don't help pay
>> for our government, why should you have a say in who runs our
>> government?
>>
>> Mike Smith
>
>Doesn't income tax go to the federal reserve bank?

Thanks for posting proof you are a moron.

Mike Smith

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 10, 2008, 10:53:47 PM11/10/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for posting proof that you are a hater and no better then a racist.

Seon Ferguson

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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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That's funnya hoophobic racist moron with no brains calling someone stupid.
Good one pathetic excuse for a human being. I feel so sorry for righttards
like you who hate everyone but themselves.

Lars Eighner

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In our last episode, <9fuhh4demrqnjvt77...@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Mike Smith broadcast on houston.general:

> Two people can get married, as long as they are a man & a woman.

And are of the same race!

Oh, wait ... Loving v. Virginia did away with that. How dare they redefine
"marriage"?

--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> use...@larseighner.com
"Shhh! Be vewwy, vewwy quiet! I'm hunting Muswims!"
- President Elmer Bush

pitchforks&torches

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Nov 11, 2008, 12:38:41 AM11/11/08
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WHACK!!!!

Careful there, Yappy! You just might be disenfranchising yer homophobic racist fundie
nutbag BFF Mikey the Plungerboy...
>


Government Shill #2

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Nov 11, 2008, 1:18:18 AM11/11/08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:45:25 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hey!

--
Shill #2

"I, on the other hand, am a fully-rounded human being, with
a degree from the University of Life, a diploma from the
School of Hard Knocks, and three gold stars from the
Kindergarten of Getting the Shit Kicked Out of Me."

-Captain Edmund Blackadder commenting on University education
in 'Blackadder goes Forth'

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 11, 2008, 1:45:22 AM11/11/08
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"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I thought of you when he came up with that "Your opinion only matters if you
attended University" crap.

pitchforks&torches

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, indirectly:

First, our tax dollars go to the treasury, then Hank Paulson gives half the money to
his bankrupt friends on Wall Street, then the cronies grab the cash, and invest it in
C.D.O.s and derivatives backed by AIG swaps, then the C.D.O.s, derivatives, AIG, and
swaps all fail, then the FED ( under Ben Bernanke ) drops
the other half of the tax receipts ( which he borrows from his bud Hanky at 0%
interest ) from a helicopter onto his now insolvent ShrubCo cronies on Wall Street,
who scoop up the freshly laundered and pressed T-Bills with their golden shovels and
rush them back to their vaults where the notes are leveraged 30X, and are invested in
BushCo brand cocaine, tulips and retreats at luxury resorts where the tax dollars are
distributed to CIA drugdealers, waiters, masseuses, and hookers.

They in turn deposit the money in their banks, which fail on Friday night, and then
the FDIC scoops up the loose change. The FDIC then goes to Congress, and requests mo'
money from the Treasury to cover the depositors who can then pay their taxes on April
15th, and the Treasury deposits the tax dollars into the Federal Reserve, which is no
more federal than Federal Express and has no reserves, so that they can lend it to
insolvent Wall Street banks at 6% interest.

Like I said, indirectly...

By the way, Mikey the Plungerboy is a homophobic Shrubsuckin' rat-fucking
Rethuglican't hater with a room temerature I.Q. and a G.E.D.: don't stand too close
to him as he's oozing Rush cum and he's been Hannitized once too often.

Don't waste yer time trying to school him. A healthy ~WHACK!!!~ with a rolled up
reputable newspaper or a large mallet on his noggin is the only way to communicate
with him...

>


Seon Ferguson

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Nov 11, 2008, 4:51:55 AM11/11/08
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"pitchforks&torches" <shrubim...@thehague.com> wrote in message
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Or a simple "BAD!" you can't reason with most haters. hater's are generally
stuck in there way especally if they are to old to get with the times. At
least I was right about one thing, income tax does not go to government. Btw
Is there a law over there to pay income tax?

Mike Smith

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Nov 11, 2008, 7:25:35 AM11/11/08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:53:47 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

OH NO!!!!!!

An incredibly ignorant imbecile thinks I'm a hater and no better than
a racist....

Oh what will I do???

/s

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Nov 11, 2008, 7:31:43 AM11/11/08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:55:15 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

OK, incredibly ignorant imbecile, point to anything I have posted that
would make a normal human "think" I am a hoophobic racist, or that I
"hate" everyone.

{Yea, I know... I'm being cruel to the ignorant liberal; asking him to
provide proof of anything... }

And I noted you did not disagree with the "the definition of marriage
is a societal fact, not an opinion".

Mike Smith

pitchforks&torches

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Nov 11, 2008, 10:23:42 AM11/11/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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WHACK!!!

Whatever you choose to do, we can bet that it will be based on ignorance,
lies, and poor critical thinking skills.

Stew in your own private hell, dumbshit.
>
> /s
>
> Mike Smith - Fascist Enabler, Coward, Moran


Seon Ferguson

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Nov 12, 2008, 1:09:44 AM11/12/08
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You constently say homosexuality is not normal and you want our kids to be
taught to hate gay people. I don't know why I let homophobes or racists who
post their hatred online get to me nothing you ever do will turn America
into a Soudi Arabia like Religious dictatorship where gay people are stonned
to death. The American people won't stand for it.
Oh and the defanition of marriage has changed throughout the years. There
was a time when people didn't even marry for love. In some cultures people
are forced to get married.

Mike Smith

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Nov 12, 2008, 7:43:02 AM11/12/08
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:09:44 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

<snipped the rest of his mindless rant>

OK, moron, post anything I stated that remotely resembles "you want


our kids to be taught to hate gay people".

You people are so stupid, I almost feel embarrassed to ridicule you.
It's almost like picking on the severely handicapped...

Mike Smith

Seon Ferguson

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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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You said you want kids to be taught that Homosexuality is wrong. So tell me
what do you think will happen when they are 16 and there gay friend comes
out of the closet? Will they accept him and not the sin like Jesus did or
will they exile him from society because they think he is a monster?

Mike Smith

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Nov 12, 2008, 10:17:11 PM11/12/08
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:27:30 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Just because you are living your 16-year-old fantasies doesn't mean
others will live those same fantasies...

And I noted that you could not come up with a single one of my posts
that stated I was "hating" homos.

Mike Smith

Barry the Bolshevik

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....


>
>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message

>news:jlegh4p0aj32rk0dm...@4ax.com...


>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message

>>>news:aasdh4drdcng7cabs...@4ax.com...


>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote during shock treatments....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message

>>>>>news:879bh4pca5ve5p2mf...@4ax.com...

Homosexuals never had the right to marry only by activist judges. So
it is not a right taken away.
-


"Some have called me dirty capitalist, but I've merely
used the imagination and common sense and energy that
kind Providence gave me."
-Oliver Warbucks

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 13, 2008, 12:54:13 AM11/13/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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I'm 25 you on the other hand are probably some 50 year old with prejudices
that belong in the past. I did you said you wanted kids to be taught
Homosexuality is not moral while no matter what people like you do or say
will never happen. Society accepts gay rights and there is nothing you can
do to stop that. It's like the South still holding onto racist attitudes
that belong to the 19th century.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 13, 2008, 12:52:01 AM11/13/08
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"Barry the Bolshevik" <Wel...@Giveaway.com> wrote in message
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That's actually a good point but before one could argue black's never had
the right to vote so therefore they had no rights taken away.

Mike Smith

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Nov 13, 2008, 6:43:04 AM11/13/08
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:54:13 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


OK, that explains things.
You're supposed to be young and dumb until you get into your 30's.

And just for practice, why don't you provide any sort of proof that
calling homos' sexual practices deviant is factually incorrect.

Mike Smith

Boston Blackie

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Nov 13, 2008, 7:12:22 AM11/13/08
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A_gent Smif, at what age did you decide between being straight and being gay?
--
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Mike Smith

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Nov 13, 2008, 8:25:34 AM11/13/08
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:12:22 -0600, Boston Blackie <bbla...@mail.com>
wrote:

Sorry, dumbass. I never had to make that decision. I'm normal and
normal people are ... well... normal.

Mike Smith

Boston Blackie

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Oh, so only 'abnormal' people have to make the choice, is that it? And
what is your cure for this 'abnormality?'

Mike Smith

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:00:03 -0600, Boston Blackie <bbla...@mail.com>
wrote:

Genetic manipulation or genome experimentation...

That means identifying the defective gene and correcting it while the
baby is still in the womb, or proving that homosexuality is a choice,
not a genetic defect. Either way, it can be cured, eventually.

Mike Smith

Boston Blackie

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Nov 13, 2008, 12:10:00 PM11/13/08
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be sure and let us know when that "defective gene" is located, A_gent Smif.

Boston Blackie

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Nov 13, 2008, 12:12:04 PM11/13/08
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On the other hand, maybe it's a defective gene that causes rational
people to become radical Repubics and radical Christians.

But we allow people to "choose" to become Republics and Christians,
somehow we can't allow them to "choose" to be Ho-Mo-SEX-uals?

Seon Ferguson

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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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Define "Normal"

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 13, 2008, 5:46:08 PM11/13/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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You can think its perverted all you want but when you want to take away
their rights that's when I have a problem.

Mike Smith

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Nov 13, 2008, 6:05:46 PM11/13/08
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:46:08 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You keep babbling about taking rights away, but you never name those
mythical rights.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Nov 13, 2008, 6:07:09 PM11/13/08
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:46:40 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

In the context we are discussing, heterosexual is normal.
That is the normal state of all animals.

Mike Smith

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 13, 2008, 7:09:23 PM11/13/08
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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You still didn't define normal.

Seon Ferguson

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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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Just marriage right now but if you had your way you'd make it so just two
men holding hands in public is a warrant for the death penilty. Youw ant to
take gay rights back to the dark ages the same way Muslims do. In fact you
have more in common with Muslims then you think hehe.

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