Are you your brothers keeper?

[Snow]

One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”

I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...

YES.


That sums up the rest of the book. Have a good day.


Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

[Nancy Deacon]

~~~
Nancy

Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
yours, then you do not belong to God.

They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
be my brothers.

11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and
murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works
were evil and his brother's righteous
1 John 3:11-12 (NKJV)

Now, you have a good day

[Rod]

On 5/23/2013 2:21 PM, Snow wrote:
> One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the

> murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother�s guard?�

>
> I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> YES.
>
>
> That sums up the rest of the book. Have a good day.
>
>
> Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>

It says it all...

[Terry Cross]

On May 23, 12:57 pm, Nancy Deacon <nw...@live.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > YES.
>
> > That sums up the rest of the book. Have a good day.
>
> > Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> ~~~
> Nancy
>
> Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
> They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> be my brothers.

This is the same kind of "charity" that is woven into Judaism. Non-
Jews may be robbed, beaten or even killed by a Jew with impunity. The
Jewish rules of morality apply only to Jew on Jew conduct. This is
the Talmud Law.

But only extremely aberrant Christians have ever preached that idea.
It is an abomination. I am disappointed in you.

If you recall the story of the Good Samaritan, Jesus repudiated any
clannish limitation on charity. Jesus healed Gentiles and Jews with
no distinction. He preached to Gentiles and Jews for almost three
years in Galilee of the Gentiles before traveling to Jerusalem where
he was promptly killed after a few weeks.

TCross

[Nancy]

On May 23, 6:36 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 12:57 pm, Nancy Deacon <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > > YES.
>
> > > That sums up the rest of the book.  Have a good day.
>
> > > Mat 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> > ~~~
> > Nancy
>
> > Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> > yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
> >  They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> > be my brothers.
>
> This is the same kind of "charity" that is woven into Judaism.  Non-
> Jews may be robbed, beaten or even killed by a Jew with impunity.  The
> Jewish rules of morality apply only to Jew on Jew conduct.  This is
> the Talmud Law.

~~~
Nancy

My allegiance is to God and God alone. You can not entertain satan
without getting burnt.

Charity? Lets look at the physical.......Look at the money the USA has
given to countries that hate us....has this money made any
difference? These countries want, pray and work for the fall of those
that are charitable. So you see, T, charity doesn't mean a thing


~~~

> But only extremely aberrant Christians have ever preached that idea.
> It is an abomination.  I am disappointed in you.

~~~
Nancy

So be it....you are a foolish person to take anything and everything
as your brother.
God says to test the spirits.

1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether
they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the
world
1 John 4:1 (NKJV)

~~~

> If you recall the story of the Good Samaritan, Jesus repudiated any
> clannish limitation on charity.  Jesus healed Gentiles and Jews with
> no distinction.  He preached to Gentiles and Jews for almost three
> years in Galilee of the Gentiles before traveling to Jerusalem where
> he was promptly killed after a few weeks.
>

> TCross-

~~~
Nancy

Jesus didn't take all He healed and preached to as a brother, did He?
~~~

[Terry Cross]

Threatening, but irrelevant. Gentiles are not Satan.

> Charity? Lets look at the physical.......Look at the money the USA has
> given to countries that hate us....has this money made any
> difference?  These countries want, pray and work for the fall of those
> that are charitable. So you see, T, charity doesn't mean a thing

Are you saying the teachings of Jesus do not "mean a thing" or "make a
difference" because they did not return riches to the giver or buy
peace? Is that your point?

TCross

[Nancy]

~~~
Nancy
Threating? To Whom? Allow me to tell you what God says about the
gentiles.

In the physical, gentiles are to assimilate in the nation of Israel
THEN THEY COULD BECOME AS A BROTHER.

22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for
yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear
children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the
children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the
tribes of Israel.
Ezek 47:22 (NKJV)

Gentiles as a spiritual brother.....UNLESS they can come as God
DEMANDS they can not be a brother.

22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by
works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which
says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for
righteousness." And he was called the friend of God.
James 2:21-23 (NKJV)

Are you so elementary in God's Word that you don't believe this
warning was given with a purpose?

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand
against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh
and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the
rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of
wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole
armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and
having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your
waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15
and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able
to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the
helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of
God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,
being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for
all the saints--
Eph 6:10-18 (NKJV)

~~~

> > Charity? Lets look at the physical.......Look at the money the USA has
> > given to countries that hate us....has this money made any
> > difference?  These countries want, pray and work for the fall of those
> > that are charitable. So you see, T, charity doesn't mean a thing
>
> Are you saying the teachings of Jesus do not "mean a thing" or "make a
> difference" because they did not return riches to the giver or buy
> peace?  Is that your point?
>

> TCross-

~~~
Nancy
Your shallowness in God's Word precedes you. I will not lower myself
to even give a reply.
~~~

[Snow]

On May 25, 12:46 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
> Nancy
> Threating? To Whom? Allow me to tell you what God says about the
> gentiles.
>
> In the physical, gentiles are to assimilate in the nation of Israel
> THEN THEY COULD BECOME AS A BROTHER.
>
> 22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for
> yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear
> children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the
> children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the
> tribes of Israel.
> Ezek 47:22 (NKJV)
>
> Gentiles as a spiritual brother.....UNLESS they can come as God
> DEMANDS they can not be a brother.

Hey Nancy, Who do you think created those devils and do you believe
human beings you meet are devils?

Exo 14:14 “YAHWEH does fight for you, and you keep still.”

[Dr. R. Knapp]

God created good and bad angels then it is up to that angel as to what
they will do. God does not make them do evil, as God made man and we
do as we want, God may be glad or not with us, but what we do, we are
responsible for and only us. Humans are not devils, some act like
they are, but what they do is what they want to do. The bible shows
us that we are to treat strangers well as they could be a angel, but a
Angel good or bad is just that. A human is always a human, God made
all creation, but did no made any that can change their being from
devil to angel, to demon etc. There is ONLY ONE DEVIL THE REST ARE
DEMONS that is another group that rebelled against God and are evil.
A Gentile is just a unbeliever, no matter who they are or what
religion or such, any Gentile that is a spiritual brother is no longer
a Gentile, as they have excepted Christ JESUS
>
> Exo 14:14 “YAHWEH does fight for you, and you keep still.”- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Nancy]

On May 24, 10:53 am, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
> On May 25, 12:46 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nancy
> > Threating? To Whom? Allow me to tell you what God says about the
> > gentiles.
>
> > In the physical, gentiles are to assimilate in the nation of Israel
> > THEN THEY COULD BECOME AS A BROTHER.
>
> > 22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for
> > yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear
> > children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the
> > children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the
> > tribes of Israel.
> > Ezek 47:22 (NKJV)
>
> > Gentiles as a spiritual brother.....UNLESS they can come as God
> > DEMANDS they can not be a brother.
>
> Hey Nancy, Who do you think created those devils

~~~
Nancy
It wasn't God. God created the being Lucifer.....he made himself into
satan. The same with the angels that followed him.

Does God use their evilness? Yes, He does...to teach AND punish.

12 "How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.'
Isaiah 14:12-14 (NKJV)

~~~

>and do you believe
> human beings you meet are devils?

~~~
Nancy
The grestest persecution in the history of the Church is about to
unfold and YOU are on here implying that Christians should take
anything and everything as their brother. YOUR spirit does NOT jive
with that of God!

You have set ourself up as a teacher....when YOU need God to teach
YOU.....start with a Bible study on ~test the spirits~.
~~~

[Terry Cross]

Yes, known well all these racist hateful things that Jews preach to
each other about Gentiles. Antisemitism is mostly the emotional
backwash a Jew feels from her own hatred of Gentiles.

TCross

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:

We should be our brothers protector. That does not mean we are his
guard, as a guard stops the freedom of a person and keeps them under
their control, without and require to what they want, like a prisoner.

R Knapp

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 23, 3:57 pm, Nancy Deacon <nw...@live.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > YES.
>
> > That sums up the rest of the book.  Have a good day.
>
> > Mat 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> ~~~
> Nancy
>
> Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
>  They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> be my brothers.

Well if that is true, why did God tell us to witness to them and
convert them to Jesus? They can be your brother or sister, if you
tell them about Jesus and the way of salvation. In a way all could
be saved and all could be our brother, but if we do not tell them and
will NEVER tell them, then are we really a brother in Christ Jesus,
that tells us to tell all the world, not only the good folks.

>
> 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we
> should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and
> murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works
> were evil and his brother's righteous
> 1 John 3:11-12 (NKJV)

Remember one can forgive Cain also, as no one was killed or murdered
before he id his brother. So there was no law or rule not to kill at
that time, till after he murdered his brother.

[Snow]

Sometimes people need to be protected from themselves too. I can't
help it the world is filled with fanatics, I deal with real world
people that have been brainwashed into thinking violence is cool and
they have facebook cover pictures with guns and post anti-muslim
bullshit on their page.

Why do we worry ourselves with what other people believe? In it's
very essence, we make war not because we are strong but because we are
weak and fearful. Violence only creates more violence in an endless
cycle of destruction and we know this is truth.

If he who employs voilence against me could mould me to his purposes
with it, no doubt he would try to be my master. He pretends to punish
others because his argument is strong; but he really punishes them
because his argument is weak so we answer with fear and aggression. We
pretend that other human beings are primitive and unworthy of our love
to excuse the fact that we are not giving it.

[Snow]

On May 28, 5:02 am, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:

> Remember one can forgive Cain also, as no one was killed or murdered
> before he id his brother.   So there was no law or rule not to kill at
> that time, till after he murdered his brother.

Not true if you believe the scriptures.

Gen 4:7 “If you do well, is there not acceptance? And if you do not do
well, -sin is crouching at the door. And its desire is for you, but
you should master it.”
Footnote: -Sin (transgression of the law) was already then known,

Even John in the New Testement says:

2Jn 1:5 And now I ask you, Kuria, not as though I wrote a fresh
*command to you, but that which we have had from the beginning*: that
we love one another.

See, we had commandments from the beginning. Also, the Sabbath is the
recognition of the seventh day of creation.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day Elohim completed His work which He had
done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had
made.

[Nancy]

On May 27, 3:02 pm, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 3:57 pm, Nancy Deacon <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > > YES.
>
> > > That sums up the rest of the book.  Have a good day.
>
> > > Mat 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> > ~~~
> > Nancy
>
> > Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> > yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
> >  They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> > be my brothers.
>
> Well if that is true, why did God tell us to witness to them and
> convert them to Jesus?  They can be your brother or sister, if you
> tell them about Jesus and the way of salvation.   In a way all could
> be saved and all could be our brother, but if we do not tell them and
> will NEVER tell them, then are we really a brother in Christ Jesus,
> that tells us to tell all the world, not only the good folks.

~~~
Nancy
From the the beginning God put a division in humanity, before Cain and
Able were born.

15 And I will put enmity (hatred)

Between you (bad seed) and the woman (good seed),

And between your seed (bad seed:Jer.24:8-10) and her Seed (good seed:
Jer.24:2-7);

He shall bruise your head,

And you shall bruise His heel."
Gen 3:15 (NKJV)
~~~

> > 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we
> > should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and
> > murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works
> > were evil and his brother's righteous
> > 1 John 3:11-12 (NKJV)
>
> Remember one can forgive Cain also, as no one was killed or murdered
> before he id his brother.   So there was no law or rule not to kill at

> that time, till after he murdered his brother.- Hide quoted text -

~~~
Nancy
What are you a Dr. of? That you are so proud of it you put it before
your name on a news-group?

[Nancy]

> to excuse the fact that we are not giving it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

~~~
Nancy
What you believe is your business, BUT you have set youself up as a
teacher of God's Word. What you are teaching does NOT agree with what
God says.

God has set the rules NOT you....God says "TEST THE SPIRITS"....for a
reason. You are leading gullible people into the opposite of what God
says.

You are right on one thing.....what I think or say does not
nmatter....it's God you need to worry about.

[Snow]

On May 28, 7:28 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:

> Nancy
> What you believe is your business, BUT you have set youself up as a
> teacher of God's Word. What you are teaching does NOT agree with what
> God says.
>
> God has set the rules NOT you....God says "TEST THE SPIRITS"....for a
> reason. You are leading gullible people into the opposite of what God
> says.
>
> You are right on one thing.....what I think or say does not
> nmatter....it's God you need to worry about.

Your deity is a pagan deity to me .. I do not have to do any such
absurd thing.. You fail to realize that YOU are the one world
religion. You do not know the name of your own deity, how would you
suppose to tell me what to do?

Just because you fail to understand the story of the good Samaritan or
the law of compassion doesn't mean we should have a contest of my
deity being bigger than your deity and I'm certainly not going to
waste my time telling you what you need to do unless...

You ask for my witness. Be a witness, not a fable maker.

[Terry Cross]

Gentiles are not Satan. Jesus worked with unbelievers for three years
in Galilee. As you might recall, it was the Jews who arranged for him
to be killed, not the Gentiles.

TCross

[Terry Cross]

Nancy, Jews have used racism to punish and abuse gentiles for
thousands of years. Don't you think it is time you rose above that?

TCross

[Nancy]

On May 27, 6:24 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
> On May 28, 7:28 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > Nancy
> > What you believe is your business, BUT you have set youself up as a
> > teacher of God's Word. What you are teaching does NOT agree with what
> > God says.
>
> > God has set the rules NOT you....God says "TEST THE SPIRITS"....for a
> > reason. You are leading gullible people into the opposite of what God
> > says.
>
> > You are right on one thing.....what I think or say does not
> > nmatter....it's God you need to worry about.
>
> Your deity is a pagan deity to me .. I do not have to do any such
> absurd thing.. You fail to realize that YOU are the one world
> religion.  You do not know the name of your own deity, how would you
> suppose to tell me what to do?

~~~
Nancy

What you have said has been accordingly recorded.

~~~

[Nancy]

> TCross-

~~~
Nancy

That is a lie straight from satan. The Jews nor the Gentiles killed
Christ. The humans were no more than a tool.

6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the
wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to
nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden
wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none
of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, THEY WOULD NOT
HAVE CRUCIFIED THE LORD OF GLORY
1 Cor 2:6-8 (NKJV)

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His
might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand

against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh
and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the
rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of
wickedness in the heavenly places

Eph 6:10-12 (NKJV)

~~~
Nancy
When Christ said these words do you really think He was talking to
humans? What human, in that group, could have been alive when
Zechariah, son of Berekiah was killed?

35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth,
from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of
Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar
Matt 23:35 (NKJV)

[Nancy]

~~~
Nancy

I stand with God and on His Word.
~~~

[Snow]

On May 28, 9:04 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:

> > Your deity is a pagan deity to me .. I do not have to do any such
> > absurd thing.. You fail to realize that YOU are the one world
> > religion.  You do not know the name of your own deity, how would you
> > suppose to tell me what to do?
>
> ~~~
> Nancy
>
> What you have said has been accordingly recorded.

See, you know your own name pretty good .. all full of pride to make
sure thats in the post... record away. You still haven't told me the
name of your pagan deity.

[Terry Cross]

I was not aware that Satan wrote the Gospels. I guess learning stuff
like that makes my time on Usenet all worthwhile.

TCross

[Snow]

On May 28, 9:18 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
=

> ~~~
> Nancy
>
> That is a lie straight from satan. The Jews nor the Gentiles killed
> Christ. The  humans were no more than a tool.

=

Mat 20:19 and deliver Him to the gentiles to mock and to flog and to
impale. And the third day He shall be raised.”

It's pretty clear that gentiles did murdered him or don't you believe
Yeshua?

[Terry Cross]

It is also pretty clear that the Jews delivered Jesus to the Romans
for that exact purpose, yes? And also, the Jews provided the slander
testimony, paid for the traitor, and plotted Jesus' death.

TCross

[Dr. R. Knapp]

Well all this is strange to me, as I worked for Jews, and we were very
close friends and took care of each other, never had any Jews that was
like the ones you seem to be pointing to here. My Sister been the
business manger for the company that is own and most are Jewish, she
is not, and works for the church as her dedication to God. Her boss
came over to Hong Kong where we do ministry for the Church and God,
and made sure he took us out for lunch and also seen his products and
such. I knew one of the guys that worked for the company that was
numbered for the fire by the Nazis and he always called me "The little
brother". We are still friends and been such for the last 65 years.
I have never met any Jews that showed hatred of Gentiles.



>
> TCross

[Nancy]

~~~
Nancy

Again you are correct.....Nancy Deacon is my name....no titles.

The name of my God is The Ancient of Days, do you know Him?

[Nancy]

> TCross- Hide quoted text -

~~~
Nancy
You would do better to spend time in the Bible.
~~~

[Nancy]

~~~
Nancy
14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
Matt 13:14 (NKJV)

[Terry Cross]

[Terry Cross]

On May 28, 7:55 am, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you been to Israel lately and been spat on by the Orthodox Jews?
Quite an experience, I'm told. Jewish spit is kinda special -- must
be a blessing.

> My Sister been the
> business manger for the company that is own and most are Jewish, she
> is not, and works for the church as her dedication to God. Her boss
> came over to Hong Kong where we do ministry for the Church and God,
> and made sure he took us out for lunch and also seen his products and
> such. I knew one of the guys that worked for the company that was
> numbered for the fire by the Nazis and he always called me "The little
> brother". We are still friends and been such for the last 65 years.
> I have never met any Jews that showed hatred of Gentiles.

I have also known many people who call themselves "Jews." Some are
jewels, some are dross, and some are amazingly wicked people who hate
all Gentiles and view the hegemony of Israel as a divine mission. Do
you remember Baruch Goldstein? Do you remember what they said at his
funeral? "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." --
Rabbi Ya'acov Perin in his eulogy at the funeral of mass murderer Dr.
Baruch Goldstein.

How about Ben Gurion? "Let us not ignore the truth among
ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend
themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas
we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to
take away from them their country. ... Behind the terrorism [by the
Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism
and self sacrifice."-- David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of
Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism
and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

The list goes on and on.

TCross

[Snow]

Joh 13:35 “By this shall all know that you are My taught ones, if you
have love for one another.”

[Nancy]

> have love for one another.”- Hide quoted text -

~~~
Nancy
You know, if it wasn't God's Word....you would be comical, BUT it is
God's Word.


Why are we told to ~test the spirits~? To SEE who our brother is! We
all belong to the human race, BUT that does NOT mean we are brothers
in the eyes of God.

Go back and read where God placed a division in humanity (Gen.3:15)

Those that are NOT the brother of Christians will NOT be resurrected.

You really need to do a Bible study on ~test the spirits~. There is a
REASON God gave Chrisianity this information.

[Snow]

Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Master, and He shall
lift you up.
Jas 4:11 Brothers, do not speak against one another. He that speaks
against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against Torah and
judges Torah. And if you judge Torah, you are not a doer of Torah but
a judge.
Jas 4:12 There is one Lawgiver and Judge, who is able to save and to
destroy. Who are you to judge another?

I find in my own practice that it is more important to be loving then
it is to be right. I wish you well on your walk sister. Take care
and be blessed.

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 27, 7:55 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:

Well if anyone believes who killed Jesus Yeshua it was the sin of
people, all people that sins and does so because they want to sin.
People of SIN was the ones that murdered the LORD.

[Snow]

On May 29, 12:48 pm, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Mat 20:19 and deliver Him to the gentiles to mock and to flog and to
> > impale. And the third day He shall be raised.”
>
> > It's pretty clear that gentiles did murdered him or don't you believe
> > Yeshua?
>
> Well if anyone believes who killed Jesus Yeshua it was the sin of
> people, all people that sins and does so because they want to sin.
> People of SIN was the ones that murdered the LORD.

Strange. I can read and that passage says gentiles.

Luk 18:32 For he shall be delivered to the Gentiles, and shall be
mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:

Luke confirms it. What's not to believe?

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 28, 4:19 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 7:55 am, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Well all this is strange to me, as I worked for Jews, and we were very
> > close friends and took care of each other, never had any Jews that was
> > like the ones you seem to be pointing to here.
>
> Have you been to Israel lately and been spat on by the Orthodox Jews?
> Quite an experience, I'm told.  Jewish spit is kinda special -- must
> be a blessing.

No I have not been to Israel but in New York and New Jersey for many
years. I would spat right back at that orthodox Jew if he did that on
me, or have him arrested for assault. I could bless them with a can of
car oil as a return blessings. Then the police can do their job for
me. A blessing for a blessing anointing with oil is a bible
commandment. I may also talk to some of my good Jewish friends that
have known me for the last 50 years and see what they wanted to do,
for the insult that was made on their friend.

> > My Sister been the
> > business manger for the company that is own and most are Jewish, she
> > is not, and works for the church as her dedication to God.  Her boss
> > came over to Hong Kong where we do ministry for the Church and God,
> > and made sure he took us out for lunch and also seen his products and
> > such.  I knew one of the guys that worked for the company that was
> > numbered for the fire by the Nazis and he always called me "The little
> > brother".  We are still friends and been such for the last 65 years.
> > I have never met any Jews that showed hatred of Gentiles.
>
> I have also known many people who call themselves "Jews."  Some are
> jewels, some are dross, and some are amazingly wicked people who hate
> all Gentiles and view the hegemony of Israel as a divine mission.  Do
> you remember Baruch Goldstein?  Do you remember what they said at his
> funeral?  "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." --
> Rabbi Ya'acov Perin in his eulogy at the funeral of mass murderer Dr.
> Baruch Goldstein.

That means nothing, like I was told as a child, sticks and stones may
break MY bonds words can never hurt me. They can say what they want
and so can we, it is noise and really only shows how ignorant they
really are. Then Hitler seem not to think a million Jews were worth
nothing but fire wood. I knew some folks that are Goldstein's then I
could care less what they think about Jews, Christians, or anyone
else.

>
> How about Ben Gurion?  "Let us not ignore the truth among
> ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend
> themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas
> we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to
> take away from them their country. ... Behind the terrorism [by the
> Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism
> and self sacrifice."-- David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of
> Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism
> and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
>
> The list goes on and on.
>

> TCross- Hide quoted text -
>

> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, then we do not have to read what they wrote, my paper shatter
does a great job for such trash words.

[Snow]

On May 29, 10:08 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:

> Those that are NOT the brother of Christians will NOT be resurrected.
>
> You really need to do a Bible study on ~test the spirits~. There is a
> REASON God gave Chrisianity this information.

Mat 5:44 “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those cursing
you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those insulting you and
persecuting you,
Mat 5:45 so that you become sons of your Father in the heavens.
Because He makes His sun rise on the wicked and on the good, and sends
rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 6:35,
Acts 14:16-17.
Mat 5:46 “For if you love those loving you, what reward have you? Are
the tax collectors not doing the same too?
Mat 5:47 “And if you greet your brothers only, what do you do more
than others? Are the tax collectors not doing so too?
Mat 5:48 “Therefore, be perfect,1 as your Father in the heavens is
perfect. Footnote: 1Ex. 17:1, Ps. 119:1, 1 John 2:5, Heb. 6:1.

[Linda Lee]

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into
the world.

[Nancy]

~~~
Nancy
Yes, Snow, your PHYSICAL enemies. Those that can kill the BODY. Those
that kill the spirit we are NOT to take as a brother. They are enemies
of God. You seem not able to distinguish the difference.

It will take God to show you this....I pray He does before it is too
late.

As a footnote.....a physical nation can not take their enemy as their
brother. If they do that brother will destroy them. This is why there
were so many wars after the nation of Israel was established.

[Snow]

On May 29, 10:19 pm, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 7:20 am, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 10:08 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > Those that are NOT the brother of Christians will NOT be resurrected.
>
> > > You really need to do a Bible study on ~test the spirits~. There is a
> > > REASON God gave Chrisianity this information.
>
> > Mat 5:44 “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those cursing
> > you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those insulting you and
> > persecuting you,
> > Mat 5:45 so that you become sons of your Father in the heavens.
> > Because He makes His sun rise on the wicked and on the good, and sends
> > rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 6:35,
> > Acts 14:16-17.
> > Mat 5:46 “For if you love those loving you, what reward have you? Are
> > the tax collectors not doing the same too?
> > Mat 5:47 “And if you greet your brothers only, what do you do more
> > than others? Are the tax collectors not doing so too?
> > Mat 5:48 “Therefore, be perfect,1 as your Father in the heavens is
> > perfect. Footnote: 1Ex. 17:1, Ps. 119:1, 1 John 2:5, Heb. 6:1.
>
> ~~~
> Nancy
> Yes, Snow, your PHYSICAL enemies. Those that can kill the BODY. Those
> that kill the spirit we are NOT to take as a brother. They are enemies
> of God. You seem not able to distinguish the difference.

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy
from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a
precedent that will reach to himself.

If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.
Thomas Paine

[Nancy]

> Thomas Paine- Hide quoted text -

~~~
Nancy
I take God over Thomas Paine and you.

1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether
they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the
world
1 John 4:1 (NKJV)

[Snow]

Ideas don't compete, egos do. Take care.

[Snow]

I'm fine with you keeping your beliefs Nancy but simply for the sake
of discussion, Let's speak of the greatest command you of course
personally follow.

Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the great command in the Torah?”
Mat 22:37 And [YESHUA] יהושע said to him, “ ‘You shall love [YAHWEH]
יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and
with all your mind.’
Mat 22:38 “This is the first and great command.
Mat 22:39 “And the second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbour
as yourself.’
Mat 22:40 “On these two commands hang all the Torah and the
Prophets.”

The great command is that we love, not that we exercise our judgment
over other people Nancy.

Mat 7:1 “Do not judge, lest you be judged.

Jas 4:12 There is one Lawgiver and Judge, who is able to save and to
destroy. Who are you to judge another?

In the end we must recognize that we all come from one source. Love.

It is far more important to be loving. Especially when you consider:

Isa 45:5 ‘I am [YAHWEH] יהוה, and there is none else – there is no
Elohim besides Me. I gird you, though you have not known Me,
Isa 45:6 so that they know from the rising of the sun to its setting
that there is none but Me. I am [YAHWEH] יהוה, and there is none
else,
Isa 45:7 forming light and creating darkness, making peace and
creating evil. I, [YAHWEH] יהוה, do all these.’

Everything is of one source... How would you explain it? I bet you
would say, "If it be his will."

It's more important to be loving and compassionate then it is to be
right by my own judgment.

Take care and be blessed. We are required by scriptures to warn our
brothers of the fact that their behavior is wrong.

Eze 3:17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of
Yisra’ĕl. And you shall hear a word from My mouth, and shall warn them
from Me.

Why do we presume to speak for the Almighty? The applicable words
are, “from My mouth”, have all of you heard the Almighty speaking to
you from his mouth to your ears?

Eze 3:19 “But if you have warned the wrong and he does not turn from
his wrong, nor from his wrong way, he shall die in his crookedness,
and you have delivered your being.

When we speak our peace to other people, we have fulfilled our
obligation to warn our brothers when they are wrong. Why do people
live in judgment of other people when clearly scriptures teach us not
to do this? If we believe somebody is in error, we should speak up
but then,

Pro 26:20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there
is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

Scriptures repeat over and over that we should leave them alone:

Isa 55:7 Let the wrong forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his
thoughts. Let him return to Yahweh, who has compassion on him, and to
our Elohim, for He pardons much. 8 “For My thoughts are not your
thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,” declares Yahweh. 9 “For as
the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your
ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.

Let the wrong forsake his way! WOW, you mean it’s not our job to go
around accusing every other person of being the antichrist?

Rev 22:11 “He who does wrong, let him do more wrong; he who is filthy,
let him be more filthy; he who is righteous, let him be more
righteous; he who is set-apart, let him be more set-apart.

Are we seeing this? He who is wrong, LET HIM DO MORE WRONG… This
can’t be true, how could this be in the bible?

Eze 3:27 “But when I speak with you, I open your mouth, and you shall
say to them, ‘Thus said the Master Yahweh.’ He who hears, let him
hear. And he who refuses, let him refuse, for they are a rebellious
house.

He who refuses, “Let him refuse”… You mean the idea of leaving people
that you might consider wicked alone isn’t a unique teaching?

Mar 8:33 And turning around and seeing His taught ones, He rebuked
Kĕpha, saying, “Get behind Me, Satan! For your thoughts are not those
of Elohim, but those of men.”

That our thoughts are not his thoughts aren’t unique is something we
should all consider in our peaceful journey forward. Learning to
respect even those that disagree with us is not something unscriptural
or some fancy new age teaching.

Mat 15:13 But He answering, said, “Every plant which My heavenly
Father has not planted shall be uprooted.
Mat 15:14 “Leave them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And
if the blind leads the blind, both shall fall into a ditch.”

It’s not something only the Messiah taught, it’s Old Testament.

Hos 4:17 “Ephrayim is joined to idols, let him alone.

I have no doubt that this is a hard teaching to follow for us.. that
we let them be what they are but in doing so, we submit to the
teachings of our scriptures and show by our works, the faith that
motivate our actions.

Hos 4:4 “However, let no one strive or reprove another, for your
people are like those striving with a priest. 5 “And you shall
stumble in the day, and the prophet shall also stumble with you in the
night. And I shall make your mother perish. 6 “My people have
perished for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I
reject you from being priest for Me. Since you have forgotten the
Torah of your Elohim, I also forget your children.

Yahweh desires that we know and understand but this does not happen
when we waste our time passing OUR judgment on our other people. The
scriptures are very clear in that we are not to strive with other
people. Now this is not to say that we can’t have a spirited debate
which by the very meaning is righteous, only that it is not our place
to seek to subvert other peoples understandings.

Eze 18:23 “Have I any pleasure in the death of the wrong?” declares
the Master Yahweh. “Is it not that he should turn from his ways, and
live?

I strongly recommend people read Ezekiel especially chapters, 3, 18
and 33 which are all relevant to the topic.

Deu 17:12 “And the man who acts arrogantly, so as not to listen to the
priest who stands to serve there before Yahweh your Elohim, or to the
judge, that man shall die. So you shall purge the evil from IsraEL.

We have ONE JUDGE and ONE CREATOR who will judge all, don’t try to
think it’s you. Be Humble.


*´¨)
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)


The heart of another is a dark forest, always, no matter how close it
has been to one's own.
Willa Cather

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation,
nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 24, 10:53 am, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:

> On May 25, 12:46 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nancy
> > Threating? To Whom? Allow me to tell you what God says about the
> > gentiles.
>
> > In the physical, gentiles are to assimilate in the nation of Israel
> > THEN THEY COULD BECOME AS A BROTHER.
>
> > 22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for
> > yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear
> > children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the
> > children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the
> > tribes of Israel.
> > Ezek 47:22 (NKJV)
>
> > Gentiles as a spiritual brother.....UNLESS they can come as God
> > DEMANDS they can not be a brother.
>

> Hey Nancy, Who do you think created those devils and do you believe
> human beings you meet are devils?

There is only one Devil the others are demons, and the Creator as I
know did not create demons, I suppose it is like a man and woman they
make the babies we create the child not God. The Devil could made
the demons, I wonder what your view on this is?

R. Knapp

>
> Exo 14:14 “YAHWEH does fight for you, and you keep still.”

[Snow]

On May 30, 5:25 am, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey Nancy, Who do you think created those devils and do you believe
> > human beings you meet are devils?
>
> There is only one Devil the others are demons, and the Creator as I
> know did not create demons, I suppose it is like a man and woman they
> make the babies we create the child not God.   The Devil could made
> the demons, I wonder what your view on this is?
>

Isa 45:7 forming light and creating darkness, making peace and

creating evil. I, יהוה, do all these.’

The scriptures are clear in that everything is of one source, one
energy.

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 27, 3:15 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:

> On May 28, 5:02 am, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
> > > On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > > > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > > > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > > > YES.
>
> > > > That sums up the rest of the book.  Have a good day.
>
> > > > Mat 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > > > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> > > ~~~
> > > Nancy
>
> > > Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> > > yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
> > >  They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> > > be my brothers.
>

> > Well if that is true, why did God tell us to witness to them and
> > convert them to Jesus?  They can be your brother or sister, if you
> > tell them about Jesus and the way of salvation.   In a way all could
> > be saved and all could be our brother, but if we do not tell them and
> > will NEVER tell them, then are we really a brother in Christ Jesus,
> > that tells us to tell all the world, not only the good folks.
>
> > > 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we
> > > should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and
> > > murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works
> > > were evil and his brother's righteous
> > > 1 John 3:11-12 (NKJV)
>
> > Remember one can forgive Cain also, as no one was killed or murdered
> > before he id his brother.   So there was no law or rule not to kill at
> > that time, till after he murdered his brother.
>
> Sometimes people need to be protected from themselves too.  I can't
> help it the world is filled with fanatics, I deal with real world
> people that have been brainwashed into thinking violence is cool and
> they have facebook cover pictures with guns and post anti-muslim
> bullshit on their page.

I am not sure who you really deal with in this real world, but I do
not find any reason to bring that you knew folks that were violence as
I was one of them as a teenager, and with guns and knifes and game
fighting. What is your reason to use vulgar statements.

> Why do we worry ourselves with what other people believe?  In it's
> very essence, we make war not because we are strong but because we are
> weak and fearful. Violence only creates more violence in an endless
> cycle of destruction and we know this is truth.

I find it is smart to worry ourselves to them that could hurt us,
steal, murder us, so yes I do keep an eye on such people that are near
to me. I been in Muslim areas of the world and have to keep my eye on
some, as they made it known that they kill infidels with our any care
for them. Maybe you are weak and fearful, I sure am not and will
defend my own and my nation as I have done in the military for six
years. Only cowards made up excuses for their weaknesses. Violence
can also end all violence as did the A-bomb in Japan, two of them and
the war was over and thousands lived because of that violence. If you
in some kind of endless cycle then you do not know how to defend and
remove the problem that started the trouble.


> If he who employs voilence against me could mould me to his purposes
> with it, no doubt he would try to be my master. He pretends to punish
> others because his argument is strong; but he really punishes them
> because his argument is weak so we answer with fear and aggression. We
> pretend that other human beings are primitive and unworthy of our love
> to excuse the fact that we are not giving it.

What is this silly stuff, the whole is on the word "IF", you seem to
have a low view of yourself to even think that way.
A strong or weak is only from the other persons view point, means
nothing and is nothing if one does not fall for their stories.
You can answer as you want. I will answer as the Bible say, be as the
strong man one that protects and will fight for the right to do so.
As a follower of God we do not judge who to see worthy or not, we are
to care for everyone and one told me of Gods love and my life was
changed. You speak only for yourself, and that sounds weak.

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 27, 3:22 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
> On May 28, 5:02 am, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
>
> > Remember one can forgive Cain also, as no one was killed or murdered
> > before he id his brother.   So there was no law or rule not to kill at
> > that time, till after he murdered his brother.
>

> Not true if you believe the scriptures.

I know the scriptures and teach them and so it is true.

>
> Gen 4:7 “If you do well, is there not acceptance? And if you do not do
> well, -sin is crouching at the door. And its desire is for you, but
> you should master it.”
> Footnote: -Sin (transgression of the law) was already then known,

Nice verse and footnotes really mean little if anything, now when we
read what did happen we find this, before there was any sin for murder
or killing was made. Which came after and now is the way, before as I
said there was no order not to kill or murder.
Gen 4:8-11
8 Now Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it came to pass, when
they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and
killed him.
9 Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" He said,"I
do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?"
10 And He said, "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood
cries out to Me from the ground.
11 So now you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to
receive your brother's blood from your hand. NKJV

That curse came after not before, then God had no rule for that as God
even asked "What have you done?" as such was never done before this
killing and so there was no need for such a law or commandment. What
I said is true, and I have the training in the whole Bible and years
of teaching those subjects.

Dr. Rev. R. Knapp

> Even John in the New Testement says:
>
> 2Jn 1:5 And now I ask you, Kuria, not as though I wrote a fresh
> *command to you, but that which we have had from the beginning*: that
> we love one another.

And you see something here in that verse. The beginning did not have
anything here about murder and such and the beginning of that
commandment was because Cain did kill Abel and then was the
beginning. Then who is the "we" here, our family our friends not them
that want you dead or to destroy your family. We can love any one and
everyone but does not mean others will love you back.

> See, we had commandments from the beginning.  Also, the Sabbath is the
> recognition of the seventh day of creation.

Your beginning is not what the Bible said, on this.

>
> Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day Elohim completed His work which He had
> done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had
> made.

Which has nothing at all to do, which Cain or Able, death or life.

People like to twist things so the verses look like they support their
false reasoning.

[1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist]

"Dr. R. Knapp" wrote in message news:

>Maybe you are weak and fearful, I sure am not and will
>defend my own and my nation as I have done in the military for six
>years.

You are of course, are not being serious?
"27 But I say unto you that hear, Love your enemies, do good to them that
hate you".
Luke 6:27 (ASV)

Or have you given up being a follower of Christ?

"38 Ye have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a
tooth: 39 but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever
smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
Matt 5:38-39 (ASV)

Jeff...

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 27, 5:21 pm, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
> On May 27, 3:02 pm, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 23, 3:57 pm, Nancy Deacon <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > > > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > > > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > > > YES.
>
> > > > That sums up the rest of the book.  Have a good day.
>
> > > > Mat 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > > > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> > > ~~~
> > > Nancy
>
> > > Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> > > yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
> > >  They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> > > be my brothers.
>
> > Well if that is true, why did God tell us to witness to them and
> > convert them to Jesus?  They can be your brother or sister, if you
> > tell them about Jesus and the way of salvation.   In a way all could
> > be saved and all could be our brother, but if we do not tell them and
> > will NEVER tell them, then are we really a brother in Christ Jesus,
> > that tells us to tell all the world, not only the good folks.
>

> ~~~
> Nancy
> From the the beginning God put a division in humanity, before Cain and
> Able were born.
>
> 15 And I will put enmity (hatred)
>
> Between you (bad seed) and the woman (good seed),
>
> And between your seed (bad seed:Jer.24:8-10) and her Seed (good seed:
> Jer.24:2-7);
>
> He shall bruise your head,
>
> And you shall bruise His heel."
> Gen 3:15 (NKJV)
> ~~~

>
> > > 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we
> > > should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and
> > > murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works
> > > were evil and his brother's righteous
> > > 1 John 3:11-12 (NKJV)
>

> > Remember one can forgive Cain also, as no one was killed or murdered
> > before he id his brother.   So there was no law or rule not to kill at

> > that time, till after he murdered his brother.- Hide quoted text -
>
> ~~~
> Nancy
> What are you a Dr. of? That you are so proud of it you put it before
> your name on a news-group?

My doctorate is in Divinity and B. Theology. What garbage is this "So
proud of" are you nuts? One spend over five years in College and
graduated with honors and you think that is something not to be proud
of???? Check out the web site and you can see my name, ministry, and
fifty years of full time missionary work in Asia, and been in the
newsgroups since there was a newsgroup.

www.pioneers-for-jesus.org
Dr. Rev. R. Knapp

[Nancy]

On May 29, 11:54 am, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
> On May 29, 11:25 pm, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:

<snip>

> I'm fine with you keeping your beliefs Nancy but simply for the sake
> of discussion,  Let's speak of the greatest command you of course
> personally follow.
>
> Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the great command in the Torah?”
> Mat 22:37 And [YESHUA] יהושע said to him, “ ‘You shall love [YAHWEH]
> יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and
> with all your mind.’
> Mat 22:38 “This is the first and great command.
> Mat 22:39 “And the second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbour
> as yourself.’
> Mat 22:40 “On these two commands hang all the Torah and the
> Prophets.”

~~~
Nancy
What makes a neighbour? I look at the Jewish communities for my
answer. They are a body of people living in the same place under the
same laws. They can go from one physical area to another and it will
be the same. This is why they have stood the test of time.

Satan nor those he controls will ever be my neighbour....nor should
they be any Christians. This would be foolish ....and what would God
want with fools? Fools that will not take Him at His word and test the
spirits.
~~~

> The great command is that we love, not that we exercise our judgment
> over other people Nancy.
>
> Mat 7:1  “Do not judge, lest you be judged.
> Jas 4:12 There is one Lawgiver and Judge, who is able to save and to
> destroy. Who are you to judge another?

~~~
Nancy
I be judged, as you will be judged...by GOD'S WORD. God has given us
the guidelines He will use
in His judgment. His WORD is my guideline. Why would I not use these
guidelines to test the spirits?

105 Your word is a lamp to my feet
And a light to my path.
Psalms 119:105 (NKJV)
~~~
Nancy
His word is how I keep from sinning.

11 Your word I have hidden in my heart,
That I might not sin against You!
Psalms 119:11 (NKJV)
~~~

> In the end we must recognize that we all come from one source.  Love.
> It is far more important to be loving.  Especially when you consider:

~~~
Nancy
Absolutely not! I would NOT be worth Jesus dying for should I love a
person into disobedience of God's Laws. What good would I be to God!
~~~

> Isa 45:5 ‘I am [YAHWEH] יהוה, and there is none else – there is no
> Elohim besides Me. I gird you, though you have not known Me,
> Isa 45:6 so that they know from the rising of the sun to its setting
> that there is none but Me. I am [YAHWEH] יהוה, and there is none
> else,
> Isa 45:7 forming light and creating darkness, making peace and
> creating evil. I, [YAHWEH] יהוה, do all these.’
>
> Everything is of one source...  How would you explain it?  I bet you
> would say, "If it be his will."

~~~
Nancy
I don't know what you are talking about. Isa 45 is about God calling
Cyrus (a demon) to duty in the Middle East.
~~~

~~~
Nancy
I don't think it me.....it's God's Word.

I printed this out....4 pages. I thought to myself....how can anyone
have so much to say......
then I saw how you signed our name below....now I know...
~~~

>   *´¨)
>  ¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨)  ¸.•*¨)
> (¸.•´   (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
>
> The heart of another is a dark forest, always, no matter how close it
> has been to one's own.
> Willa Cather
>
> An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation,
> nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.

> Mohandas Gandhi- Hide quoted text -

[Dr. R. Knapp]

On May 27, 7:31 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 27, 4:18 pm, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 27, 6:40 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 24, 7:46 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 7:46 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 23, 4:35 pm, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 23, 6:36 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > On May 23, 12:57 pm, Nancy Deacon <nw...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 23, 3:21 pm, Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > One of the first questions asked of the deity in the bible is by the
> > > > > > > > > murderer Cane who asked, "Am I my brother’s guard?”
>
> > > > > > > > > I thought I'd let you in on a the answer since he never did...
>
> > > > > > > > > YES.
>
> > > > > > > > > That sums up the rest of the book.  Have a good day.
>
> > > > > > > > > Mat 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > > > > > > > > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> > > > > > > > ~~~
> > > > > > > > Nancy
>
> > > > > > > > Those that are of the devil are NOT my brothers....and if they are
> > > > > > > > yours, then you do not belong to God.
>
> > > > > > > >  They very well may do what ever they will to me, but NEVER will they
> > > > > > > > be my brothers.
>

> > > > > > > This is the same kind of "charity" that is woven into Judaism.  Non-
> > > > > > > Jews may be robbed, beaten or even killed by a Jew with impunity.  The
> > > > > > > Jewish rules of morality apply only to Jew on Jew conduct.  This is
> > > > > > > the Talmud Law.
>
> > > > > > ~~~
> > > > > > Nancy
>
> > > > > > My allegiance is to God and God alone. You can not entertain satan
> > > > > > without getting burnt.
>
> > > > > Threatening, but irrelevant.  Gentiles are not Satan.
>
> > > > ~~~
> > > > Nancy
> > > > Threating? To Whom?
>

> > > Gentiles are not Satan.  Jesus worked with unbelievers for three years
> > > in Galilee.  As you might recall, it was the Jews who arranged for him
> > > to be killed, not the Gentiles.
>
> > > TCross-
>

> > ~~~
> > Nancy
>
> > That is a lie straight from satan. The Jews nor the Gentiles killed
> > Christ. The  humans were no more than a tool.
>

> I was not aware that Satan wrote the Gospels.  I guess learning stuff
> like that makes my time on Usenet all worthwhile.

I was not aware Satan wrote the Gospel either only I seen on Gospel of
Guns and lots of other books that use the Word Gospel in their books
today.


>
> TCross

[nw...@live.com]

~~~
Nancy

I just found this. This is why you are so proud? That you graduated with honors from a college set up by men that teaches about God? I can find no where in the Bible where they were called Dr.
Maybe you would have done better to let God be your Teacher. but then you wouldn't be a Dr. would you?

He is my Teacher for over 8 years now...and He's not done yet.
~~~

[Snow]

On May 30, 6:56 am, Nancy <nw...@live.com> wrote:

> Nancy
> I don't know what you are talking about. Isa 45 is about God calling
> Cyrus (a demon) to duty in the Middle East.

Then it really is pointless talking to each other. Take care and be
blessed. Bye