PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA: list of sentences, administrative sentences and those detained
Chiew-Seng Koay
Falun Gong practitioners:
list of sentences, administrative sentences and those detained
http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/aipub/2000/SUM/31701200.htm
The attached document records nearly 2300 cases of detention, arrest or
sentencing of Falun Gong practitioners since June 1999. These figures
reflect information available to Amnesty International in mid-March 2000
and differ from earlier figures published in AI document "The crackdown
on Falun Gong and other so-called 'heretical organizations'", AI Index:
ASA 17/11/00, published on 23 March 2000. Some of the cases are of
identified individuals, others refer to unnamed groups of people. The
document includes details of
* around 660 cases of people either held without trial in
"re-education through labour" camps or sentenced to prison terms under
the Criminal Law;
* nearly 900 recent cases of people detained in police custody; and
* around 740 cases of individuals or groups of people reported to
have been detained in July 1999, at the time that the group was banned,
but about whom no recent information has
been available.
Since the Falun Gong was banned by the Chinese government on 22 July
1999, tens of thousands of practitioners have been arbitrarily detained
by police, some of them repeatedly for short periods. Many of them are
reported to have been tortured or ill-treated in detention. Some
practitioners have been detained in psychiatric hospitals. The number of
practitioners who remain in detention is believed to be in the
thousands. Some of those detained have been charged with crimes and
sentenced after unfair trials, while others have been sent to labour
camps without trial. New arrests and detentions continue to be reported
every day.
Amnesty International is calling on the Chinese government to stop the
mass arbitrary detentions, unfair trials and other human rights
violations resulting from the crackdown on the Falun Gong and other
groups branded by the government as "heretical organizations". All the
information available indicates that the crackdown is politically
motivated, with legislation being used retroactively to convict people
on politically-driven charges, and new regulations introduced to further
restrict fundamental freedoms. For further information see AI document
"The crackdown on Falun Gong and other so-called 'heretical
organizations'", AI Index: ASA 17/11/00, 23 March 2000.
This page summarizes a 60-page document: AI Index: ASA 17/12/00, issued
by Amnesty International on 29 March 2000. Anyone wishing further
details or to take action on this issue should consult the full
document. An extensive range of our materials on this and other subjects
is available at http://www.amnesty.organd Amnesty International news
releases can be received by email:
http://www.amnesty.org/news/emailnws.htm
Nei Yan Gong
that is not the case. But mass exocutions? That is not in the spirit of
their religion, or their culture... (ok, their non-political culture). And
do you think that the army, and police would just lie down and let this
take place? Is all the bloodshed really worth it? I think you fight a
political war with politics. I feel that if those of us in the free world
were to boycott china and all that is produced there, then maybe the war of
politics would be a little less hostile. If the Chinese government knew
that all the world was opposed to it's tyranical acts then maybe it would
reconsider. Think about. How big of a threat does Falun Gong really seem
when all of your exports are sitting on a shelf and bringing you no profit.
Yes, this would cause hardship on the economics and the people of China, but
better hardships for a few years than DEAD. I think that this group ought
to get an email campaign going and make it big. Make is so big that our
email campaign be broadcast on CNN and MSN, and get Amnesty behind it. I
feel that these injustices must be stopped, but that a revolution would cost
live. Lets fight fight with fire. Get a little leverage on the bastards,
and you will have their complete attention.
A journey of a thousand miles
begins with the first step
-- Chinese Proverb
wang long <rots...@beijing.com> wrote in message
news:856j7tgd0ia0c6mb5...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:00:21 -0600, Chiew-Seng Koay
<csk...@physics.umn.edu> wrote:
>
> >PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
> >Falun Gong practitioners:
> >list of sentences, administrative sentences and those detained
> >
> >
> >http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/aipub/2000/SUM/31701200.htm
> >
> snip
>
> >
> >Amnesty International is calling on the Chinese government to stop the
> >mass arbitrary detentions, unfair trials and other human rights
> >violations resulting from the crackdown on the Falun Gong and other
> >groups branded by the government as "heretical organizations".
>
> the chinese government is held in the tight fist of a bunch of cowards.
> they will not stop their fanatic acts because they are afraid, and just
like a rabid dog, the only way to treat it is to
> kill it. the only way the Chinese people are going to get out from under
the thumb of those idiotic assholes
> is to riot, have a civil war and totally overthrow the current government.
>
> I highly recommend that all honorable Chinese citizens storm the dwellings
of communist party leaders
> and execute them all en masse. I futher recommend that communism be
outlawed in China, and that a social democracy
> be installed.
Theo
do you realize what it means ?
I don't think Chinese are a really belligerent people .. They closed the world out with their Wall to be mainly
protected from invasion ,when might have them spread around instead.
In a civil war a lot of innocent will be unnecessarily killed and suffer ..
more than now..
The communism is ending little by little.. has made his time ..the transition is on, China is getting more and more
capitalist ..and will be transformed from within through their opening to the so called "free world"
They suffered so many years that few years more won't make a big difference ..
A civil war will make a big one .. will stop the growth will rise hates will plunge the country back, and if the
communist will fight like devils and will overtake the civil revolution ?A terror regime will be set in ,worse than
ever ..
poor Chinese what a waste of lives , hopes and young blood!
Moreover when freed China might get back in the turmoil they had after the fall of PuYi.. into drug ,corruption,
prostitution, people exploitation .. it was not nice and easy to live then for common people, and freedom was a mere
word as well !
( more or less the way the actual "free world "is living )
Let things unfold as they have to ..
it is not good to provoke people from the outside and make Chinese insiders be in the front line!
FG is by its acting even if justified , is rising the tension instead of calming it down sacrifying the life and
freedom of many, many people
this is my 2 ▊f worth !
Theo
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wang long wrote:
> >It is not that I am against communism being exiled from China. Lord knows
> >that is not the case. But mass exocutions?
>
> yes, mass executions of the cowards that pretend to rule when they merely oppress.
> and if executions are not possible, then wholesale assassinations of the whole communist party heirarchy.
>
> >That is not in the spirit of
> >their religion, or their culture... (ok, their non-political culture). And
> >do you think that the army, and police would just lie down and let this
> >take place?
>
> if the mass rebellion were to take place in a well palnned out effort, nothing could be done about it.
>
> soldiers desert, some police will be just as sick of the communist plague as will some generals.
>
> > Is all the bloodshed really worth it? I think you fight a
> >political war with politics.
>
> freedom is won at the barrel of a gun, cannon or pistol.
> politics is nothing without sufficient firepower to back it up.
> words move people, but bullets get the job done at the end of it all.
>
> >I feel that if those of us in the free world
> >were to boycott china and all that is produced there, then maybe the war of
> >politics would be a little less hostile. If the Chinese government knew
> >that all the world was opposed to it's tyranical acts then maybe it would
> >reconsider.
>
> China does not care what the rest of the world thinks, if it did, then the communist party
> would have given way to free and democratic elections years ago.
>
> but instead you have a bunch of aging senile and evil dinosaurs pretending to do good for the people they enslave.
>
> every once and a while, just as in the old days of the soviet communist party, some event will trigger a convenient
> purge of the party. rght now its the falun gong bandwaggon, years ago it was the gang of four conspiracy.
>
> >Think about. How big of a threat does Falun Gong really seem
> >when all of your exports are sitting on a shelf and bringing you no profit.
>
> what do they care when many of their goods are made by prisoners in work camps.
> the government of china needs to be overthrown.
>
> >Yes, this would cause hardship on the economics and the people of China, but
> >better hardships for a few years than DEAD. I think that this group ought
> >to get an email campaign going and make it big. Make is so big that our
> >email campaign be broadcast on CNN and MSN, and get Amnesty behind it. I
> >feel that these injustices must be stopped, but that a revolution would cost
> >live. Lets fight fight with fire. Get a little leverage on the bastards,
> >and you will have their complete attention.
>
> that will only happen through a civil war. I hope it happens in my lifetime.
>
> Long live the honorable people of China
> Death to the communists and the communist party!
>
> Wang Long
>
> >
> >
> >
> >A journey of a thousand miles
> > begins with the first step
> > -- Chinese Proverb
>
> wang long <rots...@beijing.com> wrote in message
> news:856j7tgd0ia0c6mb5...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:00:21 -0600, Chiew-Seng Koay
> <csk...@physics.umn.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
> > >Falun Gong practitioners:
> > >list of sentences, administrative sentences and those detained
> > >
> > >
> > >http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/aipub/2000/SUM/31701200.htm
> > >
> > snip
> >
> > >
> > >Amnesty International is calling on the Chinese government to stop the
> > >mass arbitrary detentions, unfair trials and other human rights
> > >violations resulting from the crackdown on the Falun Gong and other
> > >groups branded by the government as "heretical organizations".
> >
CatPudding
repression, yet we have no reason to support a philosophical system based on
nebulous concepts. That is, we hate fascism, yet, we believe in reality, not
mythology.
It's important to note that the Falun Gong organization DENIES that the people
who set themselves on fire are members. Every time I hear about them on the
news supports my opinion that they are a cult & are not to be trusted,
regardless of whether their chi gong does anything.
Theo
)others were symbols ideas :communism ,Fascism others Philosophy :Zen Taoism
Confucianism and so on .. people are not stupid .. just insicure or aware of
their mortality and weakness..
and this might get them inaware and prey of tricheries ..
often good ideas start good end end evil!
But wanting to impose ideas by trichery or force or prosecution might them
be Christians Falun, or Communist is evil !
BTW Jesus was a communist that preached the freedom of poors and slaves aganst
the power of the Impire and Jew priests.... If Jesus did not exist maybe we might
still be adoring Jupiter Apollon and old greek-romans Gods . The cult of Isis
and so on as in the old Roman empire all cults were accepted ..( Huge broad mind
already ). with only one exception ,ie: thedivinity of the Roman Emperor that
everybody has to accept..... Christians did not accept and have been
presecuted..and the story teach us what happened..
But the idea that without Jesus we probably might still have the old
Greek-Rromans Gods
has a charm for its own ..
Take care
Theo
wang long wrote:
> >Regardless of the attrocities of the Chinese Government, we all can be against
> >repression, yet we have no reason to support a philosophical system based on
> >nebulous concepts. That is, we hate fascism, yet, we believe in reality, not
> >mythology.
>
> I agree, all the mythology that rules the world is the root of all our evils.
>
> communism is mythology
> the worship of some god or gods is mythology
> people throwing their lives away to some dead chap named jesus
> others who pray to something called a "devil" or "satan"
>
> people are very stupid aren't they?
>
> Wang Long
Nei Yan Gong
take his plan and put in leaders with, honesty, intrgrity, openmindedness,
and security, along with some other virtues, you would have a great system
of living. You are right, most things start out for the good, and then some
other person that is less of an Idealist and more of an Oportunist comes in
and exploits the system. That is the way it has always been. Christianity,
Communism, and even USA's Democratic system have all fallen this same fate.
And I see that this newsgroup is falling the same opportunistic fate. The
Falun Gong political agenday has taken over, and flooded the system. Now I
don't know about Falun Gong, and really I don't want to. If someone wants
to continue posting about the ACTUAL differences from Qigong and Falun Gong,
then maybe I would be would pay a little attention.
But lets keep the political discussion to newsgroups:
su.org.amnesty-international
su.org.amnesty.international
Or possibly start a Falun Gong newsgroup. But I am here, not because I am
cold hearted to the cause and to the freedom of China, but to learn more
about Gigong. I will still watch what is happening over there, but I don't
want to sift through 24 posts and resposts of the same thing, that one
simple post could have covered. This is that last that I will read, post,
or even pay attention to on this NG about Falun Gong. And if everyone else
makes this the last statement then maybe the hint will be taken, and the
discussion will move a more suited venue.
A journey of a thousand miles
begins with the first step
-- Chinese Proverb
Theo <uly...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
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nom...@webtv.net
making such comments too.). It is throwing off the purpose of the
group.
You also may be violating the groups charter.
Qi Gong, Tai Chi, any other energy systems and techniques would be
appropriate.
Thank You.