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Mark T
Dec 5, 2012, 3:30:15 PM12/5/12
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On Dec 4, The Viking <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>I never saw anything blocked from inside out (center line of
> >>the body to the outside). I couldn't think of a single time I've seen
> >>that block used in any MMA or boxing match.
>
> > > But I have dim memories of many hours spent practicing inward block/reverse punch back a few decades when I did TMA. Is there ever a use for something we did so many thousand times?
>
> I could not agree with you more on the blocks being mistaught.
> I do not believe most of the blocks, as taught now, were blocks
> originally but strikes. I believe the strikes got watered down
> when karate was introduced into the secondary schools on
> Okinawa prior to WW II; and perhaps even more when
> MacArthur banned martial arts teaching during the US
> occupation of Japan. Karate then had to be presented as a
> defensive art rather than an offensive one to get the ban lifted.
> That is of course my own view and may not be correct.
I agree completely, and so do some published
historians of karate.
Also, the word 'uke', used in karate, does not
mean 'block', but some blockhead translated
it that way into English, and it stuck. Though
it might have been intentional, for ethical reasons,
as you suggest.
Mark
> >>I never saw anything blocked from inside out (center line of
> >>the body to the outside). I couldn't think of a single time I've seen
> >>that block used in any MMA or boxing match.
>
> > > But I have dim memories of many hours spent practicing inward block/reverse punch back a few decades when I did TMA. Is there ever a use for something we did so many thousand times?
>
> I could not agree with you more on the blocks being mistaught.
> I do not believe most of the blocks, as taught now, were blocks
> originally but strikes. I believe the strikes got watered down
> when karate was introduced into the secondary schools on
> Okinawa prior to WW II; and perhaps even more when
> MacArthur banned martial arts teaching during the US
> occupation of Japan. Karate then had to be presented as a
> defensive art rather than an offensive one to get the ban lifted.
> That is of course my own view and may not be correct.
I agree completely, and so do some published
historians of karate.
Also, the word 'uke', used in karate, does not
mean 'block', but some blockhead translated
it that way into English, and it stuck. Though
it might have been intentional, for ethical reasons,
as you suggest.
Mark
Mark T
Dec 7, 2012, 9:25:02 PM12/7/12
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On Dec 6, TimR <timothy...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Some theories on what the blocks really are:
> >1. The blocks are really strikes
>
> Ever hit the bag with that inside to outside block?
> I think if you could get any power into it you'd break your elbow.
>
> Pretty hard to imagine how you could hit a person with it. You'd have to both be bent over head butting.
Escape a rear bear hug, then elbow:
http://qpopcorner.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jackie-bruce-lee.jpg
Hair grab, and arm/shoulder lock:
http://www.maniacworld.com/bruce-lee-jackie-chan.jpg
Backhand strike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncapPrTusA
(if it's BLee, it's gungfu)
Mark
> > Some theories on what the blocks really are:
> >1. The blocks are really strikes
>
> Ever hit the bag with that inside to outside block?
> I think if you could get any power into it you'd break your elbow.
>
> Pretty hard to imagine how you could hit a person with it. You'd have to both be bent over head butting.
Escape a rear bear hug, then elbow:
http://qpopcorner.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jackie-bruce-lee.jpg
Hair grab, and arm/shoulder lock:
http://www.maniacworld.com/bruce-lee-jackie-chan.jpg
Backhand strike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncapPrTusA
(if it's BLee, it's gungfu)
Mark
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