NATO to destroy world
BillyG.
little, sometimes he gets a little mixed up. I see you couldn't resist
quoting the following from MMY, is this really what he has said, remarkable!
Where did you find it??
Billyg.
"Jeff Ridley" <jri...@direct.ca> wrote in message
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> Americans, Britishers, Germans, and all the people of NATO countries,
openly
> aligning themselves to destroy the world are guilty of an open act of
> violence.
>
> They have their embassies in every country, and it is a well known fact
that
> embassies and diplomatic missions in certain countries have been found
> spying on the activities of the people and the government, and then
bombing
> these countries at their discretion.
>
> Time has come for civilized countries to remove the embassies of these
> destructive nations from their countries under the laws of quarantine that
> protect the population from the contamination of harmful bacteria,
viruses,
> or insects that may be imported into the country with foods, flies, cats,
or
> dogs.
>
> When these infectious intruders are carefully kept at bay, why should
those
> who destroy human life be allowed in the country?
>
> NATO's activities and NATO's existence should not be allowed to grow
> unchallenged. No government should have the ethical right to destroy.
>
> The activities of NATO must be immediately banned, and NATO countries
should
> be turned out of civilized countries.
> -MMY
>
> Major General Kulwant
> Singh
> Director
> General
> Maharishi's
> Invincible
> Defence
> Programme Major
> General
> D.D. Ghoshal
> Director-
> Central Zone Maharishi's Invincible Defence Programme Major
> General
> K.K. Ganguly
> Director-
> East Zone Maharishi's Invincible Defence Programme Major
> General
> G.K. Sahney
> Director-
> South Zone Maharishi's Invincible Defence Programme Major
> General
> G.H. Israni
> Director-
> West Zone Maharishi's Invincible Defence Programme Colonel
> S.P. Bakshi
> Director-
> North Zone Maharishi's
> Invincible
> Defence
> Programm
>
>
>
Jeff Ridley
BillyG. <wmur...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff-Hey, I see you're back, maybe you could help out JRM with his ranting
a
> little, sometimes he gets a little mixed up. I see you couldn't resist
> quoting the following from MMY, is this really what he has said,
remarkable!
> Where did you find it??
> Billyg.
Hi Billy,
Here's the URL for the MMY quote:
http://maharishi.invincibledefence.org/sovereignty_in_inv2.html
Mr Manning says some very intelligent things. But, like most of us, he
sometimes succumbs to the temptation to preach. I believe he says everyone
is already perfect? If so, he is living in a fictitious world and I would
urge him to face reality which is complex and doesn't admit of such facile
oversimplifications. I agree with most of the other stuff he says vis a vis
the imposter and well known conman JN Shrivastava who pretends to be a
'maharishi' with the answer to all our problems in order to bilk gullible
fools out of a helluva lotta cash. Sorry Billy...couldn't resist taking a
cheap shot at the old fart, knowing as I do that you think he's for real. TM
did squat for me but others say it does wonders...go figure.
Bob Brigante
This NATO-bashing just illustrates the fundamental problem with TM
management: it's primarily composed of oddballs (albeit oddballs with
PhDs), recycled hippies and so on, and the opinions of these goofs are
what Maharishi bases his knowledge of the world on: Maharishi has said
many times he never reads newspapers, etc., regarding this as a waste
of time.
After Maharishi's death, practical people will take over the TM
movement, and they won't waste time in pointless derision of
NATO/other political entities. Until then, I don't see any possibility
of TM being successful outside of India, where the emergence of the
BJP and the restoration of the Ayohda Ram temple, among other things,
signals a strong interest in a return to Vedic culture.
Bob Brigante
http://mumbull.com/comp.html
sudarsha
But how will they get past the lunatic fringe that Mahesh has so firmly set
in place?
Mahesh, quite typical of the narcissist, has feathered his nest with those
who will only confirm his own self-image. How will practical people
infiltrate this? Will King Tony invite them?
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2699/0005/2699000560/p1/article.jhtmlhtt
p://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2699/0005/2699000560/p1/article.jhtml
http://www.skepdic.com/truebeliever.html
The narcissist and the true believer make quite a formidable alliance.
"Bob Brigante" <bbri...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bob Brigante
> I would very much like to see practical people take over Mahesh's movement.
> But how will they get past the lunatic fringe that Mahesh has so firmly set
> in place?
After Maharishi's death, the practical people in the TM movement will
simply not tolerate pompous clowns like Bevan, and will push them out
of the movement. More evidence of how out-of-touch Bevan et al are:
On the Maharishi Channel Bevan said tonight that the pentagon is
spending
millions of dollars buying up satellite pictures of what is happening
in
Afghanistan so the American public will not see what is happening
there.
Furthermore he said that the so called food packages that are being
dropped
contain peanuts and pop tarts! The people find this food so
disagreeable
they feed it to their donkeys!! The karma grows, but Maharishi has
said it
will end.
I doubt if starving people are going to be too fussy about food, but
what is definitely clear is that the US govt is not buying up
satellite time in order to fool the American public about what is
happening in Afghanistan -- CNN has reporters on the ground taping
evidence of civilian deaths, something that satellite photos can't do.
The reason why the US is buying up satellite photos of Afghanistan is
to keep Taliban military intelligence analysts from finding out the
disposition of US and Northern Alliance forces.
Bob Brigante
http://mumbull.com
sudarsha
had become official, he was a very practical, sensible person. He was very
likable and seemed a wonderful choice.
"Bob Brigante" <bbri...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Petrus
>
> BillyG. <wmur...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:167A7.3636$J12.4...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > Jeff-Hey, I see you're back, maybe you could help out JRM with his
ranting
> a
> > little, sometimes he gets a little mixed up. I see you couldn't resist
> > quoting the following from MMY, is this really what he has said,
> remarkable!
> > Where did you find it??
> > Billyg.
>
> Hi Billy,
> Here's the URL for the MMY quote:
> http://maharishi.invincibledefence.org/sovereignty_in_inv2.html
That is actually page 2 the quote was from page 1
http://maharishi.invincibledefence.org/sovereignty_in_invinc.html
Is there any TMer here on this newsgroup, that has the guts to defend MMY
for this quote that only show how far the mighty have fallen?
John Manning
> I would very much like to see practical people take over Mahesh's movement.
> But how will they get past the lunatic fringe that Mahesh has so firmly set
> in place?
>
> Mahesh, quite typical of the narcissist, has feathered his nest with those
> who will only confirm his own self-image. How will practical people
> infiltrate this? Will King Tony invite them?
>
> http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2699/0005/2699000560/p1/article.jhtmlhtt
> p://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2699/0005/2699000560/p1/article.jhtml
On target and excellent description of MMY.
>
> http://www.skepdic.com/truebeliever.html
On target and excellent description of MMY's followers. Thanks Tom.
John Manning
BD13
| dropped
| contain peanuts and pop tarts! The people find this food so
| disagreeable
| they feed it to their donkeys!!
French medias gave us same news!!!!
|
| I doubt if starving people are going to be too fussy about food,
|
If we want help afgan people, we must give us food witch agree with her
culture! Peanut butter is good for eliminate stock surplus and augment
financial profits. It same thing than english solds her "animals flour" to
others country when their usage is forbindden in England.
Profit ! Profit ! Profit!
Where is love and respect???
Petrus
"BD13" <bd...@oreka.com> wrote in message
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> | Furthermore he said that the so called food packages that are being
> | dropped
> | contain peanuts and pop tarts! The people find this food so
> | disagreeable
> | they feed it to their donkeys!!
>
> French medias gave us same news!!!!
>
> |
> | I doubt if starving people are going to be too fussy about food,
> |
>
My folks aways told me that hunger makes raw beans taste sweet. So it seems
that they Afghans are really not that hungry and definitely not starving.
>
Jeff E
Africa - their faces are not sunken in at all.
Petrus <NOS...@NOWAY.NOWHERE> wrote in message
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Juho Tunkelo
> After Maharishi's death, practical people will take over the TM
> movement, and they won't waste time in pointless derision of
> NATO/other political entities. Until then, I don't see any possibility
> of TM being successful outside of India, where the emergence of the
> BJP and the restoration of the Ayohda Ram temple, among other things,
> signals a strong interest in a return to Vedic culture.
Well, just about everyone seemed to be convinced of the opposite just
a few years ago. That is, that TM would never make it in India. Let's
just wait and see, alright. I bet we all have better things to do with
our personal energy than speculate. After all, it's not like you can
place bets on something like this.. ;-)
Juho Tunkelo
More evidence of how out-of-touch Bevan et al are:
>
> On the Maharishi Channel Bevan said tonight that the pentagon is
> spending
> millions of dollars buying up satellite pictures of what is happening
> in
> Afghanistan so the American public will not see what is happening
> there.
You know, this is quite well publicized, it's not just paranoia or
speculation.
Try this link, for instance:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4278871,00.html
You gotta understand that these Maharishi Channel news sessions or
whatever they should be called, are basically responses to what is in
the news. Sure, they add their comments and spin, but they depend on
what the news media put out. If some news agency gets grumpy and says
it's because they don't want people to know, of course they'll jump on
it.
> Furthermore he said that the so called food packages that are being
> dropped
> contain peanuts and pop tarts! The people find this food so
> disagreeable
> they feed it to their donkeys!! The karma grows, but Maharishi has
> said it
> will end.
Well, this is anybody's guess. YOu know how war propaganda goes - both
ways and some more. Try this:
http://www.sptimes.com/News/102201/Floridian/Rating_the_rations.shtml
> I doubt if starving people are going to be too fussy about food, but
> what is definitely clear is that the US govt is not buying up
> satellite time in order to fool the American public about what is
> happening in Afghanistan -- CNN has reporters on the ground taping
> evidence of civilian deaths, something that satellite photos can't do.
> The reason why the US is buying up satellite photos of Afghanistan is
> to keep Taliban military intelligence analysts from finding out the
> disposition of US and Northern Alliance forces.
You know that for a fact? You work at the Pentagon? This thing just
goes to show that the news media is taken for quite a ride as they
always are during times of war.
Bob Brigante
> bbri...@yahoo.com (Bob Brigante) wrote in message news:<a30d9941.0110...@posting.google.com>...
>
> More evidence of how out-of-touch Bevan et al are:
> >
> > On the Maharishi Channel Bevan said tonight that the pentagon is
> > spending
> > millions of dollars buying up satellite pictures of what is happening
> > in
> > Afghanistan so the American public will not see what is happening
> > there.
>
> You know, this is quite well publicized, it's not just paranoia or
> speculation.
> Try this link, for instance:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4278871,00.html
>
> You gotta understand that these Maharishi Channel news sessions or
> whatever they should be called, are basically responses to what is in
> the news. Sure, they add their comments and spin, but they depend on
> what the news media put out. If some news agency gets grumpy and says
> it's because they don't want people to know, of course they'll jump on
> it.
<SNIPPED commentary on the food-drop issue>
> > what is definitely clear is that the US govt is not buying up
> > satellite time in order to fool the American public about what is
> > happening in Afghanistan -- CNN has reporters on the ground taping
> > evidence of civilian deaths, something that satellite photos can't do.
> > The reason why the US is buying up satellite photos of Afghanistan is
> > to keep Taliban military intelligence analysts from finding out the
> > disposition of US and Northern Alliance forces.
>
> You know that for a fact? You work at the Pentagon? This thing just
> goes to show that the news media is taken for quite a ride as they
> always are during times of war.
What good would it do for a US civilian to see satellite pictures? One
could not tell if the victims of a bombing raid were civilian or not
from satellite photos, and in any event, the heavy coverage by CNN of
civilian casualties makes it useless for the US government to buy
satellite photos if the purpose is to keep the American public from
seeing dead civilians -- anybody with cable TV can see all the dead
civilians and blown-up hospitals and food warehouses they want without
buying satellite photos.
If you could suggest something controversial other than shots of dead
civilians and damaged civilian properties that might be revealed by
satellite photos, please do -- but as far as I can see, the only
controversial issue that might weaken the American public's support of
the war is that of civilian casualties, and the US government is not
trying to, and is not in a position to, keep CNN and other news
agencies from reporting civilian casualties and damages, which means
that -- despite what some British reporter thinks -- the purpose of
the US satellite photo buy is to keep operational intelligence out of
the hands of the Taliban forces.
The whole point of my mentioning Bevan's absurd commentary is that the
managers of the TM movement are just not qualified to consider
themselves experts on anything other than the efficacy of TM. The TM
movement's "World Government" should stick to the domain of
consciousness, and not try to make foreign policy from their reading
of the press, who themselves in most cases not much more likely to be
right about what to make of the news than the average taxi driver. By
giving Maharishi a distorted picture of world events culled from
Bevan's ignorant reading of the papers, instead of calling upon some
professor of political science, former govt official, or other person
likely to have an informed opinion about world events, the TM movement
ends up (once again) looking foolish in public opinion.
And, of course, what good does it do to give alternative peace advice
to governments, especially when it is mixed in with often-amateurish
military and political analysis as Bevan did in his satellite
comments? Is that going to make what the TM movement has to offer any
more attractive to world leaders? It's one thing to offer something
positive (TM) to the world's population as the solution to all
problems -- it's just a waste of time to offer ill-considered
criticism to parties at war who have no idea what Vedic technologies
are, a fact that was noted by Maharishi himself when he told General
Singh (Maharishi advisor and former Indian foreign minister who met
with the US Secretary of State Colin Powell) that it wouldn't work to
talk with US officials about bringing peace through Vedic solutions --
see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&selm=a30d9941.0110121624.4aa3ccd3%40posting.google.com
Bob Brigante
http://mumbull.com