The death of our MP brother James L. Veal
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Remembering James Lee Veal
Shot down in the prime of his life.
The following are exerts from Gary parker and Steve Gregory, as placed on the
M.P. Homepage Wanted List, in there struggles to have a murdered friend, and
our beloved partner remembered, as promised by our military establishment. The
notes are not always easy however they are an on going effort to see this
memorial through. We believe that the problems we have encountered are not
isolated and therefore we are dedicated to all our beloved fallen Veterans and
their families , We hold them in high esteem and pray for the loved ones left
behind. It should be noted that many Veterans die alone and feeling so unloved
and with out hope. We want to bring a Light into that dark place.
We are Military Policemen!
Author: Steve Gregory
Subject: W.A.R.C.
Date: Sun Jan 4 22:21:54 1998
Message:
I would be interested in finding any M.P. who has spent time at Waiane
Army Recreation Center. That is on the Island of Oahau Hi.
I was there in 1975-1977 when all the shooting was going on.
I lost mt partner to a shotgun blast in 1977. This was on the Main gate.
His name was James L. Veal, may he rest in peace.
標ARC MP's by Tom Pipia , Sat Apr 18 20:24畢ong time no see by Gary
Prker , Sat Apr 18 18:32肘 Worked W.A.R.C by Rex A Sweet , Tue Mar 24
12:00弼ames Veal by Gary Parker , Sat Apr 18 18:18
Author: Tom Pipia
Subject: WARC MP's
Date: Sat Apr 18 20:24:40 1998
Message:
I was assigned to Waianae Army Recreation Center in 1973 to mid 1974. I
was a patrol MP and finally senior MP until I was called back to
Schofield. I worked at Schofield in assignments from Gate MP to MPI. I
left Hawaii in January of 1977 and was assigned to Ft.Belvoir, VA. Get
in touch if you want to talk.
Author: Gary Prker
Subject: Long time no see
Date: Sat Apr 18 18:32:34 1998
Message:
Steve,I can't believe it. This is Gary Parker from the 25th. I never
thought I would hear from you again. Didn't you come all the way out to
Herlong Ca.to tell me about Jimmy? We have a lot to talk about. I tried
to e-mail you, but my system tells me that you e-mail address is wrong.
Please get back to me!!!
gary Parker
Barnegat, NJ
Author: Rex A Sweet
Subject: I Worked W.A.R.C
Date: Tue Mar 24 12:00:01 1998
Message:
There is a memorial still in place for your fallin friend. I worked at
W.A.R.C from August of 1990 to July of 1991. Shortly after that W.A.R.C
became all DOD civilian guard. I regarded my time a W.A.R.C. one of my
best assignments the 9 years I serveed as a Military Police officer. I
wish you the best of luck, fellow W.A.R.C Ranger Rex Sweet
弼ames Veal by Gary Parker , Sat Apr 18 18:18
Author: Gary Parker
Subject: James Veal
Date: Sat Apr 18 18:18:50 1998
Message:
I too used to work at WARC and knew James Veal who was in my platoon. I
was so glad to hear that there is a memorial in place there. I was
working to get a plaque at the 25th MP Company after hearing that the CO
knew nothing about the Murder of James Veal. I talked with a Lt. there,
and was told that he knew nothing of this. He got back to me two months
later and told me that after checking, that I had the name wrong and the
year. Ya right. This pissed me off to no end.
Now I hear there is a memorial and that's just great. YOU MADE MY
DAY!!!
Gary Parker
Author: Gary Parker
Subject: 1977 Murder of James Veal 25th MP
Date: Fri Apr 17 20:25:28 1998
Message:
Anyone who remembers the Murder SP-4 James Lee Veal. He was shot and
killed while on guard duty at the Waiane Army beach on July 12th at
0200. He was was shot by one of two men trying to get his .45. He was
shot so close that it pushed his badge into his heart. When I contacted
the 25th MP co. they knew nothing of this. I would like to get some help
in getting a plaque or memorial put up for him. We as former MP's owe it
to him to remember. James was not only in my platoon, he was a friend!
Gary Parker
筆urder of James Veal by Gary Parker , Mon Apr 20 18:01謬he murder of
James L Veal by Steve Gregory , Mon Apr 20 08:58謬he Murder of James L
Veal by Steve , Mon Apr 20 09:30
Author: Gary Parker
Subject: Murder of James Veal
Date: Mon Apr 20 18:01:10 1998
Message:
I talked (E-mail) with a R.L. Blumer who is a SSGT in the 25th MP
Company, and he told me that He felt bad that he too did not know of
this Murder of one of their own.. He also said that he would look into
it for us. He agreed that something should be done. He also stated that
there isn't even a plaque of any kind listing thoes 25th MP's who have
been killed anywhere in the past. I too will be going with Steve if I
have to in order to make things right to Ohau. We need all past and
present Military Police officers to help with this wrong. This could
happen to any MP Company. We can't forget thoes that died in the line of
duty. If we do, how can we live with ourselves?
Gary
Author: Steve Gregory
Subject: The murder of James L Veal
Date: Mon Apr 20 08:58:42 1998
Message:
Dear Gary:
We spent many mounths on shift withn Jim, we knew him pretty good, I
truly cared abut him. I have the vision of the badget incased in his
heart, he was dead before he hit the ground.
I understand that this memorior, the plack is a dust collector in the
office and not on the gate. This is an outrage. I will see to it that
this is changed. I am a writer and I will make my contacts to see this
through. I need to find more MPs who are dedicated to this cause. If
thre is no MP out there MPs who don't care about death in the line of
duty I have no time for them and they need to reexamine themselves,,,,NO
ONE WILL DO IT FOR US!!! A call to all WARC MPs, I don't care when you
have bee there. Make
Sure you make contact.
I am so great ful to Gary Parker(my partner and Jim Veals).
I am greatful to Tim Pipia and Rex Sweet for their input.
謬he Murder of James L Veal by Steve , Mon Apr 20 09:30
Author: Steve
Subject: The Murder of James L Veal
Date: Mon Apr 20 09:30:58 1998
Message:
Tropic Lighting News-vol 7 # 15---25th Inf. Div. July 22,1997
Two Waiane residents have been charged with the murder in the July 12
1977 killing of a MP at Army Waianae rec. center.Jailed and charged with
murder are 19 yr Kennth A smith and 18 yr Tracy Peters, both of Waiane.
Veal was killed in the early morning hours,of July 12, 1977 at the main
gate( the only gate).
I know thathe motive was Smit just wanted to steal Jim,s 45,Jim Bravely
resisted relinqushing his weapon,Smith had the draw of the concealed
shoot gun and Jim never saw the weapon,he died that night. I Steve
Gregory have many other
details.
I suffer from a service connected Disability, I can only speak of such
thig for so long.
There was always shooting going on at WARC, we were hard and tought and
the ones that lasted with out fear were winners, in some strange way.
Author: Steve
Subject: Waianae Recreation Center, Death
Date: Mon Apr 20 11:30:46 1998
Message:
Any one station at WARC, please make contact. I am interested in the
death of my partner James L Veal. Murdered on July 1977. I want to know
what they have done with the memorial plack, The gate is supposted to
have a large granite marker, the gate is called Veal Gate. He die
protecting the enterence. We who were there at the time placed a small
nice memorial plack, that also should be in plain view also. I want to
know! I would be greatful for ANY help. If I have to Hawaii I will go
there and put it up myself!
謬he Death of James L Veal by Steve Gregory , Mon Apr 20 11:47
Author: Steve Gregory
Subject: The Death of James L Veal
Date: Mon Apr 20 11:47:51 1998
Message:
Any one who has been there please make contact with me. I want to find
out if he has been honored as has been promised. A memorial plack "Veal
Gate" and a small plack place by me and all who was there at the time of
the murder. I need as much info as possible before I take this project
upon myself.Jimmy was killed ,,murdered on July 1977.
Your fellow MP Steve
Author: Steve Gregory
Subject: 25th MP co. The death of our brother.
Date: Wed Apr 22 09:04:55 1998
Message:
I have always remembered the shot gun blast that killed my good partner
at WARC on that day in July of 1977. My life was never the same since. I
was alone and having flashbacks, no one wanted to be around me.I was
mean and kind of crazy, I spent 3 years in the VA hospital. I go to the
hospital all the time. I have PTSD, service connected. I was honorable
discharged. I was getting sick then.
I was so pissed off to leaned that no one knew of this event, I placed a
plack on the gate in loving memory of "JAMES L VEAL,,,no greater love
has a man then one who lay down his life for his friends." GO LOOK AT
THAT SIMPLE PLACK IF YOU CAN FIND IT.
I am greatful To Gary Parker, who worked with me and Jim Veal. Gary has
made contact with some of the people there in the 25th, I am hopeful the
Jim will get want he has been promised--A granite plack at the front
gate in Waianae-"In loving memory to our fallen friend JAMES L VEAL,,no
greater love has a man then one who lay down his life for his friend.
I don't feel so alone any more. I am still that same MP back in 1977 and
I still think of all the MPs and I can honestly say that my heart has
always been with you men.
I am thank ful to my friend and other partner who work with Jim Veal and
me,GARY PARKER. Gary has been in touch with some people over there in
the 25th MP BN and we have hopes of have what was promised a large
Granite plack nameing the main gate at Waianae(where Jim was guned down)
in Loving Memory of our fallen friend JAMES L VEAL.
Steve, I understand how you guys feel about losing your partner Jim Veal. But
please stop posting messages to the wanted list about it. Thats not what the
wanted list was made for. If you guys want a message board, ask for one and
I'll set one up. The wanted list serves as a way for people to find other
people not to post opinions or to ask for information on events. I'll set up a
message board for that purpose this week. Thanks
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Hello to all. I too was with Jim the night he was killed. Served in 25th MP Co. 1975 to 1977. If anyone has any questions my e-mail is rr...@aol.com.
Ron Radovanic
