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MarKco

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Jul 10, 2008, 6:35:31 PM7/10/08
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Hello to everyone!

I hope I'm not posting in the wrong place. In case, please forgive me.
My question is the following: after 15 years of karate (Shotokan)
practice I finally became black belt last month. Since I'm going to
wear my black belt for a long time (I hope) I decided to buy a good
quality belt, so I walked to a shop and bought a silk Itaki black
belt. But when I came home I had an awful surprise: I believed that a
silk belt would have been softer, and easier to wear. Actually it's
the opposite. I tried to wear it this evening, but it's very hard to
bend and the knot, once it's been made, easilly slips off.
The question is: is there a way to make my belt become softer (I.E.
waiting some time, washing it...) or shall I definitely learn to make
my knot in a different way? ;-)

Thanks in advance for every answer, Oss
MarKco

Simon Slavin

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Jul 13, 2008, 4:01:19 PM7/13/08
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On 10/07/2008, MarKco wrote in message <5f376af7-ac1c-416d-8e43-
6edc92...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>:


> I finally became black belt last month.

Congratulations. I'm not kidding: Shotokan 1st Dan is not easy. Well
done.

> Since I'm going to
> wear my black belt for a long time (I hope) I decided to buy a good
> quality belt, so I walked to a shop and bought a silk Itaki black
> belt. But when I came home I had an awful surprise: I believed that a
> silk belt would have been softer, and easier to wear. Actually it's
> the opposite. I tried to wear it this evening, but it's very hard to
> bend and the knot, once it's been made, easilly slips off.
> The question is: is there a way to make my belt become softer (I.E.
> waiting some time, washing it...) or shall I definitely learn to make
> my knot in a different way? ;-)

I hate to say this, but I'd recommend you buy a conventional black belt
too. Use the silk one for pictures. The problem is that your belt isn't
silk: a silk belt would tear to bits. It's silk with an internal
construction to make it act a bit more belt-like. And it doesn't work
very well.

Has anyone developed a good knot for a silk belt ?

Simon.
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http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk

MarKco

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Jul 15, 2008, 4:17:05 PM7/15/08
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On 13 Lug, 22:01, Simon Slavin

<slavins.delete.these.four.wo...@hearsay.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > I finally became black belt last month.
>
> Congratulations.  I'm not kidding: Shotokan 1st Dan is not easy.  Well
> done.

Thanks a lot! It's not been easy at all :-)

> I hate to say this, but I'd recommend you buy a conventional black belt
> too.  Use the silk one for pictures.  The problem is that your belt isn't
> silk: a silk belt would tear to bits.  

Like the "Tokaido" ones, right?

> It's silk with an internal
> construction to make it act a bit more belt-like.  And it doesn't work
> very well.

Oh. I understand now! And how is this internal construction made?
Paper? Do you think it could be damaged if I wash the belt?

> Has anyone developed a good knot for a silk belt ?

I don't know, but in case I'm surely trying it! I have to admit that
the "pseudo-silk-belt" looks really wonderful, and I would be happy if
I could use it in everyday training...

Thanks a lot again for your answer :-)

MarKco

Triskel

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Jul 28, 2008, 10:26:44 AM7/28/08
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> Oh. I understand now! And how is this internal construction made?
> Paper? Do you think it could be damaged if I wash the belt?

After a while it should get easier to wear, but the *last* thing you
want to do with belt, silk or not is wash it, it's never done no
matter what ...

Congrats on your 1st dan!!!

-- Efra

Jake

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Jul 28, 2008, 10:38:37 PM7/28/08
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:26:44 -0700 (PDT), Triskel

>After a while it should get easier to wear, but the *last* thing you
>want to do with belt, silk or not is wash it, it's never done no
>matter what ...

Alas, what has happened to this group? Whoever told you the above is
full of it. Have them read this after you do:

http://www.24fightingchickens.com/2005/09/09/urban-legends-of-karate-belts/


-Jake

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Jul 28, 2008, 8:54:45 PM7/28/08
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In article <a7588ed6-cc8d-4b37-b2af-
a2580e...@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com>,
efrainv...@gmail.com says...

>
> > Oh. I understand now! And how is this internal construction made?
> > Paper? Do you think it could be damaged if I wash the belt?
>
> After a while it should get easier to wear, but the *last* thing you
> want to do with belt, silk or not is wash it, it's never done no
> matter what ...

Grungy belts get washed, cold water if needed. Last thing you
want is bacterial growth in your nice new belt to rot the silk.
The myth of no belt washing is just that, a myth. Belts get
washed in Japan. I've washed mine for decades with no problems
or hassles.

--
chagin1 at yahoo dot com
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