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Esther Summerson

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The Telegraph
Friday,30 June 2000
http://www.telegraph.co.uk

Nurse drove with man on bonnet after dispute
By David Sapsted

PROF Stephen Hawking's nurse drove away from a garage with the owner
clinging to the bonnet after a row over a bill, a court was told
yesterday.

Patricia Ramshaw, one of the physicist's team of 11 nurses, denied
dangerous driving but was convicted at Cambridge Crown Court. The jury
heard that the divorcee, with her five-year-old daughter in the front
passenger seat, drove her car straight at Jonathan Tilley after he
refused to let her leave his Cambridge garage without paying a £55
repair bill.

Mr Tilley clung to the aerial as Ramshaw, 31, of nearby Stapleford,
drove 90 yards down a busy street. When he smashed the windscreen with
his heels, she stopped and ran into a shop to dial 999, claiming she had
been attacked. Judge Jonathan Haworth sentenced her to 60 hours'
community service and put her on probation. He also banned her from
driving for 18 months and ordered her to re-sit her driving test. She
has to pay Mr Tilley £350 compensation.
*****
This woman could have killed the owner of the garage and she was let off
with only community service; a man wouldn't have been let off so
lightly. What an example this sets for the woman's five-year-old
daughter who was in the car when she drove it at the man: now the child
has learnt that if a woman attacks a man and she will not go to prison
and that if a woman makes false accusations she will not go to prison.

This woman should be sent to prison for a very long time and custody of
the daughter should go to the father. Of course, that won't happen
because this is a tyranny where what sex one is matters more than what
one does.


Esther Summerson

'We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one
object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become
simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their
attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first.'
-- Charles Mackay
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

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KEN

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In article <2000070314320...@gacracker.org>,

When will it end? An 11 year old girl is too young to be charged for
serious sexual assult but a 6 year old boy who accidently exposed
himself got punished. (see that thread) A 20 year old female
babysitter get rewarded when the child she raped is ordered to pay her
child support... Any "mother" can now ditch her child but men are
always held repsonsible even if said child is proven to be not their
after he was told it was..(is not this fraud?) And the list can go on
and on.

Much as the Japanse leader said after Dec. 7, 1941...I fear we have
awoken a sleeping giant...the feminst have about added the last straw
and more and more men (and women) can now see the whole feminst
movement is filled with nothing but bitter little girls that only wnat
the world handed to them on a silver platter at the expense of
others. WE ARE AWAKING!


>
> 'We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one
> object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become
> simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till
their
> attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the
first.'
> -- Charles Mackay
> Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds
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John O

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Thought I'd cross-post to see what the legal gentlemen thought of this. Is
it about par for the course (in terms of sentence) or has she got off
lightly?

Esther Summerson <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
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Jet

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Esther Summerson <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
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>
> The Telegraph
> Friday,30 June 2000
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
>
> Nurse drove with man on bonnet after dispute
> By David Sapsted
>
> PROF Stephen Hawking's nurse drove away from a garage with the owner
> clinging to the bonnet after a row over a bill, a court was told
> yesterday.
>
> Patricia Ramshaw, one of the physicist's team of 11 nurses, denied
> dangerous driving but was convicted at Cambridge Crown Court. The jury
> heard that the divorcee, with her five-year-old daughter in the front
> passenger seat, drove her car straight at Jonathan Tilley after he
> refused to let her leave his Cambridge garage without paying a £55
> repair bill.

Yeah, the bitch should still be in jail.

J


John O

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Jet <that...@yahoo.clothes.com> wrote in message
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I really don't care whether she should be in jail or not: I am merely
interested in whether the way she was charged and dealt with under English
Law was equivalent to the way a man would have been charged and dealt with.

If it was, then although this may be relevant to a wider debate on crime, it
says little about gender discrimination. If it wasn't, then it is one very
clear reason why statistics show such an immense skew toward 'male
criminality'.

I mean, do tell what you think was going on here.

Once the music hall aspect is got over (after all, there is some slight
comedy in the thought of a garage owner stuck on the bonnet of some woman's
car), this is certainly capable of being construed as attempted murder.

In fact, istr, just a few days ago, an individual was sentenced to Life for
driving his car at a policeman and actually killing him.

If I come at you with a heavy blunt object, and appear to be reckless as to
the consequences of hitting you with it, what would you say I was guilty of?

What difference does it make if I am sitting inside that object at the time?

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Jon Rouse

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John O wrote in message ...

>
>If I come at you with a heavy blunt object, and appear to be reckless as to
>the consequences of hitting you with it, what would you say I was guilty
of?
>
>What difference does it make if I am sitting inside that object at the
time?


Picking it up becomes slightly more difficult?

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Malcolm James

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Probably manslaughter, not murder, but that still carries a fair jail
sentence.

Malcolm James

John O wrote in message ...
>

>If I come at you with a heavy blunt object, and appear to be reckless as to
>the consequences of hitting you with it, what would you say I was guilty
of?
>
>What difference does it make if I am sitting inside that object at the
time?
>
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>> J
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Richard Miller

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In article <s7785.61$Ft....@monolith.news.easynet.net>, John O
<aud...@hotmail.com> writes

>Thought I'd cross-post to see what the legal gentlemen thought of this. Is
>it about par for the course (in terms of sentence) or has she got off
>lightly?
>
On a charge of dangerous driving, it doesn't appear to be a particularly
unusual sentence.
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Richard Miller

John O

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Richard Miller <Ric...@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hehehe....Richard, you know what I mean. Seeing as just a few days ago
someone up in Manchester was sentenced to life for running a policeperson
down with a car, the action is clearly capable of being interpreted in the
heaviest way possible.

Someone had to make a decision about what to charge with here. Is the
charge light or heavy given the facts described?


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> Richard Miller

Sulla.

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Our legal system is based on PITY of CRIMINALS. 1 criminal out of 50
ever goes to prison! Some female criminals benefit from it, but men
benefit from it much more, since they commit 80% of crime.
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It's as impossible for a woman to abuse a man, as it would be for a one
old man to abuse a whole ship crew of an 18-th century British
battleship.
Common sense validates my sig.

Philip Lewis

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| Our legal system is based on PITY of CRIMINALS. 1 criminal out of 50
| ever goes to prison! Some female criminals benefit from it, but men
| benefit from it much more, since they commit 80% of crime.
| --
| It's as impossible for a woman to abuse a man, as it would be for a one
| old man to abuse a whole ship crew of an 18-th century British
| battleship.
| Common sense validates my sig.
|

Hmmm I see you have been skipping your Largactyl again!!

--
Phil
(The Guy Who's Not Too Fond Of Political Correctness)


John O

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Sulla. <huly...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Our legal system is based on PITY of CRIMINALS. 1 criminal out of 50
> ever goes to prison! Some female criminals benefit from it, but men
> benefit from it much more, since they commit 80% of crime.

What a stupidly innumerate remark. Is this the basis for your thought
processes on other issues that involve numbers? I can see how you might
have problems.

> --
> It's as impossible for a woman to abuse a man, as it would be for a one
> old man to abuse a whole ship crew of an 18-th century British
> battleship.
> Common sense validates my sig.
>
>

charles

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today the papers report that a women who attacked germaine greer received
help and a non custodial sentence.a local magistrate tells me that they bend
over backwards not to send women to prison.one reason-apparently-is that
there are fewer women's prisons and they are a long way from many
courts.additionally,if a women has family responsabilities,these often take
priority over the administration of justice.perhaps come back to good old uk
as a womean in the next life and(perhaps)get away with serious crimes.
potical correctness or political stupidity??
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