JSH: Somewhat strange
JSH
algebra and now there is this fascinating period while I consider a
mathematical community which seems committed to ignoring it.
Yes, a simple way to break the denial would be to just factor some
large number.
But there are multiple reasons why it would take some time before I'd
even try, where one of them is just fascination.
The big thing though is that I don't need to end up doing everything
alone as that's not a safe place, so I talk about the result to get
others to test it, see that it works and then a crew can deliver the
evidence to the world, which is the safest for all of us.
But while that process continues, I get to just be amazed at pondering
how this situation is possible.
It's fascinating. Way far from any fiction, so yes, again, truth is
stranger than fiction.
To some extent it may be explained by shock. Most of you I'm sure
don't believe there could be a simple solution to a really big math
problem that was just ignored, so you decide that no mathematical
proof is enough, until enough other people agree.
So truth for you is not about what you can prove to yourself, but what
people tell you is true.
James Harris
Nonie
<b32accb6-ed9e-4291...@d21g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
JSH <jst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, so I solved the factoring problem with some relatively easy
> algebra
What, _exactly_, is "the factoring problem"?
[...]
> James Harris
N. Silver
> Ok, so I solved the factoring problem with some relatively easy
> algebra and now there is this fascinating period while I consider a
> mathematical community which seems committed to ignoring it.
On the contrary, your stuff has received more attention than
most any work of its caliber, ever.
Much of it was in trying to reason with you to no avail.
> Yes, a simple way to break the denial would be to just factor some
> large number.
Do you think people are so dense they do not know you are bluffing?
JSH
You wish. I don't bluff. I didn't bluff before with the research
that got published, and then retracted by broken editors.
I have many reasons to make this a long and drawn out process and you
have the ability to just look over the mathematical proof that I have.
And the promise that I really think that people like you were trying
to destroy the future of the entire human race.
There was a time when I pondered if maybe there were some alien
species that had settled on simply blocking mathematical progress to
kill the species, but decided that simple con artists who were too
small-minded to understand fully what they were doing was a simpler
explanation.
But now you have to ponder: if I'm right--and you can easily check the
math to see if you are a real mathematician--then I or someone else
can end this with just one factorization of an RSA public key and then
you deal with my explanation of who you are and what you've done.
That will be what the world knows as the message. That people like
you knowingly set them up in a stupid con.
At a minimum you face angry parents told that "professors" knowingly
taught students false information to get paid because they were simple
cons who thought they'd never get caught.
If it were your child, what would you do to the person you knew did
that?
James Harris
mensa...@aol.com
> On Jan 21, 7:55 pm, "N. Silver" <math...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > JSH wrote:
> > > Ok, so I solved the factoring problem with some relatively easy
> > > algebra and now there is this fascinating period while I consider a
> > > mathematical community which seems committed to ignoring it.
>
> > On the contrary, your stuff has received more attention than
> > most any work of its caliber, ever.
>
> > Much of it was in trying to reason with you to no avail.
>
> > > Yes, a simple way to break the denial would be to just factor some
> > > large number.
>
> > Do you think people are so dense they do not know you are bluffing?
>
> You wish. �I don't bluff. �I didn't bluff before with the research
> that got published, and then retracted by broken editors.
>
> I have many reasons to make this a long and drawn out process and you
> have the ability to just look over the mathematical proof that I have.
>
> And the promise that I really think that people like you were trying
> to destroy the future of the entire human race.
>
> There was a time when I pondered if maybe there were some alien
> species that had settled on simply blocking mathematical progress to
> kill the species, but decided that simple con artists who were too
> small-minded to understand fully what they were doing was a simpler
> explanation.
Tom Cruise makes more sense.
>
> But now you have to ponder: if I'm right--and you can easily check the
> math to see if you are a real mathematician--then I or someone else
> can end this with just one factorization of an RSA public key
If you factor one RSA number, people will then ask you
to factor all of them. Don't say you weren't warned.
gjedwards
Can you remind us how the statistical distribution of p mod 3 looks
again?
Frank J. Lhota
> You wish. I don't bluff. I didn't bluff before with the research
> that got published, and then retracted by broken editors.
You finally you place the blame on the SWJPAM fiasco where it lies: with
the editors.
> I have many reasons to make this a long and drawn out process and you
> have the ability to just look over the mathematical proof that I have.
>
> And the promise that I really think that people like you were trying
> to destroy the future of the entire human race.
>
> There was a time when I pondered if maybe there were some alien
> species that had settled on simply blocking mathematical progress to
> kill the species, but decided that simple con artists who were too
> small-minded to understand fully what they were doing was a simpler
> explanation.
Queue the "X-Files" theme...
Kang: Lo! Earth! What a lovely new home for our people.
Kodos: Yes, but how do we get rid of the those pesky humans that infest
this planet? Perhaps a plague, or an attack using our advanced weapons?
Kang: No, there is a much simpler method to eliminate the humans. We
will convince them to destroy themselves!
Kodos: By giving rise to fascism and racism? By increasing international
tensions?
Kang: *No!* I have something far more insidious in mind! We will create
a conspiracy to corrupt the study of pure math! (Evil laugh)
Kodos: (Joins Kang in evil laugh)
> But now you have to ponder: if I'm right--and you can easily check the
> math to see if you are a real mathematician--then I or someone else
> can end this with just one factorization of an RSA public key and then
> you deal with my explanation of who you are and what you've done.
Presumably, those who have found errors in your previous formulations
have checked the math, and hence are real mathematicians. Will you stop
calling them con artists?
> That will be what the world knows as the message. That people like
> you knowingly set them up in a stupid con.
>
> At a minimum you face angry parents told that "professors" knowingly
> taught students false information to get paid because they were simple
> cons who thought they'd never get caught.
>
> If it were your child, what would you do to the person you knew did
> that?
Even if, and that's a big if, your forty-third attempt at fast integer
factorization actually is the breakthrough that your previous forty-two
attempts were not, what con was performed by the professors? The only
claim made about integer factorization in current textbooks and college
lectures is that there is no _known_ algorithm for factoring in
polynomial time. Now assuming that you were the first person to find
such an algorithm, no such algorithm existed at the time these textbooks
and lectures were made. So where is the lie?
>
> James Harris
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