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Epier.com is picking up a great deal of business

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Truth

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May 31, 2001, 10:21:55 PM5/31/01
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Its amazing, but in the last few days, this site has grown an incredible amount.
Just put a few things over their, Ebay needs SOME competition, here's what
www.auctionguild.com says (Ebay has pissed most sellers off, slowly move some
items to other sites, as time goes on, they will become more and more viable,
just work slowly, you can help build a competitor and knock Ebay off its
"thrown". They're acting like King George when they should be emulating Queen
Victoria, the British Empire fell, so will Ebay. Little stroke fell great oaks.
Just a few auctions folks, a few at Amazon, a few at Yahoo, a few at epier.
That's all it will take

:ebaY Cuts Web? FIGHT IT!
ebaY Cuts The Threads of The Web? FIGHT BACK!!!
Editorial

ebaY has decided the World Wide Web is now a one way street that runs ebaY's
way. Effective 31 May, they are no longer allowing links from sellers auction
listing pages to the sellers website, web page or ANY page unless it is directly
related to the item on sale on that particular auction. There are a few
restricted exceptions that allow you a link out to the web, such as allowing a
link to a gallery of ebaY items, a discrete link to give credit to a third party
service provider, a discrete link to an organization that confers legitimacy on
the seller and/or offers services. It also allows a link to the sellers email
address, and links within ebaY and to other ebaY owned companies such as
Half.Com. Though it is your paid for advertising page on a site that claims to
be a venue only, ebaY is cutting your way to link out and only allowing links
in.

TAG does not believe that ebaY has thoroughly thought through this policy. We
feel it is harmful to ebaY's users and antithetical to the very thing that
allowed the creation of ebaY in the first place - the web. The policy is
actually in direct violation of ebaY's own user agreement, which directly states
what kind of links are not allowed, none of which are included in this latest
policy interpretation change of ebaY's. ebaY is not changing it's user agreement
to reflect these changes, but instead is making a policy change that amounts to
a set of unwritten rules, that if not adhered to, will cause the ending of
auctions and suspension from ebaY.

So what can you do to fight back?

1. List and buy on other sites. Even if you place a small percentage of your
items on other sites, many of which are free or charge a final value fee only,
this will help increase the variety of items on other sites, which in turn will
bring buyers. If you buy on other sites, you might find yourself getting some
real great bargains, and you will encourage sellers to list more. With increased
traffic, new marketplaces will become more viable forcing ebaY to compete for
your attention, and lose their current virtual monopoly. Include links to all
your auctions on sites off ebaY, in every end of auction notice and every
correspondence you send out. Sellers can put notices in their auction packages
and buyers can add a note about the sites they buy from, with every payment they
send. ebaY was built by word of mouth, and it is NOT the only option for online
auctions and trading.

2. ALL ebaY users should remove all links they have that lead TO ebaY, from
every page they might have an ebaY link on. The Internet is not a one way
communication tool, and if ebaY thinks it will benefit by these draconian
policies, TAG holds that the sellers should show ebaY who is the prime
beneficiary of links. ebaY is one site where a small percentage of users will
click on a seller's website link, but sellers have millions of links that go TO
ebaY. Does ebaY think that they can cut off the seller's links and that the
sellers won't reciprocate? We hope ALL sellers reciprocate and cut the links in,
until ebaY changes its policy.

3. Review ebaY owned companies and corporate partner auctions. Search out and
report every violation of this policy on auctions conducted by ebaY Premier
(Butterfields), Disney, USPS etc. (see below for a list of corporate User IDs to
target) Though ebaY may not care what their smaller sellers say, how long will
the likes of Disney put up with hundreds of auctions being ended by ebaY? How
many times will Overstock.Com be happy with having their About Me page shut down
for rule violations. ebaY has specifically stated that these link policies will
be enforced across the board on ALL their users. ebaY also told The Industry
Standard, that they were depending on users to enforce this policy for them,
"EBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove said that enforcing the anti-hyperlink policy
will "involve a large dependency on eBay users" So we will do just as ebaY asks,
just NOT against small sellers and individuals, but against the large corporate
sellers. As a corollary, DON'T turn in small sellers who violate the policy.

4. Use ebaYs own tools to build your customer list. Put up highly desirable item
at very tempting price with a restricted bidder list. Interested buyers have to
email you to get permission to bid and added to your bidder list. Get them to
sign up for your opt in customer list, explaining how ebaY's restrictive
policies make it necessary to have a customer list in order to protect both the
seller and buyer from risk of suspension. Once you get their opt in permission
in writing, you can prove to ebaY that you have a relationship with this
customer outside of ebaY. This also gives you an opportunity to send links to
other sites you have like items listed on, and provide the buyer an incentive to
buy at the alternate site as opposed to buying on ebaY. Which brings us back to
number one.

5. Do not use ANY special features on ebaY. List on ebaY but do not offer
Billpoint, Tradenable, SquareTrade or any other ebaY partnered company. Do not
use highlight, gallery, featured, 10 day, double category or any other ebaY
extra fee options you don't find absolutely essential to sell your items - go
PLAIN VANILLA when you list

You can buy and sell the same way you are doing now, but use these methods as a
platform to build your business and expand your horizons. You might be able to
shape ebaYs actions with these ideas, but more importantly you will help build a
future for person to person trading on the world wide web. -TAG

Corporate User IDs to watch for auction violations -
Butterfields and Butterfields2

Country Living

Disney

Greg Mannings

Hard Rock Cafe

IBM

Mitsubishi Automation

Motor Sports

NFL

Overstock.Com
PGA

Philadelphia Eagles Auctions

Planet Hollywood

SkyAuction

Sun Microsystems

Pennsylvania Treasury Department,
Bureau of Unclaimed Property

USPS Books
USPS Music
USPS Collectibles
USPS Everything Else

(please note this list is not comprehensive -
have links to add? email us at t...@theauctionguild.com)

wgs

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Jun 1, 2001, 4:38:42 AM6/1/01
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HERE, HERE !!!


"Truth" <ifthetr...@tellitanyway.com> wrote in message
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Astroboy

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Jun 1, 2001, 11:26:26 AM6/1/01
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:38:42 GMT, "wgs" <wsche...@ptd.net> wrote:

>HERE, HERE !!!
>
>
I believe the expression is "Hear, Hear!"

Now get off my "thrown".

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