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Calling Scully And Mulder! A Conspiracy Here?

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Ilif

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Nov 5, 2009, 3:19:51 AM11/5/09
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I usually have a Rx for 532 hydromorphone pills filled once each month
at Safeway's pharmacy, but this month, there wasn't any to get! The
pharmacist called every other local store as well as the distributor,
but hydromorphone is as scarce as hen's teeth. This leaves me with
nothing to take for the pain I have from the fibro as well as the
chronic headaches I've been getting since forever; other drugs haven't
helped nearly as much...

Now, I've come across an article on the 'Net that said that there was
knowledges as far back as *March* that there were going to be
shortages of oxycodone (mostly) and possibly hydromorphone as well.
March..?
Did the drug companies know a lot of people dependant upon
hydromorphone was gonna get badly screwed? And coincidentally (?), my
health care company sent me a letter saying they were going to stop
paying for hydromorphone at the end of December. It was just a funny
coincidence, right?

Maybe it's just the pain making me paranoid, but I get the feeling
that all of this was somehow planned but the little bit I can find on
this situation seems to indicate that there's some funny politics
going on in the FDA. Does anyone here know what's happening on the
hydromorphone front? Is there a decent substitute? Are aliens
involved?-- okay, forget this last one. :-)

Ron

Michael B

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Nov 5, 2009, 4:45:59 AM11/5/09
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It's a contrived shortage, and others will be finding out about it as
they do their refills, but you can make your own. Start getting your
instructions from
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090417084002.htm
Next clues will be at lowdosenaltrexone.org

Michael B

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:00:04 AM11/5/09
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Regarding the shortage, a bit of awareness of the shortage.
Ahh, but by November there was supposed to be a substiture
that would be suitable.
http://www.paineducators.org/blogs/default.aspx?id=398&blogid=146

On Nov 5, 4:45 am, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> It's a contrived shortage, and others will be finding out about it as
> they do their refills, but you can make your own. Start getting your

> instructions fromhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090417084002.htm

Ilif

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Nov 5, 2009, 7:25:30 PM11/5/09
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Michael B wrote:
> Regarding the shortage, a bit of awareness of the shortage.
> Ahh, but by November there was supposed to be a substiture
> that would be suitable.
> http://www.paineducators.org/blogs/default.aspx?id=398&blogid=146
>
> On Nov 5, 4:45 am, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > It's a contrived shortage, and others will be finding out about it as
> > they do their refills, but you can make your own. Start getting your
> > instructions fromhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090417084002.htm
> > Next clues will be at lowdosenaltrexone.org
> >
> > On Nov 5, 3:19 am, Ilif <r...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote:
> >

Substitute? Sounds like a good idea, but if there was one-- and it
doesn't look like there's going to be any immediate relief from this
hydromorphone shortage-- then there would have been a good alternative
to hydromorphone to take in the first place. I'm stuck taking morphine
which has never really worked for me in the first place.... :-(

Ron

Michael B

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:47:30 PM11/5/09
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Get your body to make the endorphins, that serve as its natural
morhine.
In 1985, Dr Bihari found that the drug addicts were only making
a fourth of the endorphins that the "normal" population makes.
So they were self-medicating.
And the low dose Naltrexone is the path toward greater endorphin
production.

Ilif

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:23:45 AM11/7/09
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Michael B wrote:
> Get your body to make the endorphins, that serve as its natural
> morhine.
> In 1985, Dr Bihari found that the drug addicts were only making
> a fourth of the endorphins that the "normal" population makes.
> So they were self-medicating.
> And the low dose Naltrexone is the path toward greater endorphin
> production.

When I was younger, I went to a guy who I found out was a former
president of the American Hypnosis Association. He put me so deep
under hypnosis that he could hold my hand low over a burning candle
for several minutes and not cause any burns, or any kind of damage
whatsoever. He was an extremely good hypnotherapist; he got rid of my
headaches for many years before fibro started them to come back and
worse than ever before. Sigh....

Ron

Michael B

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:57:39 AM11/7/09
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It was not a very good test of the product, but it was okay as a
pilot study.
10 fibromyalgia sufferers were single-blind studied, 6 of them got
considerable relief from their fibromyalgia with low dose Naltrexone.
Statistically, the whole thing could be accounted for by chance
variation. But they were evaluating their pain level in a little
computer,
and they didn't know when they were getting drug or placebo.

Michael B

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Nov 7, 2009, 7:04:41 AM11/7/09
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The point at the base of the skull is a designated acupressure
point for headaches, as well as designated tender-point for FMS.
I can make a tension headache go away in three minutes.

You might want to try a couple of tennis balls in a sock, tie it off,
and lay on it so the tennis balls are right there, both sides. If it's
too much, have a pillow behind the head.
Or take a couple of old socks, put in about 2 1/2 inches of rice,
tie them off tightly, cut off the extra, put them in another sock,
tie it off, and be able to warm it up in the microwave oven.

On Nov 7, 4:23 am, Ilif <r...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote:

Ilif

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:49:13 PM11/7/09
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Michael B wrote:
> The point at the base of the skull is a designated acupressure
> point for headaches, as well as designated tender-point for FMS.
> I can make a tension headache go away in three minutes.
>
> You might want to try a couple of tennis balls in a sock, tie it off,
> and lay on it so the tennis balls are right there, both sides. If it's
> too much, have a pillow behind the head.
> Or take a couple of old socks, put in about 2 1/2 inches of rice,
> tie them off tightly, cut off the extra, put them in another sock,
> tie it off, and be able to warm it up in the microwave oven.

Gee, now that I think about it, I ad *two* head accidents as a child;
it's any wonder I still have half a brain left. <g>

Thanks for the advice; 'much appreciated. But the headaches are the
chronic kind-- the fibro has just made them worse and harder to
control as my pain levels are pretty high in general. I was taught
that tennis ball trick in a pain management class I had taken a while
back. The ironic thing is that the balls made the headache worse...

The two things I thought about and want to try, botox and
biofeedback-- I hear that botox injections unless done precisely and
correctly, can cause problems all on its own nor will the insurance
cover it-- while biofeedback is much safer, the insurance doesn't
cover that either which is kinda silly since they *do* cover
accupuncture. Go figure...

Ron


Michael B

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:43:56 PM11/8/09
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Biofeedback is more effective against migraines.
Simple temperature probe on your wrist. When you learn
to warm your wrist, you are also modifying some of the
vessels associated with the migraine.
Electronic thermometers are less than $10 nowadays,
need to tape the probe to the inner portion of the wrist.

Time for some acupuncture? Several well-defined points.

Ilif

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:03:56 AM11/14/09
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Biofeedback isn't as easy as strapping on a piece of technology and
five minutes later, voila! I tried to learn theta brainwave control
using a $1,000 biofeedback device and after many, many, many months I
only managed to get five minutes of sustained theta. Dropping one's
body temperature is no easier if one is only on their own. All
biofeedback, even the simplest, requires training by someone certified
in the field or it all becomes a waste of time. :-)

Ron

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