Hangup for many AMFers - my announcement of FM cure
David
continues to violate social norms.
In my specific illness there is uncertainty.
For the past 5 years it is possible that I
never had FM even though Dr. Repassy
diagnosed it. I don't know enough to
call it definitively...
That's no excuse for some AMFers to
have lost their manners.
My complaint is strong and unyielding.
David Christainsen
<~Nemesis~>
> The bashing of myself on AMF continues... It
> continues to violate social norms.
No, you continue to violate the agreed upon social environment of
Usenet.
> In my specific illness there is uncertainty.
Or you're just here to get attention (like you do in the other groups
you infect).
> That's no excuse for some AMFers to
> have lost their manners.
More narcissism on your part. Nothing's ever your fault and you're
never wrong, isn't that right, David?
> My complaint is strong and unyielding.
Your complaints are pretty much ridiculous and unending.
David
> On Jan 12, 3:17 pm, David <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The bashing of myself on AMF continues... It
> > continues to violate social norms.
>
> No, you continue to violate the agreed upon social environment of
> Usenet.
Your judgment has left you; you are grinding an ax.
> > In my specific illness there is uncertainty.
>
> Or you're just here to get attention (like you do in the other groups
> you infect).
Juvenile comment from you.
> > That's no excuse for some AMFers to
> > have lost their manners.
>
> More narcissism on your part. Nothing's ever your fault and you're
> never wrong, isn't that right, David?
You are unqualified to judge anything of the sort. My psychology
is a mystery to you.
> > My complaint is strong and unyielding.
>
> Your complaints are pretty much ridiculous and unending.
I think I know who you are because of your outrageous behavior.
David Christainsen
Queen Wakini
David wrote:
> The bashing of myself on AMF continues... It
> continues to violate social norms.
> David Christainsen
Paul T. Holland
to you at times, so to do many take issue with the variety of ways you
have come here and claimed to have answers,
only to later post that you actually have ongoing troubles. i.e., your
modalities are not any where near the successful answer(s) you
originally posted them to be
it appears most likely that you had temporary abatement, or remission,
of whatever it is that afflicts you -
you have, however always taken [attempted to] to task those who have
questioned - not accepted - your self description [at the time] of
'cure'
it has never been a difficult concept, yet you continue to hark back as
if all of your statements were not being taken in linear context.
you see, it really is fairly a simple process: stretching may help some,
breathing exercises may help some, alteration of nutritional intake may
help some, etc.
even a personal belief system may give solace if not actual surcease
that you are unable/unwilling to undertake a self review and comprehend
that all of the above in no way equates to 'cure', isn't the result of
how others address you, it is only yours to deal with.
from the beginning, i had said it is about your style. nothing more or
less.
<~Nemesis~>
wrote:
> while you may have some issue with the way in which others have replied
> to you at times, so to do many take issue with the variety of ways you
> have come here and claimed to have answers,
>
> only to later post that you actually have ongoing troubles. i.e., your
> modalities are not any where near the successful answer(s) you
> originally posted them to be
>
> it appears most likely that you had temporary abatement, or remission,
> of whatever it is that afflicts you -
>
> you have, however always taken [attempted to] to task those who have
> questioned - not accepted - your self description [at the time] of
> 'cure'
>
> it has never been a difficult concept, yet you continue to hark back as
> if all of your statements were not being taken in linear context.
>
> you see, it really is fairly a simple process: stretching may help some,
> breathing exercises may help some, alteration of nutritional intake may
> help some, etc.
>
> even a personal belief system may give solace if not actual surcease
>
> that you are unable/unwilling to undertake a self review and comprehend
> that all of the above in no way equates to 'cure', isn't the result of
> how others address you, it is only yours to deal with.
>
> from the beginning, i had said it is about your style. nothing more or
> less.
Bingo.
David
wrote:
> while you may have some issue with the way in which others have replied
> to you at times, so to do many take issue with the variety of ways you
> have come here and claimed to have answers,
You are misjudging badly on a factual basis about my alleged claims.
Those claims are in your head, Paul
> only to later post that you actually have ongoing troubles. i.e., your
> modalities are not any where near the successful answer(s) you
> originally posted them to be
WRONG - I spoke only in the context of my health. Then, I
honestly reported my illness of a non-FM nature. Clearly,
it is up-and-down in a cyclical nature.
> it appears most likely that you had temporary abatement, or remission,
> of whatever it is that afflicts you -
Partly true, but is more complicated than that.
> you have, however always taken [attempted to] to task those who have
> questioned - not accepted - your self description [at the time] of
> 'cure'
Again, Paul, the truth is more important than your specific impression
of interaction on AMF. Also, I accepted the truth whereas certain
AMFers did not.
> it has never been a difficult concept, yet you continue to hark back as
> if all of your statements were not being taken in linear context.
No! My integrity was challenged and I defended myself honestly.
> you see, it really is fairly a simple process: stretching may help some,
> breathing exercises may help some, alteration of nutritional intake may
> help some, etc.
True as far as it goes.
> even a personal belief system may give solace if not actual surcease
Belief creates experience.
> that you are unable/unwilling to undertake a self review and comprehend
> that all of the above in no way equates to 'cure', isn't the result of
> how others address you, it is only yours to deal with.
Absolutely false premise on your part; you have lost your way.
> from the beginning, i had said it is about your style. nothing more or
> less
My style is like water, my friend.
I am playing Yo Yo Ma now and it is soothing.
David Christainsen.
<~Nemesis~>
> My style is like water, my friend.
Your "style" is more like John Hinckley, David.
Cheeky Bastard
So go find another group who will believe your BS.
CB
jenniea...@gmail.com
You know, you are just as involved in this whole "violations of social
norms" as well. You attack every person who posts on your threads and
yet you claim that this causes you mental anquish. It seems to me
that if it was so troubling that you wouldn't come here and post and
also that you wouldn't read what other people say and respond.
Another thing, in another thread you stated that you were cured of FM,
yet again and you keep stating that you never had it according to your
doctor. These are some of the things that you have said in other
posts that are beyond imagination in obsurdness.
From the "God works miracles" thread
> FACT - for years it was reasonable to diagnose my
> condition as fibromyalgia; however, only recently
> did God give me the insight that my illness was
> never fibromyalgia, but mimiced mild fibromyaglia.
I have never heard of anything that mimics mild fibromyalgia. There
are many diagnosis that have similar symptomology but you find me an
illness that "mimics" mild fibromyalgia and I will let this one be.
> > FACT - for years it was reasonable to diagnose my
> > condition as fibromyalgia; however, only recently
> > did God give me the insight that my illness was
> > never fibromyalgia, but mimiced mild fibromyaglia.
> > The objective proof is that I climbed Mt. Monadnock
> > twice 7 months ago.
Oh, this one is even better! You and your doctor think that just
because you climbed a mountain you can't possibly have FM?
HAHAHAHA!!! Boy, you and your doctor need to get your heads on
straight and educate yourselves about FM, how to properly diagnose it
and the symptoms that go with it. Just because you climbed a mountain
does not prove you don't have FM it just proves that you can climb a
mountain. I am going to give you a link to a website that gives you
the symptoms of FM and for your doctor how to properly diagnose it.
If you have these symptoms then you have FM!!! DUH.
http://www.sover.net/~devstar/
These comments are from the "Tomorrow I see my doctor about my FM like
disease"
I stated this:
> I do think though that you need to say that you have had no
> symptoms and have had a possible total remission as opposed to a
> cure.
You responded:
No, that is not the complete truth. On my authority for the
considerable amount of knowledge I have accumulated...
Ok, you had said in yet another post that you had no symptoms. This
was why I recommended that you stated that you no longer have symptoms
as opposed to stating that you have been cured. This contradicts
everything you have said in the last 2 posts! You keep saying you
have an illness that mimics FM, then why did you state that you no
longer had symptoms? Also, what the hell is "your authority" and you
may be smart but if you had "considerable amount of knowledge" then
you would talk to your doctor about these wierd and crazy things that
are being stated. Stating you can't have FM because you climbed a
mountain? That is a classic! Your doctor doesn't even know what you
have let alone what he/she is talking about!
Your next comment:
NO! My wording is easily understood by average people who
are not obtuse. To summarize, my recommendations are
ALWAYS specific and often highly technical. Also, when
one makes a request in prayer, think BIG, not small.
In order to get an answer from God, it might be necessary
for the individual to perform an act of spiritual purification.
This one takes the cake and makes me laugh. We are average people and
not "obtuse" and we can't figure out what the hell is wrong with this
whole mess because of all of the statements that contradict each other
and all of this "authority" and "considerable knowledge" you have.
Don't make me laugh!
Here is another one:
You are obtuse. My cure of fibromyalgia took place
during the first half of year 2007. My current pain
level, as I type, is 5. 3 days ago it was 9. I am
severely ill.
There you go again stating that you were cured yet you stated more
then once that your doctor told you that you never had FM. Which is
it David? You just said that for the past 5 years it is possible you
never had FM and then you have also said that the doctor told you that
since you climbed that stupid mountain that you can't have had FM.
How can you keep saying that you are clear and never contridict
yourself? It is right here!!!
Here is your statement about your DR:
"Never in the history of the world has a fibromyalgic climbed
Mt. Monadnock in southern New Hampshire TWICE in
a 2-week period. I have.
As of 3 days ago - my medical doctor, Dr. Trista Repassy
of Natick, Mass, agrees with me that I do not now have
fibromyalgia and NEVER DID.
Here is one that I question:
Back up. I clearly stated that my current serious
condition is UNDIAGNOSED. However, Dr. Repassy and
I agree that some sort of serotonin deficiency is part of
the picture. Lab tests show nothing.
Can't you and all of your "considerable knowledge" figure out what
this is or is a web search too hard for you? You can search for a
serotonin deficiency condition that mimics FM can you not? I am
willing to be that there isn't any out there that mimic FM like you
are trying to claim.
Everything you say goes one way and then the next. We don't abuse
you, we merely point out your double statements and when we do you get
hostile. I am seriously wondering if you have some sort of mental
condition (not joking or being sarcastic) that makes you believe what
you are saying is true. The problem is that you say one thing and
then another and you don't even see it! We are getting tired of
seeing your posts here and want to see you post something other then
about you and your illness and how you were supposedly cured of an
illness that you never had. You don't need to take our "abuse". You
can go somewhere else.
Jennie
<~Nemesis~>
David definitely displays some form(s) of mental illness based on his
posts here and in other groups. He's long been known as a Usenet
"kook".
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
> On Jan 13, 5:44 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
> > while you may have some issue with the way in which others have replied
> > to you at times, so to do many take issue with the variety of ways you
> > have come here and claimed to have answers,
>
> You are misjudging badly on a factual basis about my alleged claims.
well, it's really very difficult to 'misjudge' claims when taken in a
linear and direct manner. here is what you have written.
nothing is alleged, only observed as you wrote them:
Jan 21 2007, 2:53 pm
>A spiritual healing of fibromyalgia ---
>Jesus healed my body and told me to run; Jesus is my friend.
the above being a stand alone, and specific claim - followed by:
Jan 22 2007, 12:32 pm
>I'm here to say that sometimes FM gets completely cured; I've met a
>woman Christian minister who is cured of her Fibromyalgia.
Jan 22 2007, 6:20 pm
>One point here is that cure of FM can be drug-free.
and then came:
Jan 23 2007, 5:28 pm
>I have FM;
Jan 29 2007, 1:35 pm
>I have FM. For exercise every day I --
>a) swim 6 laps
>b) do treadmill 30 min
>I have bought new shoes and they make a difference.
Feb 6 2007, 4:46 pm
>I recommend daily exercise, especially treadmill at least 30 minutes;
>stress management and spacing priorities; 5-HTP
>for serotonin. Valerian and/or benedryl, if necessary.
Feb 7 2007, 5:14 pm
>In my case by adjusting my attitude towards daily life comprehensively, I am beating my symptoms.
>Also, I recommend:
>Author: Starlanyl, Devin.
>Title The Fibromyalgia advocate : getting the support you need to cope with Fibromyalgia and Myofascial >pain syndrome
>Publication info. Oakland, Calif. : New Harbinger Publications, c1998.
[please note that she, and her writings, are well known and extensively
discussed on this forum - which you would have known had you bothered to
explore the postings here at all]
thus, you got a response of:
>Carl, I'd only add that there is a revised and more inclusive 2nd issue of
>this book. Many of us here think it's the best book on FM. Nanny
a response which you didn't bother to acknowledge...
you did however, advance your posting with 'bullets' - without ever
comprehending how you come across by doing such:
please note that one month earlier you posted: >Jesus healed my body
Feb 23 2007, 1:23 pm
>God gave me the right to fight this disease/limitation with everything
>I've got.
>Resources include -
>Alexander Technique
>5-HTP
>Daily workout in gym and pool
>Spontaneous dance in private to music
>Massage therapy
>Hydrotherapy
>Herbalism like valerian and chamomile
>Eat well
>Stretching wakeup exercises from Bruce Lee
>Yoga
>Tai Chi
>Prayer group and Bible study/spiritual healing group with Christian
>minister
>Singles support group for divorced etc.
>Meetup.com
>Stress and pain management
>Sleep remedies
referencing the above, may i also call your attention to your statement
in the other thread
>I told you that I don't like to talk about myself..
in the above, you are talking about yourself...specifically, and
personally
god, gym and pool, dance, massage, herbalism, bruce leee, yoga, prayer
group, bible study, christian minister, singles support group for
divorced, meetup.com
all personal, all 'you'
shortly thereafter was the exchange concerning a herbal website - the
fda warning, and your bringing up tierra - and as had already happened
several times prior - you learned that others had as much, if not more,
knowledge of the subject than yourself.
but in that thread you wrote to someone:
>Consider how ridiculous it is as you are a complete stranger who knows zero about me.
but you see david, you really had already posted much about yourself
that was/is specifically personal, and, with your style - how you
approached things
>
> Those claims are in your head, Paul
so as the above shows, there were no alleged claims in 'my' head, only
what you specifically wrote
>
> > only to later post that you actually have ongoing troubles. i.e., your
> > modalities are not any where near the successful answer(s) you
> > originally posted them to be
>
> WRONG - I spoke only in the context of my health. Then, I
> honestly reported my illness of a non-FM nature. Clearly,
> it is up-and-down in a cyclical nature.
as is chronologically shown from your own hand, you stated cure, then
proceded thru the same search for answers as have most folks here -
as to whether you actually have fibro or some other medical conditon -
here is the facts as you have stated them:
1) a doctor told you it was fm
2) you tried many approaches for relief
3) you doctor says well...hmmm...
4) based upon a climbing experiance, fm ruled out...
bottom line - your actual medical condition is still unknown, and that
means it may, or may not be fibro
you weren't cured, nor do you have a therapy that does anything other
than 'help'
and, i will remind you of something that 'i' wrote to you back in the
beginning of all this:
if i works for you, that is good, i'm glad that i does - ymmv, and diff
strokes for...
>
> > it appears most likely that you had temporary abatement, or remission,
> > of whatever it is that afflicts you -
>
> Partly true, but is more complicated than that.
that is what folks have been telling you each time you've made your
absolutist pronouncements,
isn't it david?
>
> > you have, however always taken [attempted to] to task those who have
> > questioned - not accepted - your self description [at the time] of
> > 'cure'
>
> Again, Paul, the truth is more important than your specific impression
> of interaction on AMF.
truth is subjective when it comes to what one writes and intends, vs
what one 'conveys' - you just don't like that fact that others don't
operate on the same linguistic wavelength - nd you just keep banging
your head against that 'ol brick wall of percelption...how is it that
soooooo many, in sooo many gorups have the same reaction?
>Also, I accepted the truth whereas certain
> AMFers did not.
you accepted somelthing that you 'believe' - belief is subjective...
>
> > it has never been a difficult concept, yet you continue to hark back as
> > if all of your statements were not being taken in linear context.
>
> No! My integrity was challenged and I defended myself honestly.
your 'statements' were challenged because they were, and are, narrowly
absolutist. you totally fail to grasp [or, at best, to interact on the
subjective basis] the subjective nature of the very syndrome you
were/are writing about.
>
> > you see, it really is fairly a simple process: stretching may help some,
> > breathing exercises may help some, alteration of nutritional intake may
> > help some, etc.
>
> True as far as it goes.
of course
>
> > even a personal belief system may give solace if not actual surcease
>
> Belief creates experience.
>
not always
> > that you are unable/unwilling to undertake a self review and comprehend
> > that all of the above in no way equates to 'cure', isn't the result of
> > how others address you, it is only yours to deal with.
>
> Absolutely false premise on your part; you have lost your way.
you have not been cured of anything - your own writings states so
other react to 'how' you present yourself, and information - 'thley'
tell you so
that i personally don't agree with what you have been doing is a simple
truth
i only hold a mirror
>
> > from the beginning, i had said it is about your style. nothing more or
> > less
>
> My style is like water, my friend.
you have written such before - yet i would venture that most simply
don't see it in you - unless you mean in frozen form...
>
> I am playing Yo Yo Ma now and it is soothing.
>
enjoy it
> David Christainsen.
paul
<~Nemesis~>
wrote:
<snipped majority for brevity>
> you have written such before - yet i would venture that most simply
> don't see it in you - unless you mean in frozen form...
Good reply. Now we'll see if he "gets it" (odds are against it,
sadly).
David
wrote:
> sigh
>
> David wrote:
>...
> > I am playing Yo Yo Ma now and it is soothing.
>
> enjoy it
>
> > David Christainsen.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't think much of your evaluation/observation of my material.
Be that as it may, I did read Starlanyl and recommend her to other
AMFers.
Please unsigh yourself; I know you can do it.
David Christainsen
David
I gave my honest reaction to Paul's message, which doubtless took
him some time to compile.
Let's see if you and Paul "get it". It's in the hands of God.
David Christainsen
<~Nemesis~>
> I don't think much of your evaluation/observation of my material.
You never think much of what anyone has to say to you if it's not a
glowing report and the desired affirmation, David.
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 5:07 pm, "<~Nemesis~>" <kaseybec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 14, 1:56 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > <snipped majority for brevity>
> >
> > > you have written such before - yet i would venture that most simply
> > > don't see it in you - unless you mean in frozen form...
> >
> > Good reply. Now we'll see if he "gets it" (odds are against it,
> > sadly).
>
> I gave my honest reaction to Paul's message, which doubtless took
> him some time to compile.
actually very little time all, literally a couple of minutes only -
i'm a gimp with an excellant memory and a knack for boolean string seach
to retrieve known material - no biggee at all.
>
> Let's see if you and Paul "get it". It's in the hands of God.
since you invoke god, i remind you that with free will, it's really not
in his hands, rather on you...
>
> David Christainsen
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 4:56 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
> > sigh
> >
> > David wrote:
> >...
> > > I am playing Yo Yo Ma now and it is soothing.
> >
> > enjoy it
> >
> > > David Christainsen.
> >
> > paul- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I don't think much of your evaluation/observation of my material.
hmmm - so be it, it shows what you have written and the dichotomy
therein observable to the reader.
and the readers have consistantly questioned you on it - syle david,
style...
>
> Be that as it may, I did read Starlanyl and recommend her to other
> AMFers.
>
> Please unsigh yourself; I know you can do it.
lol - not to worry
>
> David Christainsen
fran
>
> - Show quoted text -
David, just out of curiosity, do you work: You devote a lot of time
to threapy just to quote some of them "god, gym and pool, dance,
massage, herbalism, bruce leee, yoga, prayer
> group, bible study, christian minister, singles support group for
> divorced, meetup.com" When do you have time to work? Or are you on SSDI--fran
David
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am answering in precise words - I am self-employed. I do
not work for a boss; I am my own boss. I am largely free.
David Christainsen
P.S.
I am serious about prayer for myself and believers.
gnn4...@surewest.net
permanently into the ether:
>You are unqualified to judge anything of the sort. My psychology
>is a mystery to you.
Borderline Personality Disorder. This is a learned behavior, not a real mental
illness. And it is willful--he does some of it on purpose (maybe not
consciously).
Nancy
Paul T. Holland
> "I affirm that my undergraduate degree is in both political science
> and
> psychology; yet, I also know a little meteorology as well. "
[david uses a variety of titles for himself, asserting thru that title a
stature that may not actually be - as the average individual would view
it - earned in rl.
for instance, in another froup he titles himself as a meteorologist -
that usually comes with a degree, and there are other examples of
titles. including that of minister.]
the actual fact would appear to be: back in '03 he wrote that he was a
software engineer, but due to his health, "it will take a MIRACLE for
him to be hired in today's job market"
he is 60 or 61 -
f: psychiatrist
m: music teacher
>By way of personal background - I married Betty Clark in an
>Episcopalian/Christian
>Wedding Ceremony in 1975. It was a mixed marriage in terms of religious
>denomination - Quaker & Episcopalian.
divorced (1987) [she from him against his will]
> We have 3 children which we parent together --- Jennifer, Wendy & Kenneth.
>In the same way that I was obstinate about my meteorological career,
[note the refer to meteor...yet that is not his degree or profession]
>so also have I been very determined towards righting the wrong of my divorce. "
[that the friends fellowship should not have 'allowed' her to divorce
him]
2000 foxy <david_christain...@hotmail.com>
>Friends,
>With divorce over past 15 years, I, a man, have no chance for a better life.
>Accept that a considerable subset of divorces in "morning in America" are arbitrary.
>Moreover, after being up and down violently in employment in my professional field, I feel
>the divorce issue itself is not really a gender issue. The injustices in the big picture cancel
>out between the sexes.
'disfellowed' from the wellesley meeting [quaker/friend]
>Early Nov `97 at Wellesley Quaker Worship. Being interrupted by Hugh Lippincott(acting for Ministry
>& Counsel) & ordered to leave by Elise Boulding (acting on her own but successfully encouraging
>over 70 people to stand up) while I am speaking to Sanctity of Marriage...
>cc: Betty Clark(ex-wife), Elise Boulding, Hugh
> Lippincott, Roland Stern, Hal White, Lorraine
> Witzburg etc.
david's statement that he doesn't like to talk about himself
notwithstanding, the above is all from 'his' own hand
bottom line, david has been spending a great deal of time over the past
decade in a number groups, presenting himself as an expert in a variety
of fields - his presentational style here, is the same in every other
group he frequents.
and, for the most part creating the same atmosphere around himself as he
has here.
you will notice that he used a particular technique to answer your query
David
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:18:06 -0800 (PST), David <pchristain...@yahoo.com> etched
> permanently into the ether:
>
> >You are unqualified to judge anything of the sort. My psychology
> >is a mystery to you.
>
> Borderline Personality Disorder. This is a learned behavior, not a real mental
> illness. And it is willful--he does some of it on purpose (maybe not
> consciously).
>
> Nancy
You are dishonest.
David Christainsen
David
wrote:
>...
> bottom line, david has been spending a great deal of time over the past
> decade in a number groups, presenting himself as an expert in a variety
> of fields - his presentational style here, is the same in every other
> group he frequents.
>
> and, for the most part creating the same atmosphere around himself as he
> has here.
You are in error. I have not been presenting myself as an expert in a
variety of fields. If others think I have expertise, so be it.
What is important now is that with my doctor's help I can turn
the corner with the right dosage of medication of a certain kind.
David Christainsen
saavik
nanny
"David" <pchris...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a87758cd-d98c-44c5...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
<~Nemesis~>
> David wrote:
> An anti-psychotic, one presumes????
...and hopes.
<~Nemesis~>
> If others think I have expertise, so be it.
I seriously doubt anyone does think that.
> What is important now is that with my doctor's help I can turn
> the corner with the right dosage of medication of a certain kind.
So the fact that you are seriously mentally ill is not important? I
think it is, Davey.
David
I am not being treated for mental illness by Dr. Trista Repassy
or by anyone else because there is no mental illness in my
condition..
You are not qualified to suggest otherwise.
You are a troll and a cyber-stalker.
David Christainsen
David
>>David" <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>...
>> I am serious about prayer for myself and believers.
Now, I offer a brief prayer for all AMFers that God have mercy
this day.
Amen,
David
<~Nemesis~>
> I am not being treated for mental illness by Dr. Trista Repassy
> or by anyone else because there is no mental illness in my
> condition..
>
> You are not qualified to suggest otherwise.
You wish.
> You are a troll and a cyber-stalker.
No, I'm actually just a regular person who is posting and responding
to posts on Usenet.
Hey, David - I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore!?
LOL! (I knew you couldn't resist me ;-)
Michael B
being disdainful of anyone talking about medical stuff without
medical credentials, to making internet diagnosis of cerebral
dysfunction. In such a short amount of time.
From stalker to diagnostician in a mere couple of weeks.
And only the middle of the month, having already posted
450 times.
Nemesis, I suggest turning off your computer, coming out of
your basement room, kissing your Mom goodbye, and actually walking
outside for a while.
<~Nemesis~>
> My goodness, I am impressed. "~Nemesis~" has gone from
> being disdainful of anyone talking about medical stuff without
> medical credentials, to making internet diagnosis of cerebral
> dysfunction.
I don't recall ever demonstrating disdain, just curiosity about where
you received your medical degree.
> In such a short amount of time.
> From stalker to diagnostician in a mere couple of weeks.
Yeah...well - since I never was a stalker and have been a
diagnostician for a few decades, your point is moot (no surprise
there).
> And only the middle of the month, having already posted
> 450 times.
> Nemesis, I suggest turning off your computer, coming out of
> your basement room, kissing your Mom goodbye, and actually walking
> outside for a while.
Oh, believe me, I get out alot. Way too much, IMO. Full-time job,
part-time job, currently working toward another graduate degree, home-
life with my spouse.
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
fran
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Paul, what you have written is disturbing and indeed frightening.
Thanks for the back ground info.-fran
David
>
> - Show quoted text -
That does not mean that what Paul has written is worthwhile.
I say that it is not worthwhile. Why don't you forget it?
David
<~Nemesis~>
> That does not mean that what Paul has written is worthwhile.
>
> I say that it is not worthwhile. Why don't you forget it?
What Paul wrote is confirmation of what I, and possibly others, have
suspected. You are a frightening man who has very serious mental and
emotional issues.
You are not the enigma you would like to believe you are.
Paul T. Holland
>I have not been presenting myself as an expert in a variety of fields.
it's kind of sad really, here are just a few that he has written:
01-11-2007
>Comments, please.
>David Christainsen - meteorologist
22 nov 2007, 21:06
>It is David the real, live meteorologist in Newton, Mass USA
>who spreads around the title meteorologist in complete honesty.
Aug 5 2004, 1:50 pm
Moving along, I used to teach software engineering too - for me JAVA was
like a bracing cup of coffee.
Date: 7 Feb 2007 14:40:59 -0800
>I recommend -
> As a former meteorologist, I
level of expertise:
>On the other hand, just now I searched the Google Newsgroup Archives
>and found that I am the only person that has talked about tipping factors.
to which someone replied:
>> I get 51 hits for "tipping factor" +"climate change" on Google.
david responded:
>OK, you made the term singular.
walking away from his original claim that he was the 'only' one talking
about...
Date: Apr 4 2007, 5:49 pm
>As someone who has worked in psychology,
Date:Feb 12 2007, 4:23 pm
>on my former Christian Origins Internet Forum (I was moderator).
Sep 23 2003, 8:47 am
>David Christainsen
>Wellesley, Mass USA
>Moderator of Qumran/Christian Origins Internet Forum (75 members)
>Dr. Barbara Thiering is my star member
why did he stop? with such a star member? a very direct reason:
>For example, I have commented a few months earlier that Dr. Thiering and I had a disagreement and I
>stepped down from being Moderator on my Yahoo Christian Origins Forum.
david has a long history of arguments concerning thiering and the above
verifies this includes the woman herself - and has also had some
difficulties with what and how he writes about it to others. here is
one that is illustrative:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Engineer wrote
>The reason is this: You have repeatedly written things that
>are untrue, claiming that various URLs say things that they
>don't say. On this one occasion you admitted doing so on
>purpose. Exposing this pattern of deception saves everone a
>lot of time wasted reading URLs you post.
>
> "If I read further will I come across a connection to the
> Knights Templar?"
>
> -John asking David Christainsen a question
>
> "No - I invite any other SRQer to check the 2 Thiering
> urls for the truth which has been misrepresented by John."
>
> -David Christainsen telling a lie in reply to John
>
> "My NO is to cut John off from mindless tangents like
> Templars that exist as itty-bitty factoids on BT's
> website. For John to lock on to that is useless nit-
> picking and a misrepresentation."
>
> -David Christainsen, after John pointed out the lie.
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Oct 23 2007, 6:47 pm
>You failed to pick up my grounding in archaeology.
Oct 23 2007, 10:10 am
> David Christainsen
> (current meteorologist and former experimental psychologist in small
> groups)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
the above references were written by david in various groups -
giving such [unsupported/unverified] credentials is, imo, presenting
oneself as an 'expert'.
and is just more of the same as applies to his 'style'
be well all
paul
David
wrote:
> david wrote
>
> >I have not been presenting myself as an expert in a variety of fields.
>
> it's kind of sad really, here are just a few that he has written:
You are projecting in that I stayed within the truth in what I
posted.
Any field I mentioned such as meteorology or SW engineering
is in my background. In daily life in Newton, Mass I still
practise these fields with average people.
Sadness is your projection. Please re-adjust yourself.
David Christainsen
David
No, it is not a confirmation.
Your suspicions were your projections.
Also, I do not now think I am an enigma to the degree you
imply. IOW, I have successfuly humanized myself on the NGs.
David Christainsen
blinded
you are one sick (not ill) sick bastard.
You are a legend in your own mind.
I am surprised that you have not YET gone off the deep edge and take a few
bodies with you
Humanity has horsepistols were we lock up people like you to protect society
from you.
When and how did you escape
"David" <pchris...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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skittish
Queen Wakini
<~Nemesis~>
> You speak pigeon?
Queenie!? Don't you know it be "pidgin", not "pigeon" like flying
bird?
Queen Wakini
Paul T. Holland
squab, with a honey mustard glaze...wild rice and mushroom stuffing
Copper Fox
that sounds yummy!
Copper Fox
Marquise de Malaise
~~~~ Well of course I put the laundry in the 'fridge, doesn't
everyone??...... What laundry??? ~~~~
David
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Needless to say, you are off topic for this
thread.
BTW, I saw my doctor and the 2 of us now
have a good handle on how to treat my disease.
David Christainsen
Queen Wakini
David
>
> - Show quoted text -
So, the probability is that God gave me a cure of fibromyalgia.
David Christainsen
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
> On Jan 21, 1:59 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
> > indeed i do -
> >
> > squab, with a honey mustard glaze...wild rice and mushroom stuffing
> >
> >
> >
> > Queen Wakini wrote:
> >
> > > You speak pigeon?
> >
> > > > the above references were written by david in various groups -
> > > > giving such [unsupported/unverified] credentials is, imo, presenting
> > > > oneself as an 'expert'.
> >
> > > > and is just more of the same as applies to his 'style'
> >
> > > > be well all
> >
> > > > paul- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Needless to say, you are off topic for this
> thread.
[a teensy bit sarcastically: you think so, do you?]
not sarcastically: learn to recognize a little bit of harmles humor
david - it does wonders for the body and soul...
>
> BTW, I saw my doctor and the 2 of us now
> have a good handle on how to treat my disease.
>
well, i can only hope the best for you - whatever the disease turns out
to be.
Paul T. Holland
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
> Also, I do not now think I am an enigma to the degree you
> imply. IOW, I have successfuly humanized myself on the NGs.
unfortunately for your self-assesment david, the human norm is that such
be judged by the observer(s)
you, as the protagonist, are still embroiling yourself in needless
circular disagreement, you have not yet achieved the state you declare.
>
> David Christainsen
Paul T. Holland
once again from you-
in another post, you declared that you did not have fibromyalgia,
therefore you can not be cured of it.
perhaps you would be better served by putting more thought into how you
phrase your statements so as to avoid needless controversy that such
brings down upon you
Cheeky Bastard
>Needless to say, you are off topic for this
>thread.
>BTW, I saw my doctor and the 2 of us now
>have a good handle on how to treat my disease.
>David Christainsen
Care to tell us *all* *exactly* what your "disease" is?
My guess it involves therapy and it's not physical LOL
CB
skittish
David
>
> - Show quoted text -
Let Paul be light hearted, by all means, but not at
someone else's expense.
David Christainsen
David
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
On the contrary you would be better served if you put
more thought and less so-called humor into your posts.
David Christainsen
David
> "David" <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I earlier explained I don't like to talk about myself.
If you have something positive to contribute on FM,
please do so.
David Christainsen
David
Right now, it mimics. I have found some relief in the gym and pool.
David Christainsen
Paul T. Holland
post and query made to 'me'
therefore, there wasn't 'anyone else's expense' [other than my own] to
be taken into account
this is a case of 'you' projecting david, so try to just relax and let
it go.
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
> On Jan 22, 3:42 pm, "Cheeky Bastard" <InvalidEm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Care to tell us *all* *exactly* what your "disease" is?
> >
> > My guess it involves therapy and it's not physical LOL
> >
> > CB
>
> I earlier explained I don't like to talk about myself.
indeed, you have written this before - yet the fact is that you do.
often, about a myriad of personal subjects and issues.
the above response is nothing more than simple avoidance.
>
> If you have something positive to contribute on FM,
> please do so.
he does, he has, he probably will continue to do so.
he does not however, require your approbation to do so.
>
> David Christainsen
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
>
> On the contrary you would be better served if you put
> more thought and less so-called humor into your posts.
>
> David Christainsen
well david, since i considered the facts of your multiple statements,
an finding the obvious in the duality of your words, 'more' thought
would not have changed the conclusion that you misspoke.
so this is just another example of you're not actually addressing what
is written to you;
nor am i inclined to desist with the occasional bit of humor.
Cheeky Bastard
On Jan 22, 3:42 pm, "Cheeky Bastard" <InvalidEm...@aol.com> wrote:
> "David" <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:995c4670-c61a-4990...@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 21, 1:59 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Needless to say, you are off topic for this
> >thread.
> >BTW, I saw my doctor and the 2 of us now
> >have a good handle on how to treat my disease.
> >David Christainsen
>
> Care to tell us *all* *exactly* what your "disease" is?
>
> My guess it involves therapy and it's not physical LOL
>
> CB
>I earlier explained I don't like to talk about myself.
Your posting history shows other wise David
>If you have something positive to contribute on FM,
>please do so.
You claim you don't have FMS so why are you here again?
David Christainsen
Ps. piss off
CB
Cheeky Bastard
"Paul T. Holland" <phol...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:479673DC...@bellatlantic.net...
AT LEAST I've posted what I found out what I REALLY have after all the
years.
It's apparent David has mental issues and this is why he avoids direct
questions.
CB
David
> "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in messagenews:479673DC...@bellatlantic.net...
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are quite mistaken. You always think in your favor.
David Christainsen
gnn4...@surewest.net
permanently into the ether:
>You are dishonest.
How creative. LOL Prove it.
Ian
> For the past 5 years it is possible that I
> never had FM even though Dr. Repassy
> diagnosed it. I don't know enough to
> call it definitively...
So let me get this right. You've come here, bothering these people
with claims of a cure - and now you say you may not even have the
condition in the first place?
Ian
David
You have got it wrong. These people were bothering
me most of Year 2007 with some important exceptions recently.
David Christainsen
skittish
why come here?
David
>
> - Show quoted text -
You forget the important, recent exceptions.
David Christainsen
blinded
David Christainsen
the are no exceptions, we all hate you
Cheeky Bastard
"David" <pchris...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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David Christainsen
Look you stupid fucking asshole, YOU came to this group! NOBODY! Brought you
here or Emailed you're mental self.
The exception would be the newbs who answer you and don't know you.
You've proven to be a true troll, even Dawgs knows when to shut the fuck up.
CB
fran
wrote:
>
> this is a case of 'you' projecting david, so try to just relax and let
> it go.
Better yet, David, why not just go!-fran
David
> "David" <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
If you get upset, it makes my day.
DC
<~Nemesis~>
> If you get upset, it makes my day.
Ah, yes. The *real*, non-meteorologist, non-fibromyalgic, non-
archaeologist, non-Quaker David Christainsen rears his authentic
head...
Michael B
you really hate that, don't you?
saavik
<~Nemesis~>
> It's anyone's right to be in any unmoderated newsgroup they want -
> you really hate that, don't you?
Not at all. I have never suggested that David stop posting or post
somewhere else.
Exactly what point are you trying to make here, Mikey? Your lame,
misplaced attempt at throwing my own words back at me only
demonstrates your poor reading comprehension skills and how jejune you
really are.
<~Nemesis~>
Mikey was trying to throw my own statement back in my face, Saavik,
and doing a very poor job of it, at that. My statement "It's anyone's
right to be in any unmoderated newsgroup they want - you really hate
that, don't you?" was made in response to an overzealous woman's
megalomaniacal need to tell other posters that they didn't belong in
certain groups. I have never told David he shouldn't post or couldn't
post in any group he may belong to. I am a strong supporter in free
speech, but not a supporter of someone who deliberately lies and
misrepresents themselves.
Mikey, for whatever reason, has decided that he should take up Davey's
case - although why he would want to enable a deluded liar with
symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder is beyond me.
saavik
Part of the reason Mikey has taken up Dave C.'s cause in this case, and
the reason he glommed in on "the expertise he does not have", is because
Mikey himself has had some issues here with his supposed qualifications...
Paul T. Holland
David wrote:
>
>
>
> If you get upset, it makes my day.
>
> DC
then you are not following the precepts you claim to live by...
Michael B
including the John Hinkley reminder.
When discussions of credentials get brought to the front, feel free
to announce how you are so well qualified to make such
pronouncements.
I used to coach youth soccer, with kids just starting out, at ages
of 6 and 7 years years old. The toughest thing was getting them
to stop leaving their positions. It was as though that ball was a
magnet, drawing them along. David is currently functioning in the
same way.
People pop up all over the place for the opportunity to tell him
how wrong he is. From all over the place, including you having
followed him here.
Looking at the situation from the outside, David could be no
better troll than he has been. Folks jump at each morsel.
Even if the bait is clearly marked, as in the title for this thread.
He is indeed good at what he does, at most levels.
Don't you even feel embarrassed at snapping at it so quickly?
Don't you feel awkward being the first to remind others that
they need to be taking a bite of it, too? It isn't a matter of
throwing your words back to you, it's the reminder that you
were in a comfortable niche till David went trolling elsewhere,
and you felt the need to move to where the water was being
stirred so invitingly.
Jejune is an excellent word, and I'm glad for you that you
can use it. But remember that it also applies to the feast
you insist on attending.
<~Nemesis~>
> No, you're correct. You have merely characterized him as insane,
No, I have characterized him as very probably mentally ill - and I
believe that he has demonstrated that numerous times in numerous posts
in numerous groups. I am not the only one who has recognized this -
in fact, in that aspect, I am in the company of several who have an
even longer history with David than I.
> including the John Hinkley reminder.
I wasn't the first to accurately and independently draw that parallel;
I doubt I will be the last.
> When discussions of credentials get brought to the front, feel free
> to announce how you are so well qualified to make such
> pronouncements.
Well, many others have done that work already - and have found that
David not only doesn't have *any* of those credentials, he has little
to no educational background in the areas he claims to be an expert at
as well.
Kind of like you, I imagine.
> I used to coach youth soccer, with kids just starting out, at ages
> of 6 and 7 years years old. The toughest thing was getting them
> to stop leaving their positions. It was as though that ball was a
> magnet, drawing them along. David is currently functioning in the
> same way.
Silly analogy.
David shows the obsessive and perceverative behavior characteristic of
one who has deep, and possibly undiagnosed mental-illness. From what
I understand, there is even a law-enforcement record to back up this
etiology.
> Don't you even feel embarrassed at snapping at it so quickly?
Nope. Nothing to be embarassed about.
> Don't you feel awkward being the first to remind others that
> they need to be taking a bite of it, too?
I've never had to remind anyone of such. David's behavior speaks for
itself with those who have eyes and half-a-brain.
> It isn't a matter of
> throwing your words back to you, it's the reminder that you
> were in a comfortable niche till David went trolling elsewhere,
> and you felt the need to move to where the water was being
> stirred so invitingly.
Poor assessment on your part.
> Jejune is an excellent word, and I'm glad for you that you
> can use it.
One you likely had to look up for it's meaning.
> But remember that it also applies to the feast
> you insist on attending.
David should stop setting the table and inviting participants, don't
you think?
Michael B
Thank you.
As a courtesy to you, spelling errors not being counted.
<~Nemesis~>
Honestly, I think the only point you have isn't about me or David -
rather, it's all about you.
> As a courtesy to you, spelling errors not being counted.
I don't use a spell-checker since I post from Google Groups. That
being said, overall my spelling errors are, unless I am extremely
tired, very few and far between.
Nice try at pedantic nit-picking, though.
Michael B
word like perceverative, it would be swell if they spelled it
correctly.
And I admit, I find the use of "it's" as something other than
a contraction to be rather annoying. As in "One you likely
had to look up for it's meaning."
your assumption that I had to look it up.
Interesting that you note that you don't use a spell checker
since you post from Google Groups. I also post from Google
Groups, and I care enough to have the spell checker enabled.
Well, enough about you, have a good day, I've got a project
to finish.
On Jan 29, 8:04 pm, "<~Nemesis~>" <kaseybec...@gmail.com> wrote:
<~Nemesis~>
> You may be right, but if a person sees fit to try to use a
> word like perceverative, it would be swell if they spelled it
> correctly.
> And I admit, I find the use of "it's" as something other than
> a contraction to be rather annoying. As in "One you likely
> had to look up for it's meaning."
> As for the content of the phrase, I don't have a problem with
> your assumption that I had to look it up.
Sure you do. You like to be right and perceived as extremely
intelligent - your "medical" posts are testimony to such. The thought
that anyone would know you didn't understand the meaning of a dead
word bothers you. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't have
mentioned it to begin with.
See ya.
David
You are juvenile. I followed your entire conversation.
David Christainsen
Michael B
It is NOT a dead word, I have used it with people that knew
what it meant. Last time was about two months ago regarding
a particularly juvenile word game. Sorry if you don't travel with
similar folks, too bad about your poor SAT scores.
Feel free to analyze me, feel free to be wrong.
On Jan 30, 10:43 am, "<~Nemesis~>" <kaseybec...@gmail.com> wrote:
Paul T. Holland
get any dessert <g>
Queen Wakini
<~Nemesis~>
> You are juvenile.
No, David - that would be you.
I followed your entire conversation.
Well, bully for you, David. Is this supposed to be some kind of
implied threat that you're watching even if you don't comment? LOL!
(Oh, and I thought you weren't going to reply to me anymore...)
Cheeky Bastard
CB
"Paul T. Holland" <phol...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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nanny
Michael B
Not planning on having any leftovers, are we?
On Jan 30, 11:10 pm, "nanny" <gloria...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
> And, tonight the only choice is spinach ;-) Nanny
> "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in messagenews:47A0E2B4...@bellatlantic.net...
David
I don't enjoy your conversation but follow along
for the discipline.
David Christainsen
Copper Fox
No one was talking to you David. And no one cares that you followed an
entire conversation
Copper Fox
Marquise de Malaise
~~~~ Well of course I put the laundry in the 'fridge, doesn't
everyone??...... What laundry??? ~~~~
Copper Fox
OH! Hey Everybody, David gets off on abuse. It gives him a Stiffy.
Copper Fox
Marquise de Malaise
~~~~ Well of course I put the laundry in the 'fridge, doesn't
everyone??...... What laundry??? ~~~~
David wrote:
<snip>
David
> Would that be discipline as in Bondage and Discipline?
>
> OH! Hey Everybody, David gets off on abuse. It gives him a Stiffy.
>
> Copper Fox
Complete rubbish on your part. I enjoy Tony Bennett instead.
In fact, I recommend music therapy.
David Christainsen