design newcomer for woodworking

[AAvK]

Hey all! I just took up small shop woodworking as a "to-do" for my life,
and I am interested in doing my own designs. I have tride most of the free
CAD proggies out there, I do have some serious ADHD in my brain so I
have decided to draw with paper and pencil. I have tride it on a few designs
and I really enjoy it, so can anyone tell me of websites that freely tutor
all the basics and rules, principles of manual drafting?

Thanks much in advance!

Alex

[Ecnerwal]

In article <ugNwd.11034$DC.9662@fed1read03>, "AAvK" <ah...@notquite.net>
wrote:

> and I really enjoy it, so can anyone tell me of websites that freely tutor
> all the basics and rules, principles of manual drafting?

Seems unlikely (I've yet to find CAD that work as well as pencil and
paper, or that works _like_ pencil and paper, which I was trained to do
in high school, but even I find the idea of a web site for it dubious),
but any half-decent used book store should have several textbooks on the
subject, as it used to be commonly taught in schools and colleges.
Apparently still is in a few places.

Not to say I have not used various CAD programs over the years, I simply
have not found one I actually like - and I think part of that is that I
was trained to to the job on paper, so I want CAD tools that work the
way paper tools work - ie, set the compass, pick the center point, draw
a circle, not pick the center point, drag to get a circle, have to go
back and edit the object to get the circle the right size....

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[Jim L.]

Hi- suggest you obtain a copy of "Engineering Drawing" by Thomas A. French.
Pub. by McGraw -Hill. My copy is 7th. ed.
and pub. in 1947. Jim

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[Joe]

Can't help you much otehr than pointing you towards the following newsgroups
that might help you more:

rec.woodworking

alt.woodworking
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Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
http://www.autodrill.com
http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com

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[Gunner]

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:44:42 GMT, "Jim L." <jfl...@flash.net> wrote:

>Hi- suggest you obtain a copy of "Engineering Drawing" by Thomas A. French.
>Pub. by McGraw -Hill. My copy is 7th. ed.
>and pub. in 1947. Jim

Thats one of the more common books in second hand and thrift stores.

Gunner

>
> <ah...@notquite.net> wrote in message news:ugNwd.11034$DC.9662@fed1read03...
>>
>> Hey all! I just took up small shop woodworking as a "to-do" for my life,
>> and I am interested in doing my own designs. I have tride most of the free
>> CAD proggies out there, I do have some serious ADHD in my brain so I
>> have decided to draw with paper and pencil. I have tride it on a few
>designs
>> and I really enjoy it, so can anyone tell me of websites that freely tutor
>> all the basics and rules, principles of manual drafting?
>>
>> Thanks much in advance!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

[AAvK]

> Hi- suggest you obtain a copy of "Engineering Drawing" by Thomas A. French.
> Pub. by McGraw -Hill. My copy is 7th. ed.
> and pub. in 1947. Jim
>
>

Thanks Jim I'll try to find that one.

Alex

[AAvK]

> Can't help you much otehr than pointing you towards the following newsgroups
> that might help you more:
> rec.woodworking
> alt.woodworking
>

Heh... now I get to email my ISP and order them to include the latter, I can't
get it currently but I do communicate in wRECk.

Alex

[AAvK]

> Seems unlikely (I've yet to find CAD that work as well as pencil and
> paper, or that works _like_ pencil and paper, which I was trained to do
> in high school, but even I find the idea of a web site for it dubious),
> but any half-decent used book store should have several textbooks on the
> subject, as it used to be commonly taught in schools and colleges.
> Apparently still is in a few places.
>
> Not to say I have not used various CAD programs over the years, I simply
> have not found one I actually like - and I think part of that is that I
> was trained to to the job on paper, so I want CAD tools that work the
> way paper tools work - ie, set the compass, pick the center point, draw
> a circle, not pick the center point, drag to get a circle, have to go
> back and edit the object to get the circle the right size....
>
>

I entirely agree with you, drawing is much more creative to physically "do it"
rather than being a mouse monster, everything else on the computer is enough!

Alex

[Bob K 207]

>Subject: Re: design newcomer for woodworking
>From: "Jim L." jfl...@flash.net
>Date: 12/17/2004 7:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <KINwd.188$by5...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>

perhaps that is Thomas E. French

here's a link to lots of very old editions

http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=18&an=frenc
h&tn=engineering+drawing&imagefield.y=14

[AAvK]

> perhaps that is Thomas E. French
> here's a link to lots of very old editions
> http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=18&an=french&tn=engineering+drawing&imagefield.y=14
>
>

WHEW! And a whole 19 webpages of the same book in different editions, wowzers!

Alex

[ATP]

"Ecnerwal" <Lawren...@SOuthernVERmont.NyET> wrote in message
news:LawrenceSMITH-0D0...@news.verizon.net...

I use Autocad once in a while. I almost never rely on mouse positioning. If
you can set a compass you can specify a radius. Lines need to be terminated
at intersections, coordinates, or a specified extension. You will then be
able to zoom in on any detail of the drawing and it will still appear to be
perfect.

[Rose]

I'd also have to agree. I get a lot of similar questions from artists
and the like. It would do you good to spend some time at your library
or buy some basic books at the bookstore.

Rose
http://members.aol.com/Roseb441702/consult.htm
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