leg kicks?

Mark T

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:42:59 PM4/13/13

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Have there been any any UFC matches where the muay
thai style kicks, to the legs, were the decisive factor?
I can't recall any, but I don't watch too often.

These are crucial to muay thai, but seem to have
little place in mma.

Though I do remember a match between a classical
boxer and kickboxer, kickboxing rules (probly on Youtube,
but I can't find it). The boxer was way ahead after 2 rounds,
while the opoonent was taking a beating, responding
with leg kicks, primarily. Then, shockingly, at the 3rd
round bell, the boxer threw in the towel, he coudn't stand!
So that's a data point. But I haven't seen that in mma.

Then, switching from sport to The Street, there are no
rounds, and you won't get to spar for 6 minutes. So
again it's a questionable strategy.

Mark

Mighty Wannabe

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Apr 14, 2013, 12:33:45 AM4/14/13

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On Apr 13, 7:42 pm, Mark T <marktanne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have there been any any UFC matches where the muay
> thai style kicks, to the legs, were the decisive factor?
> I can't recall any, but I don't watch too often.
>

I don't watch too often also. The earlier UFC was almost all BJJ. I
noticed recently that more fighters are using Muay Thai now.

> These are crucial to muay thai, but seem to have
> little place in mma.

It is the rules. By "mma" I think you mean UFC. The UFC rules are
craftily designed to divide the game into "stand up" and "ground"
game. Go to the UFC website and read their rules. Their rules remove
all possibility of preventing a take-down, and prevent any technique
that can stop the ground game other than by submission.

> Though I do remember a match between a classical
> boxer and kickboxer, kickboxing rules (probly on Youtube,
> but I can't find it). The boxer was way ahead after 2 rounds,
> while the opoonent was taking a beating, responding
> with leg kicks, primarily. Then, shockingly, at the 3rd
> round bell, the boxer threw in the towel, he coudn't stand!
> So that's a data point. But I haven't seen that in mma.

Muay Thai has devastating kicks, and kicking has much longer reach
than punching. A Muay Thai kickboxer can kick the shit out of a boxer.

Normal people don't know how to handle a Muay Thai kick, but Muay Thai
people learn how to kick and how to receive a kick. Most of the time
it involves leaning back to let the incoming foot ride up and trap it
between your arm and your torso.

> Then, switching from sport to The Street, there are no
> rounds, and you won't get to spar for 6 minutes. So
> again it's a questionable strategy.
>
> Mark

Most people don't know martial-arts. Most street fights are just
people slugging each other. You can beat anyone in a street fight if
you know a little bit of martial-arts.

Mentalguy2k8

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Apr 14, 2013, 9:55:50 AM4/14/13

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"Mark T" <markta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Have there been any any UFC matches where the muay
> thai style kicks, to the legs, were the decisive factor?
> I can't recall any, but I don't watch too often.

I think so, but they're the equivalent of boxing's body shots, they don't
usually end a fight but they can cause enough build-up of damage to affect
the eventual outcome in one way or another.

I remember a UFC fight a few years ago, one fighter targetted the other
guy's left leg with right kick after kick after kick and eventually the poor
guy was lame. He tried to hide it but you could see he was doing everything
he could to stop his knee giving way, he could hardly put any weight on it.
It certainly took his mind off his own game.

the dog from that film you saw

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Apr 14, 2013, 11:03:59 AM4/14/13

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paul varelans vs marco ruas.

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Mark T

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Apr 15, 2013, 3:32:52 PM4/15/13

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On Apr 14, the dog from that film you saw

d...@REMOVETHISbtinternet.com> wrote:
> > Have there been any any UFC matches where the muay
> > thai style kicks, to the legs, were the decisive factor?
> > I can't recall any, but I don't watch too often.
>
> > These are crucial to muay thai, but seem to have
> > little place in mma.
>
> > Though I do remember a match between a classical
> > boxer and kickboxer, kickboxing rules (probly on Youtube,
> > but I can't find it). The boxer was way ahead after 2 rounds,
> > while the opoonent was taking a beating, responding
> > with leg kicks, primarily. Then, shockingly, at the 3rd
> > round bell, the boxer threw in the towel, he coudn't stand!
> > So that's a data point. But I haven't seen that in mma.
>

> paul varelans vs marco ruas.

Right, I forgot about that one.
How about an example from the last 10 years?

Mark

Phil Boutros

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Apr 16, 2013, 3:27:13 PM4/16/13

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Mark T <markta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> paul varelans vs marco ruas.
>
> Right, I forgot about that one.
> How about an example from the last 10 years?

Forrest vs Rampage.

Phil
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