Jim & Jorn forever together in undeletable posterity
Christopher McKinstry
From: Christopher McKinstry (ch...@clickable.com)
Subject: help AI guy in weird project...
Newsgroups: comp.ai, comp.ai.philosophy
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Date: 1997/03/01
i know i'm always bugging people here to help me in weird projects...
but you see... i've been... well... producing an internet soap opera for
awhile... uh... http://www.cr6.com
honestly i did it just to attract more people to the MISTIC project...
it worked...
now i've got a problem, and i need a little help from my friends here...
please vote for CR6 at http://www.yahoo.ca/picks/vote.html
in a round-about-way it will help AI...
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http://www.clickable.com/mist_corpus.html
Message 2 in thread
From: Johnny Stevenson (j.p.st...@ncl.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: help AI guy in weird project...
Newsgroups: comp.ai, comp.ai.philosophy
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Date: 1997/03/01
Christopher McKinstry wrote:
>
> i know i'm always bugging people here to help me in weird projects...
> but you see... i've been... well... producing an internet soap opera for
> awhile... uh... http://www.cr6.com
>
> honestly i did it just to attract more people to the MISTIC project...
> it worked...
>
> now i've got a problem, and i need a little help from my friends here...
>
> please vote for CR6 at http://www.yahoo.ca/picks/vote.html
>
> in a round-about-way it will help AI...
You are currently second with 20%. First place has 73.3%
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Message 3 in thread
From: Jorn Barger (jo...@MCS.COM)
Subject: Re: help AI guy in weird project...
Newsgroups: comp.ai, comp.ai.philosophy, alt.hypertext, alt.mckinstry.pencil-dick
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Date: 1997/03/01
In article <331809...@clickable.com>,
Christopher McKinstry <ch...@clickable.com> wrote:
>i know i'm always bugging people here to help me in weird projects...
>but you see... i've been... well... producing an internet soap opera for
>awhile... uh... http://www.cr6.com
>honestly i did it just to attract more people to the MISTIC project...
>it worked...
how? i can't find any link from it to MISTIC...
>now i've got a problem, and i need a little help from my friends here...
>please vote for CR6 at http://www.yahoo.ca/picks/vote.html
i went to yahoo just to vote against it (see below) but after checking
it out, it's really not that awful, as hyperfiction.
>in a round-about-way it will help AI...
when i revise my AI faq/pages, Chris, I will include MISTIC as a
fascinating case-study in the wrong way to do AI. it reminds me of
Dalton (the inventor of atomic theory) who compiled detailed
meteorological records every day, thinking that posterity would
find them invaluable. (nothing so far ;^/
>--
>-K. Christopher McKinstry : Homepage
> http://www.clickable.com/employees/chris/index.html
>-Join In The World's Largest AI Effort
> http://www.clickable.com/mist_corpus.html
Chris also seems to have his own newsgroup-- alt.mckinstry.pencil-dick
though i don't know what for.
my own negative feelings go back to the Loebner list, where he
bragged he had an entry that would soon take the grand prize, and
sent me sample dialogs that i immediately found suspect. (he's
never entered, as far as i know.) he offered me the program
if i'd sign a non-disclosure, and when i turned down the offer he
turned savagely against me, rather mysteriously...
j
Message 4 in thread
From: Jim Balter (j...@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: help AI guy in weird project...
Newsgroups: comp.ai, comp.ai.philosophy, alt.mckinstry.pencil-dick
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Date: 1997/03/07
Jorn Barger wrote:
>
> In article <331809...@clickable.com>,
> Christopher McKinstry <ch...@clickable.com> wrote:
> >i know i'm always bugging people here to help me in weird projects...
> >but you see... i've been... well... producing an internet soap opera for
> >awhile... uh... http://www.cr6.com
> >honestly i did it just to attract more people to the MISTIC project...
> >it worked...
>
> how? i can't find any link from it to MISTIC...
>
> >now i've got a problem, and i need a little help from my friends here...
> >please vote for CR6 at http://www.yahoo.ca/picks/vote.html
>
> i went to yahoo just to vote against it (see below) but after checking
> it out, it's really not that awful, as hyperfiction.
>
> >in a round-about-way it will help AI...
>
> when i revise my AI faq/pages, Chris, I will include MISTIC as a
> fascinating case-study in the wrong way to do AI. it reminds me of
> Dalton (the inventor of atomic theory) who compiled detailed
> meteorological records every day, thinking that posterity would
> find them invaluable. (nothing so far ;^/
>
> >--
> >-K. Christopher McKinstry : Homepage
> > http://www.clickable.com/employees/chris/index.html
> >-Join In The World's Largest AI Effort
> > http://www.clickable.com/mist_corpus.html
>
> Chris also seems to have his own newsgroup-- alt.mckinstry.pencil-dick
> though i don't know what for.
>
> my own negative feelings go back to the Loebner list, where he
> bragged he had an entry that would soon take the grand prize, and
> sent me sample dialogs that i immediately found suspect. (he's
> never entered, as far as i know.) he offered me the program
> if i'd sign a non-disclosure, and when i turned down the offer he
> turned savagely against me, rather mysteriously...
This is all very similar to my experience. Upon criticizing his
project, he started posting dejanews statistics on my net usage,
criticizing me for the low percentage of my postings that were
original rather than responses. A typical ad hominem response
from a class A jackass.
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