Tinnitus & Allergies
aorth
fullness in the ears or sensitivity to loud noises?
Has anyone ever been told this was due to their allergies? I feel that mine
is, and need some input.
Thanks
Alison
Jerry M. Wright
>Does anyone with allergies have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) or sense of
>fullness in the ears or sensitivity to loud noises?
Yes
>
>Has anyone ever been told this was due to their allergies?
Personally, no one ever mentioned a possible connection and I didn't
ask. However, the problems pretty much went away when I got relief
from chronic allergies. Still have tinnitus from time to time but
usually that's associated with allergen exposure.
Lrj103
to the grains, I think it is some kind of preservative.
Cathy Wells
>Does anyone with allergies have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) or sense of
>fullness in the ears or sensitivity to loud noises?
Yes.
>
>Has anyone ever been told this was due to their allergies? I feel that mine
>is, and need some input.
No, no one has ever suggested this. However I've got two kinds of
tinnitus. One is the high-pitched ringing, or humming sound, and I've
had this for years. The other is a sort of "clanking" that I get only
in the right ear, and only occasionally. I know this is from
overexposure to sound, but the other tinnitus could be allergy
related. Weird. I never thought of that.
Cathy
>
>Thanks
>Alison
>
>
aorth
allergies are more severe I will notice the ringing to be much louder in the
2-3 days following. I also feel like the ear is "full". Last time I had my
hearing checked (5 yrs ago after first noticed tinnitus) they said my
hearing was fine and could find no cause.
I have since been researching tinnitus and found a strong (40%) correlation
of tinnitus and allergies. That is to say that 40% of those with tinnitus
or related disorders of the inner ear and Eustachian tube also have inhalant
allergies.
It was also noted that there was a high incidence of mold allergies.
This information comes from a screening investigation of 186 patients seen
for otological problems. I thought it would be interesting to hear from the
group.
Alison
> >Does anyone with allergies have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) or sense
of
> >fullness in the ears or sensitivity to loud noises?
>
> Yes.
> >
> >Has anyone ever been told this was due to their allergies? I feel that
mine
> >is, and need some input.
>>Alison
Philip Mulrane
<ao...@netcom.ca> writes:
:>
:>The reason I have been looking into this is that I notice that when my
:>allergies are more severe I will notice the ringing to be much louder in the
:>2-3 days following. I also feel like the ear is "full". Last time I had my
:>hearing checked (5 yrs ago after first noticed tinnitus) they said my
:>hearing was fine and could find no cause.
:>
:>I have since been researching tinnitus and found a strong (40%) correlation
:>of tinnitus and allergies. That is to say that 40% of those with tinnitus
:>or related disorders of the inner ear and Eustachian tube also have inhalant
:>allergies.
:>
:>It was also noted that there was a high incidence of mold allergies.
:>
:>This information comes from a screening investigation of 186 patients seen
:>for otological problems. I thought it would be interesting to hear from the
sometimes RHS, also a "rushing" sound, and the above mentioned sensitivity to
noises and "full" feeling. I am undergoing treatment here in Germany from a
Dr.Greuel, his method connects tinnitus to particular personalty types, for
example, people who are very conscientious, very exact, etc. The ear area
receives less blood than normal, based on (among other things) muscle tension
constricting the blood flow. This causes all sorts of things, including (and
this is the point), poor 'housekeeping' in the head cavities when it comes to
the removal of mucus, e.g. sinuses cavities, middle ear, etc. An overfilled
middle ear (the "full" feeling?) is one possible source of tinnitus. The
overprocuction of mucus (and thus helping to create the situation of an
overfilled middle ear) and the swelling of sinuses are things connected to
allergies (dust mite, etc.). In addition, as far as I see it, allergies have a
(for me anyway) psychological component, therefore that tinnitus and allergies
often appear together seems quite logical. I believe that both types of
problems have a common root, rather than one causing the other.
,Philip
P.S. Search on 'Biomental' for Dr.Greuel's website.
aorth
Philip Mulrane <pmul...@schuh-kg.de> wrote in message
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Thank you for this information of Dr. Greuel'stheory. It is one I have not
heard before however I am that type of person. I also clench my teeth at
night and under stress. I have a lot of tension I hold in my jaw area. If
it is a matter of decreased blood flow, would massages, yoga, breathing
excerses etc not help this?
Alison
>
Steen Hansen
Tinnitus and dislike of high sounds are not uncommon in people with allergies.
I have it too.
In article <zsLl4.220454$5r2.5...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>,
aorth <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote:
>The reason I have been looking into this is that I notice that when my
>allergies are more severe I will notice the ringing to be much louder in the
>2-3 days following. I also feel like the ear is "full". Last time I had my
>hearing checked (5 yrs ago after first noticed tinnitus) they said my
>hearing was fine and could find no cause.
>
>I have since been researching tinnitus and found a strong (40%) correlation
>of tinnitus and allergies. That is to say that 40% of those with tinnitus
>or related disorders of the inner ear and Eustachian tube also have inhalant
>allergies.
>
>It was also noted that there was a high incidence of mold allergies.
>
>This information comes from a screening investigation of 186 patients seen
>for otological problems. I thought it would be interesting to hear from the
Mary Holmes Dague
I'm coming in from the Alt.Support.Tinnitus board... I've had tinnitus most
of my life and allergies as well. The tinnitus comes from damage to the ear
and the only way I can see allergies actually causing tinnitus would be from
complications of involvement in the ears and lungs. Of course tinnitus
tends to rise during periods of congestion, which is why my parents took me
to an allergist in the first place once my hearing impairment/tinnitus was
confirmed. I've always felt blessed by the injections I get, which really
help keep allergies at bay and tinnitus in the back of the mind.--Mary
"aorth" <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
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> Does anyone with allergies have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) or sense of
> fullness in the ears or sensitivity to loud noises?
>
> Has anyone ever been told this was due to their allergies? I feel that
mine
> is, and need some input.
>
> Thanks
> Alison
>
>
Philip Mulrane
<ao...@netcom.ca> writes:
:>> P.S. Search on 'Biomental' for Dr.Greuel's website.
:>
:>Thank you for this information of Dr. Greuel'stheory. It is one I have not
:>heard before however I am that type of person. I also clench my teeth at
:>night and under stress. I have a lot of tension I hold in my jaw area. If
:>it is a matter of decreased blood flow, would massages, yoga, breathing
:>excerses etc not help this?
:>
:>Alison
idea is that the body has learned a 'reflex' response to stress type
situations, this reflex becomes set into your behaviour, and does not go away
of it's own accord, even if you are no longer under (self imposed) stress.
It must be trained out of you by learning an 'anti-reflex' which will cancel
the original one out. Dr.G has a 'home detraining package', however I am
being treated at his practice, and all I can say is that it works for me. I
feel that I would not have managed with the home package alone.
,Philip
aorth
I too used to get allergy shots but have not done so for the last 4-5 yrs.
Perhaps I should re-examine at this option. Currently I keep mine under
control with daily Reactine.
I have also just quit smoking - 3 weeks - and this should make a difference
(since I am allergic to Tabacco as per my patch testing).
I just cannot bring myself to give away my 2 cats. I do keep them out of
the bedroom and have a filter etc and all of those things, but still
experience daily allergy symptoms and my tinnitus increases in conjunction
with allergy symptoms or post allergy attacks.
Thanks for listening everyone, other than my Mum (who had to take drastic
measures to allergy proof our home after I taken to hospital for allergic
reactions at 5 yrs old.) no one else takes my allergy seriously - "It's
psychological etc etc" True, I see an increase when I am stressed or
irritated etc but this is not a cause.
Alison
Mary Holmes Dague <dag...@epix.net> wrote in message
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aorth
It makes sense, I have checked out Dr. Gruel's website and related links.
It is definitely not overexpensive and may be worth a try to send for the
package. At least he and others in Europe are doing clinical trials and
attempting to find an answer. In Canada all they can say is - "Not sure
why, not sure what you can do, just learn to live with it..."
Furthermore there seems to be no great interest to research tinnitus in
Canada. We do have an association that I have just discovered and will now
support, however I cannot even find a Dr. in my province that I can go to
regarding tinnitus.
Alison
Philip Mulrane <pmul...@schuh-kg.de> wrote in message
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Philip Mulrane
<ao...@netcom.ca> writes:
:>
:>Thank you Philip.
:>
:>It makes sense, I have checked out Dr. Gruel's website and related links.
:>It is definitely not overexpensive and may be worth a try to send for the
:>package.
:>Furthermore there seems to be no great interest to research tinnitus in
:>Canada. We do have an association that I have just discovered and will now
:>support, however I cannot even find a Dr. in my province that I can go to
:>regarding tinnitus.
long quest before I found Dr.G, I had special infusions, a brace for my teeth,
all my wizdom teeth were removed and God know what else, all useless. I found
Dr.G myself via the internet. When I talked to my (then) current ENT doc, he
reacted as if I was proposing to fly to Africa for some treatment by a
witchdoctor, "Oh, so you've been surfing the internet eh?". As fas as I'm
concerned, he was just trying to protect his own earnings. Dr.G told me about
the day he presented his findings at an ENT conference, the other EHT's were
quite angry with him! One quotation "Think of all the beds in my clinic that
would be empty if I cured the patients! I'd lose a fortune!". Makes ya sick.
I had a job getting my health insurance to cover it, but they decided to cover
90% of the costs.
I'm still not free of my tinnitus, but I can report a reduction to 30% or so
of the orig. loudness, and I believe I'm on my way to 0%. If you decide to try
it, and need any help don't hesitate to contact me via e-mail.
,Philip
Mary Holmes Dague
research in both UK and US. Also ironic is the fact that one treatment used
in UK is a histimine called Serc. It's unavailable in the US, and many
people Americans go to Canada to get prescriptions and to Mexico to buy it
over the counter!
Are you from Toronto? You might look into SUNY at Buffalo, where some of
the most exciting research has been done by Drs. Salvi and Lockwood. I
would expect there is a good audiology clinic there with people who are
interested in tinnitus.
Mary
"aorth" <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
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> Thank you Philip.
>
> It makes sense, I have checked out Dr. Gruel's website and related links.
> It is definitely not overexpensive and may be worth a try to send for the
> package. At least he and others in Europe are doing clinical trials and
> attempting to find an answer. In Canada all they can say is - "Not sure
> why, not sure what you can do, just learn to live with it..."
>
> Furthermore there seems to be no great interest to research tinnitus in
> Canada. We do have an association that I have just discovered and will
now
> support, however I cannot even find a Dr. in my province that I can go to
> regarding tinnitus.
>
aorth
What is that prescription you were referring to? Do you have any
information about it's use as a treatment?
Thanks
Alison
Mary Holmes Dague <dag...@epix.net> wrote in message
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Adelle Stavis
Only glanced at the replies you've recieved. Wanted to let you know that
tinnitus is often present when congestion and swelling affect the eustachian
tubes. The stuffiness is probably from congestion, and swelling preventing
the congestion from draining. Congestion and swelling are common allergy
symptoms.
If I read correctly, you (or perhaps it was a response to you) said
something about clenching and grinding teeth. Tinnitus can be caused by
these actions as well. Tinnitus and headaches (along w/some other symptoms
and wear patterns to my teeth) were what led to a diagnosis of TMJ syndrome
for me after I was in major pain after an auto accident.
Getting the congestion to drain has been crucial for me. It really relieved
the ear pressure and tinnitus. Avoiding antihistamines became important.
They dry out the mucous, making it stickier, thus preventing the mucous from
draining. I use a strong decongestant (one mixed with an expectorant in a
prescription strength - Over the counter ones in US are the yellow Triaminic
syrup and Robitussin CF which also has a cough suppressant but sometimes I
took the unneccesary stuff to get the decongestant). If you don't want the
expectorant, plain decongestant will do. Ask your local pharmacist for a
recommendation.
The decongestant is coupled with a steroid nasal spray (a prescription item
in US). The latter reduces the swelling to facilitate draining. The protocol
also entails drinking tons of water, which thins out the secretions, also
facilitating drainage.
If TMJ may be an issue, you need to find out from your dentist who in your
area has experience/specialty to get a good diagnosis. I found someone
really good who fit me for a splint (custom guard which fits over lower
teeth). I wound up needing a cortisone shot to the jaw joint, (doubt that
will be nec. for you) but after that, the splint provided great relief.
Wishing you well,
Adelle Stavis
"aorth" <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
aorth
That's great information! However I must take some sort of antihistamine
for my allergies (since I don't have prescription coverage I can't afford
more expensive options such as Rhinocort etc) so any suggestions on how to
relieve congestion, stuffiness and promote drainage while still keeping
allergies under control?
Anyone?
Adelle Stavis <Nospamcu...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> Dear Alison,
>
> Only glanced at the replies you've recieved. Wanted to let you know that
> tinnitus is often present when congestion and swelling affect the
eustachian
> tubes. The stuffiness is probably from congestion, and swelling preventing
> the congestion from draining. Congestion and swelling are common allergy
> symptoms.
>
> Getting the congestion to drain has been crucial for me. It really
relieved
> the ear pressure and tinnitus. Avoiding antihistamines became important.
> They dry out the mucous, making it stickier, thus preventing the mucous
from
> draining. I use a strong decongestant (one mixed with an expectorant in a
> prescription strength - Over the counter ones in US are the yellow
Triaminic
> syrup and Robitussin CF which also has a cough suppressant but sometimes I
> took the unneccesary stuff to get the decongestant). If you don't want the
> expectorant, plain decongestant will do. Ask your local pharmacist for a
> recommendation.
>
> The decongestant is coupled with a steroid nasal spray (a prescription
item
> in US). The latter reduces the swelling to facilitate draining. The
protocol
> also entails drinking tons of water, which thins out the secretions, also
> facilitating drainage.
>
> Wishing you well,
>
> Adelle Stavis
Mary Holmes Dague
I took a guess at Toronto because of the "tor" in the thread...sorry about
that.
Serc is also called betahistimine. All I know is that Jonathan Hazell, the
great mind behind UK tinnitus research, prescribes it at his clinic, and for
some people it seems to lower the volume of tinnitus. I suspect it would
also have a positive impact on allergy care, but I'm not a doctor, so am
only guessing.
The reason it's not approved in the U.S. is simply red tape. No one has
documented dangerous side effects as far as I know. So if you can find a
doctor who is at least interested (maybe even an allergist), maybe you can
give it a try. If you post on alt.support.tinnitus, you might find some
Brits who have used Serc or some Americans who use Serc as an excuse to
visit your beautiful country!
I'm really surprised Vancouver would be without a good hearing/audiology
facility. (My parents were Canadian--moved to NY after the war, so I have my
pro-neighbor-to-the-North bias.) The closest major U.S. facility for
tinnitus is in Portland, Oregon at the Oregon Health Sciences University
Tinnitus Clinic. They have a website. I know that's not exactly in your
back yard, either. Also, it's a major clinic; they would test over several
days, so depending on the severity of your tinnitus it might or might not be
something that interests you.
Thanks for helping me find this board! Really interesting people and
variety of experiences....
Mary
"aorth" <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately I am not in Toronto but in Vancouver.
>
> What is that prescription you were referring to? Do you have any
> information about it's use as a treatment?
>
> Thanks
> Alison
>
> Mary Holmes Dague <dag...@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Vhim4.101$59.1...@news1.epix.net...
> > It's ironic that Canada isn't "on" to tinnitus as it's such a big topic
of
> > research in both UK and US. Also ironic is the fact that one treatment
> used
> > in UK is a histimine called Serc. It's unavailable in the US, and many
> > people Americans go to Canada to get prescriptions and to Mexico to buy
it
> > over the counter!
> >
> > Are you from Toronto? You might look into SUNY at Buffalo, where some
of
> > the most exciting research has been done by Drs. Salvi and Lockwood. I
> > would expect there is a good audiology clinic there with people who are
> > interested in tinnitus.
> >
> > Mary
> > "aorth" <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
aorth
Thank you again for your all of this information. This is what makes these
groups so valuable!
Alison
Mary Holmes Dague <dag...@epix.net> wrote in message
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Adelle Stavis
combining an antihistamine with a decongestant. The 'anti' theory is that
the antihistamines (drying agent) counteracts the decongestant (loosening
agent).
Yet, they are frequently marketed in a combined form, like Drixoral (again,
I can only refer to US names, not knowing the Canadian brand names). Whether
this is because of efficacy or just a marketing thing, I don't know.
Maybe taking both and drinking alot?
Some people do the old fashioned breathing steam routine?
Adelle Stavis
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acupuncture. Eight times in 3 months and not any problem after that.
Rami
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:02:25 -0800, "aorth" <ao...@netcom.ca> wrote: