What ever happened to Jerry Jarvis?
John Manning
in MMY's game early on. He was the top guy of SIMS (Students
International Meditation Society) for many years. At my teacher
training course, Jerry sought me out and asked me if I would work for
him and SIMS. I had made commitments to Charlie Lutes and SRM and was
acutely aware of the animosity between Charlie and Jerry - the
'scientific approach' vs. the spiritual approach. I told Jerry that I
was going to work for SRM (Spiritual Regeneration Movement). His fake
smile quickly faded and he told me that since I was a student, that I
had to work for 'him'. I told him that I had already spoken with
Charlie and that Charlie wanted me, even as a student, to work for
SRM. (I had facilitated and given introductory lectures for SRM for 3
years prior.) Jerry then got hostile and said, "We'll see about that."
A real example of 'spirituality'.
As it turned out, I became an initiator and actually DID work for SRM.
More stories to come.
JRM
willytex
Thread: Wrong John
Subject: Another mistaken identity.
Author: willytex
Date: 10/18/2001
> John Manning wrote
> Jerry Jarvis, house painter by profession...
John - You are mistaken. Jerry Jarvis, the former director of Students
International Meditation Society, was a landscape architect by profession.
Where do you get this stuff, just make it up?
Reference:
"Maharishi: The Biography"
by Paul Mason
Element Books, 1992
John Manning
> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Thread: Wrong John
> Subject: Another mistaken identity.
> Author: willytex
> Date: 10/18/2001
>
> > John Manning wrote
> > Jerry Jarvis, house painter by profession...
>
> John - You are mistaken. Jerry Jarvis, the former director of Students
> International Meditation Society, was a landscape architect by profession.
> Where do you get this stuff, just make it up?
Provide the actual quote and source from the book willy. My
information was from three different personal sources who knew him. I
don't trust your comments.
I stand by my words.
JRM
Petrus
"John Manning" <joh...@biohard.com.br> wrote in message
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> will...@yahoo.com (willytex) wrote in message
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> > Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > Thread: Wrong John
> > Subject: Another mistaken identity.
> > Author: willytex
> > Date: 10/18/2001
> >
> > > John Manning wrote
> > > Jerry Jarvis, house painter by profession...
> >
> > John - You are mistaken. Jerry Jarvis, the former director of Students
> > International Meditation Society, was a landscape architect by
profession.
> > Where do you get this stuff, just make it up?
>
> Provide the actual quote and source from the book willy. My
> information was from three different personal sources who knew him. I
> don't trust your comments.
>
> I stand by my words.
>
Having no insider information myself, I would put my money on Mr. Manning.
willytex
Thread: Wrong Again
Subject: Rumor-monger John.
Author: willytex
Date: 10/19/2001
> John Manning wrote
> My information was from three different
> personal sources who knew him.
> (...)
John - So, we are agreed that you never actually knew Jerry Jarvis. And, we
are agreed that you never actually talked to Jerry Jarvis concerning his
profession. And, we are agreed that you have never actually met Jerry
Jarvis, except one day when you were standing around with Charlie Lutes
beside a lake, modeling a briefcase. And, we are agreed that it has been
almost thity years since that day, and to date, you have never actually
spoken to Jerry Jarvis, yet you somehow feel qualified to gossip about
someone you do not even know, behind their backs on a newsgroup.
Jerry Jarvis personally told me that he was a landscape architect by
profession, and he showed me his work. When Jerry retired from the TMO he
returned to his profession, and his wife Debbie started a travel agency in
Pacific Pallisades. These facts can be confirmed by Jerry himself, or you
could ask Robert Keith Wallace, who also knows Jerry personlly. Keith and I
were initiated by Jerry Jarvis in 1965 at the first SIMS course in L.A.
The point is that you are talking about someone that you do not even know,
dude. It is very rude to do that on a public forum, especially when you
cast aspersions concerning their integrity, based on mere hearsay. Please
refrain from doing so in the future.
willytex
Thread: What happened?
Subject: Over fourteen years; no insider information.
Author: willytex
Date: 10/19/2001
> Petrus wrote
> Having no insider information myself...
Petrus - So, we are agreed that you have no insider information about
anything, just rumors and trancenet gleanings. Yet, you made the claim of
having lived in Fairfield for over fourteen years? What happened?
I would put my money on John Manning, who at least, once overhead a few
phrases at a California lakeside camp-meet with Charlie.
John A. Stanley
I've lived in Fairfield since Aug 1982, have seen several Charlie Lutes
lectures in Iowa City, and about all I can recall is his tiresome "light
in the loafers" spiel that he drags out every time and his advice to
only accept rides from the saucer shaped UFO's and not the cigar shaped
ones. Oh yeah, and around Petra he'd light up like a 1000 watt halogen
bulb, but that happens to most guys.
No UFO's have stopped by yet, but comet Hale-Bopp was awfully pretty in
our dark NW sky, and Kaplan's jet routinely flies over our house on the
approach to the runway two miles directly south of us. Tomorrow is the
harvest festival over at Billy and Dawn's Aurora Farm, and I gotta run
now and grab some lunch, maybe pick up a dozen free-range eggs from
happy weed'n'bug eating chickens.
--
John A. Stanley Remove delicious mucilaginous vegetable to email
Petrus
"willytex" <will...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Thread: What happened?
> Subject: Over fourteen years; no insider information.
> Author: willytex
> Date: 10/19/2001
>
> > Petrus wrote
> > Having no insider information myself...
>
keep things in context here Slick Willy
> Petrus - So, we are agreed that you have no insider information about
> anything, just rumors and trancenet gleanings. Yet, you made the claim of
> having lived in Fairfield for over fourteen years? What happened?
Willy do you now really believe yourself after you have said a lie over and
over? That is even more pathetic than making others believe them lies. All
my posts are in Google, Be so kind as to find the one in which I made the
claim of having lived in Fairfield for over fourteen years.
What's wrong?... Willy what's taking you so long... Did I catch you in
telling another lie? What an evil web we weave ...
John Manning
> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Thread: Wrong Again
> Subject: Rumor-monger John.
> Author: willytex
> Date: 10/19/2001
>
> > John Manning wrote
> > My information was from three different
> > personal sources who knew him.
> > (...)
>
> John - So, we are agreed that you never actually knew Jerry Jarvis.
I knew Jerry Jarvis quite well. Met him and discussed many things with
him.
And, we
> are agreed that you never actually talked to Jerry Jarvis concerning his
> profession.
I never talked with him about his profession. It was not appropriate.
I really don't care if he was a garbage man or a corporate CEO. He was
an asshole. I stand by my statement that he was a house painter by
profession.
And, we are agreed that you have never actually met Jerry
> Jarvis, except one day when you were standing around with Charlie Lutes
> beside a lake, modeling a briefcase.
I met with and spoke with Jerry Jarvis on numerous occasions - At his
center, at TTC in Estes Park, CO, at Humbolt and at Lake Tahoe.
And, we are agreed that it has been
> almost thity years since that day, and to date, you have never actually
> spoken to Jerry Jarvis, yet you somehow feel qualified to gossip about
> someone you do not even know, behind their backs on a newsgroup.
Gather your senses 'Willy'.
>
> Jerry Jarvis personally told me that he was a landscape architect by
> profession,
Gardener perhaps?
and he showed me his work. When Jerry retired from the TMO he
> returned to his profession, and his wife Debbie started a travel agency in
> Pacific Pallisades. These facts can be confirmed by Jerry himself, or you
> could ask Robert Keith Wallace, who also knows Jerry personlly. Keith and I
> were initiated by Jerry Jarvis in 1965 at the first SIMS course in L.A.
How lovely. Where is the quote and source from the book you used to
indicate this architectural landscaper info that I asked for?
>
> The point is that you are talking about someone that you do not even know,
> dude.
I knew him quite well.
It is very rude to do that on a public forum, especially when you
> cast aspersions concerning their integrity, based on mere hearsay. Please
> refrain from doing so in the future.
Get help "willy".
JRM