exercise
rian
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Jan van Roijen <j.van....@chello.nl>
Help ME Circle, 24 april 2001
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Effects of pool_based and land_based aerobic exercise on women with
fibromyalgia/chronic widespread muscle pain.
Arthritis Rheum 2001 Feb;45(1):42_7
Jentoft ES, Kvalvik AG, Mengshoel AM.
Haugesund Sanitetsforening Rheumatism Hospital, Norway.
PMID: 11308060
OBJECTIVE: To examine the effects of pool_based (PE) and land_based (LE)
exercise programs on patients with fibromyalgia.
METHODS: The outcomes were assessed by the Fibromyalgia Impact
Questionnaire, the Arthritis Self_Efficacy Scale, and tests of physical
capacity.
RESULTS: Eighteen subjects in the PE group and 16 in the LE group
performed a structured exercise program. After 20 weeks, greater
improvement in grip strength was seen in the LE group compared with the
PE group (P < 0.05). Statistically significant improvements were seen in
both groups in cardiovascular capacity, walking time, and daytime
fatigue. In the PE group improvements were also found in number of days
of feeling good, self_reported physical impairment, pain, anxiety, and
depression. The results were mainly unchanged at 6 months followup.
CONCLUSION: Physical capacity can be increased by exercise, even when
the
exercise is performed in a warm_water pool. PE programs may have some
additional effects on symptoms.
--
Rian
Life is a test. It is only a test. If this were real life, we would have
been
given better instructions
René Lynette
I can attest to this! I've done the warm water exercises and it helped me
walk 1/3 mile a day. Before I started, I could barely walk to the bathroom.
It worked for me!
Rene'
Royal Mess
"rian" <ri...@infocom.demon.nl> wrote in message
(Snip...): Effects of pool_based and land_based aerobic exercise on women
with
: fibromyalgia/chronic widespread muscle pain.
(Snip...):
: OBJECTIVE: To examine the effects of pool_based (PE) and land_based (LE)
: exercise programs on patients with fibromyalgia.
(Snip...)
: CONCLUSION: Physical capacity can be increased by exercise, even when
Erica M.
relief for the fibro, but have been told by pain clinic doc that it wouldn't be
a good idea unless the water can be controlled at room temp. Higher temps can
exacerbate MS flares (which explains why I no longer get pleasure from a long,
hot shower - major leg pain about an hour later), and even cause an episode.
Bummer. So, I have to be careful about water temp.
luv & soft bunny hugs,
little bunny foo-foo
In article <988584881.11541....@news.demon.nl>, "rian"
<ri...@infocom.demon.nl> wrote:
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Subject: exercise
From: "rian" <ri...@infocom.demon.nl>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:39:12 +0200
Deirdre
<< Rian, thanks for posting this. I was looking forward to water
aerobics for pain relief for the fibro, but have been told by pain
clinic doc that it wouldn't be a good idea unless the water can be
controlled at room temp. Higher temps can exacerbate MS flares (which
explains why I no longer get pleasure from a long, hot shower - major
leg pain about an hour later), and even cause an episode. Bummer. So, I
have to be careful about water temp. luv & soft bunny hugs, little bunny
foo-foo>>
Hi, Rian and LBFF - what are you getting out of this abstract that has
almost no hard information in it - for me? I don't know who those people
were, what their symptoms were, what their status - nothing - and we're
supposed to get some insight into something from this tiny little
nothing study? sorry?
And BTW I agree with your doctor LBFF but according to what Joan's
saying about Cheney/Lapp (and according to my "findings" (heh, heh)
playing around in my bathtub in Trail, you have to *cool down* and
*considerably*.
I remembered Barbara Frumm and what she did for years - soaking in a
really cold tub every single morning - bringing her core temp down
exactly as suggested and thus slowing or lessening cytokines and from my
POV lessening the (inflammatory, heh heh) effects of oxidants which is
why I believe in hot/cold showers, hot/cold baths; taking B-12/folic
acid; and taking MSM and anti oxidants. The oxidants are popularly known
as "free radicals" as far as I've been able to figure.
So what's up, doc?
Luv y'all, speak to me. People who are heat intolerant and feel as
though they're burning up probably *are*. Just a few rambling thoughts
on the subject. The Norwegian study as it's presented here doesn't tell
me a heck of a lot because it just isn't detailed enough. I don't see
anything about selection criteria. Nothing. Without selection criteria I
submit a report is woithless, to qwote the Wabbit.
Love from Mrs Magoo ;-)
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Katroberts
Without finding my fibrodictionary this morning, what does LBFF mean?
Thanks,
Kathy in Sacto
Nora
That's the way Erica M. signs her posts.
Nora
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rian
have the same results as on land walking.
Deirdre <dei...@netidea.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Alex Barna
The fibropedia http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii/fibropedia.html say's "LBFF: Little
Bunny foo-foo the signature used by a FMily member."
GramPaHugs,
Alex,
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Deirdre
<< I just posted it, because it shows you can do a nice warm water walk
and have the same results as on land walking. >>
I'm sorry, Rian. I even forgot to thank you for posting it - thank you.
Really.
I just don't see a lot here. It interests me because they must have been
trying to show there was no particular advantage to weight bearing floor
aerobics. And that's really important but I'm not seeing what I'm
looking for here. Sorry. I wish there were another version of the report
- maybe a full length version.
Anyway what Erica was saying made me remember what I was doing in Trail
- I know I posted on those "experiments" and one of the big reasons I
didn't want to move here was the no bathtub thing. *I just hate it*.
It's alright - I can sit in the shower and use the big ice cream buckets
to soak my feet and lower legs half way up, but there isn't really
enough room for my feet so have to see if I can't find some better
containers for this purpose.
Also when I was in Trail I found that getting into a warm tub - to
lessen the shock - and then just running the cold water was *very*
helpful and actually very pleasant. Then when I got tired of that I
could let some of the water drain and run the hot water again to warm
up. And so on. I could do that a couple of times.
However the heat got me - the loss of those beautiful trees that had
shaded the house so well in the summer was just too much. It was like an
oven. So I fled over here and found myself in a swamp. Ugh. And no
bathtub. The shower *is* built to take a wheelchair, though. That could
be quite helpful in future. However...
Anyway the study *report* is unsatisfying, to me, that's all. And I do
think hot pool is helpful for some people. It always exhausted me. Just
a plain ordinary cool water swimming pool with sauna would be nice.
The point is no one's picky - warm water is good therapy but we haven't
quite got the hang of the DD just yet and it makes me feel like tearing
my hair out to see generalizations about "patients with fibromyalgia".
I know this doesn't help. But sometimes identifying a problem or
problems does help.
So HTH anyway.
Love from Mrs Magoo