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Michael Christ
Apr 22, 2013, 5:59:56 PM4/22/13
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On Apr 19, 10:29 pm, Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> wrote:
> Genesis 1:28 NRSV
> Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth
>
> http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable
>
> Of those nations that have chosen to institute Gay Marriage, perhaps
> this verse applies:http://bible.cc/romans/13-1.htm
>
> Matthew 7:16-20 NRSV
> You will know them by their fruits.http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Matthew+7%3A16-20&vnum=yes&version=nrsv
>
> Galatians 5:22-23 NRSV
> 22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
> kindness, generosity, faithfulness,^23 gentleness, and self-control.
> There is no law against such things.
>
> 3 Nephi 11:29
> For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention
> is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and
> he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
>
> It seems to me that everyone (including myself) that has any degree of
> the opposite of the fruit of the spirit in any of their interactions
> with others, is acting unrighteously, and righteousness might best be
> measured by the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit.
Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end
of the day.
For obvious reasons.
Simple, isn't it.
Michael Christ
> Genesis 1:28 NRSV
> Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth
>
> http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable
>
> Of those nations that have chosen to institute Gay Marriage, perhaps
> this verse applies:http://bible.cc/romans/13-1.htm
>
> Matthew 7:16-20 NRSV
> You will know them by their fruits.http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Matthew+7%3A16-20&vnum=yes&version=nrsv
>
> Galatians 5:22-23 NRSV
> 22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
> kindness, generosity, faithfulness,^23 gentleness, and self-control.
> There is no law against such things.
>
> 3 Nephi 11:29
> For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention
> is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and
> he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
>
> It seems to me that everyone (including myself) that has any degree of
> the opposite of the fruit of the spirit in any of their interactions
> with others, is acting unrighteously, and righteousness might best be
> measured by the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit.
Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end
of the day.
For obvious reasons.
Simple, isn't it.
Michael Christ
The Doctor
Apr 22, 2013, 6:36:49 PM4/22/13
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In article <8be3c097-5e3a-4fe4...@qc10g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>thew+7%3A16-20&vnum=3Dyes&version=3Dnrsv
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Michael Christ <jesusemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 19, 10:29=A0pm, Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> wrote:
>> Genesis 1:28 NRSV
>> Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth
>>
>> http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable
>>
>> Of those nations that have chosen to institute Gay Marriage, perhaps
>> this verse applies:http://bible.cc/romans/13-1.htm
>>
>> Matthew 7:16-20 NRSV
>> You will know them by their fruits.http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=3DMat=
>> Genesis 1:28 NRSV
>> Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth
>>
>> http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable
>>
>> Of those nations that have chosen to institute Gay Marriage, perhaps
>> this verse applies:http://bible.cc/romans/13-1.htm
>>
>> Matthew 7:16-20 NRSV
>thew+7%3A16-20&vnum=3Dyes&version=3Dnrsv
>>
>> Galatians 5:22-23 NRSV
>> 22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
>> kindness, generosity, faithfulness,^23 gentleness, and self-control.
>> There is no law against such things.
>>
>> 3 Nephi 11:29
>> For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention
>> is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and
>> he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
>>
>> It seems to me that everyone (including myself) that has any degree of
>> the opposite of the fruit of the spirit in any of their interactions
>> with others, is acting unrighteously, and righteousness might best be
>> measured by the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit.
>
>Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end
>of the day.
>
>For obvious reasons.
>
>Simple, isn't it.
>
>
Exactly correct.
>> Galatians 5:22-23 NRSV
>> 22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
>> kindness, generosity, faithfulness,^23 gentleness, and self-control.
>> There is no law against such things.
>>
>> 3 Nephi 11:29
>> For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention
>> is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and
>> he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
>>
>> It seems to me that everyone (including myself) that has any degree of
>> the opposite of the fruit of the spirit in any of their interactions
>> with others, is acting unrighteously, and righteousness might best be
>> measured by the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit.
>
>Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end
>of the day.
>
>For obvious reasons.
>
>Simple, isn't it.
>
>
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dolf
Apr 22, 2013, 8:28:32 PM4/22/13
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Nous: #31
Time: 02:00 hrs
Date: 2013.4.21
Torah: #10 #200 #400 %81 = #43
Dao: Military Stratagem, Quelling War
Tetra: #51 - Constancy
I-Ching: H32 - Endurance
DNA: vBlack: #31 vYellow: #1 vCyan: #50 vCoral: #12
Latin: Spes {God who punishes the wicked} Alt: Saitel {Roaming of God} {
1. PROTECTS AGAINST UNJUST ATTACKS, CONFOUNDING ONE'S ENEMIES
2. PROPAGATES LIGHT, CIVILISATION & LIBERTY
3. PEACE, JUSTICE, SCIENCES & THE ARTS
4. Hepe
Solar Eclipse 4 December 2002 + 28 years}
Amminadab {My people is liberal}
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:1,row:1,col:9
Male Idea #337
#1, #80, #5, #80, #50, #10, #60, #1, #50
απεπνιξαν apopnigo (G638): 1) to choke; 1a) to suffocate with water,
drown
"And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and
choked {apopnigo-choke [G638]: #1, #80, #5, #80, #50, #10, #60, #1, #50
= #337} it." [Luke 8:7]
Female Idea #325
#1, #3, #1, #40, #70, #10, #200
αγαμοισ agamos (G22): 1) unmarried, unwedded, single;
"I say therefore to the unmarried {agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1,
#40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} and widows, It is good for them if they
abide even as I." [1Corinthians 7:8]
"There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried
{agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1, #40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} woman
careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and
in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world,
how she may please her husband." [1Corinthians 7:34]
Time: 02:00 hrs
Date: 2013.4.21
Torah: #10 #200 #400 %81 = #43
Dao: Military Stratagem, Quelling War
Tetra: #51 - Constancy
I-Ching: H32 - Endurance
DNA: vBlack: #31 vYellow: #1 vCyan: #50 vCoral: #12
Latin: Spes {God who punishes the wicked} Alt: Saitel {Roaming of God} {
1. PROTECTS AGAINST UNJUST ATTACKS, CONFOUNDING ONE'S ENEMIES
2. PROPAGATES LIGHT, CIVILISATION & LIBERTY
3. PEACE, JUSTICE, SCIENCES & THE ARTS
4. Hepe
Solar Eclipse 4 December 2002 + 28 years}
Amminadab {My people is liberal}
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:1,row:1,col:9
Male Idea #337
#1, #80, #5, #80, #50, #10, #60, #1, #50
απεπνιξαν apopnigo (G638): 1) to choke; 1a) to suffocate with water,
drown
"And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and
choked {apopnigo-choke [G638]: #1, #80, #5, #80, #50, #10, #60, #1, #50
= #337} it." [Luke 8:7]
Female Idea #325
#1, #3, #1, #40, #70, #10, #200
αγαμοισ agamos (G22): 1) unmarried, unwedded, single;
"I say therefore to the unmarried {agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1,
#40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} and widows, It is good for them if they
abide even as I." [1Corinthians 7:8]
"There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried
{agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1, #40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} woman
careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and
in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world,
how she may please her husband." [1Corinthians 7:34]
Peter Olcott
Apr 22, 2013, 8:29:45 PM4/22/13
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between subject and object.
Michael Christ
Apr 23, 2013, 12:00:46 AM4/23/13
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Peter Olcott wrote:
> For realized ones there is the most grande delusion of the distinction
> between subject and object.
What are you talking about?
> For realized ones there is the most grande delusion of the distinction
> between subject and object.
It is no good writing something to someone unless you make clear what
you mean, otherwise you have no need of a reader.
Michael Christ
Peter Olcott
Apr 23, 2013, 7:06:33 AM4/23/13
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escapes the effect of this delusion, only a very few fully realized ones.
Michael Christ
Apr 25, 2013, 5:26:43 AM4/25/13
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Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Apr 25, 2013, 5:29:03 AM4/25/13
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Dolf, you were born a man.
God made a woman for the man.
The end of the matter.
The WORLD wants gay marriage...the alarm bells should be sounding.
Michael Christ
God made a woman for the man.
The end of the matter.
The WORLD wants gay marriage...the alarm bells should be sounding.
Michael Christ
•RLMeasures
Apr 25, 2013, 10:06:06 AM4/25/13
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In article
<d3541cf1-77f7-414c...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
<d3541cf1-77f7-414c...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> God made a woman for the man.
• If God made a woman from the man design why does a glans penis have
> Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> God made a woman for the man.
4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
Michael Christ
Apr 25, 2013, 4:41:13 PM4/25/13
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On Apr 26, 12:06 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <d3541cf1-77f7-414c-a7e3-68c2ad7df...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ
> In article
> <d3541cf1-77f7-414c-a7e3-68c2ad7df...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> > God made a woman for the man.
> Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> > God made a woman for the man.
RLMeasures wrote:
> • If God made a woman from the man design why does a glans penis have
> 4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
For God's sake, wake up!
> • If God made a woman from the man design why does a glans penis have
> 4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
Michael Christ
�RLMeasures
Apr 25, 2013, 5:49:32 PM4/25/13
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In article
<9cf68c7e-8bea-48ef...@aw7g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 12:06=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <d3541cf1-77f7-414c-a7e3-68c2ad7df...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dolf, you were born a man.
> >
> > > God made a woman for the man.
>
> RLMeasures wrote:
> > =95 =A0If God made a woman from the man design why does a glans penis hav=
<9cf68c7e-8bea-48ef...@aw7g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 12:06=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <d3541cf1-77f7-414c-a7e3-68c2ad7df...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dolf, you were born a man.
> >
> > > God made a woman for the man.
>
> RLMeasures wrote:
> e
> > 4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
>
> For God's sake, wake up!
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
*** I'm awake.
> > 4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
>
> For God's sake, wake up!
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
Terry Cross
Apr 25, 2013, 7:06:00 PM4/25/13
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On Apr 25, 1:41 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Some would view those as never beginnings.
wrote:
John Manning
Apr 25, 2013, 7:57:31 PM4/25/13
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On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
Of course. Why not?
> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
Of course. Why not?
Terry Cross
Apr 25, 2013, 8:12:47 PM4/25/13
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TCross
Michael Christ
Apr 26, 2013, 5:18:11 AM4/26/13
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Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Apr 26, 2013, 5:19:13 AM4/26/13
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Michael Christ
John Manning
Apr 26, 2013, 6:59:55 AM4/26/13
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How was it answered?
"God" told you?
Did you go to lunch together or what?
Just how exactly does "God" tell you stuff"?
And, by the way, did "God" tell you to call yourself
Michael "Christ"?
What makes you think "God" has told you anything?
What makes you think you have any credibility?
> Michael Christ
>
�RLMeasures
Apr 26, 2013, 10:41:11 AM4/26/13
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In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
*** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
•RLMeasures
Apr 26, 2013, 10:44:29 AM4/26/13
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In article
<e61505e3-c713-4445...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, Terry
Cross <tcro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 4:57=A0pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > > Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >
> > Of course. Why not?
>
> Better to marry than burn. :-)
>
• I have met some women who probably would not be better TC.
<e61505e3-c713-4445...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, Terry
Cross <tcro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 4:57=A0pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > > Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >
> > Of course. Why not?
>
> Better to marry than burn. :-)
>
•RLMeasures
Apr 26, 2013, 10:48:00 AM4/26/13
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In article <tbWdnar9p6Cww-fM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
<jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 6:18 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 9:57 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >>
> >> Of course. Why not?
> >
> > I didn't ask the question, but it was answered.
>
>
> Where was it answered?
>
> How was it answered?
>
> "God" told you?
>
> Did you go to lunch together or what?
>
> Just how exactly does "God" tell you stuff"?
*** e-mails?
> On 4/26/2013 6:18 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 9:57 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >>
> >> Of course. Why not?
> >
> > I didn't ask the question, but it was answered.
>
>
> Where was it answered?
>
> How was it answered?
>
> "God" told you?
>
> Did you go to lunch together or what?
>
> Just how exactly does "God" tell you stuff"?
John Manning
Apr 26, 2013, 11:14:22 AM4/26/13
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duke
Apr 26, 2013, 12:01:26 PM4/26/13
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The dukester, American - American
********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
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CoG
Apr 26, 2013, 1:28:39 PM4/26/13
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On Monday, April 22, 2013 4:59:56 PM UTC-5, Michael Christ wrote:
> On Apr 19, 10:29 pm, Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> wrote: > Genesis 1:28 NRSV > Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth > > http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable > > Of those nations that have chosen to institute Gay Marriage, perhaps > this verse applies:http://bible.cc/romans/13-1.htm > > Matthew 7:16-20 NRSV > You will know them by their fruits.http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Matthew+7%3A16-20&vnum=yes&version=nrsv > > Galatians 5:22-23 NRSV > 22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, > kindness, generosity, faithfulness,^23 gentleness, and self-control. > There is no law against such things. > > 3 Nephi 11:29 > For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention > is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and > he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another. > > It seems to me that everyone (including myself) that has any degree of > the opposite of the fruit of the spirit in any of their interactions > with others, is acting unrighteously, and righteousness might best be > measured by the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit. Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end of the day. For obvious reasons. Simple, isn't it. Michael Christ
I know of some people who were born with a strong desire to be with their own gender. Their sexual orientation is not what was taught by anyone because they were born this way.
> On Apr 19, 10:29 pm, Peter Olcott <OCR4Screen> wrote: > Genesis 1:28 NRSV > Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth > > http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable > > Of those nations that have chosen to institute Gay Marriage, perhaps > this verse applies:http://bible.cc/romans/13-1.htm > > Matthew 7:16-20 NRSV > You will know them by their fruits.http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Matthew+7%3A16-20&vnum=yes&version=nrsv > > Galatians 5:22-23 NRSV > 22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, > kindness, generosity, faithfulness,^23 gentleness, and self-control. > There is no law against such things. > > 3 Nephi 11:29 > For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention > is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and > he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another. > > It seems to me that everyone (including myself) that has any degree of > the opposite of the fruit of the spirit in any of their interactions > with others, is acting unrighteously, and righteousness might best be > measured by the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit. Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end of the day. For obvious reasons. Simple, isn't it. Michael Christ
My wife and I adopted a little boy when he was a few weeks old. He was raised in a loving and supportive family where we centered our lives on God, His values and family. We could see as our son matured that he was different. He continually witnessed the love my wife and I have for each other and experienced the relationship of family with five other siblings. One day as a teen he told us he was gay (which we had already figured out).
The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were described as wicked, evil and depraved. But these descriptions do not apply to my son.
I love my God and I hold my place as His child and I will not reject my son or those like him because of how God created them to be. Many churches purpoting to be Christian preach hatred towards people like my son who had nothing to do with how God created him.
We are all flawed and fall short before our God. His relationship is one-to-one with each of His children - straight or gay, genius or not, male or female. He created each of us unique and wonderful. We need to cherish each other for what God given gifts we share with others and stop condemning and rejecting valuable treasures that God has placed before us.
Terry Cross
Apr 26, 2013, 3:59:58 PM4/26/13
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On Apr 26, 2:19 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
Lemme try typing it again with the left elbow:
Some would view those as nerve beginnings.
TCross
wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:06 am, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 25, 1:41 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > On Apr 26, 12:06 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <d3541cf1-77f7-414c-a7e3-68c2ad7df...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> > > > > God made a woman for the man.
> > > RLMeasures wrote:
> > > > • If God made a woman from the man design why does a glans penis have
> > > > 4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
>
> > > For God's sake, wake up!
>
> > > Michael Christ
>
> > Some would view those as never beginnings.
>
> I must be getting dumber, what are you saying?
Whassa matter, you can't read through typos? :-)
> On Apr 26, 9:06 am, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 25, 1:41 pm, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > On Apr 26, 12:06 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <d3541cf1-77f7-414c-a7e3-68c2ad7df...@j5g2000pby.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> > > > > God made a woman for the man.
> > > RLMeasures wrote:
> > > > • If God made a woman from the man design why does a glans penis have
> > > > 4,000 nerve endings and a glans clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings?
>
> > > For God's sake, wake up!
>
> > > Michael Christ
>
> > Some would view those as never beginnings.
>
> I must be getting dumber, what are you saying?
Lemme try typing it again with the left elbow:
Some would view those as nerve beginnings.
TCross
Terry Cross
Apr 26, 2013, 4:03:36 PM4/26/13
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On Apr 26, 8:14 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>
> > In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TMnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>
> > <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> >> Of course. Why not?
>
> > *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>
> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
Don't worry about it. Virginity in very young children grows back,
>
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> >> Of course. Why not?
>
> > *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>
> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
according to the Talmud sages -- who apparently had experience with
extreme pederasty.
So maybe credibility does, too.
TCross
•RLMeasures
Apr 26, 2013, 8:34:41 PM4/26/13
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In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
partnerships?
tnx
<jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> > In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> > <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course. Why not?
> >
> > *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
> >
>
>
> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
*** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> > In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> > <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course. Why not?
> >
> > *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
> >
>
>
> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
partnerships?
tnx
Michael Christ
Apr 26, 2013, 8:45:39 PM4/26/13
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You are a funny...and may I say...sensual...girl.
Michael Christ
John Manning
Apr 26, 2013, 8:54:36 PM4/26/13
to
On 4/26/2013 9:34 PM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
> In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course. Why not?
>>>
>>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
>
> *** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
> partnerships?
>
> tnx
>
You're a waste of time, Rich.
>>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course. Why not?
>>>
>>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
>
> *** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
> partnerships?
>
> tnx
>
Michael Christ
Apr 26, 2013, 8:54:31 PM4/26/13
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:-).
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Apr 26, 2013, 9:02:58 PM4/26/13
to
On Apr 27, 1:14 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>
> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>
> > In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TMnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> > <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> >> Of course. Why not?
>
> > *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>
> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
Is the great John Manning the measurer of credibility??
>
> >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> >> Of course. Why not?
>
> > *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>
> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
If so, I must have missed the post.
Michael Christ
John Manning
Apr 26, 2013, 9:27:04 PM4/26/13
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>
> :-).
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
•RLMeasures
Apr 26, 2013, 9:32:24 PM4/26/13
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In article <t59ln8d6lu4gtii9d...@4ax.com>, duke
> And it keeps you out of heaven forever if not repented of.
>
• If you would not enjoy watching profusely repentant priests with
erections chasing cherubim and seraphim, then RC heaven may not be your
cup of tea.
>
• If you would not enjoy watching profusely repentant priests with
erections chasing cherubim and seraphim, then RC heaven may not be your
cup of tea.
John Manning
Apr 26, 2013, 9:46:15 PM4/26/13
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>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
Michael Christ
Apr 27, 2013, 1:03:39 AM4/27/13
to
On Apr 27, 9:46 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 10:02 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 1:14 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>
> >>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TMnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> >>> <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> >>>> Of course. Why not?
>
> >>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
A voice was heard from on high and found to be The John Manning:
> On 4/26/2013 10:02 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 1:14 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>
> >>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TMnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> >>> <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> >>>> Of course. Why not?
>
> >>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
> >> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
Michael Christ wrote:
> > Is the great John Manning the measurer of credibility??
>
> > If so, I must have missed the post.
The enormously great John Manning utters:
> > Is the great John Manning the measurer of credibility??
>
> > If so, I must have missed the post.
> I think you're missing verifiable objective reality, Mr "Christ".
I am honoured to be the joyful recipient of your decree, Mr. Manning,
sir.
Thank you.
Michael Christ
�RLMeasures
Apr 27, 2013, 10:31:46 AM4/27/13
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In article <XaadnQew38lXvObM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
*** John M. paints himself into a corner again?
�RLMeasures
Apr 27, 2013, 10:34:16 AM4/27/13
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In article
<681d0c8d-b318-4450...@vq7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 1:14=A0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, =95RLMeasures wrote:
> >
> > > In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TMnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@giganews.com>, John Mannin=
<681d0c8d-b318-4450...@vq7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 1:14=A0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, =95RLMeasures wrote:
> >
> > > In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TMnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@giganews.com>, John Mannin=
> g
> > > <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >
> > >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >
> > >> Of course. Why not?
> >
> > > *** why? =A0Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
> > > <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >
> > >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >
> > >> Of course. Why not?
> >
> >
> > Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
>
> Is the great John Manning the measurer of credibility??
>
> If so, I must have missed the post.
>
*** Chortle. The measure of John's fuse is exceedingly short.
> > Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
>
> Is the great John Manning the measurer of credibility??
>
> If so, I must have missed the post.
>
•RLMeasures
Apr 27, 2013, 10:36:45 AM4/27/13
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In article
<b1c2145f-c2bf-4bf5...@gh3g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
• Who's Harry?
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
<b1c2145f-c2bf-4bf5...@gh3g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
John Manning
Apr 27, 2013, 11:01:50 AM4/27/13
to
On 4/27/2013 11:31 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> In article <XaadnQew38lXvObM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
> In article <XaadnQew38lXvObM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/2013 9:34 PM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>>> In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>>>>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course. Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
>>>
>>> *** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
>>> partnerships?
>>>
>>> tnx
>>>
>>
>>
>> You're a waste of time, Rich.
>
> *** John M. paints himself into a corner again?
>
I've already exhaustively addressed this issue with you, Rich,
>>> In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
>>>>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course. Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
>>>
>>> *** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
>>> partnerships?
>>>
>>> tnx
>>>
>>
>>
>> You're a waste of time, Rich.
>
> *** John M. paints himself into a corner again?
>
as you well know.
I used to have respect for you to respond rationally and
reasonably. You've extensively demonstrated that you no longer do.
The multiple exchanges you've recently had with 'Revd' were your
death knells as a decent human being.
Bye. 'plonk'
John Manning
Apr 27, 2013, 11:03:09 AM4/27/13
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>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
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•RLMeasures
Apr 28, 2013, 12:21:52 AM4/28/13
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In article <88OdnUALE6zBdebM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
laugher is that all of these sex pref groups -- i.e., heteros, gays,
beasties and necros consider the other pref groups to be somewhat
unnatural.
>
> Bye. 'plonk'
<jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> On 4/27/2013 11:31 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> > In article <XaadnQew38lXvObM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> > <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/26/2013 9:34 PM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> >>> In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> >>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> >>>>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> >>>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course. Why not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
> >>>
> >>> *** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
> >>> partnerships?
> >>>
> >>> tnx
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> You're a waste of time, Rich.
> >
> > *** John M. paints himself into a corner again?
> >
>
>
> I've already exhaustively addressed this issue with you, Rich,
> as you well know.
*** Your position is all about the definition of one word.
> On 4/27/2013 11:31 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> > In article <XaadnQew38lXvObM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> > <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/26/2013 9:34 PM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> >>> In article <qJGdnfJmVKpSBOfM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> >>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/26/2013 11:41 AM, •RLMeasures wrote:
> >>>>> In article <HKmdncm_jqNxX-TM...@giganews.com>, John Manning
> >>>>> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course. Why not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *** why? Why not other unusual sexual preferences?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody takes you seriously any more, Rich. You've lost your credibility.
> >>>
> >>> *** Please explain why God endorses gay marriage instead of gay domestic
> >>> partnerships?
> >>>
> >>> tnx
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> You're a waste of time, Rich.
> >
> > *** John M. paints himself into a corner again?
> >
>
>
> I've already exhaustively addressed this issue with you, Rich,
> as you well know.
>
> I used to have respect for you to respond rationally and
> reasonably. You've extensively demonstrated that you no longer do.
> The multiple exchanges you've recently had with 'Revd' were your
> death knells as a decent human being.
*** The necros and beasties deserve equal treatment too John, The
> I used to have respect for you to respond rationally and
> reasonably. You've extensively demonstrated that you no longer do.
> The multiple exchanges you've recently had with 'Revd' were your
> death knells as a decent human being.
laugher is that all of these sex pref groups -- i.e., heteros, gays,
beasties and necros consider the other pref groups to be somewhat
unnatural.
>
> Bye. 'plonk'
Up from the Abyss
Apr 28, 2013, 1:53:37 PM4/28/13
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"Pete" wrote:
> CoG wrote:
> >
> > I know of some people who were born ...
<snip>
> > stop condemning and rejecting valuable treasures that
> > God has placed before us.
>
> How do you reconcile Gods word with Homosexual
> > God has placed before us.
>
> behavior/action and have you stressed that knowledge
> with your son. Why do I say this? The simple fact is of
> a practising homosexual that they will not go to heaven
> if they continue in an action forbidden by God.
>
> Being that God is all knowledgeable He would not have
> constructed such rules if He actually was responsible for
> such behaviors.
Yet, why was the blind man born blind?
I am confident that growing up in the home that CoG
describes, this one is well aware of what the Bible
says. But, I for one, would not attempt to deny him
some measure of happiness in this life.
Can you overcome your heterosexual desires?
Perhaps, but you are also older, and not as inflamed
as you once were with such desire.
You state that a "practicing homosexual" shall not enter
the kingdom. Neither shall many who practice many
various sins.
Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.
And *if* you are wrong, and there is no "heaven",
would you have him miserable in this life for naught?
He already knows all this, allow him to make his
own choices, and to be happy in this life, especially
if you believe that is all he has.
2Sa 12:1 And YHVH sent Nathan unto David. And
he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two
men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor.
2 The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds;
3 but the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb,
which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up
together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his
own morsel, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his
bosom, and was unto him as a daughter. 4 And there
came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take
of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the
wayfaring man that was come unto him, but took the
poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was
come to him. 5 And David's anger was greatly kindled
against the man; and he said to Nathan, As YHVH liveth,
the man that hath done this is worthy to die: 6 and he shall
restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and
because he had no pity.
7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man.
duke
Apr 28, 2013, 3:40:54 PM4/28/13
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dolf
Apr 28, 2013, 4:14:37 PM4/28/13
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On 25/04/13 7:29 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> God made a woman for the man.
>
> The end of the matter.
> Dolf, you were born a man.
>
> God made a woman for the man.
>
>
> The WORLD wants gay marriage...the alarm bells should be sounding.
>
>
Apostle Paul on wives and virgins: "There is difference also between a
wife and a virgin. The unmarried {agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1,
#40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} woman careth for the things of the Lord,
that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married
careth for the things of the world, *how she may please her husband*."
[1Corinthians 7:34]
That's right folks he's talking about sex and that marriage is concerned
with things of the world and not Christ: "For do I now persuade men, or
God? or do I seek to *please men*? for if I yet pleased men, I should
not be the servant of Christ." [Galatians 1:10]
- dolf
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html
•RLMeasures
Apr 28, 2013, 5:43:28 PM4/28/13
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In article <apuqn8pf393n2h1qv...@4ax.com>, duke
• If there are priests in Purgatory, they likely operate a boy brothel on
the side.
the side.
Michael Christ
Apr 29, 2013, 8:50:58 AM4/29/13
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are a fallen creature articulating your standards, your perceptions,
your bias, and your 'glass darkly' understanding.
"Homosexuality is delusion at the beginning of the day and at the end
of the day. For obvious reasons."
Rom_8:28 (KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to
them that love God, to them who are the called according to his
purpose.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Apr 29, 2013, 9:01:01 AM4/29/13
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On Apr 28, 11:22 am, Pete <m...@ham.mer> wrote:
legalistic humanistic religion.
You pick a behaviour you don't like and swallow the camel of the
reality of all the iniquitous behaviour that YOU participate in.
Self-righteous man-made christianity is a stench in the nostrils of
the Lord.
Yuck!
Putrid!
You sort your own dirty cistern out before you question other people's
wells, Pharisee.
No need to thank me.
Michael Christ
Pete the sinless one in his own judgement, wrote:
> How do you reconcile Gods word with Homosexual behavior/action and have you
> stressed that knowledge with your son. Why do I say this? The simple fact
> is of a practising homosexual that they will not go to heaven if they
> continue in an action forbidden by God.
>
> Being that God is all knowledgeable He would not have constructed such
> rules if He actually was responsible for such behaviors.
Shut up sleazy bastard Pete, all you have is self-righteous shallow
> How do you reconcile Gods word with Homosexual behavior/action and have you
> stressed that knowledge with your son. Why do I say this? The simple fact
> is of a practising homosexual that they will not go to heaven if they
> continue in an action forbidden by God.
>
> Being that God is all knowledgeable He would not have constructed such
> rules if He actually was responsible for such behaviors.
legalistic humanistic religion.
You pick a behaviour you don't like and swallow the camel of the
reality of all the iniquitous behaviour that YOU participate in.
Self-righteous man-made christianity is a stench in the nostrils of
the Lord.
Yuck!
Putrid!
You sort your own dirty cistern out before you question other people's
wells, Pharisee.
No need to thank me.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Apr 29, 2013, 9:03:04 AM4/29/13
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Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Apr 29, 2013, 9:25:38 AM4/29/13
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> <b1c2145f-c2bf-4bf5-bfcc-64c28f25e...@gh3g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
> • Who's Harry?
Its like calling someone 'Buddy'. I suppose 'Dickhead' also would
have sufficed.
Michael Christ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 8:59=A0pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > > On 4/26/2013 6:18 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 26, 9:57 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > > >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> > > >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> > > >> Of course. Why not?
>
> > > > I didn't ask the question, but it was answered.
>
> > > Where was it answered?
>
> > > How was it answered?
>
> > > "God" told you?
>
> > > Did you go to lunch together or what?
>
> > > Just how exactly does "God" tell you stuff"?
>
> > > And, by the way, did "God" tell you to call yourself
> > > Michael "Christ"?
>
> > > What makes you think "God" has told you anything?
>
> > > What makes you think you have any credibility?
>
> > What makes you think I have to prove anything to you, Harry?
RLMeasures wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 8:59=A0pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > > On 4/26/2013 6:18 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 26, 9:57 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> > > >> On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>
> > > >>> Does God want Gay Marriage ?
>
> > > >> Of course. Why not?
>
> > > > I didn't ask the question, but it was answered.
>
> > > Where was it answered?
>
> > > How was it answered?
>
> > > "God" told you?
>
> > > Did you go to lunch together or what?
>
> > > Just how exactly does "God" tell you stuff"?
>
> > > And, by the way, did "God" tell you to call yourself
> > > Michael "Christ"?
>
> > > What makes you think "God" has told you anything?
>
> > > What makes you think you have any credibility?
>
> > What makes you think I have to prove anything to you, Harry?
> • Who's Harry?
Its like calling someone 'Buddy'. I suppose 'Dickhead' also would
have sufficed.
Michael Christ
John Manning
Apr 29, 2013, 11:26:22 AM4/29/13
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is evidently all he can muster.
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> Michael Christ
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John Manning
Apr 29, 2013, 11:40:25 AM4/29/13
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shows up with yet another self-aggrandizing alias.
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> Michael Christ
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dolf
Apr 29, 2013, 11:14:31 PM4/29/13
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Nous: #53
Time:
Date: 2013.4.30
Torah: #200 #10 #10 %81 = #58
Dao: Increasing Evidence, Gaining Insight
Tetra: #53 - Eternity
I-Ching: H13 - Companionship
DNA: vBlack: #65 vYellow: #12 vCyan: #52 vCoral: #40
Latin: Quaestus {God quick to help} Alt: Mashyah {Pledge of God} {
1. AIDS & PROTECTS AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, BOTH VISIBLE & INVISIBLE
2. MYSTIC FEELINGS
3. SACRED PHILOSOPHY
4. Phupe
}
Salmon {Peaceable; perfect; he that rewards}
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:5,row:1,col:2
Male Idea #498
#10, #8, #400, #80
יחתפ chathaph (H2862): 1) (Qal) to seize, take away, snatch away;
"Behold, he taketh {chathaph-take [H2862]: #10, #8, #400, #80 = #498}
away {chathaph-take [H2862]: #10, #8, #400, #80 = #498}, who can hinder
him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?" [Job 9:12]
Female Idea #403
#40, #3, #10, #300, #10, #40
מגישימ nagash (H5066): 1) to draw near, approach; 1a) (Qal) to draw
or come near; 1a1) of humans; 1a1a) of sexual intercourse; 1a2) of
inanimate subject; 1a2a) to approach one another; 1b) (Niphal) to draw
near; 1c) (Hiphil) to cause to approach, bring near, bring; 1d) (Hophal)
to be brought near; 1e) (Hithpael) to draw near;
"And Abraham drew near {nagash-come [H5066]: #40, #3, #10, #300, #10,
#40 = #403}, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the
wicked?" [Genesis 18:23]
#4, #10, #5, #9, #5, #300, #70
διεθετο diatithemai (G1303): 1) to arrange, dispose of, one's own
affairs; 1a) of something that belongs to one; 1b) to dispose of by
will, make a testament; 2) to make a covenant, enter into a covenant,
with one;
"For this is the covenant that I will make {diatithemai-make [G1303]:
#4, #10, #5, #9, #5, #300, #70 = #403} with the house of Israel after
those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and
write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall
be to me a people:" [Hebrews 8:10]
Time:
Date: 2013.4.30
Torah: #200 #10 #10 %81 = #58
Dao: Increasing Evidence, Gaining Insight
Tetra: #53 - Eternity
I-Ching: H13 - Companionship
DNA: vBlack: #65 vYellow: #12 vCyan: #52 vCoral: #40
Latin: Quaestus {God quick to help} Alt: Mashyah {Pledge of God} {
1. AIDS & PROTECTS AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, BOTH VISIBLE & INVISIBLE
2. MYSTIC FEELINGS
3. SACRED PHILOSOPHY
4. Phupe
}
Salmon {Peaceable; perfect; he that rewards}
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:5,row:1,col:2
Male Idea #498
#10, #8, #400, #80
יחתפ chathaph (H2862): 1) (Qal) to seize, take away, snatch away;
"Behold, he taketh {chathaph-take [H2862]: #10, #8, #400, #80 = #498}
away {chathaph-take [H2862]: #10, #8, #400, #80 = #498}, who can hinder
him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?" [Job 9:12]
Female Idea #403
#40, #3, #10, #300, #10, #40
מגישימ nagash (H5066): 1) to draw near, approach; 1a) (Qal) to draw
or come near; 1a1) of humans; 1a1a) of sexual intercourse; 1a2) of
inanimate subject; 1a2a) to approach one another; 1b) (Niphal) to draw
near; 1c) (Hiphil) to cause to approach, bring near, bring; 1d) (Hophal)
to be brought near; 1e) (Hithpael) to draw near;
"And Abraham drew near {nagash-come [H5066]: #40, #3, #10, #300, #10,
#40 = #403}, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the
wicked?" [Genesis 18:23]
#4, #10, #5, #9, #5, #300, #70
διεθετο diatithemai (G1303): 1) to arrange, dispose of, one's own
affairs; 1a) of something that belongs to one; 1b) to dispose of by
will, make a testament; 2) to make a covenant, enter into a covenant,
with one;
"For this is the covenant that I will make {diatithemai-make [G1303]:
#4, #10, #5, #9, #5, #300, #70 = #403} with the house of Israel after
those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and
write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall
be to me a people:" [Hebrews 8:10]
dolf
Apr 29, 2013, 11:48:49 PM4/29/13
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Nous: #53
Time:
Date: 2013.4.30
Torah: #200 #10 #10 %81 = #58
Dao: Increasing Evidence, Gaining Insight
Tetra: #53 - Eternity
I-Ching: H13 - Companionship
DNA: vBlack: #65 vYellow: #12 vCyan: #52 vCoral: #40
Latin: Quaestus {God quick to help} Alt: Mashyah {Pledge of God} {
1. AIDS & PROTECTS AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, BOTH VISIBLE & INVISIBLE
2. MYSTIC FEELINGS
3. SACRED PHILOSOPHY
4. Phupe
}
Salmon {Peaceable; perfect; he that rewards}
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:5,row:1,col:2
Male Idea #498
#10, #8, #400, #80
יחתפ chathaph (H2862): 1) (Qal) to seize, take away, snatch away;
9:11 "Lo, he goeth by me, and I see him not: he passeth on also, but I
Time:
Date: 2013.4.30
Torah: #200 #10 #10 %81 = #58
Dao: Increasing Evidence, Gaining Insight
Tetra: #53 - Eternity
I-Ching: H13 - Companionship
DNA: vBlack: #65 vYellow: #12 vCyan: #52 vCoral: #40
Latin: Quaestus {God quick to help} Alt: Mashyah {Pledge of God} {
1. AIDS & PROTECTS AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, BOTH VISIBLE & INVISIBLE
2. MYSTIC FEELINGS
3. SACRED PHILOSOPHY
4. Phupe
}
Salmon {Peaceable; perfect; he that rewards}
- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:5,row:1,col:2
Male Idea #498
#10, #8, #400, #80
יחתפ chathaph (H2862): 1) (Qal) to seize, take away, snatch away;
perceive him not." [Job 9:11]
9:12 "Behold, he taketh {chathaph-take [H2862]: #10, #8, #400, #80 =
#498} away {chathaph-take [H2862]: #10, #8, #400, #80 = #498}, who can
hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?" [Job 9:12]
9:13 "If God will not withdraw his anger, the proud helpers do stoop
hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?" [Job 9:12]
under him." [Job 9:13]
9:14 "How much less shall I answer him, and choose out my words to
reason with him?" [Job 9:14]
9:15 "Whom, though I were righteous, yet would I not answer, but I would
make supplication to my judge." [Job 9:15]
9:16 "If I had called, and he had answered me; yet would I not believe
that he had hearkened unto my voice." [Job 9:16]
Peter Olcott
Apr 30, 2013, 7:09:10 AM4/30/13
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Ray
Apr 30, 2013, 1:50:35 PM4/30/13
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On Friday, April 26, 2013 12:28:39 PM UTC-5, Ray wrote:
<snip>
>The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were described as wicked, evil and depraved. But these descriptions do not apply to my son. I love my God and I hold my place as His child and I will not reject my son or those like him because of how God created them to be. Many churches purpoting to be Christian preach hatred towards people like my son who had nothing to do with how God created him. We are all flawed and fall short before our God. His relationship is one-to-one with each of His children - straight or gay, genius or not, male or female. He created each of us unique and wonderful. We need to cherish each other for what God given gifts we share with others and stop condemning and rejecting valuable treasures that God has placed before us.
I have a problem with two people of the same sex getting 'married' because marriage is between a man and a woman. But I do not have a problem with two people of the same sex who care for each other living in a committed lifestyle together and sharing the same tax relief that a married man and a woman do.
I will not speculate on what two people of the same sex do with each other unless one or both of them tells me. All I know is what I see. Anyone hetrosexual or homosexual who is flaunting a promiscuous lifestyle is living a life not pleasing to God.
Living a life pleasing to God is between an individual and God. The relationship is between the individual and God. He works with us through His Spirit, He helps us through His Spirit, He provides for us through His abundance. And he loves His children just the way they are.
John recorded Jesus as saying “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." (John 13:34) These are his disciples from all walks of life. We only know what was written about them, and none of us know other personal things about them.
God created every one of us unique and wonderful. Pauls understanding of our relationship with God is this:
"This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." (Romans 3:22-25)
We all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are all justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Jesus Christ. Even people who are drawn to those of the same gender.
<snip>
>The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were described as wicked, evil and depraved. But these descriptions do not apply to my son. I love my God and I hold my place as His child and I will not reject my son or those like him because of how God created them to be. Many churches purpoting to be Christian preach hatred towards people like my son who had nothing to do with how God created him. We are all flawed and fall short before our God. His relationship is one-to-one with each of His children - straight or gay, genius or not, male or female. He created each of us unique and wonderful. We need to cherish each other for what God given gifts we share with others and stop condemning and rejecting valuable treasures that God has placed before us.
I have a problem with two people of the same sex getting 'married' because marriage is between a man and a woman. But I do not have a problem with two people of the same sex who care for each other living in a committed lifestyle together and sharing the same tax relief that a married man and a woman do.
I will not speculate on what two people of the same sex do with each other unless one or both of them tells me. All I know is what I see. Anyone hetrosexual or homosexual who is flaunting a promiscuous lifestyle is living a life not pleasing to God.
Living a life pleasing to God is between an individual and God. The relationship is between the individual and God. He works with us through His Spirit, He helps us through His Spirit, He provides for us through His abundance. And he loves His children just the way they are.
John recorded Jesus as saying “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." (John 13:34) These are his disciples from all walks of life. We only know what was written about them, and none of us know other personal things about them.
God created every one of us unique and wonderful. Pauls understanding of our relationship with God is this:
"This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." (Romans 3:22-25)
We all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are all justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Jesus Christ. Even people who are drawn to those of the same gender.
Up from the Abyss
May 3, 2013, 2:49:10 AM5/3/13
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"Pete" wrote:
> Up from the Abyss wrote:
> >>
> >> Being that God is all knowledgeable He would not have
> >> constructed such rules if He actually was responsible for
> >> such behaviors.
> >
> > Yet, why was the blind man born blind?
>
> No doubt you have heard the phrase "in a perfect world".
> >>
> >> Being that God is all knowledgeable He would not have
> >> constructed such rules if He actually was responsible for
> >> such behaviors.
> >
> > Yet, why was the blind man born blind?
>
John 9:1-3.
> We live in an imperfect world one in which satan has
> corrupted. Why do some have crooked teeth, why
> are some missing limbs or hands or.....
>
> Lev 21 and 22 speak to the lame and halt regarding
> serving God in the temple. They are not allowed to be
> priests, it goes so far as to say the levites must have a
> straight back.
Just because they were not allowed to serve in the
priesthood, does not exclude them from the nation.
However, there are some, who shall be given a name
and a memorial.
> When Jesus came, he healed the sick and performed
> miracles on the Blind or those born with disabilities.
> Showing that it is not his will that these things happen.
Again, John 9:1-3.
> Homosexuality is a spiritual problem. It should be dealt
> with as such.
So, as you continued, it is only the result of molestation?
> Many young people have been molested by older people
> then acted that way to children younger than themselves,
> sometimes molesting more children that the adult that did
> them.
Such does not necessarily translate to homosexuality.
Otherwise, there would be far fewer abusive parents.
There are those who learned the lessons of the youth,
and chose to break the cycle. And there are those
who choose to remain in their ignorance and perpetuate
the cycle.
> The children know it is wrong but live in fear of saying
> something about it to their parents. A friend of mine
> whose boy was five went through similar trama finally
> telling his Dad even though he was threatened by the
> eight year old not to do it.
>
> I have no set answer on such things.
Nor can there be a set answer.
> I do not blame God for being the cause, especially
> when such things counteract the word of God.
And those parents are often those of the "Honor
your parents" camp, yet they themselves constantly
exasperate their children [cf Eph 6:4 ; Col 3:21].
> I understand your humane thinking about fun, but such
> fun is serious and leads to eternal death. He should
> have strong people around him in the Lord and they
> should seek the Lord or those stronger in the Lord
> regarding his deliverance. It would be a heavy burden
> for the parents, adopted or not. Yet they should not
> yield to sin.
So, better to disown the child. Let such a child be as
dead unto you.
> Hypothetically, if there were no God, no afterlife of
> anykind and we were just animals then I would stand
> in agreement with you. But my lifes experiences so far
> leads me to the truth that God is real.
Even assuming a "God" and some "afterlife", I say live
and let live. *If* you feel the need to share, and you
have done so, then you have done your duty. Beyond
that, may they enjoy life and all that it has to offer.
Particularly if you believe that is all they have.
> This type of thing, not just the homo part, but handicapped
> in general has always bothered me and my limited
> understanding. I ask God often about it.
How about:
Devarim 23:1 No one who has been emasculated by
crushing or cutting may enter the assembly of the LORD.
> It is another reason I would love to see his "Dynamite"
> power.
Yet, it is not the result of judgment or condemnation.
It is the result of love, pure and unfeigned. A great
depth of love. But it requires two loves, as in the
two great commands.
<snip>
> > He already knows all this, allow him to make his
> > own choices, and to be happy in this life, especially
> > if you believe that is all he has.
>
> hopefully the parents taught him the literal as well as the
> spiritual plus' and minuses.
I am confident that CoG did their level best. Now it is the
decision of the individual. But judgment and condemnation
shall ***NEVER*** make a difference in the life of that
one. It will only harden them. Thus, you may as well go
out and do as much yourself.
It is that great depth of mercy, of compassion and of love
that can make a difference.
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Up from the Abyss
May 4, 2013, 12:21:49 AM5/4/13
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"Pete" wrote:
> Up from the Abyss wrote:
> >>
<snip>
> >
> > However, there are some, who shall be given a name
> > and a memorial.
>
> In heaven they will be whole.
> > However, there are some, who shall be given a name
> > and a memorial.
>
It says, a name and a memorial. It does not say anything
beyond that [cf Isa 56].
<snip>
> >> I do not blame God for being the cause, especially
> >> when such things counteract the word of God.
> >
> > And those parents are often those of the "Honor
> > your parents" camp, yet they themselves constantly
> > exasperate their children [cf Eph 6:4 ; Col 3:21].
>
Indeed.
> >> I understand your humane thinking about fun, but such
> >> fun is serious and leads to eternal death. He should
> >> have strong people around him in the Lord and they
> >> should seek the Lord or those stronger in the Lord
> >> regarding his deliverance. It would be a heavy burden
> >> for the parents, adopted or not. Yet they should not
> >> yield to sin.
> >
> > So, better to disown the child. Let such a child be as
> > dead unto you.
>
So what are they supposed to do?
> >> Hypothetically, if there were no God, no afterlife of
> >> anykind and we were just animals then I would stand
> >> in agreement with you. But my lifes experiences so far
> >> leads me to the truth that God is real.
> >
> > Even assuming a "God" and some "afterlife", I say live
> > and let live. *If* you feel the need to share, and you
> > have done so, then you have done your duty. Beyond
> > that, may they enjoy life and all that it has to offer.
> >
> > Particularly if you believe that is all they have.
>
> well worth it if it guarantee's one a place in heaven.
So much for God desiring a "joyous" people.
> >> The child will have to make his own personal descisions,
> >> hopefully the parents taught him the literal as well as the
> >> spiritual plus' and minuses.
> >
> > I am confident that CoG did their level best. Now it is the
> > decision of the individual. But judgment and condemnation
> > shall ***NEVER*** make a difference in the life of that
> > one. It will only harden them. Thus, you may as well go
> > out and do as much yourself.
> >
> > It is that great depth of mercy, of compassion and of love
> > that can make a difference.
>
> and accept homo as a good thing. I would have hoped they
> instructed their son well before setting him loose.
I did not see them excuse it. I saw that they accepted and
loved their child regardless.
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