Nobody cares about you, although you try very hard to make yourself
the center of attention and the subject matter of dispute. You are
NOT. You are an agent of evil, distracting people from the real
subject matter at hand, which is the scriptural evidence about God.
Quick question: can you Biblically call snow "Christian" when he
rejects God's Word, grieves the Holy Spirit and has in no way shown
where he has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior?
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/democracyordeath/index.html
Segment May 29, 2008:
PHILOSOPHY_suffering_MATHEMATICAL_imprecision_PRECISION_bubble_BIG_enough
Our daily perceptions and amid our world interpreted by our individual
minds, to at least some extent, make each of us view the world differently
and make each of us different in others eyes.
After the American holocaust of attempts on my life by those associated with
the apparently crime syndicated governments after federal bank examiner
employment in the USA and the subsequent forced injections, forced
overdoses, forced silence and exile, and the sickness and life stress that
followed, my perception changed of myself and others and so did my actions
change in daily life, to some extents.
Change appears inevitable under our life. I seek the truth and only the
truth amid the lies, and deceptions, and natural consequence of a universe
apparently bigger in comprehension than myself. So who is it or what is it
that forces us to pay crime syndicates in the government for almost
everything we do? Who is it or what is it that keeps here on prison planet
Earth, a human chicken pen or pig sty of sorts with resident farmers who are
as cruel to other humans, apparently, as the farmer who mass produces swine
for consumption.
So, here I wiggle, we wiggle, back and forth in partial comprehension. This
is where meta-physical mathematics comes in, and this is where the dilemma
starts, or perhaps it is the quantification of the unknown variable to the
unbeknownst to me, to us.
In conjecture we can see that we, many of us, and I are nothing. We
miscalculate when given opportunity and pay for it the rest of our lives.
Those outside factors or influences always impenging upon us to change
course in one direction or the other, for good or bad against our or "my"
well-being.
Perhaps this is where the wars come in. Perhaps the miscalculations of our
own well beings best action is part of that feeding cycle, we call the
chain of life. Then again, for every action there is an equal and opposite
reaction, but opposite in what direction? Perhaps a deliberate
miscalculation not miscalculated but based on a true and known variable in
the meta-physical mathematics observed. After all, does not a boat when set
at the center of a huge pond by itself enable itself to steer itself.
Once I was told by someone I respected, "Nothing is as ever as bad as it
seems". So who forgot to steer us clear. Why was I injected and tortured
by the USA government? Why was I set up so that I would file an EEOC
complaint and then be terminated for filing the EEOC complaint at the San
Francisco FDIC by George Masa Regional Director and Sue Carroll Assistant
Regional Director and the San Francisco FDIC EEOC staff, and then not have
the case heard by the San Francisco EEOC, despite my being one of those
naive enough to have served in the USA military?
My name is Kurt Brown, alias Saint Ram Bone, degreed accountant and degreed
reporter, outcast from the government of my home where I was trained to be
an accountant and reporter to a large extent. No wonder the Europeans and
others have or had so many wars. It is inevitable. The person steering our
boat, our life cycle, drinks blood at the helm. Maybe the lie does not
matter. I would not mind having a news broadcast like Paul Harvey's oddball
take on the world. That will be my next set on Youtube under
saintrambone's videos. Except, I will bring teeth that pierce the skin of
the lie like long needles, mathematics, auditing, reporting, and a bit of
clarevoyance passed down and missed or hit upon in those life threatening
situations. The worst was being forcibly injected. I would rather have
been shot in the head. Perhaps I was. No one gives a shit. Look at my
career, my life. I will take that Treasury job right before the regime
falls, or right before the current apparent international money and crime
syndicate is ripped from control over us humane humans, and I want my back
pay and for my people not to have to hide. Is it possible? Any of the
above?.
The regime or that thing will list you as a potential terrorist if you
pinpoint its criminal like activities robbing people of everything, reducing
them to slaves and medical monsters. I was forcibly injected. I have
reason to believe some of my ancestors may have had diabolical medical
procedures performed on their genetics. I know not the limits of the
universe, only that of my mind, and that which is attainable or unattainable
through meta-physical mathematics. Unbeknownst to us. I test systems. I
test variables. I draw conclusions heretofore undrawn before, and I believe
through my tests that in 2001 and before up to early 1990's, at least, a
crime syndicate was housed at the top of the FDIC. Who knows? Nobody likes a
martyr, and I like nobody.
> Quick question: can you Biblically call snow "Christian" when he
> rejects God's Word, grieves the Holy Spirit and has in no way shown
> where he has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior?
I don't "reject God's word"... I believe every part of the bible
except false apostle Paul. Your the one who rejects the words of the
Messiah hypocrite... Your the one stalking Linda Lee.
Looks like I'm going to have to really start now. Isn't it
interesting that you are such coward that in one post.. you said:
"Furthermore, responding to peoples' nonsense on PUBLIC FORUMS (you DO
understand what a PUBLIC FORUM is, don't you?) is not nor ever has
been stalking. If you do not wish people to respond then create your
own little moderated newsgroup and you can control it to your heart's
content. So your false accusation is just showing how you truly lack
the Holy Spirit in your heart. "
Yet here you are posting to say I'm stalking you.. You show yourself
to be a liar and a hypocrite. Now I have to find you posting outside
my boards telling lies!
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
If he who employs coercion against me could mould me to his purposes
You show what an evil, low-life liar you are crazycarl with your title
("Why false teachers like Snow Job are stalking.") which you, being
vile, have the nerve to post after stalking me for over a week, trying
to force me to worship your false idol Paul. You are positively
sickening.
Snow and I both worship only GOD; and God will make you pay on
Judgment Day for persecuting his saints. You're well on your way to
hell, swine.
He really is despicably evil, isn't he? He knows this persecution
won't make anyone worship Paul as he does; Paul is just an excuse for
crazycarl to do what he love the best - fight and lie.
Thank you for admitting you reject God's Word. Paul's epistles as well
as the entire book of Acts are legitimate parts of the Bible.
> Looks like I'm going to have to really start now. Isn't it
> interesting that you are such coward that in one post.. you said:
>
> "Furthermore, responding to peoples' nonsense on PUBLIC FORUMS (you DO
> understand what a PUBLIC FORUM is, don't you?) is not nor ever has
> been stalking. If you do not wish people to respond then create your
> own little moderated newsgroup and you can control it to your heart's
> content. So your false accusation is just showing how you truly lack
> the Holy Spirit in your heart. "
>
> Yet here you are posting to say I'm stalking you.. You show yourself
> to be a liar and a hypocrite. Now I have to find you posting outside
> my boards telling lies!
Uh...snow...you didn't pay attention to the thread. "saint7peter" had
the subject line "Why Christians like Snow Job are stalking." All I
changed was "Christians" to "false teachers." You're so desperate to
find fault whether real or imagined (in this case, very imagined) that
you've become trigger happy and failed to see who actually originated
the thread with the subject line of "Why Christians like Snow Job are
stalking." So once again you are in error. Typical for a false teacher
full of wickedness.
Matthew 7:15-20
15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will
recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from
thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree
bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree
cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is
cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will
recognize them.
Mark 7:20-23
20"What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' 21For from
within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality,
theft, murder, adultery, 22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy,
slander, arrogance and folly. 23All these evils come from inside and
make a man 'unclean.' "
1 Timothy 1:18,19
18Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the
prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may
fight the good fight, 19holding on to faith and a good conscience.
Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.
Just as snow was too lazy or desperate to notice, you didn't pay
attention to the thread. "saint7peter" had the subject line "Why
Christians like Snow Job are stalking." All I changed was "Christians"
to "false teachers." You're so desperate to find fault whether real or
imagined (in this case, very imagined) that you've become trigger
happy and failed to see who actually originated the thread with the
subject line of "Why Christians like Snow Job are stalking." So once
again you are in error. Typical for a false teacher full of
wickedness.
> Snow and I both worship only GOD; and God will make you pay on
> Judgment Day for persecuting his saints. You're well on your way to
> hell, swine.
And your words of wickedness and your false teachings show that you
bear bad fruit and according to Jesus Christ when He warned us
Christians about false teachers like yourself, "by their fruits you
shall know them." And your fruit is and has been bad therefore by God
the Son's own words, you are a false teachers. Secondly when you
reject the Holy Spirit as you have done you are thereby rejecting God
as well. Your words betray the evil within your heart that you have
been trying to hide. Your heart is hardened and devoid of the Holy
Spirit. Since you reject God's Word and slander His apostles you
grieve the Holy Spirit greatly. You really go out of your way to prove
my points about you and your behavior. Thank you for making it all so
easy. This is merely another example of that all-too common Linda Lee
wit and wisdom which cause most every one who reads her posts to never
take her seriously.
Linda, your bad fruit shows what is within your heart (this is
Biblical) and since your fruit is bad, your heart is therefore
darkened according to Scripture (again, Biblical). Now you call
Biblical truth lies which is an example of God teaching us that
corrupted individuals like yourself will call good evil and evil good.
So basically you're being an example of Biblical teachings of those
who are false teachers. All Biblical truth. Deny it all you wish, but
your words and deeds expose your wickedness.
Jesus said in Matthew 15:18-20
“But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and
these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts,
murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands
does not make him 'unclean.'"
Your words show that you are unclean.
Romans 1:29-32
They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and
depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice .
They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and
boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. although they know
God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,
they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of
those who practice them.
Ephesians 4:29-32
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what
is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it
may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of
God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of
all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every
form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving
each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Col 3:8
But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger,
rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.
1 Peter 2:1
Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy,
envy, and slander of every kind.
Linda, your childish and vitriolic outbursts merely show not only your
hardened heart but also the fact that you still are unable to support
your anti-Paul errors. Especially the biggest flaws in your "Paul is a
false prophet" assertions, namely that Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter,
all the disciples of Jesus Christ who were present at the time AND the
Holy Spirit ALL accepted Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ.
Who do you side with, folks?
Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of Jesus Christ
present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit who accepted Paul as a true
apostle of Jesus Christ?
Or abusive, foul-mouthed, Linda Lee who rejects most of the New
Testament, considers all who accept Paul as a true apostle, and I
quote directly from Linda Lee's self-written profile, "Paul is the way
to HELL"
Therefore, according to Linda Lee's assertion that "Paul is the way to
HELL" then are Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of
Jesus Christ who were present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit in HELL?
Yeah, I know what you're saying, "Carl, what a RIDICULOUS question!"
It is ridiculous. But it follows the logical progression started by
Linda Lee when she asserted that those accepting Paul as a true
apostle of Jesus Christ are hellbound.
Just another GAPING FLAW (wide enough to drive a fleet of Mack trucks
through side-by-side simultaneously) in Linda Lee's assertions.
Think about it, folks. This is what the anti-Pauline crowd is
basically claiming without evidence.
My advice? Reject Linda Lee and all anti-Pauline nonsense for it is
unBiblical, errant teachings that cannot be supported scripturally.
Acts 2:1-4
2:1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from
heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw
what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on
each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began
to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
The Holy Spirit filled all at this house during the day of Pentecost.
Acts 4:8-10
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit , said to them: "Rulers and
elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an
act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, 10
then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of
Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from
the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
The Holy Spirit filled Peter.
Acts 4:23-31
23 On their release, Peter and John went back to their own people and
reported all that the chief priests and elders had said to them. 24
When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to
God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heaven and the earth
and the sea, and everything in them. 25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit
through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
"'Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather
together against the Lord and against his Anointed One.'
27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and
the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy
servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did what your power and will
had decided beforehand should happen. 29 Now, Lord, consider their
threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great
boldness. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and perform miraculous
signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus." 31
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And
they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God
boldly.
Look who was filled with the Holy Spirit here.
Acts 7:55-56
55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit , looked up to heaven and saw
the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56
"Look," he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the
right hand of God."
The Holy Spirit filled Stephen.
Acts 10:44-45
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on
all who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come
with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been
poured out even on the Gentiles.
The Holy Spirit filled all those who heard and believed [faith] the
message of the Good News that Peter spoke.
Acts 11:22-24
22 News of this reached the ears of the church at Jerusalem, and they
sent Barnabas to Antioch. 23 When he arrived and saw the evidence of
the grace of God, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true
to the Lord with all their hearts. 24 He was a good man, full of the
Holy Spirit and faith, and a great number of people were brought to
the Lord.
The Holy Spirit filled Barnabas.
Acts 13:9-10
9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit,
looked straight at Elymas and said, 10 "You are a child of the devil
and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of
deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of
the Lord?"
The Holy Spirit filled Paul.
Acts 13:49-52
49 The word of the Lord spread through the whole region. 50 But the
Jews incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading
men of the city. They stirred up persecution against Paul and
Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. 51 So they shook the
dust from their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium. 52
And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit filled the disciples mentioned in v52.
Would the Holy Spirit fill a false apostle or someone who did not
truly believe [faith]? No. Would the Holy Spirit fill an unbeliever?
No. Would the Holy Spirit fill a rejecter of Christ? No.
Acts 15:8
8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the
Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
Paul was a true apostle of Jesus Christ. So says the Scriptures.
Linda, will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?
May God bless and help you see the error of you ways,
> Just as snow was too lazy or desperate to notice, you didn't pay
> attention to the thread. "saint7peter" had the subject line "Why
> Christians like Snow Job are stalking." All I changed was "Christians"
> to "false teachers." You're so desperate to find fault whether real or
> imagined (in this case, very imagined) that you've become trigger
> happy and failed to see who actually originated the thread with the
> subject line of "Why Christians like Snow Job are stalking." So once
> again you are in error. Typical for a false teacher full of
> wickedness.
But Carl, You didn't say what you said in this thread... You didn't
say you couldn't stalk people.. You acknowledged it by changing the
title by your own admission... Thank you for the confirmation stalker.
You just gave proof to everybody that your a liar and a hypocrite.
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
If he who employs coercion against me could mould me to his purposes
JERRY
I don't buy into "evil." I think everyone has the movie of his own
life running in his head all the time, and everyone is the hero of
their own movie. That said, there is his hypocrisy. He feels hunted
when I do the same thing to him, posing questions he can't answer and
pointing out the fallacies of his posts, but he will gladly perform
the same actions against other christians while excoriating me
publicly for doing what he is doing.
JERRY
Why, if it isn't the little anti-semitic coward, saint7.
Hiya not-saint. ;-)
How interesting that Carl is buddy buddy with a guy that keeps
claiming he's the Messiah and Apostle Peter. I don't make a point of
caring what he says. I take you've dealt with him before.
Furthermore, we have extremists like Linda Lee writing in her profile,
and I quote, "Paul is the way to HELL".
Well, if she truly believes this then she must also, via logical
conclusion based upon what she wrote and what the Bible teaches, be
asserting that Luke, Barnabas, Silas, the disciples of Jesus Christ
who were present at the time AND the Holy Spirit were ALL hellbound
for accepting Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ.
Until and unless anti-Pauline proponents can adequately answer these
challenges, of which expose huge, gaping flaws in their anti-Paul
stance, neither they nor their positions, assertions and claims cannot
and should not be taken nor accepted as truthful, factual and
Biblical. The Biblical truths I cited above have never been addressed
directly and soundly by any anti-Pauline proponent for those passages
effectively destroy the anti-Paul position. This leads the anti-Paul
proponent to disingenuously attempt to discard those passages, each
time with no sound reasoning. Not one anti-Paul proponent has been
able to support their position in light of the Scriptures I cited
above.
May God bless,
Mark 7:20-23
20"What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' 21For from
within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality,
theft, murder, adultery, 22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy,
slander, arrogance and folly. 23All these evils come from inside and
make a man 'unclean.' "
1 Timothy 1:18,19
18Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the
prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may
fight the good fight, 19holding on to faith and a good conscience.
Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
----
[Geelong, Victoria, Australia]
Plus you added Snow Job to the title, and in so doing it means you
called him a stalker, hypocrite. You're good at lying and justifying
yourself, I will say.
> You're so desperate to find fault whether real or
> imagined (in this case, very imagined) that you've become trigger
> happy and failed to see who actually originated the thread with the
> subject line of "Why Christians like Snow Job are stalking." So once
> again you are in error. Typical for a false teacher full of
> wickedness.
You're projecting, lying Carl.
>
> > Snow and I both worship only GOD; and God will make you pay on
> > Judgment Day for persecuting his saints. You're well on your way to
> > hell, swine.
>
> And your words of wickedness and your false teachings show that you
> bear bad fruit and according to Jesus Christ when He warned us
> Christians about false teachers like yourself, "by their fruits you
> shall know them."
And your bad fruit of claiming followers of Christ are not Christians
because they reject Paul is an evil falsehood and blasphemy against
the Holy Spirit, which Christ is.
> And your fruit is and has been bad therefore by God
> the Son's own words, you are a false teachers. Secondly when you
> reject the Holy Spirit as you have done
YOU are a damned LIAR, Carl. I have never rejected the Holy Spirit,
nor have I rejected Christ in favor of a false prophet like you do.
Liars all go to hell (Rev. 21:8). Why do you damn yourself to Hell?
> you are thereby rejecting God
> as well.
Another damned lie by the demon-possessed Carl. I have *never*
rejected God, Christ, the Holy Spirit. You post a pack of lies and
libel against me.
> Your words betray the evil within your heart that you have
> been trying to hide.
LOL. So says the liar who falsely accuses me of rejecting God. It is
you who reject God in favor of your false 'god' Paul.
> Your heart is hardened and devoid of the Holy
> Spirit. Since you reject God's Word and slander His apostles you
> grieve the Holy Spirit greatly.
Carl's evil code for 'when she rejects my 'god' Paul, she grieves me
and the Devil greatly'.
> You really go out of your way to prove
> my points about you and your behavior. Thank you for making it all so
> easy. This is merely another example of that all-too common Linda Lee
> wit and wisdom which cause most every one who reads her posts to never
> take her seriously.
No, thank you for demonstrating you love Paul above God.
>
> Linda, your bad fruit shows what is within your heart (this is
> Biblical) and since your fruit is bad, your heart is therefore
> darkened according to Scripture (again, Biblical).
Don't you ever stop lying? You're a pathological liar.
> Now you call
> Biblical truth lies which is an example of God teaching us that
> corrupted individuals like yourself will call good evil and evil good.
> So basically you're being an example of Biblical teachings of those
> who are false teachers. All Biblical truth. Deny it all you wish, but
> your words and deeds expose your wickedness.
>
> Jesus said in Matthew 15:18-20
> “But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and
> these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts,
> murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
> These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands
> does not make him 'unclean.'"
>
> Your words show that you are unclean.
You're an abomination to God with your claims those who follow Christ
are not Christians because they don't idolize your false apostle Paul.
>
> Romans 1:29-32
> They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and
> depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice .
> They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and
> boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
> they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. although they know
> God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,
> they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of
> those who practice them.
>
> Ephesians 4:29-32
> Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what
> is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it
> may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of
> God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of
> all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every
> form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving
> each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
You're a total hypocrite who doesn't even follow the advice of his
'god' Paul.
>
> Col 3:8
> But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger,
> rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.
You are really blind to your evil, aren't you?
>
> 1 Peter 2:1
> Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy,
> envy, and slander of every kind.
LOL. You are the epitome of hypocrisy, you deceitful, slanderous,
blind follower of the blind.
>
> Linda, your childish and vitriolic outbursts merely show not only your
> hardened heart but also the fact that you still are unable to support
> your anti-Paul errors.
Baloney Carl. You've proven nothing, providing only quotes from the
book of Acts from an author who was not an eyewitness to many of the
events concerning Paul. Luke did not begin referring to "we" in
relation to Paul and company until Chapter 16 of Acts. You've provided
nothing to prove your point; all you are doing is lying about what I
believe and what I've said.
> Especially the biggest flaws in your "Paul is a
> false prophet" assertions, namely that Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter,
> all the disciples of Jesus Christ who were present at the time AND the
> Holy Spirit ALL accepted Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ.
Where is that? Never mind; I've seen - Prior to chapter 16 of Acts.
>
> Who do you side with, folks?
>
> Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of Jesus Christ
> present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit who accepted Paul as a true
> apostle of Jesus Christ?
>
> Or abusive, foul-mouthed, Linda Lee who rejects most of the New
> Testament, considers all who accept Paul as a true apostle, and I
> quote directly from Linda Lee's self-written profile, "Paul is the way
> to HELL"
>
> Therefore, according to Linda Lee's assertion that "Paul is the way to
> HELL" then are Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of
> Jesus Christ who were present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit in HELL?
> Yeah, I know what you're saying, "Carl, what a RIDICULOUS question!"
> It is ridiculous. But it follows the logical progression started by
> Linda Lee when she asserted that those accepting Paul as a true
> apostle of Jesus Christ are hellbound.
If you worship a false prophet over the Messiah, the Messiah says you
will suffer destruction. I know, the truth hurts.
>
> Just another GAPING FLAW (wide enough to drive a fleet of Mack trucks
> through side-by-side simultaneously) in Linda Lee's assertions.
>
> Think about it, folks. This is what the anti-Pauline crowd is
> basically claiming without evidence.
>
> My advice? Reject Linda Lee and all anti-Pauline nonsense for it is
> unBiblical, errant teachings that cannot be supported scripturally.
More lies from you. I do support everything I say scripturally.
>
> Acts 2:1-4
> 2:1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
> place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from
> heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw
> what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on
> each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began
> to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
>
> The Holy Spirit filled all at this house during the day of Pentecost.
>
> Acts 4:8-10
> 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit , said to them: "Rulers and
> elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an
> act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, 10
> then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of
> Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from
> the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
>
> The Holy Spirit filled Peter.
Yes, what does that have to do with Paul?
>
> Acts 4:23-31
> 23 On their release, Peter and John went back to their own people and
> reported all that the chief priests and elders had said to them. 24
> When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to
> God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heaven and the earth
> and the sea, and everything in them. 25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit
> through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
> "'Why do the nations rage
> and the peoples plot in vain?
> 26 The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather
> together against the Lord and against his Anointed One.'
>
> 27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and
> the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy
> servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did what your power and will
> had decided beforehand should happen. 29 Now, Lord, consider their
> threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great
> boldness. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and perform miraculous
> signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus." 31
> After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And
> they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God
> boldly.
>
> Look who was filled with the Holy Spirit here.
It sure was NOT Paul who was still persecuting the church of God at
that point. You will burn in hell for your implications and lies.
>
> Acts 7:55-56
> 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit , looked up to heaven and saw
> the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56
> "Look," he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the
> right hand of God."
>
> The Holy Spirit filled Stephen.
Yes, this has nothing to do with Paul except that Paul soon killed
Stephen a couple of verses later.
>
> Acts 10:44-45
> 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on
> all who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come
> with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been
> poured out even on the Gentiles.
>
> The Holy Spirit filled all those who heard and believed [faith] the
> message of the Good News that Peter spoke.
>
> Acts 11:22-24
> 22 News of this reached the ears of the church at Jerusalem, and they
> sent Barnabas to Antioch. 23 When he arrived and saw the evidence of
> the grace of God, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true
> to the Lord with all their hearts. 24 He was a good man, full of the
> Holy Spirit and faith, and a great number of people were brought to
> the Lord.
>
> The Holy Spirit filled Barnabas.
>
> Acts 13:9-10
> 9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit,
> looked straight at Elymas and said, 10 "You are a child of the devil
> and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of
> deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of
> the Lord?"
>
> The Holy Spirit filled Paul.
Baloney. Luke is not yet an eyewitness at this point. So we have
Paul's word given to Luke that this occurred.
>
> Acts 13:49-52
> 49 The word of the Lord spread through the whole region. 50 But the
> Jews incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading
> men of the city. They stirred up persecution against Paul and
> Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. 51 So they shook the
> dust from their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium. 52
> And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.
>
> The Holy Spirit filled the disciples mentioned in v52.
>
> Would the Holy Spirit fill a false apostle or someone who did not
> truly believe [faith]? No. Would the Holy Spirit fill an unbeliever?
> No. Would the Holy Spirit fill a rejecter of Christ? No.
>
> Acts 15:8
> 8 God, who knows the ...
>
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You are pathetic wallowing in your deceit.
Nope. Again you err. That was in the original subject header created
by "saint7peter." I didn't add it since it was already there. You just
seem to be unable to get the facts straight. Or is it intentional on
your part to try to pin things on me that I did not do. Either
possibility is plausible. Regardless, you err again.
>
> > You're so desperate to find fault whether real or
> > imagined (in this case, very imagined) that you've become trigger
> > happy and failed to see who actually originated the thread with the
> > subject line of "Why Christians like Snow Job are stalking." So once
> > again you are in error. Typical for a false teacher full of
> > wickedness.
>
> You're projecting, lying Carl.
Nope. I'm right.
> > > Snow and I both worship only GOD; and God will make you pay on
> > > Judgment Day for persecuting his saints. You're well on your way to
> > > hell, swine.
>
> > And your words of wickedness and your false teachings show that you
> > bear bad fruit and according to Jesus Christ when He warned us
> > Christians about false teachers like yourself, "by their fruits you
> > shall know them."
>
> And your bad fruit of claiming followers of Christ are not Christians
> because they reject Paul is an evil falsehood and blasphemy against
> the Holy Spirit, which Christ is.
Due to the fact that you reject God's Word, reject the Holy Spirit,
and teach falsely indicate that you are merely a false teacher of
which Jesus spoke. And your constant production of bad fruit confirms
it.
> > And your fruit is and has been bad therefore by God
> > the Son's own words, you are a false teachers. Secondly when you
> > reject the Holy Spirit as you have done
>
> YOU are a damned LIAR, Carl. I have never rejected the Holy Spirit,
> nor have I rejected Christ in favor of a false prophet like you do.
> Liars all go to hell (Rev. 21:8). Why do you damn yourself to Hell?
The Holy Spirit accepted Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ yet
you reject that therefore you are also rejecting the Holy Spirit. The
Holy Spirit guided Luke's writings yet you reject them therefore you
are also rejecting the Holy Spirit. There's the logical conclusions
again, Linda. When you make claims, intelligent people take them to
their logical conclusions. Apparently you are either ignorant of what
a logical conclusion is or are being intentionally obtuse. Either way,
the fact remains that you have indeed not only grieve the Holy Spirit
but also reject Him as well. The unholy words and actions you have
been committing show, according to God's Word, that you lack the Holy
Spirit within your heart. Your bad fruit is coming from the heart,
Linda, and the Holy Spirit does not produce bad fruit.
> > you are thereby rejecting God
> > as well.
>
> Another damned lie by the demon-possessed Carl. I have *never*
> rejected God, Christ, the Holy Spirit. You post a pack of lies and
> libel against me.
You reject God's Word and you reject the Holy Spirit. Since you reject
them, you are rejecting God as well. These are just some of the
reasons I keep praying for you, Linda. I keep the hope alive that one
day you will open your eyes to the false teachings of which you spew
forth and the wickedness and darkness in your hardened heart.
> > Your words betray the evil within your heart that you have
> > been trying to hide.
>
> LOL. So says the liar who falsely accuses me of rejecting God. It is
> you who reject God in favor of your false 'god' Paul.
No, so says Jesus Christ.
Matthew 12:32-34
33"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and
its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You
brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out
of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
Matthew 7:15-20
15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will
recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from
thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree
bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree
cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is
cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will
recognize them."
Furthermore, Jesus makes it clear that if you continue to produce bad
fruit as you have been doing and never repent, your fate is sealed for
He said in verse 19, "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut
down and thrown into the fire." I do not want that to be your fate so
I keep praying for you.
> > Your heart is hardened and devoid of the Holy
> > Spirit. Since you reject God's Word and slander His apostles you
> > grieve the Holy Spirit greatly.
>
> Carl's evil code for 'when she rejects my 'god' Paul, she grieves me
> and the Devil greatly'.
No, Linda, there is no code. I speak plainly and from Scripture on
this.
You really go out of your way to prove my points about you and your
behavior. Thank you for making it all so easy. This is merely another
example of that all-too common Linda Lee wit and wisdom which cause
most every one who reads her posts to never take her seriously.
Linda, your bad fruit shows what is within your heart (this is
Biblical) and since your fruit is bad, your heart is therefore
darkened according to Scripture (again, Biblical). Now you call
Biblical truth lies which is an example of God teaching us that
corrupted individuals like yourself will call good evil and evil good.
So basically you're being an example of Biblical teachings of those
who are false teachers. All Biblical truth. Deny it all you wish, but
your words and deeds expose your wickedness.
Jesus said in Matthew 15:18-20
“But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and
these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts,
murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands
does not make him 'unclean.'"
Your words show that you are unclean.
Romans 1:29-32
They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and
depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice .
They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and
boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. although they know
God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,
they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of
those who practice them.
Ephesians 4:29-32
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what
is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it
may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of
God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of
all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every
form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving
each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Col 3:8
But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger,
rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.
1 Peter 2:1
Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy,
envy, and slander of every kind.
Linda, your childish and vitriolic outbursts merely show not only your
hardened heart but also the fact that you still are unable to support
your anti-Paul errors. Especially the biggest flaws in your "Paul is a
false prophet" assertions, namely that Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter,
all the disciples of Jesus Christ who were present at the time AND the
Holy Spirit ALL accepted Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ.
Who do you side with, folks?
Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of Jesus Christ
present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit who accepted Paul as a true
apostle of Jesus Christ?
Or abusive, foul-mouthed, Linda Lee who rejects most of the New
Testament, considers all who accept Paul as a true apostle, and I
quote directly from Linda Lee's self-written profile, "Paul is the way
to HELL"
Therefore, according to Linda Lee's assertion that "Paul is the way to
HELL" then are Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of
Jesus Christ who were present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit in HELL?
Yeah, I know what you're saying, "Carl, what a RIDICULOUS question!"
It is ridiculous. But it follows the logical progression started by
Linda Lee when she asserted that those accepting Paul as a true
apostle of Jesus Christ are hellbound.
Just another GAPING FLAW (wide enough to drive a fleet of Mack trucks
through side-by-side simultaneously) in Linda Lee's assertions.
Think about it, folks. This is what the anti-Pauline crowd is
basically claiming without evidence.
My advice? Reject Linda Lee and all anti-Pauline nonsense for it is
unBiblical, errant teachings that cannot be supported scripturally.
Acts 2:1-4
2:1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from
heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw
what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on
each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began
to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
The Holy Spirit filled all at this house during the day of Pentecost.
Acts 4:8-10
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit , said to them: "Rulers and
elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an
act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, 10
then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of
Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from
the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
The Holy Spirit filled Peter.
Acts 4:23-31
23 On their release, Peter and John went back to their own people and
reported all that the chief priests and elders had said to them. 24
When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to
God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heaven and the earth
and the sea, and everything in them. 25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit
through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
"'Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather
together against the Lord and against his Anointed One.'
27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and
the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy
servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did what your power and will
had decided beforehand should happen. 29 Now, Lord, consider their
threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great
boldness. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and perform miraculous
signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus." 31
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And
they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God
boldly.
Look who was filled with the Holy Spirit here.
Acts 7:55-56
55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit , looked up to heaven and saw
the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56
"Look," he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the
right hand of God."
The Holy Spirit filled Stephen.
Acts 10:44-45
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on
all who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come
with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been
poured out even on the Gentiles.
The Holy Spirit filled all those who heard and believed [faith] the
message of the Good News that Peter spoke.
Acts 11:22-24
22 News of this reached the ears of the church at Jerusalem, and they
sent Barnabas to Antioch. 23 When he arrived and saw the evidence of
the grace of God, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true
to the Lord with all their hearts. 24 He was a good man, full of the
Holy Spirit and faith, and a great number of people were brought to
the Lord.
The Holy Spirit filled Barnabas.
Acts 13:9-10
9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit,
looked straight at Elymas and said, 10 "You are a child of the devil
and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of
deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of
the Lord?"
The Holy Spirit filled Paul.
Acts 13:49-52
49 The word of the Lord spread through the whole region. 50 But the
Jews incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading
men of the city. They stirred up persecution against Paul and
Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. 51 So they shook the
dust from their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium. 52
And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit filled the disciples mentioned in v52.
Would the Holy Spirit fill a false apostle or someone who did not
truly believe [faith]? No. Would the Holy Spirit fill an unbeliever?
No. Would the Holy Spirit fill a rejecter of Christ? No.
Acts 15:8
No, you repeatedly lie about everything because you're a pathological
liar.
Matthew 7:15-20
15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will
recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from
thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree
bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree
cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is
cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will
recognize them."
Linda, Jesus makes it clear that if you continue to produce bad fruit
as you have been doing and never repent, your fate is sealed for He
said in verse 19, "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut
down and thrown into the fire." I do not want that to be your fate so
I keep praying for you.
Linda, you really go out of your way to prove my points about you and
You lie about what I've said; you lie about what I believe; and you
lie about God.
You really go out of your way to prove my points about you and your
<snip abominable lies>
Your contention that those who follow Christ cannot do so unless they
also accept your false 'god' Paul is an abomination to God. You'll pay
for your lie on Judgment Day, mark my words.
Again you bear false witness against me. Typical for the false teacher
like yourself whose heart is hardened and devoid of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus described false teachers and you fit His description fully and
completely. You really go out of your way to prove my points about you
True answer: You are like the Devil himself, lying about what God
said. Your contention that those who follow Christ cannot do so unless
they also accept your false 'god' Paul is an abomination to God.
Christ said, "follow me" (Matt. 19:21) to inherit eternal life, not
follow Paul. You'll pay for your lie on Judgment Day, mark my words.
<snip>
Your contention that those who follow Christ cannot do so unless they
also accept your false 'god' Paul is an abomination to God. Christ
said, "follow me" (Matt. 19:21) to inherit eternal life, not follow
Paul. You are like the Devil himself, lying about what God said.
And yet again you bear false witness against me and committ libel.
Forshame, Linda, the satanic wickedness in your heart is growing. You
And yet again you bear false witness against me and committ libel.
Forshame, Linda, the satanic wickedness in your heart is growing. You
<snip>
Your contention that those who follow Christ cannot do so unless they
also accept your false apostle Paul is an abomination to God. Christ
said, "follow me" (Matt. 19:21) to inherit eternal life, not follow/
accept Paul. You are like the Devil himself, lying about what God
And yet again you bear false witness against me and committ libel.
JERRY
I'm not sure that Carl and the anti-semite are "buddy-buddy," but they
agree on their belief in the importance of Paul. Now, it could be a
"the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of thing. However, Carl
doesn't strike me as an anti-semite.