[Lecture Tour] Supreme Master Ching Hai's Lecture Schedule
au817
Following the Supreme Master Ching Hai's Lecture Tour Schedule.
Please note that we will provide more information when it is available.
All best wishes,
au817
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Lecture Tour Schedule
======================
Speaker: The Supreme Master Ching Hai
Enlightened Master from the Himalayas, recipient of the World Spiritual
Leadership Award, the Award of Merit Towards World Peace, the
International Humanitarian Award and multiple Honorary Citizenship Awards
Topic: Immediate Enligtenment, Eternal Liberation
=================================================
Madrid, Spain Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999
Time: 7:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Palacio de Congresos de Madrid
Address: Paseo de la Castellana 99, 28046
Madrid, Spain
Phone number to call for enquiries:
34-91-5470366
Lisbon, Portugal Date: Friday , May 07, 1999
Time: 6:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Meridien Park Atlantic Hotel
Address: Rua Castilho, 149 - 1099-034 Lisbon,
Portugal
Phone number to call for enquiries:
351-1-4443803
Amsterdam, Holland Date: Sunday , May 09, 1999
Time: 4:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Amsterdam RAI, international
exhibition & congres center, Room: FORUM
Address: Europaplein, NL-1078 GZ Amsterdam,
Netherlands
Phone number to call for enquiries:
31-294-419783
Warsaw, Poland Date: Tuesday , May 11, 1999
Time: 7:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: Klub "Planeta", ul. Fort Wola 22,
Warsaw, Poland
Phone number to call for enquiries:
48-22-6593897, 48-501-190797
Moscow, Russia Date: Thursday , May 13, 1999
Time: 7:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Cultural Center "Meridian"
Address: Profsoyuznaya Street, 61, Moscow,
Russia
Phone number to call for enquiries:
7-095-2424953
Yerevan, Armenia Date: Saturday , May 15 or 16, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Sofia, Bulgaria Date: Tuesday , May 18, 1999
Time: 06:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Universiada
Address: 2, Shipchenskeproohod, Sofia,
Bulgaria
Phone number to call for enquiries:
359-2-575358
Athens, Greece Date: Thursday , May 20, 1999
Time: 06:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Park hotel
Address: 10, Alexandras Ave., Athens, Greece
Phone number to call for enquiries:
30-1-8675483
Rome, Italy Date: Saturday , May 22, 1999
Time: 3:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Teatro Brancaccio
Address: Via Mreulana, 244, 00184 Rome, Italy
Phone number to call for enquiries:
39-06-2308016
Budapest, Hungary Date: Monday , May 24, 1999
Time: 3:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Novotel Budapest Congress
Address: Alkotas utca 63-67, H-1123 Budapest,
Hungary
Phone number to call for enquiries:
36-1-3633896
Ljubljana, Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999
Slovenia Time: 7:00 P.M.
Lecture Hall: Poslovna stavba "SMELT" (Pri
WTC-ju)
Address: Dunajska 160, 1000 Ljubljana,
Slovenia
Phone number to call for enquiries:
386-41-62930
Prague, Czech Date: Friday , May 28, 1999
Republic Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Helsinki, Finland Date: Sunday , May 30, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Stockholm, Sweden Date: Monday , May 31, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Oslo, Norway Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Edinburg, Scotland Date: Saturday , June 05, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Dublin, Ireland Date: Monday , June 07, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
London, U.K. Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999
Time: N/A
Lecture Hall: N/A
Address: N/A
Phone number to call for enquiries: N/A
Free Admission, Free Meditation Course
Translation into various languages
Art and Craft Exhibition of the Supreme Master Ching Hai.
Heaven Is Here And Now!
=======================
The Supreme Master Ching Hai
Are you ready to meet an enlightened Master and to embark on a journey into
the beautiful and mysterious Kingdom of God within you? The Supreme Master
Ching Hai from the Himalayas is there to guide you home. Through teaching
you the Supreme Method of Meditation, the Quan Yin Method or Contemplation
of the Inner Light and Sound she will give you the key to your ultimate
Self-Realization. Let her wisdom and unconditional love show you the way to
your own enlightenment, which will change you forever for the best! You
will know God.
"In the Bible it is said, 'In the beginning there was the Word, and the
Word was God and the Word was with God.' So we meditate on that Word, which
is the vibration within, the Word which indicates the frequency, the God
Power. Because we are the temple of God, and God speaks to us in such a
way. He appears to us in the form of light and speaks to us in the form of
sounds. Seeing the light, we see many other things. Hearing the Word we
hear many other things. We hear the teachings directly from God."
Master Ching Hai's lecture and introduction to the Quan Yin Method are
offered free of charge.
The Quan Yin Method
===================
The Ancient Supreme Method of Meditation
Find the Inner Light and Sound
The Quan Yin Method is a unique and most ancient meditation technique
helping you to rediscover the Almighty Power within you, which manifests in
the Inner Light and Sound.
"This inner melody can heal all wounds, fulfill all desires and quench all
worldy thirst. It is all-powerful and all-love. It is because we are made
of this Sound that the contact with it brings peace and contentment to our
heart. After listening to the sound, our whole being changes, our entire
outlook on life is greatly altered for the best."
The Quan Yin Method is compatible with all religions and creeds. It is
mentioned in many holy scriptures throughout the world. In the Bible it is
referred to as the "word" (from Greek "logos" meaning "sound"), in Taoism
it is "the music from heaven, in Hinduism "the Shabd, in Sikhism "the
Naam", while in the Koran, the holy scripture of the Muslims, it is the
"Kalam-i-Quadim", "the voice that comes from heaven." It is also the "sound
stream" in Buddhism, from which the name "Quan Yin" is derived. ("Quan Yin"
is the Chinese expression for "contemplation of the sound".)
It is up to you to use this chance to discover this rare and mystic ancient
method, the fastest, safest and easiest way back to the Kingdom of God, the
true key to "know thyself". The Supreme Master Ching Hai International
Association is dedicated to making the Quan Yin Method accessible to as
many people as possible all over the world free of charge, for the benefit
of mankind and all the beings on this planet and in the Universe.
Master Ching Hai has not come to make you her disciple, but to help you
become the Master of Yourself!
oOo
Master Ching Hai is a symbol of spiritual wisdom and guidance for hundreds
of thousands of people around the world. The Supreme Master Ching Hai
International Association, the foundation that has grown out of her loving
example, has by now established meditation centers in more than 50
countries worldwide. Master Ching Hai has become internationally recognized
among Presidents and statesmen for humanitarian and disaster relief
activities on four continents. In 1993 she received the International Peace
Commendation, and multiple Honorary Citizenship Awards by different states
in the USA, and she has been invited as guest speaker on several occasions
before the United Nations in New York and Geneva.
May God's love and light guide you on your way to supreme self-realization!
For further information please call: 091-5470366 and 096-3744361
au817
>Dear Sisters and Brothers:
>
>Following is the Supreme Master Ching Hai's Lecture Tour Schedule.
^--- please read
Christopher Williams
au817 wrote in message <3756280f.33414747@news-server>...
Michael Turner
Balkans, it is a great thing that a Light and Sound Master is visiting those
war-torn areas. I pray that the Divine Love of Naam flowing through my
beloved sister helps facilitate some much needed healing.
Please let us know on alt.meditation.shabda how the tour is progressing, as
well as when She will be in the Southwest USA again.
Peace and Spiritual Unity,
Gregory Michael Turner
Spiritual Freedom Satsang
http://home.att.net/~h.kight/index.htm
au817 wrote in message <3756280f.33414747@news-server>...
au817
<m.tu...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>This is wonderful indeed. In a time of crisis such as we're having in the
>Balkans, it is a great thing that a Light and Sound Master is visiting those
>war-torn areas. I pray that the Divine Love of Naam flowing through my
>beloved sister helps facilitate some much needed healing.
>
>Please let us know on alt.meditation.shabda how the tour is progressing, as
>well as when She will be in the Southwest USA again.
Dear Michael:
Thanks again for your support and understanding. We will post the updated
schedule and share with you and others if the Lecture Tour will be extended
to different countries and USA.
All best wishes,
au817
au817
This is the updated schedule of the Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999 European
Lecture Tour Schedule.
All best wishes,
au817
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com
Great Universal Event
=====================
Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999 European Lecture Tour Schedule
Speaker: The Supreme Master Ching Hai
Enlightened Master from the Himalayas, recipient of the World Spiritual
Leadership Award, the Award of Merit Towards World Peace, the
International Humanitarian Award and multiple Honorary Citizenship Awards
Topic: Immediate Enligtenment, Eternal Liberation
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Free Admission, Free Meditation Course
Translation into various languages
Art and Craft Exhibition of the Supreme Master Ching Hai.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date City, Lecture Hall
Time Country Address Info Hotline
--------------- -------------------- -------------------------
---------------
Wednesday Madrid, Palacio de Congresos de 34-91-5470366
May 05,1999 SPAIN MPaseo de la Castellana
7:00 p.m. 99, 28046 Madrid, Spain
Friday Lisbon, Meridien Park Atlantic 351-1-4443803
May 07,1999 Portugal HoRua Castilho, 149 -
6:00 p.m. 1099-034 Lisbon, Portugal
Sunday Amsterdam, Amsterdam RAI, 31-294-419783
May 09,1999 Netherlands internatioEuropaplein,
4:00 p.m. NL-1078 GZ Amsterdam,
Netherlands
Tuesday Warsaw, Klub "Planeta"
48-22-6593897,
May 11,1999 Poland ul. Fort Wola 22, Warsaw, 48-501-190797
7:00 p.m. Poland
Thursday Moscow, Cultural Center 7-095-2424953
May 13,1999 RUSSIA "MeridianProfsoyuznaya
7:00 p.m. Street, 61, Moscow,
Russia
Saturday Yerevan, Yerevan State University
May 15,1999 Armenia 1 Mravian Str, Yerevan,
10:00 a.m. Armenia
Tuesday Sofia, Universiada 359-2-575358
May 18,1999 Bulgaria 2, Shipchenskeproohod,
06:00 p.m. Sofia, Bulgaria
Thursday Athens, Park hotel 30-1-8675483
May 20,1999 Greece 10, Alexandras Ave.,
06:00 p.m. Athens, Greece
Saturday Rome, Teatro Brancaccio 39-06-2308016
May 22,1999 Italy Via Mreulana, 244, 00184
3:00 p.m. Rome, Italy
Monday Budapest, Novotel Budapest 36-1-3633896
May 24,1999 Hungary CongressAlkotas utca
6:00 p.m. 63-67, H-1123 Budapest,
Hungary
Wednesday Ljubljana, Poslovna stavba "SMELT" 386-41-629305
May 26,1999 Slovenia (Dunajska 160, 1000
7:00 p.m. Ljubljana, Slovenia
Friday ??, Kulturni dum Eden
420-2-90058578
May 28,1999 Czech Republic U Slavie 100 00, Praha
7:00 p.m. 10, Czech Republic
Sunday Helsinki, Hall of culture 358-9-7708200
May 30,1999 Finland (kulttuurSturenkatu 4,
2:00 p.m. 00510 Helsinki, Finland
Monday Stockholm, Stockholm City 46-8-7403792
May 31,1999 Sweden ConferenceFolkets Hus:
7:00 p.m. Barnhusgatan 12-14,
Stockholm, Sweden
Wednesday Oslo, Oslo Konserthus 47-22-612939
Jun 02,1999 Norway Munkedamsveien 14, PB.
7:00 p.m. 1437, Vika, N-0115 Oslo,
Norway
Saturday Edinburgh, King's Theatre
44-131-6660319
Jun 05,1999 Scotland Tollcross, 2 Leven
7:00 p.m. Street, Edinburgh, U.K.
au817
This is the updated schedule of the Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999 European
Lecture Tour Schedule.
All best wishes,
au817
in...@quanyin.com
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com
Great Universal Event
=====================
Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999 European Lecture Tour Schedule
Speaker: The Supreme Master Ching Hai
Enlightened Master from the Himalayas, recipient of the World Spiritual
Leadership Award, the Award of Merit Towards World Peace, the
International Humanitarian Award and multiple Honorary Citizenship Awards
Topic: Immediate Enligtenment, Eternal Liberation
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free Admission, Free Meditation Course
Translation into various languages
Art and Craft Exhibition of the Supreme Master Ching Hai.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date City, Lecture Hall
Time Country Address Info Hotline
--------------- --------------- -------------------------
---------------
1 Wednesday , Palacio de Congresos de 34-91-5470366
May 05,1999 Spain MPaseo de la Castellana
7:00 p.m. 99, 28046 Madrid, Spain
2 Friday Lisbon, Meridien Park Atlantic 351-1-4443803
May 07,1999 Portugal HoRua Castilho, 149 -
6:00 p.m. 1099-034 Lisbon, Portugal
13 Sunday Amsterdam, Amsterdam RAI, 31-294-419783
May 09,1999 Netherlands internatioEuropaplein,
4:00 p.m. NL-1078 GZ Amsterdam,
Netherlands
3 Tuesday Warsaw, Klub "Planeta" 48-22-6593897,
May 11,1999 Poland ul. Fort Wola 22, Warsaw, 48-501-190797
7:00 p.m. Poland
4 Thursday Moscow, Cultural Center 7-095-2424953
May 13,1999 RUSSIA "MeridianProfsoyuznaya
7:00 p.m. Street, 61, Moscow,
Russia
5 Saturday Yerevan, Yerevan State University
May 15,1999 Armenia 1 Mravian Str, Yerevan,
10:00 a.m. Armenia
6 Tuesday Sofia, Universiada 359-2-575358
May 18,1999 Bulgaria 2, Shipchenskeproohod,
06:00 p.m. Sofia, Bulgaria
7 Thursday Athens, Park hotel 30-1-8675483
May 20,1999 Greece 10, Alexandras Ave.,
06:00 p.m. Athens, Greece
8 Saturday Rome, Teatro Brancaccio 39-06-2308016
May 22,1999 Italy Via Mreulana, 244, 00184
3:00 p.m. Rome, Italy
9 Monday Budapest, Novotel Budapest 36-1-3633896
May 24,1999 Hungary CongressAlkotas utca
6:00 p.m. 63-67, H-1123 Budapest,
Hungary
10 Wednesday Ljubljana, Poslovna stavba "SMELT" 386-41-629305
May 26,1999 Slovenia (Dunajska 160, 1000
7:00 p.m. Ljubljana, Slovenia
11 Friday , Kulturni dum Eden 420-2-90058578
May 28,1999 Czech Republic U Slavie 100 00, Praha
7:00 p.m. 10, Czech Republic
14 Sunday Helsinki, Hall of culture 358-9-7708200
May 30,1999 Finland (kulttuurSturenkatu 4,
2:00 p.m. 00510 Helsinki, Finland
12 Monday Stockholm, Stockholm City 46-8-7403792
May 31,1999 Sweden ConferenceFolkets Hus:
7:00 p.m. Barnhusgatan 12-14,
Stockholm, Sweden
15 Wednesday Oslo, Oslo Konserthus 47-22-612939
Jun 02,1999 Norway Munkedamsveien 14, PB.
7:00 p.m. 1437, Vika, N-0115 Oslo,
Norway
16 Saturday Edinburgh, King's Theatre 44-131-666031
Jun 05,1999 Scotland Tollcross, 2 Leven
7:00 p.m. Street, Edinburgh, U.K.
oOo
For further information please call the info hotlines.
au817
This is the updated schedule of the Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999 European
Lecture Tour Schedule.
For those who would like to get initiation into the Quan Yin Method, you might
request it after the lecture in each country. It is offered free of charge.
For your info, we also loaded the 1993 World Lecture Tour at
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com/eng/lecture/tour93/
For those who may not know Master Ching Hai, we also loaded the special edition
9 minute RealVideo entitled Walk The Way of Love at
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com/eng/love/
And Master Ching Hai RealAudio's Lectures at
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com/audio/lecture/
All best wishes,
au817
--===Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999 European Lecture Tour Schedule ===--
Great Universal Event
=====================
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com
Supreme Master Ching Hai’s 1999
European Lecture Tour Schedule
Speaker: The Supreme Master Ching Hai
Enlightened Master from the Himalayas, recipient of the World Spiritual
Leadership Award, the Award of Merit Towards World Peace, the
International Humanitarian Award and multiple Honorary Citizenship Awards
Topic: Immediate Enligtenment, Eternal Liberation
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Free Admission, Free Meditation Course
Translation into various languages
Art and Craft Exhibition of the Supreme Master Ching Hai.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date City, Lecture Hall
# Time Country Address Info Hotline
--- --------------- ------------ ------------------------- ---------------
1 Wednesday Spain Palacio de Congresos de 34-91-5470366
May 05,1999 MPaseo de la Castellana
7:00 p.m. 99, 28046 Madrid, Spain
2 Friday Lisbon Meridien Park Atlantic 351-1-4443803
May 07,1999 Portugal HoRua Castilho, 149 -
6:00 p.m. 1099-034 Lisbon, Portugal
3 Sunday Amsterdam Amsterdam RAI, 31-294-419783
May 09,1999 Netherlands internatioEuropaplein,
4:00 p.m. NL-1078 GZ Amsterdam,
Netherlands
4 Tuesday Warsaw Klub "Planeta" 48-22-6593897,
May 11,1999 Poland ul. Fort Wola 22, Warsaw, 48-501-190797
7:00 p.m. Poland
5 Thursday Moscow Cultural Center 7-095-2424953
May 13,1999 RUSSIA "MeridianProfsoyuznaya
7:00 p.m. Street, 61, Moscow,
Russia
6 Saturday Yerevan Yerevan State University
May 15,1999 Armenia 1 Mravian Str, Yerevan,
10:00 a.m. Armenia
7 Tuesday Sofia Universiada 359-2-575358
May 18,1999 Bulgaria 2, Shipchenskeproohod,
06:00 p.m. Sofia, Bulgaria
8 Thursday Athens Park hotel 30-1-8675483
May 20,1999 Greece 10, Alexandras Ave.,
06:00 p.m. Athens, Greece
9 Saturday Rome Teatro Brancaccio 39-06-2308016
May 22,1999 Italy Via Mreulana, 244, 00184
3:00 p.m. Rome, Italy
10 Monday Budapest Novotel Budapest 36-1-3633896
May 24,1999 Hungary CongressAlkotas utca
6:00 p.m. 63-67, H-1123 Budapest,
Hungary
11 Wednesday Ljubljana Poslovna stavba "SMELT" 386-41-629305
May 26,1999 Slovenia (Dunajska 160, 1000
7:00 p.m. Ljubljana, Slovenia
12 Friday Czech Kulturni dum Eden 420-2-90058578
May 28,1999 Republic U Slavie 100 00, Praha
7:00 p.m. 10, Czech Republic
13 Sunday Helsinki Hall of culture 358-9-7708200
May 30,1999 Finland (kulttuurSturenkatu 4,
2:00 p.m. 00510 Helsinki, Finland
14 Monday Stockholm Stockholm City 46-8-7403792
May 31,1999 Sweden ConferenceFolkets Hus:
7:00 p.m. Barnhusgatan 12-14,
Stockholm, Sweden
15 Wednesday Oslo Oslo Konserthus 47-22-612939
Jun 02,1999 Norway Munkedamsveien 14, PB.
7:00 p.m. 1437, Vika, N-0115 Oslo,
Norway
16 Saturday Edinburgh King's Theatre 44-131-666031
Jun 05,1999 Scotland Tollcross, 2 Leven
7:00 p.m. Street, Edinburgh, U.K.
17 Monday Dublin RoyalDublin Society 353-1-6249050
Jun 07,1999 IRELAND GrounBallsbridge,Dublin
4:00p.m. 4, Ireland
18 Wednesday London Instituteof Education 44-181-3742743
Jun 09,1999 ENGLAND 20Bedford Way, London
7:00p.m. WC1V OAL, U.K.
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The Quan Yin Links:
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com (Canada with Real Audio service)
http://www.approachable-heaven.org.tw/ (Formosa)
http://www.chinghai.com (Singapore)
http://www.light-sound.com (Korea)
http://www.jps.net/kannon/index/index.htm (Japan)
http://www.Spiritual-Discovery.org (U.S.A.)
http://mason.gmu.edu/~lduan/index1.html (U.S.A.)
http://quanyin.com/MS/ (U.S.A. in Spanish)
http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/audiovideo-archive-sumachinghai.html (U.S.A.)
http://members.aol.com/ChingHai/d_hpage.htm (Germany and in German)
http://www.telecom.at/chinghai (Austria, in German)
http://mach.ulb.ac.be/~ifaybish/ (Belgium)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/quanyin/ (UK)
http://www.bookzone.com/bookzone/10000190.peek.html
(Book order - I have come to take you home)
News Group: lov...@quanyin.com
Michael Turner
So in posting the below apparent correspondence with David Lane, are you
intimating that you're not a fan of Suma Ching Hai?
Peace and Unity,
Gregory Michael Turner
Spiritual Freedom Satsang
Richard Floyd Pickett wrote in message <37350276...@naxs.com>...
>Dear Dr. Lane,
>
>This is a follow up to some previous correspondence we have had.
>In following Ching Hai over the past 1 year I have come up with some
>observations I would like to share with you in the hope you can shed
>some
>further light on this woman. As I mentioned in the past my wife is
>involved
>with this group, and its effects on my and my daughters life have been
>quite
>destructive, I would like to see the group exposed for what it is.
>
>
>OBSERVATIONS:
>
>I have read in several places that there is a connection between Thakar
>Singh
>and Suma Ching Hai i.e. he was her mentor. In your book The Making of a
>Spiritual movement you link Twitchell to the Singhs, if I follow the
>links
>you make I come to some interesting conclusions about Hai.
>
>She appears to have been a keen observer of Twitchells, she learned to
>correct some of his mistakes by shrouding her lineage in mystery.
>Twitchell
>makes the mistake of claiming a lineage, which one assumes is designed
>to
>give him credibility. As his masters prove to be charlatans he simply
>rewrites history as you so aptly demonstrate.
>
>Hai solves this problem by claiming a unique lineage known only to her.
>At
>first glance this is problematic as it causes a loss of credibility, but
>to
>her followers it is confirmation she is the supreme master, so supreme
>that
>even her lineage is unique. This leads very easily to the groups next
>argument, all true masters represent a step forward in evolution and
>will
>therefore be the subject of ridicule in this life. As proof of this Hai
>points to both Buddha and Christ, while one rarely sees hai claim
>directly
>that she is both, her monthly magazine is full of these claims.
>
>This brings me to what I think may be the more interesting point. When
>I
>first started researching this group, I had a tendency to look at what
>was
>being offered by the group and try to offer logical arguments as to why
>this
>appeared to be a cult. As I suspect you know this rapidly leads to the
>trap
>that there is a group party line for every eventuality. This should not
>come as a surprise to any of us who have been involved in a major
>corporation
>which often times does the same thing.
>
>What caused me to change my thinking was your approach to Twitchell
>i.e. you
>clearly demonstrated he lied about just about everything. If we
>unfetter
>ourselves from, our traditional belief that there must be at least some
>element of truth in what people tell us we begin to see hai in a new
>light.
>
>In the new light we ask questions like, where does a group composed
>primarily
>of poor vietnamese immigrants, sell $10,000 dresses, and gold jewelry,
>where
>is Hishu Center the supposed seat of power, what jewelry and fashion
>shows
>have been reported outside of "master magazine".
>
>And most interesting of all if I am a cult leader why I am I writing
>money
>orders for my group members to sign ( it is fact that this happened)
>isn't it
>more usually the cults purpose to extract funds from the group?
>
>Further, how many members does the group really have? The group has
>publicly
>said they do not track them. From personal experience I assure you the
>group
>keeps very good records. Not only on members but on their activity
>there is
>even a system of sanctions for deviate group members a kind of probation
>which is studiously tracked by electronic card reader according to
>master
>magazine.
>
>Stepping back and asking ourselves what is this group really designed to
>do
>offers some unique opportunities, to redefine our thinking. If we try
>to
>force ching hai into our traditional view of a cult leader we may well
>come
>up with exactly the conclusion she wants us to.
>
>"She is a cult designed to exploit the masses, by using slave labor to
>work
>in her restaurants, make jewelry, manufacture clothes and generally
>collect
>money."
>
>But every time I try to penetrate the infra-structure that can generate
>this kind of revenue and support the number of members required to
>generate
>100,000's of dollars I can't find it.
>
>I have a business that generates 2 million in revenue and nothing like
>100,000's of profit, but I can't hide my business it takes plant
>equipment
>payroll and employees.
>
>So my suggestion is I think we are looking at this upside down the cult
>is
>not designed to generate revenue it is designed to launder revenue.
>Rather
>than look for the traditional murky ties to some past master maybe we
>should
>be looking for the political ties to some current organizations.
>
>In my mind this makes several things easier to reconcile, 1 the ethereal
>nature of the alleged commericial enterprise, 2 the studied nature of
>the
>groups manipulation, 3 the shear size of the group does not support the
>contributions allegedly collected. 4 what in the world the unlikely trio
>of
>tire, hai and wung are doing trying to donate money to Clinton's defence
>fund.
>
>Well I hope you find my ramblings interesting and I would love to hear
>your
>thoughts.
>
>Regards,
>R.A. Whritenour
>--
> "There are two ways of constructing a software design: one way is
>to make it so
> simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way
>is to make it
> so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies."
> C. A. R. Hoare
Brian Zischkau
>Dear Dr. Lane,
>
>This is a follow up to some previous correspondence we have had.
>In following Ching Hai over the past 1 year I have come up with some
>observations I would like to share with you in the hope you can shed
>some further light on this woman. As I mentioned in the past my wife is
>involved with this group, and its effects on my and my daughters life have been
>quite destructive, I would like to see the group exposed for what it is.
[huge snippage]
>Well I hope you find my ramblings interesting and I would love to hear
>your thoughts.
>
>Regards,
>R.A. Whritenour
The disciple is Soul and the Master is Shabda.
It appears the wife of R.A. Whritenour has learned this truth. Glory
of Glories! Wonder of Wonders! We all learn this in our own correct
time.
Baraka Bashad,
Brian Zischkau
au817
>Richard Floyd Pickett <rfpi...@naxs.com> wrote:
>
>>Dear Dr. Lane,
>>
>>This is a follow up to some previous correspondence we have had.
>>In following Ching Hai over the past 1 year I have come up with some
>>observations I would like to share with you in the hope you can shed
>>some further light on this woman. As I mentioned in the past my wife is
>>involved with this group, and its effects on my and my daughters life have been
>>quite destructive, I would like to see the group exposed for what it is.
Dear R.A.:
People sometimes easily blame on someone else but fail to closely look at
themselves. We are not sure this is your case.:)))
As parents, we always want our children to be a better person later. Besides the
meditation, the Quan Yin practitioners also try to keep the Five Precepts and
teach their children to keep the precepts and behave themselves. If this is the
"destructive" way, then we wish you luck, to find a better way.:))) Our children
are initiated into the Quan Yin Method and we don't share your view. But of
course, you can say whatever you'd like.
In the last new year, many children came to the Florida center to celebrate New
year and met Master Ching Hai there. One of the children wrote his feelings
after coming back from that event. Just something to share with you.
All best wishes,
au817
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Except from the Supreme Master Ching Hai News#101
http://www.chinghai.org.tw/eng/news/101/index.htm (text)
http://www.spiritual-discovery.com/pdf/ (PDF)
Florida's Utopia
================
By brother initiate Vincent Tran, Florida U.S.A.
It seems to me that every person has a dream as a child. My
dream seems to be like a fairy tale, but it has always been this
way. I wished for a place where people could trust each other,
where people were able to smile and say hello to anyone and
get a smile back, where people didn't lock their doors and
always stayed happy. Well for me, I actually saw this dream
become a reality recently at the Florida "retreat". To know why
this means so much to me, there is my past to understand as
well. I have been practicing for six years now and was initiated
when I was 11 years old. At that time, I was really sincere and
took everything extremely seriously.
About three years ago, I was in a car accident during the
winter and the car flipped over twice. Thanks to Master my
entire family was saved without sustaining any serious injuries
except for me, because I wasn't wearing a seat belt at the time.
From that day on, I have had serious problems with my back
and have not been able to meditate very well, and from there I
seemed to have moved farther away from meditating. My belief
in God was brought down by wondering how Hes could allow
this to happen to me. I began not to worry about my spiritual
development anymore, although my parents kept telling me
how important it was. It just seemed that the more people
mentioned spirituality, the more I moved further away from it,
questioning what physical proof there was.
A few months ago, I had a talk with one of my friends who is
extremely religious and I questioned her about the same thing .
What she told me made me realize a lot more than I expected to
learn from a 17 year old. She told me that the Master or
scriptures can only cultivate your beliefs to a certain point, but at
that point one must take the leap of faith into the unknown if one
wants to believe what is there. She said that you must not only
trust the Master but you must be able to trust yourself to get
through your doubts. Well, when I came to the Florida "retreat" I
walked around and things felt very good, with everyone working
as a group helping each other as a true "family". The love I
sensed from everyone had a great power over all the other
feelings that I had at the time. The disciples were able to accept
one another and gave a helping hand wherever needed.
During the first night at the campfire, I met someone who
had driven across the country to get initiated but because of
some complications, missed the initiation. As I was talking to
him, it occurred to me that at one time I was as sincere as he
was and I began to question myself about why I hadn't kept on
meditating after the accident. Was it really because of my back
or was it because I had begun to get lazy and used it as an
excuse. I felt as if Master had given me a test of faith, as to the
leap of faith and I had failed it. Those at my campfire and I kept
telling him that if Master comes by he should ask about his
situation; and when Master did come by, he immediately asked
if he could get a late initiation. With Master's caring heart, She
said, "Of course you can; it's New Years, anything can happen."
With these few words I looked at his face as it suddenly burst
with happiness.
From this experience alone I felt it was worth every moment I
had spent there, but there was more. As I sat there with people I
had never even met before, it felt like I had known them for the
longest time and I had spent my life with them. It felt like we
were really a family of Master's children. As the night went on,
more questions arose in my mind and I began to think about
what I was doing to myself, denying how important my
spirituality was. Things in that Utopia just felt so right, and every
single detail felt good in my eyes.
I had recently moved from a place where I lived almost all
my life, and when I left there, it felt as if the whole world around
me had crumbled and that I had to start over again. I never
thought anything could surpass that feeling of sadness, yet
when the day came that I had to leave this Utopia, I was sadder
than anything in the world, leaving a place and people I had
only known for a few short days. I didn't only feel love for one
person at that retreat, but I felt love for all of Master's children.
I had learned that coming to my Utopia wasn't just having fun
and meeting friends, but it was Master calling me back, giving
me a second chance to come back. I have never had such
feelings inside of me, and I just wished that not only the people
there felt the same as I did, but everyone around the world
understood how I felt about Master's undying love for each and
every one of Her children.
See-Toh
<37350276...@naxs.com>...
Dear Richard,
I do not know what previous correspondence you have had with Dr Lane, but
since you posted it in public, I hope you will forgive my intrusion. You
mentioned that your wife is "involved with this group", and attributed
negative effects to this.
Please let me relate my personal experience with the Quanyin method of
meditation. I have practised this method for more than 7 years, and has
found no negative effects on my family life. My wife is also a meditator,
and prior to learning the Quanyin method, we have learnt some Buddhist
methods of meditation, such as Vipassana or Insight Meditation. We found
that the Quanyin method is quite different from other methods, and instead
of weakening our family, it has made our family a more loving one. We have
a daughter and two sons.
My experience is by no means unique, and I know of many families in
Singapore who share this. BTW, not all practitioners of the Quanyin Method
are "poor Vietnamese" (I hope you did not intend a racist slur). Many
Singapore meditators are Chinese.
Regards,
seetoh
vegie.com
Note: Hsihu means "West Lake" in Chinese.
> Dear Dr. Lane,
>
> This is a follow up to some previous correspondence we have had.
> In following Ching Hai over the past 1 year I have come up with some
> observations I would like to share with you in the hope you can shed
> some
> further light on this woman. As I mentioned in the past my wife is
> involved
> with this group, and its effects on my and my daughters life have been
> quite
> destructive, I would like to see the group exposed for what it is.
> Well I hope you find my ramblings interesting and I would love to hear
> your
> thoughts.
>
> Regards,
> R.A. Whritenour
>
>