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Mark T
May 23, 2013, 11:58:30 PM5/23/13
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On May 21, Timo <t...@physics.uq.edu.au> wrote:
> > What are lifting kicks actually called; if you have them or rather are
> > aware of them, in your system?
>
> We have two types. There are the ones that hit close to
> the foot, usually achilles tendon with a scooped foot. We
> just call them sweeps, and only the fine print distinguishes
> them from the more horizontal sweeps.
But I'll lay odds you don't know how to do them
properly. I didn't, unitl I learned some judo; de ashi
bara. And neither did any of my karotty playmates.
Though their sweeps were often successful, in a
crude sense. But they weren't taught right, or done right.
> >There is a chin na techique on youtube where you catch
> >under a kick at you, with your hands, and lift it higher to cause
> >the opponent to fall. However, I doubt that this would work
> > in real life with a serious
> > opponent unless you were super fast to catch any kick.
>
> It can work, but usually only if your opponent lets you see it
> coming in time, and you step in close. Your opponent
> shouldn't give you the opportunity. But some will. Easiest
> against turning/roundhouse and spinning kicks.
Actually, it's not difficult to catch a kick, it's mainly a
matter of focus. One's instinct is to block or move,
and that's what's primarily taught in karate schools.
But if you're in a defensive stance, and say
"if he kicks, I'm going to catch it,", it's feasible.
"catch the foot" is poor phrasing, better is "trap his
leg". Of course if you get caught off balance, you get
hit. But otherwise, it's a mental thing, a matter of
training yourself. And another example of defective
karate teaching, as players discover this by themselves,
so what good is sensei?
Mark
> > What are lifting kicks actually called; if you have them or rather are
> > aware of them, in your system?
>
> We have two types. There are the ones that hit close to
> the foot, usually achilles tendon with a scooped foot. We
> just call them sweeps, and only the fine print distinguishes
> them from the more horizontal sweeps.
But I'll lay odds you don't know how to do them
properly. I didn't, unitl I learned some judo; de ashi
bara. And neither did any of my karotty playmates.
Though their sweeps were often successful, in a
crude sense. But they weren't taught right, or done right.
> >There is a chin na techique on youtube where you catch
> >under a kick at you, with your hands, and lift it higher to cause
> >the opponent to fall. However, I doubt that this would work
> > in real life with a serious
> > opponent unless you were super fast to catch any kick.
>
> It can work, but usually only if your opponent lets you see it
> coming in time, and you step in close. Your opponent
> shouldn't give you the opportunity. But some will. Easiest
> against turning/roundhouse and spinning kicks.
Actually, it's not difficult to catch a kick, it's mainly a
matter of focus. One's instinct is to block or move,
and that's what's primarily taught in karate schools.
But if you're in a defensive stance, and say
"if he kicks, I'm going to catch it,", it's feasible.
"catch the foot" is poor phrasing, better is "trap his
leg". Of course if you get caught off balance, you get
hit. But otherwise, it's a mental thing, a matter of
training yourself. And another example of defective
karate teaching, as players discover this by themselves,
so what good is sensei?
Mark
Mark T
May 24, 2013, 2:12:46 PM5/24/13
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On May 23, Mark T <marktanne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, it's not difficult to catch a kick, it's mainly a
> matter of focus. One's instinct is to block or move,
> and that's what's primarily taught in karate schools.
> But if you're in a defensive stance, and say
> "if he kicks, I'm going to catch it,", it's feasible.
I meant, kicks above the waist.
> Actually, it's not difficult to catch a kick, it's mainly a
> matter of focus. One's instinct is to block or move,
> and that's what's primarily taught in karate schools.
> But if you're in a defensive stance, and say
> "if he kicks, I'm going to catch it,", it's feasible.
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