Scanner Training - CAPR 55-1 changes
Sandy Wills
quietly read. If anyone has the answer to this, please respond:
A year ago, when I was undergoing basic ES training, the instructor asked us
to turn to Attachment 4-1 of CAPR 55-1, and follow along with him on
something. Well, he was using the 1/1/92 edition, where 4-1 thru 4-8 are all
about how to do aerial searches, and all of us students were using the
10/15/98 edition and couldn't find what he was talking about. We were pretty
confused for awhile, until we shutdown class and did some comparisons. The
new edition threw all that search stuff out. So, we made a whole bunch of
copies of the old version's attachments, and moved on.
Does anyone know why the current edition of CAPR 55-1 (the instruction that
gives "CAP Emergency Services Mission Procedures") no longer has all the
attachments that tell how to do an aerial search? Aerial searches USED to be
part of ES missions. Are they no longer? Were they thrown out on purpose?
Were they moved to a different instruction? Where can they be found now?
--
"Unable to locate coffee. Operator halted."
Fred McCarty
completly cut out the chapter on conducting Cadet Encampments?
Daniel R Goulet
California Wing encampment handbook. Not bad, it was used for the 1999
Tri-Wing encampment here in Maryland and had a lot of good info in it. It
is CAPP 52-11 dated 1 October 1998.
Fred McCarty wrote in message ...
Scott praiswater
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Daniel R Goulet
is not available on the net. I do not know the cost since I was mailed a
copy from the Encampments Commandant of Cadets. Shouldn't be that much
though.
Daniel R. Goulet
Scott praiswater wrote in message
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Daniel R Goulet
Didn't mean to turn your question into a Cadet Programs question. I will
ask some of out scanners here in MD WG and see If I can get an answer for
you.
Daniel Goulet
Sandy Wills wrote in message <37A44A59...@mediaone.net>...
Sandy Wills
> Sandy,
> Didn't mean to turn your question into a Cadet Programs question. I will
> ask some of out scanners here in MD WG and see If I can get an answer for
> you.
No sweat. I had a problem, I asked a question. You had a problem, you
asked a question. We both have a pub that has had major portions removed from
a reissue. You found out where yours went, and that may give me a clue to
where mine went, so in fact you helped me.
Also, the fact that the two problems were similar enough to piggyback tells
us all that we have a bigger problem: There may not be anyone actually
supervising all these publication changes. If there is anyone, then he's
asleep at the wheel.
Does the CAP have a "Publications Officer" (or whatever title) responsible
for seeing that pubs have the information needed? For seeing that data moved
from one pub to another is so identified in BOTH pubs? For seeing that the
official lists of pubs and forms (see one of my other threads <G>) actually
reflect the pubs and forms in use?
Whoever he is, he's not doing his job. Although, it may very well not be
his fault. I've seen lots of well-meaning competent people prevented from
doing their job by an incompetent higher level.
Daniel R Goulet
info is now in the Scanner Course (Level II) from ECI. Keep in mind, I'm
not a scanner I don't know what the old version of the reg, but it looks
like the info you described is in the ECI Course 02130A. Hope this helps
you out some.
Capt Daniel Goulet MDWG
Group III Deputy Commander
Sandy Wills
> This may help as far as where the info went to in CAPR 55-1. Looks like the
> info is now in the Scanner Course (Level II) from ECI. Keep in mind, I'm
> not a scanner I don't know what the old version of the reg, but it looks
> like the info you described is in the ECI Course 02130A. Hope this helps
> you out some.
I just happen to have both the old attachments and that course in my other
hand as I type this right now (I used them both as sources and references in
the Scanner ground school I taught last week).
In the old CAPR 55-1:
Attachment 4-1 was on how to grid a sectional chart.
Attachment 4-2 was "Search Probability of Detection"
Attachment 4-3 was "Determination of Search Areas"
Attachment 4-4 was "Search Coverage"
Attachment 4-5 was "Visual Search Patterns"
Attachment 4-6 was "Scanning Techniques and Procedures"
Attachment 4-7 was "Sighting Characteristics"
Attachment 4-8 was "Ground-to-Air and Air-to-Ground Signals"
ECI course #02130A covers what a Scanner does and how he fits into the Air
Force/SAR team, how to tell if the A/C he will be sitting in is a Bell or a
Cessna, how to get ready for the search flight, how to scan (old Att. #4-6),
how to recognize a wreck (old #4-7), his chance of finding the wreck (old
#4-2), and what to do after the flight.
There is some coverage here, but there is also much that is still missing.
Granted, all the parts that are relevant to the Scanner are in the Scanner
course, so maybe everything else is now in other courses. Or, perhaps someone
made the management decision that that other stuff is useless and should be
thrown out. Or, maybe it was left out by accident. Who knows?
Again, I just retired from the US Navy, where revised instructions like this
have footnotes at the bottom saying "Previous part 7 was deleted as obsolete,
parts 2-5 moved to instruction XYZ-2, and parts 6 and 8-10 moved to XYZ-4".
This makes it crystal-clear exactly what is going on. Does the Air Force do
things the Navy way, or the CAP way?
I think that whoever is in charge was right to put the Scanner-relevant
stuff in the Scanner course, but they should also have left it in a single
"How to do an Air SAR mission" instruction. CAPR 55-1 used to be such an
instruction. It isn't anymore.