Re: [CFS-L] Marc: Ampligen totally tanked? Why?
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks
> Why have you been against it? In specifics, please.
It is - like most issues in the CFS community - quackery. This
XMRV is quackery too - one of the people that has to confirm
the XMRV findings, Carl Gottfries, wrote a paper with a CFS
quack called Vera Stejskal in the JCFS,
https://melisadiagnostics.com/pdf/cfs_nickel.pdf
The logo of this site is a Solar Eclipse - and a Solar Eclipse
encodes for Mercury and refers to the healing of the Dead Dog
Orthos (Satan).
These things address Mercury and are invented by Freemasons.
All it takes is to see the trick - that is: to see Mercury - to
see Hermetic meanings carefully hidden behind the material
meanings we all do observe. The relation between the material
world and the Hermetic world is alchemy - so if you want to
understand things like these, you must be aware what alchemy
is - and alchemy is based on astrology. The bottom line is that
most issues in the CFS community are in fact about astrology
(Mercury being both a planet and a stellar constellation called
Canis Major).
Hemispherx is an anagram of 'Hermes Phix' - where Hermes is the
Freemason Deity Mercury and Phix is the real name of the Sphinx
that can be found in front of most Freemason temples. There is a
similar game concerning 'Ampligen' itself and there is a Chinese
connection concerning Ampligen most PWCs are unaware of. It is
a trick, it isn't science (it is 'signs' instead).
If you want to see the Hermetic world yourself (it is not a nice
world since it is about Satan), you must read '1984' by Orwell
and buy the 'Twin Peaks' and 'The Prisoner' DVDs. This is what
I did to understand what is going on here. Never mind the story
(the story is not important), watch the situation and observe what
can be seen on the background.
An example: this photograph is taken from Twin Peaks,
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/6856/sn/1847535855/name/IMG_2971.jpg
The trick is to understand that the three persons on the picture
are Herakles, Pan, and Mercury (left to right). However, the real
message is on the blackboard: if you watch this map of Twin Peaks
very carefully, you will see *Two Dogs* (this is the Dead Dog) in
a *Dog basket* (the town Twin Peaks). Twin Peaks (like 'The Prisoner',
and '1984' - but also 'The Matrix' and most Beatle songs) is about
the resurection of Satan.
The problem is that this story (it is the astrology of the Nordic
mythology of Ragnarok) is a *real story*. That is: if you look
around you carefully, you can actually *see* the story. And if you
explore your own thoughts, you will discover that you have been
thinking about this story for many years now and that you were
brainwashed by it since the day you were born.
In fact, this story is also present in the CFS community - and this
explains what is really going on. It is not CBT/psychiatry, it is
Freemasonry/Theosophy. It is not something new, part of it is 4500
years old and was invented by the priests of ancient Egypt to
manipulate and rule people. It was updated by Freemasons since the
Enlightenment (the Enlightenment refers to Mercury) and most CFS-
quacks refer to it to brainwash their victims.
Once you see the tricks, the brainwashing will be over. Then, you
will see the real world.
Part of it (there is more to it and this page is to be updated) is
at,
http://www.me-net.combidom.com/meweb/web4.10.htm
Marc Fluks
Anita Haviland
I have asked you twice now to give me specific reasons why you are against Ampligen.
The first time you sent financial information, which is not an answer.
The second time you sent inconsequential material, maligning the name of the company, from your web site. That wasn't an answer either.
I was expecting some medical information, but found you could not answer my question, so I can't accept your opinion on Ampligen.
Your opinion on XMRV seems tied up in the same arguement you use about Ampligen. I'm sorry.
It must be hard to have your life wrecked by CFS when you had a PhD in astrophysics. We've all suffered losses. I'm certain that this really contributed to my bipolar disease, and I know it is why I had to drop out of graduate school. XMRV seems to correlate with breast cancer; I've had that bilaterally.
Anita
I am 23 years and counting.
.
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From: Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks <fl...@COMBIDOM.COM>
To: CF...@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:59:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CFS-L] Marc: Ampligen totally tanked? Why?
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks
> I was expecting some medical information, but found you could not
> answer my question, so I can't accept your opinion on Ampligen.
There is no medical information about Ampligen. There is no medical
info about most issues that are so popular in the CFS community.
These things are illusions created by evil people. This is what
is wrong. The *most popular* CFS doctors are in fact our enemies
- they never allow their patients to be cured.
> It must be hard to have your life wrecked by CFS when you had a
> PhD in astrophysics.
Well, I am doing fine now. Last month, I felt healthy for 3 days
(in april I even felt healthy for 10 days). Several times a week
I feel healthy for a couple of hours. I have relapses that take
just a few seconds.
It is not nice to see how the CFS community, how patients and
CFS itself are harmed by quacks. I can see most Freemason codes
now so I know what is wrong with the things that are so popular
among most patients. I can see their ideas although they themselves
are unaware of their ideas - just becaquse I am aware of the story.
Most of them will be destroyed by their ideas because this is part
of the story and they refuse to see what is going on. Most patient
organizations are aware of what is going but they don't say
anything or even assist quacks.
Yesterday, BBC Entertainment broadcasted a 'Doctor Who' episode
on Ragnarok (doomsday in Nordic mythology/astrology),
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/doomsday.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_(Doctor_Who)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarok
Everything was there - the things most patients cannot see. The
Solar eclipse was there, the Dogs were there, the end of time
was there - and, of course, a new beginning.
It was also clear *why* a 'CFS thinktank' and a 'European CFS
organization' was started in Norway and *why* 'XMRV' is to be
'confirmed' in Sweden' - Dr. Who being Mercury...
Marc Fluks
Anita Haviland
I was where you are until I started taking amino acid supplements. They do not cure, but they do feed our dysfunctional mitochondria exactly what they need in the form they need them.
Knowing there is no cure as yet, I have concentrated on doing what I could do, knowing that if they did not help me feel better over time, I could always stop them.
In November 1987, I asked about taking supplements and what people were taking. One person whom I've know via this list since almost the inception of the list suggested L-Carnitine, but said that the Acetyl-L Carnitine would get into our metabolism more efficiently. However, it has to be taken three times daily for 60 days without interruption to get it working. That had me feeling better over the two months. To that I added CoQ10. Those two had me feeling pretty good after 20+ years of being flat on the couch!
We have a health food store locally where there are some people very knowledgeable about supplements. I asked ands started reading labels. I added D-Ribose next; that's a sugar in the form that goes right into the mitochondria. that one helped immediately! However, it does tend to cause diarrhea if taken in bunches, so I count out my daily dose and take it gradually throughout the day. A side effect is that it lowered my blood pressure so that 2 weeks after I started it, my MD didn't raise my dose of blood pressure medicine!
The next one I added was Quercetin. That aids brain function. I am now doing some professional book editing, and I've started writing a series of children's books, the first three of which are in production now, i.e. being worked upon, not quite out and selling.
When I know we are going to be busy in days ahead, I also take Creatine Mono-hydrate. It helps with physical exercise, such as walking, sitting on a boat when I have to constantly unconsciously adjust to the wave motion of the boat.
All of these add up to me being able to walk a mile and a half with little rebound trouble. I may feel tired the day after, but I recover over the next couple of days. It is incredible. I used to be flat on my back after any exercise, including riding in a car.
So, the doses I am taking of these are:
Acetyl-L Carnitine: 1500 mg 3 times daily
CoQ10: 1200 mg 3 times daily
Quercetin: 1500 mg 3 times daily
D-Ribose 9 g daily, 1500 at a time during the day until 5:pm. If I take it later, it tends to keep me awake. It is a high dose, but i read on the Internet in several places that it not only helps with metabolic problems, but some physicians are even using it to lower blood pressure and help cardiac patients.
Essential CreatineMonohydrate: I follow the regimen in advance when I suspect that I'm goinjg to need it. I use it during the summer especially because of the frequent boat rides and picnics. During the winter, I tend to exercise in short bursts, shoveling the door steps and walkways for us and the two dogs.
I have experienced two setbacks, but they were because I am bipolar and can overdo. I recently walked myself into a relapse, but it was a relatively short one. I think I am past it now. The other more serious one was that when i was only on Acetyl-L Carnitine and CoQ10, I had a walk with my husband one day and collapsed the next day. I ended in the hospital over night. My doctor ran tests, and she concluded after many cardiac tests, that I had exhausted my heart as well as my other muscles. I am very careful now, knowing that this can happen!
Now I can work till about 3 pm editing with a short break for lunch. I can walk a mile, but not daily. I am right now running our wood furnace, handling many pounds of wood each time I fill it up, about 3 times daily. I will be so thankful when my husband gets home this afternoon!
I agree that there are Free Masons with chapters all over the world. But I do see their positive works, such as the Shriner's Hospital for Burns here in the US. I realize there is a lot of controversy about them, but it is not part of my life.
The politics of CFS here in the US is changing with the XMRV connection. That was discovered by a private foundation, not by our prejudiced, politicized governmental agencies, so I do see that as real.
The CDC, NIH and AMA have tried to keep this as a disease of hysterical women, conveniently forgetting about the men who have it and trying to affect research with their skewed definition of the disease. Simon Wessley, a British psychiatrist was in the midst of this, wasn't he? Notice, I don't have a "Dr." before his name. In my mind it was forfeit when he argued against the reality of CFS.
I've seen and enjoyed Dr. Who, but he's not part of this as far as I can see. He is an artifact of someone's imagination, not a politically active person in this dialogue. The Zodiac? I've regained as much as I have despite being a Virgo. The only effect the heavens have is that a full moon makes me wakeful, but that again is part of bipolar disease. My disease permeates my life so deeply that I am religious about taking my meds. It is a matter of not wanting hurt my family and friends.
Evil people? I see them as uneducated louts, who unfortunately have risen beyond their talents. But I disagree with you about CFS doctors. I think they are truly doing their best, but they are waging a battle against a disease that has yet to be fully defined. XMRV is a great leap forward for us. Many of the research physicians were certain we had a retrovirus years ago which is why in the early 1960s CFS was called "AIDS Minor." However, research monies were redirected for other research because the people in charge were still calling this an hysteria, a political mess. XMRV is real. It's a good discovery.
I think I've answered you quite fully.
All I can say is to ask you to please try the supplements. They are a fantastic help, but you have to take them to get the benefit.
I have work to do now.
Be of good cheer,
Anita
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From: Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks <fl...@COMBIDOM.COM>
To: CF...@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 6:07:08 AM
Subject: Re: [CFS-L] Marc: Ampligen totally tanked? Why?
Anita Haviland <havila...@YAHOO.COM>,
It was also clear *why* a 'CFSthinktank' and a 'European CFS
Bobbie Sellers
> Anita Haviland <havila...@YAHOO.COM>,
>> I was expecting some medical information, but found you could not
>> answer my question, so I can't accept your opinion on Ampligen.
>
> There is no medical information about Ampligen. There is no medical
> info about most issues that are so popular in the CFS community.
trials. That is why the FDA is against its licensing
> These things are illusions created by evil people. This is what
> is wrong. The *most popular* CFS doctors are in fact our enemies
> - they never allow their patients to be cured.
That is your opinion Marc. My doctors would do anything I
could afford and some things I really could not afford in my search
for a cause of my cfids.
>
>> It must be hard to have your life wrecked by CFS when you had a
>> PhD in astrophysics.
>
> Well, I am doing fine now. Last month, I felt healthy for 3 days
> (in april I even felt healthy for 10 days). Several times a week
> I feel healthy for a couple of hours. I have relapses that take
> just a few seconds.
>
> It is not nice to see how the CFS community, how patients and
> CFS itself are harmed by quacks. I can see most Freemason codes
> now so I know what is wrong with the things that are so popular
> among most patients. I can see their ideas although they themselves
> are unaware of their ideas - just becaquse I am aware of the story.
> Most of them will be destroyed by their ideas because this is part
> of the story and they refuse to see what is going on. Most patient
> organizations are aware of what is going but they don't say
> anything or even assist quacks.
What a shame you have been so hurt by the lack of treatment
as to adopt a conspiratorial view of life.
>
> Yesterday, BBC Entertainment broadcasted a 'Doctor Who' episode
> on Ragnarok (doomsday in Nordic mythology/astrology),
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/doomsday.shtml
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_(Doctor_Who)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarok
> Everything was there - the things most patients cannot see. The
> Solar eclipse was there, the Dogs were there, the end of time
> was there - and, of course, a new beginning.
> It was also clear *why* a 'CFS thinktank' and a 'European CFS
> organization' was started in Norway and *why* 'XMRV' is to be
> 'confirmed' in Sweden' - Dr. Who being Mercury...
>
>
> Marc Fluks
>
To work children's entertainment into your fantasies is
quite remarkable.
later
Bobbie Sellers/
Rita Joy
Thank you for the Supplements info. I am taking most of these, but I will
double-check the dosage with your regime, and I do know that it might take
2-3 months to kick in.
Thank you once again for your help. Now going to Research Ampligen again,
for myself. (but that is another day). Need sustenance.
How have you all fared on Gingko Biloba? If taken far too late in the day,
it also keeps me awake. I wish I had persevered with it. It might have
saved some of my sight, as after starting this 15- 18 years ago, my short
sight improved so much I did NOT REQUIRE Reading glasses. The
Optometrist/Optician, are extremely sceptical. How come I can read a VERY
LARGE SUNDAY NEWSPAPER WITH 10-12 Sections, and I do not need to resort to
Reading glasses, as I did before. I am the last person who would put my eyes
at risk, because of eye strain. Glaucoma creeps up on you. Don't forget,
do the "One eye seeing test" and then the other.
I started on Aspirin as a intermediate dose of an anti-inflammatory AND,
after learning it was beneficial for the efficacy of the cancer drugs = 300
mg 12 hours apart, ..., I stopped taking Ginkgo. Should have done the
research. I believed I was taking far too many blood-thinning analgesics.
If ME/CFS causes nerve damage, surely eye nerves are not excluded? I do not
have Diabetes.
Take care, all. More reading tomorrow, as now have 2 free days not going to
Hospitals miles away!! Sitting and reading on this thing is certainly
totally different to walking, trudging round large Hospitals, from one
Department to another, and endeavouring to retain one's dignity and having
to rely on notes to consult with EXPERTS. So much to do, and so little
energy, including NO CAR to use. Christmas? FORGETABOUTIT. !! Thank you for
Online shopping.
p.s. it is freezing in the UK. My skin temp is 93 F. degrees. True!!! MY
Oral temp is 102.1/2. Got an infection, and my muscles and tendons are so
inflamed!! Thought I had left this scenario far behind me!! Double dose of
Vitamin D?
The worst rainfall in November since Records began. Floods in the North of
England, knocked down bridges!! I am SO grateful I do not have a wet,
freezing house that I cannot return to. Take care all. Regards Rita U.K.
Maija Haavisto
> I wish I had persevered with it. It might havesaved some of my
Reading glasses.
I took ginkgo for my CFS/ME brainfog from 2004 to 2007. It was the very
first supplement I took that helped. My cognitive function had
deteriorated very badly, but ginkgo gave some of it back. It took about
five weeks to kick in, the longest of all things I've taken, but the
benefit was clear. The only problem was that I had to take it in a
liquid form three times a day and if I missed just a single dose, I was
back to a zombie. I didn't notice any stimulant or other effects
though. I took the last dose of the day at bedtime.
In 2007 I started piracetam, a nootropic (cognition enhancing)
medication which helped even more and I noticed I could stop taking the
ginkgo without the "zombie" feeling coming back. It was quite a relief,
because I was so tired of having to take the drops three times a day
(piracetam I take twice a day, but I can skip it for several days
before my cognitive function starts to get noticeably worse). Then in
early 2008 I started taking nimodipine, which almost immediately and
almost completely dealt with the brainfog. The effects still persist
even though I haven't taken it for over a year. I still take the
piracetam, because it helps with cognitive fatigability and verbal
function.
--
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`%-('`._/ ) _ of spelling mistakes. -"5 Suicide Notes" by Saracen Tate
`\ \ `'/ Maija Haavisto * @DiamonDie * http://www.fiikus.net
`.___.'mh My CFS/ME/FM book: http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com
KATHY DURKIN
What is low-dose naltrexone?
I worry about gingko biloba as friends who have worked in hospitals in ER's
have told me it's a problem for anyone who is seriously injured and is
bleeding or if one has to have surgery. It delays blood clotting time which
could be a serious problem, especially if one has to have emergency surgery
or has suffered a bleeding wound, or even if one needs nonemergency surgery;
one has to wait for its effects to wear off.
Kathy D.
Bobbie Sellers
> What is piracetam?
A drug that works on the brain to improve function in some people.
> What is low-dose naltrexone?
4.5 milligrams per day of naltrexone given around bedtime of this
drug helps some people with cfids/me. Use Google to search on LDN.
Regular naltrexone dose is 50 milligrams per day to suppress withdrawal
symptoms of some drugs.
I published the URL of the main pages of the LDN promoters yesterday.
>
> I worry about gingko biloba as friends who have worked in hospitals in
> ER's have told me it's a problem for anyone who is seriously injured
> and is bleeding or if one has to have surgery. It delays blood
> clotting time which could be a serious problem, especially if one has
> to have emergency surgery or has suffered a bleeding wound, or even if
> one needs nonemergency surgery; one has to wait for its effects to
> wear off.
>
> Kathy D.
Well I have never heard of a problem from proper doses of ginko
biloba but that
doesn't mean much. I could not afford this when I was interested a few
years
ago.
later
Bobbie Sellers
Maija Haavisto
Piracetam is a drug used in the treatment of cognitive and neurological
problems. It is Rx where I live, but in most countries it's available
OTC. Its mode of action is not well understood, but it works with
several different mechanisms, including improved circulation and
improved metabolism in the brain. It is not a stimulant. In studies it
has been shown to improve cognition in both healthy people and people
with various impairments (such as dyslexia or post-stroke issues). It
works for most people and another good thing is that it very rarely
causes any kind of side effects even in people who are sensitive to
medications. There are no drug interactions either. For me the primary
benefits have been improved verbal function (e.g. word recall) and
reduced cognitive fatigability.
There are many so-called nootropic (cognition enhancing) drugs, which
are not stimulants but improve brain function. They can be very helpful
for CFS/ME brainfog, but most doctors don't know about them. Luckily
many of them are OTC in many countries.
> What is low-dose naltrexone?
Low dose naltrexone is an immunostimulant therapy which utilizes a drug
called naltrexone. It is a very good treatment for many people with
CFS/ME, because it not only treats the symptoms, but the underlying
disease process. My CFS/ME used to be progressive, but after I started
LDN in March 2007 I've had no more progression. It has greatly helped
my fatigue, muscle weakness, chronic fever and chronic urticaria and
some other symptoms to a lesser extent. I don't really "crash" any more
(or nothing like I used to). It is also very effective in autoimmune
diseases, neurodegenerative diseases, HIV/AIDS and most cancers.
Obviously it doesn't help everyone, but at least half of people with
CFS/ME seem to benefit. Most tolerate it well and it's much safer than
most other immunostimulants (like Ampligen).
> I worry about gingko biloba as friends who have worked in hospitals
in ER's have told me it's a problem for anyone
> who is seriously injured and is bleeding or if one has to have
surgery. It delays blood clotting time which could be a
> serious problem, especially if one has to have emergency surgery or
has suffered a bleeding wound, or even if one
> needs nonemergency surgery; one has to wait for its effects to wear
off.
With all treatments the benefits have to be weighed against the risks
of the treatment. For example, my cognitive function used to be so
severely impaired by CFS/ME that it was actually getting dangerous,
because I could have seriously injured myself being in my "zombie"
state. And also, many people with CFS/ME are thought to be in a chronic
hypercoagulable state, which means our blood is too thick and clots too
much. That too poses a problem of getting blood clots, especially since
many of us are immobile or at least sedentary.
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks
> Knowing there is no cure as yet, I have concentrated on doing what I could
> do, knowing that if they did not help me feel better over time, I could
> always stop them.
No, you won't. It doesn't work that way.
These treatments are in fact Satanic rituals developed by Freemasons
and Scientologists. The problem is that our thoughts have a *different
meaning* (a Hermetic meaning that is hidden from and active in our mind).
As a consequence, our thoughts are about *different things* than we
assume they are.
This is how brainwashing works. This 'brain fog' patients report is not
a symptom of CFS, it is a symptom of brainwashing instead.
This meaning (that will make most people feel worse) is to be explored.
Since it usually is about Mercury (it might also address Herakles) and
since the trick (that is: the relation between the material world and
the Hermetic world) is *always* about Mercury, this is not very
difficult (I can see most relations within seconds).
However, the problem is that people are unaware of the fact that they
are brainwashed - they are convinced that the way they look at the world
and their ideas is 'normal' - while it is not.
-> The problem to solve is that our mind must tell us that our mind
doesn't work properly and that our ideas are wrong. But our mind
doesn't tell since there is something wrong with the mind itself.
All we can do is to doubt what is going on there and explore the
origin of our ideas. And then we will find Mercury since we are
brainwashed by evil people that adore Mercury.
> I've seen and enjoyed Dr. Who, but he's not part of this as far as I can
> see.
The story is (Dr. Who being Mercury). The Ragnarok scenario is *very
important* in our world (not just in the CFS community, the story is
*everywhere*). The Climate Change conference opened yesterday in
Copenhagen is also about Ragnarok - 'Climate Change' is the story
of Herakles, the Deity of the Climate and of Mankind itself (this is
the hidden reason why 'Mankind is changing the climate').
If you look around you, you will see the Solar Eclipse *everywhere*
(it is the logo of the Climate Change conference). Freemasons need
the Solar Eclipse to cure the Dead Dog (if you look around you, you
will see 2 dogs everywhere, an example: the Pepsi Cola logo is a Dead
Dog).
In the CFS community, both 'schizofrenia' and 'bipolar disorder' are
Dead Dogs. A Dead Dog is not an animal, it is the material and the
Hermetic meanings being separated like the two constellations dog in
the sky are separated by the Milky Way - and the Milky Way is to be
removed by a Solar Eclipse. It is a story, but it is a real story
- it is present *everywhere* in the world and it dominates our mind.
When the two dogs merge, there will be 1 dog with 2 heads. In Greek
mythology, this animal is called 'Orthos' (the 2 heads were separated
in the 10th labour of Herakles), in Christianity it is called Satan.
One dog (the small one) is called Horus (Apollo) and the other dog
(the big one) is called Thoth (Mercury/Hermes). In pop songs, TV
dramas and movies you will see both dogs and when they meet, you will
see Satan. This is how we are brainwashed.
An example: in the Matrix triology Apollo is the Oracle (refering to
the oracle of Apollo in Delphi) and Mercury is the Architect (the
creator of the universe). When they meet, the One (Mr Anderson)
realizes what is to be done and Ragnarok repeats itself. In the TV
series Twin Peaks, Apollo and Mercury are Gordon Cole and FBI agent
Cooper - when they meet, we see Satan emerging from a one-armed
man called Gerard (the Milky Way doesn't have 2 arms). Note that in
US space missions, there was a Mercury and an Apollo mission - there
also was a Gemini mission since Gemini is the constellation of alchemy
(it refers to Egypt and is the Chimera in the Sky, the mother of the
Dead Dog Orthos).
These are *codes* present in our world that must be explored to
understand the world itself - just like there are codes in the CFS
community and in our own mind to explore to understand what is going
on here. This is why there is a Mercury in Ampligen, the H2S-test,
the RNASE-L test, the omega-3 therapy, the lightning process, the
XMRV-virus and why the XMRV findings are to be validated in a Ragnarok-
country (and why one of the Swedish researchers - Gottfries - is a
CFS quack that works with Vera Stejskal, the inventor of the Melisa
test, a test to find Mercury in PWCs).
Marc Fluks
CB
Sat*nism (splatted to prevent people who shouldn't find their way to our
group) is not that powerful! Those who see Sat*nism in every corner and
in every institution only serve to inflate the egos of the very few
Sat*nists that are actually out there, and scare the rest of us, and in
the end, increase what little power and influence they do have.
Sat*anism is about power and control and you give them power and control
by succumbing to the paranoia that they are everywhere and they are
powerful. That's what they want you to think. That's how they want you
to be *brainwashed* to think!
Marc, what do you think about the possibility that you could be tested
for XMRV virus sometime in the future? What if you tested positive?
What if you were given anti-viral medication and it cured you?
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks wrote:
<snipped>
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks
> Marc, what do you think about the possibility that you could be
> tested for XMRV virus sometime in the future? What if you tested
> positive? What if you were given anti-viral medication and it cured
> you?
Again: it doesn't work that way.
These 'CFS tests' ain't real. There is no link between the test and
the test result. In fact, *buying* the test *is* the test - those
that buy the test will be 'tested' positive. It is not a real test
in a medical sense (a medical test where science is involved), it
is a ritual to see Mercury. CFS quackery is not about CFS at all,
not about medicine, and not about science. It is a story instead.
The story itself was invented in Egypt, 4500 years ago and it was
updated by Freemasons the past centuries.
An example: the H2S test. This test is about the main equation of
alchemy,
Sulphur + Mercury -> Metal
The Sulphur is present in H2S, and the Metal is in the story about
the test. The H2S test therefore tests for Mercury.
Those that buy the test in fact make a statement. The statement is:
'I cannot see the link between the material world and the Hermetic
world' (this is called 'schizophrenia' by quacks). Those that see
the link (they are called 'enlightened' by quacks - because the two
heads of Orthos have merged and the Dead Dog has awakened) just
won't buy the test because they realize that such tests ain't real.
The medicines don't work like ordinary medicines. They don't heal
your body, the heal the Dead Dog instead. They are supposed to heal
the schiziophrenia, to merge the two dogs - so the material world
and the Hermetic world will be integrated and the patient will be
enlightened. Unfortunately, if the alchemy is a success, there will
no longer be a difference between schizophrenia and enlightenment:
in fact, the patient has lost its mind. The patient will be dead or
insane. This is the process most of us are involved in...
It is in fact the Hermetic (hidden) story about reincarnation. Most
people think that reincarnation means that they will be born again
once they have died (this is the material meaning). But the Hermetic
meaning is very different: it is about body-snatching. A person will
lose its mind *before* he/she has died and another spirit will
reincarnate in the empty body. That spirit is a diseased Freemason
or Satan himself. (Well, this is the scenario anyway). This is why
Freemasons believe *why* our world is Hell and *why* we are not
allowed to escape ever.
So I won't buy the XMRV-test (I have never bought any CFS quack test
or CFS quack therapy). I was saved in a way because I am a materialist
myself. There were no Hermetic meanings in my head, the brainwashing
has failed although I was not aware of the Hermetic world either.
We tried to find what was going on in the CFS community after CFS
quacks in Belgium and The Netherlands killed hundreds of patients
(cancer patients, not PWCs) with a CFS medicine called Acclydine. And
then we found the above Freemason scenario... Next, we realized that
this scenario was not specific for the CFS community but that it is
*everywhere* in our world.
When it comes to XMRV: The WPI is a Freemason institute (founded by
people that own a golf resort (called 'The Resort at Red Hawk'), this
Whittemore girl is a yoga teacher at this golf resort - were 'yoga'
in fact is alchemy), the organizations that 'pay' for the XMRV
confirmation (ME research UK and the Irish ME Trust) are Freemason
organizations, and one of the persons that has to confirm the XMRV
'findings' (Gottfries) is a Freemason too. This must be in a Nordic
country because this is what the Ragnarok scenario demands.
Because of this, *everything* is just an illusion.
It just isn't real.
It is a story.
Marc Fluks
Bobbie Sellers
> CB <cathy...@NETSCAPE.NET>,
>> Marc, what do you think about the possibility that you could be
>> tested for XMRV virus sometime in the future? What if you tested
>> positive? What if you were given anti-viral medication and it cured
>> you?
>
> Again: it doesn't work that way.
>
> These 'CFS tests' ain't real. There is no link between the test and
> the test result. In fact, *buying* the test *is* the test - those
> that buy the test will be 'tested' positive. It is not a real test
> in a medical sense (a medical test where science is involved), it
> is a ritual to see Mercury. CFS quackery is not about CFS at all,
> not about medicine, and not about science. It is a story instead.
> The story itself was invented in Egypt, 4500 years ago and it was
> updated by Freemasons the past centuries.
Well then what is CFS/ME in your view?
Have you been deluded into believing that it is caused
by your mind?
That it does in fact not exist?
And if the test for Xeno-trophic Murine leukemia-Related
Virus is as you describe it then why do not 100% of the
people taking it show up as positive?
If it is as you posit it to be why do not more than 4% of
normal healthy controls have positive tests for XMRV?
[Big snip of the rest of your exposition]
later
Bobbie Sellers
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks
> Well then what is CFS/ME in your view?
CFS is a medical disease, not some magical Freemason quack scenario.
I don't know the nature of CFS (in my case, it might be chronic EBV).
> And if the test for Xeno-trophic Murine leukemia-Related
> Virus is as you describe it then why do not 100% of the
> people taking it show up as positive?
Because it is a trick ? Because the tests are made up ?
As I said before, CFS quack tests ain't real tests - all a CFS quack
has to do is to see Mercury to test a patient positive. The test is
in the mind of the quack or in the mind of the patient - it is *not*
a medical test.
Apparently, the XMRV propaganda wants us to believe that,
CFS is a myth or it is caused by XMRV
However, this 'all or nothing' scenario is false once the XMRV scenario
itself turns out to be a myth. In fact, this option is very dangerous
since it might be the end of CFS itself (that is: CFS will no longer be
a disease in the material world). This option therefore is an option
that is valid in the Hermetic world *only* (in fact, 'all or nothing'
refers to a world were we have to accept Mercury).
Please be aware that a virus is *not* always a *material virus* and that
the real name for CFS is 'PostViral Fatigue Syndrome' (PVFS). To quacks/
Freemasons the Hermetic meaning of a virus is a *rumour*, an *idea* that
is *spreading among the population*. To them, PVFS/CFS is suffering from
*fatigue following accepting an idea* (to real doctors/psychiatrists this
is the same thing as suffering from *stress*). This explains the title of
the bible of quackery,
Orthomolecular Psychiatry: Treatment of Schizophrenia
http://www.amazon.com/Orthomolecular-Psychiatry-Schizophrenia-David-Hawkins/dp/0716708981
Note that in the title, 'orthomolecular' refers to the 'alchemy of Orthos'
(Orthos being the Dead Dog) and that 'Schizophrenia' refers to 'the
separation of the two dogs' (the two meanings, the two worlds corresponding
to two heads: the material one and the Hermetic one). There are *two*
meanings and our thoughts have a different meaning (a Hermetic one) than
the meaning (the material one) we think we have.
So if a quack doctor refers to a virus, he/she is not refering to the virus
identified in biological science. It is something very different. But most
of us cannot see because most of us are unaware of Hermetic meanings. We
think that the things we see just have one meaning but they do not.
There are *two*.
Marc Fluks
Bobbie Sellers
> Bobbie Sellers <bl...@SFO.COM> asked,
>> Well then what is CFS/ME in your view?
>
> CFS is a medical disease, not some magical Freemason quack scenario.
> I don't know the nature of CFS (in my case, it might be chronic EBV).
>
>> And if the test for Xeno-trophic Murine leukemia-Related
>> Virus is as you describe it then why do not 100% of the
>> people taking it show up as positive?
>
> Because it is a trick ? Because the tests are made up ?
> As I said before, CFS quack tests ain't real tests - all a CFS quack
> has to do is to see Mercury to test a patient positive. The test is
> in the mind of the quack or in the mind of the patient - it is *not*
> a medical test.
pro or con. Have you ever even worked in a clinical laboratory, done
a blood count or even venipuncture? Ever run a Darkfield or discriminated
the spots of measles from the coppery rash of syphilis?
I had the good fortune to be stationed at a ward next to a
dermatologists
office and as a nurse was allowed full access to the texts with
illustrations.
(Really disgusting illustrations but strangely none of the nasty cop shows
with disgusting corpses touch me the way they do my florist friend."
Later in life I was able to spot those indications of particular
illness and
triage patients to the treatment facilities.
>
> Apparently, the XMRV propaganda wants us to believe that,
> CFS is a myth or it is caused by XMRV
> However, this 'all or nothing' scenario is false once the XMRV scenario
> itself turns out to be a myth. In fact, this option is very dangerous
> since it might be the end of CFS itself (that is: CFS will no longer be
> a disease in the material world). This option therefore is an option
> that is valid in the Hermetic world *only* (in fact, 'all or nothing'
> refers to a world were we have to accept Mercury).
/ I strangely agree that XMRV is not the only possible cause
for the real medical condition cfids/me/PVFS or more exactly
Post-Virual Refractory Fatigue Syndrome however the meme has
been injected into the consciousness that PVRFS (what a mouthful)
is a real disease with a viral cause. Doctors may begin to pay
more attention to the diagnosis of their patients and a fraction of
the public may respond more sympathetically.
/
>
> Please be aware that a virus is *not* always a *material virus* and that
> the real name for CFS is 'PostViral Fatigue Syndrome' (PVFS). To quacks/
> Freemasons the Hermetic meaning of a virus is a *rumour*, an *idea* that
> is *spreading among the population*. To them, PVFS/CFS is suffering from
> *fatigue following accepting an idea* (to real doctors/psychiatrists
> this
> is the same thing as suffering from *stress*). This explains the
> title of
> the bible of quackery,
> Orthomolecular Psychiatry: Treatment of Schizophrenia
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Orthomolecular-Psychiatry-Schizophrenia-David-Hawkins/dp/0716708981
>
> Note that in the title, 'orthomolecular' refers to the 'alchemy of
> Orthos'
Actually orthomolecular refers to correcting (ortho meaning straight
as in
Orthopedics) the chemistry of the brain that leads to schizophrenia
which is a disconnect not between heads or dogs but between the feelings
or emotions
and the intellect.
And the mime has entered the general consciousness that "schizophrenia"
is cognate with multiple personality disorder which is actually something
completely different.
> (Orthos being the Dead Dog) and that 'Schizophrenia' refers to 'the
> separation of the two dogs' (the two meanings, the two worlds
> corresponding
> to two heads: the material one and the Hermetic one). There are *two*
> meanings and our thoughts have a different meaning (a Hermetic one) than
> the meaning (the material one) we think we have.
And a thought that imbeds itself into one's mind or the minds of the
multitude is a "meme" not a virus though the science fiction writer,
William Burroughs, spoke of such as viruses, at times.
>
> So if a quack doctor refers to a virus, he/she is not refering to the
> virus
> identified in biological science. It is something very different. But
> most
> of us cannot see because most of us are unaware of Hermetic meanings. We
> think that the things we see just have one meaning but they do not.
>
> There are *two*.
>
>
> Marc Fluks
>
And if the doctor is *not* a quack and speaks of viruses such as
those that
cause the common cold aka Rhynitis, various species of Influenza and
HIV-AIDS he is speaking of real microscopic bits of DNA-RNA code that
invade the cells and cause illness. The same goes for the physicians that
have evaluated the XMRV and the single lab that does the test.
Of course infection with the XMRV virus may be only a symptom of
PVRFS caused by the weakening of the immune system.
later
Bobbie Sellers
Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks
> Note that in the title, 'orthomolecular' refers to the 'alchemy of Orthos'
Bobbie Sellers <bl...@SFO.COM>,
> Actually orthomolecular refers to correcting (ortho meaning straight as in
> Orthopedics) the chemistry of the brain that leads to schizophrenia
> which is a disconnect not between heads or dogs but between the
> feelings or emotions and the intellect.
You are now refering to the material world - not to the Hermetic world (95%
of people cannot see the Hermetic world). In order to understand what is
going on you must see the Hermetic world first and then you will see how
quacks kill their patients. In fact the future of PWCs that visit quacks
is very grim: they will not recover ever (they are not allowed to recover
since they are supposed to live in Hell forever) - their situation will
deteriorate till the end. In order to see the Hermetic meanings of things,
you must learn how to look at things differently. You must understand how
Hermetic tricks work.
An example: in the material world, the 'how' question is all their is
(there ain't 'why' questions). In the Hermetic world, the 'why' question is
important (and there are no 'how' questions). These 'why' questions refer
to occult sources (astrology, mythology, alchemy).
An illustration: we are supposed to believe that in the CFS community, a
Nightingale is important. In the material world, the 'how' question tells
that this is because of Florence Nightingale.
However, in the Hermetic world, the 'why' question tells that this is
because a nightingale is important in Ovid's story about Philomela, Procne,
and Tereus - were Philomela (Nightingale, violin, guitar) was changed into
a nightingale.
There is a Beatle song about this: 'While my guitar gently weeps'. If you
listen to this song, you will hear that the guitar is weeping like a
nightingale - because both a guitar and a nightingale are called 'Philomela'.
It is a story about murder, rape and cannibalism - and this is the real
reason *why* a nightingale is so important in the CFS community (it tells
what kind of things CFS quacks are doing to us to have Orthos/Satan
reincarnated in our body).
BTW: May 12 is not just the birthday of Florence Nightingale, it is also
the *Day of Mercury* in the Gregorian calendar - our calendar. In the
Julian calendar of ancient Rome it was on May 15,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercuralia
Since both calendars are shifting, the day they are calibrated is very
important - so there are more solutions: May 9 (Day of Europe) and April
30 (Walpurgis Night) also refer to the Day of Mercury.
So 'this world CFS day' is in fact about Mercury. 'ME' refers to the
Babylonian Deity 'Me' that was called 'Maat' in Egypt - the wife of the
Egyptian Mercury, Thoth...
Mercury is *everywhere*.
Marc Fluks
Mandi Smallhorne
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Mercury is *everywhere*.
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> Please, please stop this.
It will never stop - it will go on *forever*... and we are *not allowed*
to recover *ever*.
So what is wrong with this XMRV ?
* I recently said that there is something Mercurial going on here.
'XMRV' says that the characters 'M' 'R', and 'V' are to deleted
(that is: 'X') in the Latin name for Mercury ('Mercvrivs', since
the 'u' is written 'v' in Latin), and that the 'v' in the result is
written in English again ('v' -> 'u') - the result being 'ercuis',
and this is an anagram for,
is cure
So the statement in XMRV is that Mercury is a cure (Mercury is the
Deity of Quackery). This is trivial, but most patients will not see
it - they will see something *very different*. They think that it
is about medicine, a virus and a cure for CFS. No - it just is an
evil trick of CFS quacks, Mercury being the trickster.
* Next, the XMRV finding are to be confirmed by the Swedish CFS quack
Gottfries with a method, called 'Gefrix', to cure CFS and FM,
http://www.gottfriesclinic.com
http://www.gefrix.com
http://www.gefrix.se
http://www.gefrix.us
In fact, this is the same trick as we see above. 'Gefrix' is a command
that states that the characters 'Gefri' are to be deleted (that is:
'X') in 'Gottfries'. The result, 'otts' is an anagram of,
stot
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stot
On this URL it says,
Stot: an inferior horse
Well, in Freemason satanism, the inferior horse is called 'Unicorn'
and it refers to the constellation Monoceros,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoceros
This is a very important constellation in the Milky Way since it
*separates* the two constellations Dog in the sky - and *everything*
in Freemasonry is about *merging* the two dogs so Satan (Orthos)
will be awakened. This is why the Unicorn is to be broken in occult
stories.
Note that the 'third eye' refers to the Rosette nebulae in Monoceros
and that the Stone of Rosette is about the translation of Egyptian
texts,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosette_Nebula
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone
The Unicorn also is a translation, a bridge (called Hermeneus) between
the material and the Hermetic world (that is: the two dogs). The eyes
of the Dead Dog itself are Sirius (in the Big Dog) and Gomeisa (in the
Small Dog). This explains the figure at,
http://www.me-net.combidom.com/meweb/web4.10.htm#constellations
This figure was copied from an occult web page.
* Gottfries is to confirm that XMRV causes CFS and he was 'asked' to
do so by ME Reseach UK. Another name for this quack organization is
'Merge' and its magazine is called 'Breakthrough',
http://www.meresearch.org.uk/information/breakthrough/index.html
'Merge' refers to the two dogs to be *merged* and 'Breakthrough' says
that the Unicorn (or the Milky Way itself) is to be *broken*. *It is
the same scenario* as the one of the Gottfries clinic.
* The above website gefrix.us is owned by Rudolf Helmut Schaffrath (CEO
Gefrix), co-owner of 'Vita Nova Ventures',
http://www.robtex.com/dns/gefrix.us.html#whois
http://www.ratsit.se/5567218549-Gefrix_Therapeutics_AB
http://www.privataaffarer.se/aktier/VNV
Where 'Vita Nova' is 'New Life'. This refers to reincarnation (in the
CFS community, this is called 'Anti-aging' - most CFS quacks are 'well
known' experts in 'anti-aging' and 'schizophrenia').
Note that the above scenario is not about science (it is about alchemy).
Note that the above scenario is not about medicine (it is about quackery).
Note that the above scenario is not about a disease (it is about fad
diseases).
Note that the above scenario is not about CFS (it is about schizophrenia).
However, PWCs are supposed to *think about it* all the time for the next
decades or so and they are not allowed to know that they do since this
scenario is situated in the Hermetic world. PWCs are supposed to keep on
*dreaming* - just like the Dead Dog is dreaming to become Satan one day.
This is what Satanism is all about.
Marc Fluks
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Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks wrote:
> Mandi Smallhorne <mandi...@ICON.CO.ZA> wrote,
>> Please, please stop this.
>
> It will never stop - it will go on *forever*... and we are *not allowed*
> to recover *ever*.
>
> So what is wrong with this XMRV ?
>
> * I recently said that there is something Mercurial going on here.
will go on *forever* and we are *not allowed* to recover *ever*? Since
Mercury is ever-changing; this is the basic quality of Mercury; that
would seem to contradict your statements.
Also, in Chaldean numerology, XMRV = 8, which is the number of Saturn
(not Sat*n). Saturn indicates conscientious, hard work and responsible,
studious change and development.
> 'XMRV' says that the characters 'M' 'R', and 'V' are to deleted
> (that is: 'X') in the Latin name for Mercury ('Mercvrivs', since
> the 'u' is written 'v' in Latin), and that the 'v' in the result is
> written in English again ('v' -> 'u') - the result being 'ercuis',
> and this is an anagram for,
> is cure
> So the statement in XMRV is that Mercury is a cure (Mercury is the
> Deity of Quackery). This is trivial, but most patients will not see
> it - they will see something *very different*. They think that it
> is about medicine, a virus and a cure for CFS. No - it just is an
> evil trick of CFS quacks, Mercury being the trickster.
Saturn sees the cold, hard truth. And Mercury is only occasionally a
trickster.
Have you discussed or checked out your hermetic hypotheses with other
experts? What do they make of it? One can really go off-base in a
vacuum without other people around to be a reality check.
Where do you get your information on Hermeticism? Your *brand* of
hermeticism is *very* different than what I learned many, many years ago
when I was interested in ancient lore and mythology.
Cathy
>
> * Next, the XMRV finding are to be confirmed by the Swedish CFS quack
> Gottfries with a method, called 'Gefrix', to cure CFS and FM,
> http://www.gottfriesclinic.com
> http://www.gefrix.com
> http://www.gefrix.se
> http://www.gefrix.us
> In fact, this is the same trick as we see above. 'Gefrix' is a command
> that states that the characters 'Gefri' are to be deleted (that is:
> 'X') in 'Gottfries'. The result, 'otts' is an anagram of,
> stot
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stot
> On this URL it says,
> Stot: an inferior horse
> Well, in Freemason satanism, the inferior horse is called 'Unicorn'
> and it refers to the constellation Monoceros,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoceros
> This is a very important constellation in the Milky Way since it
> *separates* the two constellations Dog in the sky - and *everything*
> in Freemasonry is about *merging* the two dogs so Satan (Orthos)
> will be awakened.
Freemasonry *is not* about sat*nism. Freemasonry is not a Sat*anic
religion or cult. Freemasons is a fraternal organization which believes
in a supreme being (not Sat*n). They use sllegory and symbols to
communication their system of morality.
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