short pants and OSHA?
ParrotMedic
tossing around the idea of adding BDU shorts to our summer uniform.
However...a medic from another service recently told us that OSHA said that
EMTs wearing shorts was a no-no due to blood borne pathogen worries.
Anyone have any experience in this matter?
Kurt Ullman
"ParrotMedic" <med...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Personally I would go the source and not worry about what someone here may
(or more
importantly may THINK they) know.
Indiana Occupational Safety & Health
Administration: (317) 232-2693
Carey Gregory
>...a medic from another service recently told us that OSHA said that
>EMTs wearing shorts was a no-no due to blood borne pathogen worries.
If I had a dime for every OSHA "expert" I've encountered who didn't
know what the hell they were talking about, I'd be the richest man on
earth. Suggest you ignore the "experts" and ask OSHA.
Dave Hinz
: "ParrotMedic" <med...@nospam.com> wrote:
Agreed. Common sense & logic would say "How are legs different
than, say, exposed arms", but this is definately one to check with
the source on.
Dave Hinz
ja...@noemailforme.net
okay to wear BDU shorts. And, wouldn't that help reduce the risk of
heat exhaustion/stroke on the job?
People often say "OSHA says this" or "OSHA says that", but they can
rarely seem to know where the regulation is written. I'd be interested
in seeing this one in writing.
ja...@noemailforme.net
okay to wear BDU shorts. And, wouldn't shorts help reduce the risk of
heat exhaustion/stroke at our "workplace" on extremely hot days?
People often say "OSHA says this" or "OSHA says that", but they rarely
seem to know where the regulation is written. I'd be interested in
seeing this one in writing.
ParrotMedic
number. I'll let you know.
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ParrotMedic
regulation pertaining to EMS providers wearing shorts.
(Now I just have to convince the division VP that bearing my gawd awful legs
in public is a good thing.)
Kurt Ullman
another
kettle of fish altogether! (G&D&R)
Kurt Ullman
> Thanks guys for all the input, and big thanks to Kurt for the IOSHA phone
> number. I'll let you know.
>
>
For Access Indiana...
Brian Humphrey
> Just got off the phone with Indiana OSHA and found out that there is no
> regulation pertaining to EMS providers wearing shorts.
Ah, the answer we all expected! <VBG>
Now puhleeeeez do other EMS providers in your region a favor and go back to
the "expert" medic from the other service who told you otherwise and set the
record straight. You can certainly share that "one paramedic from a land far
away" feels that he or she will do harm to our vocation by continuing to
spread such balderdash.
Stay Safe!
Brian
Kurt Ullman
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I realize that as the official representative of your FD, you have to
sometimes temper
your responses. So, not being tied down by the need to maintain decorum, I
have
added some extra oomph to your suggestion.
> Now puhleeeeez do other EMS providers in your region a favor and go back
to
> the "expert" medic from the other service who told you otherwise, *SLAP
HIM OR
HER SILLY* and set the record straight. You can certainly share that "one
paramedic from a land far
> away" feels that he or she will do harm to our vocation by continuing to
> spread such balderdash.
Thanks for allow me to vent... (g).
Kurt Ullman
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ParrotMedic
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> > Now puhleeeeez do other EMS providers in your region a favor and go back
> to
> > the "expert" medic from the other service who told you otherwise, *SLAP
> HIM OR
> HER SILLY* and set the record straight. You can certainly share that "one
> paramedic from a land far
> > away" feels that he or she will do harm to our vocation by continuing to
> > spread such balderdash.
Hmmm...taking this advice under serious consideration. May have to stand in
line though. LOL
ParrotMedic
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to
> the "expert" medic from the other service who told you otherwise and set
the
> record straight. You can certainly share that "one paramedic from a land
far
> away" feels that he or she will do harm to our vocation by continuing to
> spread such balderdash.
I'll do just that Brian. You're right. We need fewer "experts" around
here.
Kevin "No Relation" Humphrey
Mark Gaines
bike cops can wear shorts when we can't?
--
Mark Gaines MS BSN RN RRT EMT-B
Respiratory Nurse
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<http://home.earthlink.net/~dansegypsy/index.html>
Jim Witteveen
heck are BDUs and thirdly we should all practice in the nude
, weather permitting. :>) .....of course being a Canuck
that would amount to 2 or 3 days a year.
--
Regards JRW
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Mark Gaines
in theory. BDU is an army term for battle dress uniform.
OSHA makes and enforces (in theory) safety rules in the workplace. Of late
they have gone easy on many employers......
Rick Vomacka
employer must define/provide/teach a way for the employee to do something so
that they don't get hurt/sick/etc ... they'll say that an open stairwell
(for example) has to be marked with highly visible high contrast colors, but
not say that it has to be black and yellow striped, etc ....
If you can wear shorts without kneeling in pools of blood with knees that
have open wounds/sores through which the blood can enter, ..... you're safe
and OSHA is happy. Remember, you can soak your bare hands in buckets of
blood all day long as long as none of it can penetrate your skin, and still
be quite comfortably legal with OSHA. It is the injury they target, not
specifically the remedy.
--
Rick Vomacka
Brimfield, OH
Brian Humphrey
> OSHA does not...
Rick, will you *stop* making sense! People here love to assume things
without ever going to the source. You're going to ruin all their fun!!
Matthew Poole
Assumption is not only the mother of all fuckups, it is also a
time-honoured usenet tradition, along with rumour, gossip and
speculation.
Rick's post hit a new low, with its insinuation that people should
actually do research before posting. I am personally deeply hurt by
this scandalous desire to see facts, and I feel that Rick should be
kill-filed by all.
</TONGUE-IN-CHEEK>
--
Matthew Poole Auckland, New Zealand
"Veni, vidi, velcro...
I came, I saw, I stuck around"
My real e-mail is mattATp00leDOTnet
Scott Taylor
barrier. If you're kneeling in blood and have open sores on your
knees, you'd better have latex long johns on.
Scott Taylor
Bainbridge Island, WA
Midnight Medic
Assume == I think we all know this one
Smile....its only life ;)
ParrotMedic
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> In article <ZDYa7.2608$sB5.78...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>, "Brian
Humphrey" <beh...@lafd.lacity.org> wrote:
> > "Rick Vomacka" <rickv...@earthlink.net> wrote...
> Assumption is not only the mother of all fuckups, it is also a
> time-honoured usenet tradition, along with rumour, gossip and
> speculation.
> Rick's post hit a new low, with its insinuation that people should
> actually do research before posting.
...And sometimes people use this ng for information sharing and (God forbid)
ask a reasonable question of the most knowledgeable people on EMS related
subjects in the world...the folks who actually do the job everyday.
Rick Vomacka
been the summer heat!
Back to the fray!
Mark
writer for our dept. When we added a bike unit earlier this summer, I amended
the policy to state EMT shorts were OK only if staffing a bike unit.
Mark
VAUGHN513
(seems to be a reasonable request) but we can wear them on Medical calls as
long as they are decent and not too short. We have this policy so we can stay
cool on long calls and standby's
ParrotMedic
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That's what we would like to do. BDU shorts add uniformity as well. As far
as MVCs, we (usually) wear turnout gear anyway.
charles krin
wrote:
>Definition - Expert == A drip under pressure.
you forgot "more than 50 miles from home with a new breifcase...and no
spouse around.:"
> Assume == I think we all know this one
>
>Smile....its only life ;)
>
country doc in louisiana
(no fancy sayings right now)