Re: Mexicans (Hispanics) have bankrupted Arizona
climber
> Any of us xenophobes and nativists could have told the government this
> was going to be the result.
>
> http://www.kvoa.com/news/arizona-taxpayers-owed-1-billion-from-
> illegal-immigration/
>
> PHOENIX - As Arizona Governor, Janet Napolitano submitted numerous
> invoices to the federal government for the cost of incarcerating
> criminal aliens under the State Criminal Alien Assistance Plan
> (SCAAP) from FY1994 to FY2008. Today State Treasurer Dean Martin
> announced that he is now pursuing those same claims with now
> Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
>
> "The cost of illegal immigration has exhausted the Arizona State
> Treasury. In order to pay for the federal government's
> responsibility of securing our national borders and incarcerating
> individuals who enter the United States illegally and commit
> crimes, the state has incurred hundreds of millions of dollars of
> debt to pay these bills," said Treasurer Dean Martin.
>
> 8 U.S.C. § 1231(i)(2), requires that the federal government
> "provides for compensation to the State. . .with respect to the
> incarceration of the undocumented criminal alien" and the
> compensation be based upon "average cost of incarceration of a
> prisoner in the relevant State."
>
> As Governor, Janet Napolitano in her March 17, 2008 invoice said,
> "the federal government is required by law to pay these costs, but
> has failed to pay more than pennies on the dollar."
>
> "The updated invoice, including accrued interest, is over one
> billion dollars," said Treasurer Dean Martin. "Illegal immigration
> has literally broken the bank here in Arizona. Napolitano is now
> responsible for securing our borders and is in a position to make
> good on the bill that she said the federal government owed. It's
> time for this bill to be paid before legal remedies are pursued to
> recoup this long overdue debt to Arizona taxpayers."
And Sen. John McCain dares run for re-election! He refered to illegal
aliens as "God's children". Please recall that he co-sponsored the
failed Immigration Reform bill a few years back with that other
degenerate,
the Sen. Ted Kennedy.
climber
GLOBALIST
out everyone in their path, can be so arrogant about Mexicans.
Arizona Willie
564b5c...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
> I am always entertained that a nation, founded on invading and driving
> out everyone in their path, can be so arrogant about Mexicans.
>
>
===============
What happened a couple of hundred years ago is irrelevant today.
Today we have millions of American citizens unemployed and millions of
invading aliens taking jobs once held by American citizens.
They have NO right to be here and are committing crimes every day by
applying for work ( it is a crime to apply for work illegally ) and by
identity theft.
They steal peoples jobs and their identities.
Sure, we can feel sorry for them because their country is even more
screwed up than ours. But we have an obligation to take care of CITIZENS
before worrying about helping people who are invading our country and
sneering at our laws.
Best solution?
Grant citizenship at the border.
Then all the invaders would become legal U.S. citizens and the employers
wouldn't want them anymore.
Why?
Because then the workers would be covered by our wage and hour laws and
health and safety laws for the workplace and they could complain when
they get screwed over. As long as they are illegal the employers can
cheat them out of wages and make them work in conditions that are
actually illegal.
Employers want the illegal aliens to stay illegal. They might allow
legislation to allow them to stay legally -- but not as citizens.
Propose citizenship for all the illegals and Republicans will vote that
down in a heartbeat.
Illegals are only profitable for employers as long as they can be used
for ultra cheap labor and paid less than prevailing wages for citizens
and worked overtime for free.
Many employers also deduct taxes from the illegals checks and keep them.
If they get caught then they pretend they didn't know and then they pay
the taxes they were holding. If they don't get caught with the illegal
worker then they keep the taxes too.
If we granted citizenship at the border, employers would have little
incentive to hire the new citizens.
Of course, in addition to granting citizenship you need a companion law
that makes entering the country illegally an automatic 20 year prison
sentence and also applies to anyone caught employing them. Otherwise some
would still try to invade without getting citizenship thinking they would
have an advantage because they weren't citizens so employers would hire
them like they have been.
Of course, it could be done much more simply by simply doing the last
part ... making illegal invasion carry an automatic 20 year sentence and
a 20 year sentence for anyone caught employing an illegal. No two or
three chances. First offense bye bye you go to prison.
Wreck T. Fire
> I am always entertained that a nation, founded on invading and driving
> out everyone in their path, can be so arrogant about Mexicans.
>
Fuck you.
Wreck T. Fire
> GLOBALIST <free....@gmail.com> wrote in news:a4d96546-95fb-4496-bd1a-
> 564b5c...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I am always entertained that a nation, founded on invading and driving
>> out everyone in their path, can be so arrogant about Mexicans.
>>
>>
>
> ===============
> What happened a couple of hundred years ago is irrelevant today.
>
> Today we have millions of American citizens unemployed and millions of
> invading aliens taking jobs once held by American citizens.
>
> They have NO right to be here and are committing crimes every day by
> applying for work ( it is a crime to apply for work illegally ) and by
> identity theft.
>
> They steal peoples jobs and their identities.
>
> Sure, we can feel sorry for them because their country is even more
> screwed up than ours. But we have an obligation to take care of CITIZENS
> before worrying about helping people who are invading our country and
> sneering at our laws.
>
> Best solution?
>
> Grant citizenship at the border.
You are flat fucking insane.
Shut up, drop dead, get out of here.
Arizona Willie
september.org:
==============
The problem is that the border and immigration laws are NOT enforced in
any meaningful way. Only the terminally stupid get caught.
The invaders are stealing jobs and money from American citizens when they
steal jobs and committ identity theft.
But -- the number one rule is -- FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Who profits from the invaders?
Businesses profit because they employ them as cheap labor. The pay them
less than they pay citizens and often make them work overtime for free.
They steal the taxes they deduct from the checks of the illegals.
Sometimes they demand kickbacks also. The frequently employ them in
conditions that violate our workplace safety laws.
But they can't complain because they fear the employer will turn them
into ICE. They get threatened with that all the time.
All legislation making them legal workers has contained provisions that
they have to have a sponsoring employer. Which basically would make them
slaves. If they didn't please the employer they get deported.
The so called " legalization " legislation is actually worse for the
illegals than the current situation.
So the only real answer is to make them citizens.
And then the employers wouldn't want them anymore because they could no
longer be treated as they are now. There would no longer be an advantage
to hiring them.
So most would probably wind up going home because they would no longer be
cheap labor.
Crossfire
> GLOBALIST <free....@gmail.com> wrote in news:a4d96546-95fb-4496-bd1a-
> 564b5c...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I am always entertained that a nation, founded on invading and driving
>> out everyone in their path, can be so arrogant about Mexicans.
>>
>>
>
> ===============
> What happened a couple of hundred years ago is irrelevant today.
>
> Today we have millions of American citizens unemployed and millions of
> invading aliens taking jobs once held by American citizens.
>
> They have NO right to be here and are committing crimes every day by
> applying for work ( it is a crime to apply for work illegally ) and by
> identity theft.
>
> They steal peoples jobs and their identities.
>
> Sure, we can feel sorry for them because their country is even more
> screwed up than ours. But we have an obligation to take care of CITIZENS
> before worrying about helping people who are invading our country and
> sneering at our laws.
>
> Best solution?
>
> Grant citizenship at the border.
Which makes your citizenship as cheap as a cup of coffee, you fool. Bad
enough to have an usurper in the White House giving away our
sovereignty, and now you want to be a victim. Go suck an exhaust pipe.
>
>
Crossfire
Arizona.
mrmcafee
> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
> Arizona.
Well.... NO! Most of the illegals have returned to Mexico and parts
south. They don't qualify for welfare and the jobs have dried up with
the recession.
The folks who have bankrupted this state are the Republicans who occupy
our state legislature.
Phxbrd
"Crossfire" <"Benton Harbor"@mcafee.mx> wrote in message
news:act1n.3298$Sk4...@newsfe10.iad...
> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
> Arizona.
Everyone believing that should now stand on their head.
High Miles
Finally.............pinning the tail on the right elephant.
Wreck T. Fire
Ditto that.
Phxbrd
"mrmcafee" <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s-2dnSDqroUg-NvW...@giganews.com...
Anyone knowing more than jack shit has known for years that most Mexicans
coming North don't stay here, but move on to better paying jobs all the
remaining lower 48 states. I'm surprised you haven't read about it. It's
been in all the papers.
California is a destination state for Mexicans. Arizona is a gateway state.
See how that works?
Wreck T. Fire
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Wreck T. Fire
You are a lying senile idiot.
http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices/12273350-1.html
Immigrants play key role in utility construction workforce.
"Certain construction trades are considered 'immigrant-saturated,'
because illegal foreign-born workers account for very large percentages
of employment in those trades," says Dallas attorney Elise Healy, a
founding shareholder in the firm of Spencer Crain Cubbage Healy &
McNamara, who heads the company's business immigration practice.
"Utility workers," she continues, "include highly-skilled construction
trades ranging from electricians, plumbers, pipefitters, pipe layers,
drilling equipment operators and others, as well as lower-skilled
laborers. I think the relative youth and lower educational attainment of
many recent immigrants--both legal and illegal--have attracted them to
helper and general laborer occupations.
"Demographers at the Pew Hispanic Center apply a statistical analysis
that concluded the construction industry as a whole employed about I
million unauthorized workers nationally," says Healy. "The same study
found that about 20 percent of illegal workers are employed in
construction."
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/RobertRobb/49126
Arizona has suffered large job losses during the housing decline.
Construction employment in Arizona also peaked in June, 2006. Since
then, Arizona has lost 88,000 construction jobs, a decline of 36 percent
from the peak. Nationally, construction jobs declined by 13 percent.
Construction represented two-thirds of all jobs lost in Arizona. Outside
of construction, the job loss in Arizona was less than two percent.
It's rather clear that a lot of Arizona's residential construction
workforce was itinerant. And much of it was also illegal.
AZ Nomad
Crossfire
McAfee, I thought you had seen the light after the latest debacle by
Obama and Nappy. Combined,the two of them run the full range of
incompetent. Nappy is going to drink the hemlock the next time she
screws up, which will be soon. Obama has to keep some of the White men
around to blame later.
As for the illegal alien Mexicans, they always go home for Christmas.
Then, they come back. The reason work has dried up is because Obama,
Harry Reid, Nancy the Halloween face, Barney Fag, and Senator "I'm outta
here" Dodd, fucked up the mortgage industry, and banking over the last 5
years. Now that your business has succumbed to Obama's "stimulus" screw
ups, and you look for a job to support your family and son-in-law, you
will find out that Obama didn't include you in his plans for receiving
Republican's earnings. You fool.
Crossfire
Obama's stimulus package has reversed the recession? We are recovering!
Didn't your notice? Oh, and by the way, some of the tax increases have
already began and you may notice those.
Crossfire
Pot. Kettle. Black President.
Crossfire
Crossfire
taxpayers.
Wreck T. Fire
You're rather tarnished, kettle.
Wreck T. Fire
"some"?
lol.
Andy
Another word for the USA in Canada is "The buffer zone, where the
illegal Mexicans end up".
Nothing personal against all Mexicans. I know Adrian Fernandes, the
race car driver and he's their most popular athelete.
Nice guy. Not poor either.
We get them up here in the summertime to pick crops, but then they're
back on the plane.
According to the 2006 census, Canada has 300,000 Latinos. You can
count the Mexicans in Canada on one hand, and still have room left
over for a ring finger.
I wouldn't visit Mexico if you paid me. It's a F**king third world
shit hole. Thanks for being in the way.
If I want sunshine. I'll go to Spain or the Southwest USA.
Wreck T. Fire
Wow, there _are_ some lucid Canucks!
;-)
Capt. Bill
It's a wild world. I meet a person who has a Spanish given name and a
Spanish surname, and but some immediately think that they must be
Latino. But we forget where the Spanish names originated.
Around Christmas time, I was at a Jam at a bar and met an actor named
Jose Hernandez who is from Spain.
He's a white fellow, like me.
He's like most actors. Looking for an acting job.
And he says to me "I get called, and I show up, and when they see
that I'm white, they say "sorry, we were casting a Latino for the
part, We thought that you were Latino"" So he was rejected because
of his skin colour!
I guess it's all about what having a Spanish name means in North
America, eh?
Capt. Bill
And just to clarify "Hispanics". It refers to all Spanish speaking
people. Not just Latinos.
So if you're a white European from Spain, you're a Hispanic
mrmcafee
You blather, john. And so early in the evening too!
AZ Nomad
>Pot. Kettle. Black President.
Most people are proud of being a racist.
AZ Nomad
The one that claimed there were death panels in the health bill?
The one that claimed iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to
al quaeda?
Crossfire
Obama seems to be.
Crossfire
I guess it's beyond your grasp Mikey.....
Von Hindenberg
Wreck T. Fire
Wow.
Wreck T. Fire
They are?
Why?
Wreck T. Fire
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:53:28 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:17:36 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>>>> High Miles wrote:
>>>>> mrmcafee wrote:
>>>>>> Crossfire wrote:
>>>>>>> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
>>>>>>> Arizona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well.... NO! Most of the illegals have returned to Mexico and parts
>>>>>> south. They don't qualify for welfare and the jobs have dried up with
>>>>>> the recession.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The folks who have bankrupted this state are the Republicans who
>>>>>> occupy our state legislature.
>>>>> Finally.............pinning the tail on the right elephant.
>>>>>
>>>> Lying, a liberal passtime.
>>> hello pot. meet kettle.
>
>> You're rather tarnished, kettle.
>
> The one that claimed there were death panels in the health bill?
Fact.
> The one that claimed iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to
> al quaeda?
Also a fact.
AZ Nomad
>AZ Nomad wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:53:28 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:17:36 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>>>>> High Miles wrote:
>>>>>> mrmcafee wrote:
>>>>>>> Crossfire wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
>>>>>>>> Arizona.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well.... NO! Most of the illegals have returned to Mexico and parts
>>>>>>> south. They don't qualify for welfare and the jobs have dried up with
>>>>>>> the recession.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The folks who have bankrupted this state are the Republicans who
>>>>>>> occupy our state legislature.
>>>>>> Finally.............pinning the tail on the right elephant.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Lying, a liberal passtime.
>>>> hello pot. meet kettle.
>>
>>> You're rather tarnished, kettle.
>>
>> The one that claimed there were death panels in the health bill?
>Fact.
no, lie.
>> The one that claimed iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to
>> al quaeda?
>Also a fact.
a lie.
Phxbrd
Did you see anyone standing on their head?
I worked and paid taxes for 54 years. You?
Wreck T. Fire
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:38:54 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:53:28 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:17:36 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>>>>>> High Miles wrote:
>>>>>>> mrmcafee wrote:
>>>>>>>> Crossfire wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
>>>>>>>>> Arizona.
>>>>>>>> Well.... NO! Most of the illegals have returned to Mexico and parts
>>>>>>>> south. They don't qualify for welfare and the jobs have dried up with
>>>>>>>> the recession.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The folks who have bankrupted this state are the Republicans who
>>>>>>>> occupy our state legislature.
>>>>>>> Finally.............pinning the tail on the right elephant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lying, a liberal passtime.
>>>>> hello pot. meet kettle.
>>>> You're rather tarnished, kettle.
>>> The one that claimed there were death panels in the health bill?
>
>
>> Fact.
>
> no, lie.
YOU are the liar!
http://www.lifenews.com/bio2941.html
Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama's Rationing Czar, Says We Have Too Much Health Care
by Betsy McCaughey
August 28, 2009
LifeNews.com Note: Betsy McCaughey is chairman of the Committee to
Reduce Infection Deaths and a former lieutenant governor of New York
state. This opinion column originally appeared in the Wall St. Journal
and does not necessarily represent the complete views of LifeNews.com.
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, health adviser to President Barack Obama, is under
scrutiny. As a bioethicist, he has written extensively about who should
get medical care, who should decide, and whose life is worth saving.
Dr. Emanuel is part of a school of thought that redefines a physician�s
duty, insisting that it includes working for the greater good of society
instead of focusing only on a patient�s needs. Many physicians find that
view dangerous, and most Americans are likely to agree.
The health bills being pushed through Congress put important decisions
in the hands of presidential appointees like Dr. Emanuel. They will
decide what insurance plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will
have, and what seniors get under Medicare.
Dr. Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, has
already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at
the Office of Management and Budget and a member of the Federal Council
on Comparative Effectiveness Research. He clearly will play a role
guiding the White House's health initiative.
Dr. Emanuel says that health reform will not be pain free, and that the
usual recommendations for cutting medical spending (often urged by the
president) are mere window dressing. As he wrote in the Feb. 27, 2008,
issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA): "Vague
promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and
wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality of
care are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public
relations than for true change."
True reform, he argues, must include redefining doctors' ethical
obligations. In the June 18, 2008, issue of JAMA, Dr. Emanuel blames the
Hippocratic Oath for the "overuse" of medical care: "Medical school
education and post graduate education emphasize thoroughness," he
writes. "This culture is further reinforced by a unique understanding of
professional obligations, specifically the Hippocratic Oath's admonition
to 'use my power to help the sick to the best of my ability and
judgment' as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless
of cost or effect on others."
In numerous writings, Dr. Emanuel chastises physicians for thinking only
about their own patient's needs. He describes it as an intractable
problem: "Patients were to receive whatever services they needed,
regardless of its cost. Reasoning based on cost has been strenuously
resisted; it violated the Hippocratic Oath, was associated with
rationing, and derided as putting a price on life. . . . Indeed, many
physicians were willing to lie to get patients what they needed from
insurance companies that were trying to hold down costs." (JAMA, May 16,
2007).
Of course, patients hope their doctors will have that single-minded
devotion. But Dr. Emanuel believes doctors should serve two masters, the
patient and society, and that medical students should be trained "to
provide socially sustainable, cost-effective care." One sign of progress
he sees: "the progression in end-of-life care mentality from 'do
everything' to more palliative care shows that change in physician norms
and practices is possible." (JAMA, June 18, 2008).
"In the next decade every country will face very hard choices about how
to allocate scarce medical resources. There is no consensus about what
substantive principles should be used to establish priorities for
allocations," he wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine, Sept. 19,
2002. Yet Dr. Emanuel writes at length about who should set the rules,
who should get care, and who should be at the back of the line.
"You can't avoid these questions," Dr. Emanuel said in an Aug. 16
Washington Post interview. "We had a big controversy in the United
States when there was a limited number of dialysis machines. In Seattle,
they appointed what they called a 'God committee' to choose who should
get it, and that committee was eventually abandoned. Society ended up
paying the whole bill for dialysis instead of having people make those
decisions."
Dr. Emanuel argues that to make such decisions, the focus cannot be only
on the worth of the individual. He proposes adding the communitarian
perspective to ensure that medical resources will be allocated in a way
that keeps society going: "Substantively, it suggests services that
promote the continuation of the polity�those that ensure healthy future
generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and
ensure full and active participation by citizens in public
deliberations�are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Covering services
provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or
becoming participating citizens are not basic, and should not be
guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to
patients with dementia." (Hastings Center Report, November-December, 1996)
In the Lancet, Jan. 31, 2009, Dr. Emanuel and co-authors presented a
"complete lives system" for the allocation of very scarce resources,
such as kidneys, vaccines, dialysis machines, intensive care beds, and
others. "One maximizing strategy involves saving the most individual
lives, and it has motivated policies on allocation of influenza vaccines
and responses to bioterrorism. . . . Other things being equal, we should
always save five lives rather than one.
"However, other things are rarely equal�whether to save one 20-year-old,
who might live another 60 years, if saved, or three 70-year-olds, who
could only live for another 10 years each�is unclear." In fact, Dr.
Emanuel makes a clear choice: "When implemented, the complete lives
system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged roughly 15
and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and
oldest people get changes that are attenuated (see Dr. Emanuel's chart
nearby).
Dr. Emanuel concedes that his plan appears to discriminate against older
people, but he explains: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation
by age is not invidious discrimination. . . . Treating 65 year olds
differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist;
treating them differently because they have already had more life-years
is not."
The youngest are also put at the back of the line: "Adolescents have
received substantial education and parental care, investments that will
be wasted without a complete life. Infants, by contrast, have not yet
received these investments. . . . As the legal philosopher Ronald
Dworkin argues, 'It is terrible when an infant dies, but worse, most
people think, when a three-year-old dies and worse still when an
adolescent does,' this argument is supported by empirical surveys."
(thelancet.com, Jan. 31, 2009).
>
>>> The one that claimed iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to
>>> al quaeda?
>
>> Also a fact.
> a lie.
YOU are the liar:
http://www.command-post.org/oped/2_archives/015496.html
TCP: The Iraq Survey Group is expected to file a comprehensive report
soon on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Reports indicate that it
will conclude Saddam had no WMD. But you disagree with that belief. Why
do you disagree and is it more likely WMD are still inside Iraq, or have
they been moved?
DeLong: I think what the report will say is, just like everybody else
has said, there is no proof there was WMD. There will be no definitive
statement in this report. I can state, unequivocally, there was WMD in
Iraq before and during the war. You have multiple-source intelligence.
Also, from other Arab leaders � as Tommy Franks says in his book � King
Abdullah said Saddam has WMD. President Mubarek of Egypt said you have
to be very careful going in, because Saddam has weapons of mass
destruction. Other leaders who have chosen not to be named said the same
thing. We had technical intelligence that saw the same thing.
Two days before March 19, 2003, we saw quite a number of vehicles going
into Syria. We could not go after them because we said we'd give Saddam
48 hours. A lot of (Iraqi) leaders went into Syria, and a lot of WMD
went into Syria. We've gotten indications some went into Lebanon, and
probably some went into Iran.
The size of Iraq is roughly, in square miles, the same size as
California. Seven-eighths of the country is arid desert land. We've done
calculations that you could probably bury 16 Eiffel Towers or Empire
State Buildings and never find them in the desert. Just four months ago,
they were digging for something out in the middle of
the desert and they hit something. It was a MIG-25 Foxbat that the
Iraqis buried in the sand. We never would have found this thing.
Biological Weapons, you could put almost your whole program in a
suitcase. You could probably put your whole chemical weapons industry
inside a van. Yes, they did have it and right today they can't find it.
The people we've captured, like Dr. Germ and Chemical Ali, the murderer
of the Kurds, aren't talking.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2004/oct/28/20041028-115519-3700r/
U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained satellite photographs of truck
convoys that were at several weapons sites in Iraq in the weeks before
U.S. military operations were launched, defense officials said yesterday.
The photographs indicate that Iraq was moving arms and equipment from
its known weapons sites, said officials who spoke on the condition of
anonymity.
According to one official, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency,
known as NGA, "documented the movement of long convoys of trucks from
various areas around Baghdad to the Syrian border."
The official said the convoys are believed to include shipments of
sensitive armaments, including equipment used in making plastic
explosives and nuclear weapons.
Wreck T. Fire
> "Crossfire" <"Benton Harbor"@mcafee.mx> wrote in message
> news:s0x1n.13799$w21....@newsfe17.iad...
>> Phxbrd wrote:
>>> "Crossfire" <"Benton Harbor"@mcafee.mx> wrote in message
>>> news:act1n.3298$Sk4...@newsfe10.iad...
>>>> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
>>>> Arizona.
>>>
>>> Everyone believing that should now stand on their head.
>>>
>> OK, OK, you can have some of the credit for being a parasite on the
>> taxpayers.
>
> Did you see anyone standing on their head?
Your is to pointy to balance on, freak.
>
> I worked and paid taxes for 54 years. You?
You live in a doublewide dump and aid criminal illegal aliens in
entering this nation, you vermin.
AZ Nomad
>YOU are the liar!
>http://www.lifenews.com/bio2941.html
<irrelevent article snipped>
Where are the death panels?
ne...@millions.com
wrote:
>Phxbrd wrote:
Play fair with the very needy Leslie Seth Hammond. He lives in a nice
home in Phoenix. The only real aid Leslie provides illegal migrants
crossing the border is lip-service in the form of anarchistic enabling
ideas. He is too damned old to do anything that requires consideration
for action or law. How do folks know when he speaks in deepened tones
of an anarchistic liberal? Any time his lips are moving!
DCI
Wreck T. Fire
The poor old coot is a walking slice of derision.
Wreck T. Fire
You lying pile of SHIT!
FUCK YOU.
> Where are the death panels?
What is RATIONING for $100 Alex?
Wreck T. Fire
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:53:28 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:17:36 -0700, Wreck T. Fire <c...@ci.tor> wrote:
>>>> High Miles wrote:
>>>>> mrmcafee wrote:
>>>>>> Crossfire wrote:
>>>>>>> The Mexican illegals, lead by Janet the Incompetent have bankrupted
>>>>>>> Arizona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well.... NO! Most of the illegals have returned to Mexico and parts
>>>>>> south. They don't qualify for welfare and the jobs have dried up with
>>>>>> the recession.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The folks who have bankrupted this state are the Republicans who
>>>>>> occupy our state legislature.
>>>>> Finally.............pinning the tail on the right elephant.
>>>>>
>>>> Lying, a liberal passtime.
>>> hello pot. meet kettle.
>
>> You're rather tarnished, kettle.
>
> The one that claimed there were death panels in the health bill?
http://www.lifenews.com/bio2941.html
> The one that claimed iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to
> al quaeda?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp
The CIA has confirmed, in interviews with detainees and informants it
finds highly credible, that al Qaeda's Number 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri, met
with Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad in 1992 and 1998. More disturbing,
according to an administration official familiar with briefings the CIA
has given President Bush, the Agency has "irrefutable evidence" that the
Iraqi regime paid Zawahiri $300,000 in 1998, around the time his Islamic
Jihad was merging with al Qaeda.
Wreck T. Fire
> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:57:38 -0700, "Wreck T. Fire" <c...@ci.tor>
Laughing the whole way:-)
ne...@millions.com
wrote:
Your comment is only 2/3 correct (use caution here). Old? Yes. Coot?
Yes!
Poor? Not according to him. He rides a Honda Goldwing motorcycle.
Enjoy!
DCI
Wreck T. Fire
<giggle>
Wonder if it's stored under a rotting blue tarp...
ne...@millions.com
wrote:
:D
Might be a camouflage tarp from an Army surplus store for his camping
trips. I don't believe he uses drugs, he's too bellicose!
DCI
Wreck T. Fire
A demonstrable lack of mellowness, sound observation, meth-head perhaps?
ne...@millions.com
wrote:
It's a predictable symtomatic response from a fuzzy thinking old man.
DCI
Wreck T. Fire
Senile dementia is a terrible thing to watch progress...