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The Missing Link

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Just wanted to post something that happened to me that has
really bothered me.

I had a bad experience with a seller. I mailed my payment the
day of the auction. A few weeks later, I recieved the product,
only, it wasn't the product. It was close -- as in the same
ball-park -- but a much cheaper version. I'd give a link, but
the auction has expired. The product was a pair of wireless
headphones with 100 foot radio range (through walls etc.). She
sent me an infared line-of-sight 15 foot (maybe) range wireless
headset worth about 1/10 the other value.

Now, my initial gut feeling was that I was being skammed -- send
a similar product, customer won't notice or won't say anything
and easy money. My suspicions were increased when, after
mailing the faulty product back, it took OVER A MONTH to get the
right one (maybe she had to find it or, as she told me it wasn't
in stock.

So, I left negative feedback. I think I am justified in this,
both because of the initial foul-up and the 1.5 month deliver
time (in which, she answered none of my emails).

But here's what irks me. After having recieved the payment, the
seller left me glowing praise -- but with no product reference
ID#. After I left neg for her (well earned neg, i might ad), I
came to find out that she had left ME negative feedback. I did
some checking. This seller has done this to EVERYONE who has
left her negative feedback.

So I have a comment and a question.

My comment is a warning: Warning, sellers. I will check to see
if you leave reciprocal negative feedback -- as paybacks. If
you do, I will not bid on your products (and others shouldn't
either)

My question is: Is there anything I can do about this. Three
lines below the negative comment is the same person praising my
rapid payment and grading me AAAAAAAAA+++++++++...

Frustrated
Jed

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Richard Ward

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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You can't do a darn thing other than to post a response to her
negative. I have a hard time giving a negative to someone who makes
good, in case there was a legitimate mistake, but refusing to respond to
emails and taking a month and a half to put things right takes it out of
the legitimate mistake category, at least in my opinion. I think,
taking everything you've said at face value of course, that the seller
earned the negative, but part of the feedback system is that if you
leave a negative for someone, they are free to leave one for you. Just
keep in mind that this particular situation could no longer occur,
because the nontransactional feedback has been eliminated.

Richard Ward

Ms. Qué

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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The Missing Link wrote:
>
> Just wanted to post something that happened to me that has
> really bothered me.
>
> I had a bad experience with a seller. I mailed my payment the
> day of the auction. A few weeks later, I recieved the product,
> only, it wasn't the product. It was close -- as in the same
> ball-park -- but a much cheaper version. I'd give a link, but
> the auction has expired. The product was a pair of wireless
> headphones with 100 foot radio range (through walls etc.). She
> sent me an infared line-of-sight 15 foot (maybe) range wireless
> headset worth about 1/10 the other value.
>
> Now, my initial gut feeling was that I was being skammed -- send
> a similar product, customer won't notice or won't say anything
> and easy money. My suspicions were increased when, after
> mailing the faulty product back, it took OVER A MONTH to get the
> right one (maybe she had to find it or, as she told me it wasn't
> in stock.
>
> So, I left negative feedback. I think I am justified in this,
> both because of the initial foul-up and the 1.5 month deliver
> time (in which, she answered none of my emails).

Definitely justified.

> But here's what irks me. After having recieved the payment, the
> seller left me glowing praise -- but with no product reference
> ID#. After I left neg for her (well earned neg, i might ad), I
> came to find out that she had left ME negative feedback. I did
> some checking. This seller has done this to EVERYONE who has
> left her negative feedback.

Hope you replied to her neg with a reference for others to check her
feedback history.

> So I have a comment and a question.
>
> My comment is a warning: Warning, sellers. I will check to see
> if you leave reciprocal negative feedback -- as paybacks. If
> you do, I will not bid on your products (and others shouldn't
> either)
>
> My question is: Is there anything I can do about this. Three
> lines below the negative comment is the same person praising my
> rapid payment and grading me AAAAAAAAA+++++++++...

I think the best thing you can do is reply to her comment. I read
feedback comments before I bid and something like that would turn me off
of bidding.

~ Qué
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backgam

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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had a similar experience, seller advertised leather backgammonboard, send
postalcheque
on sellers request, took a month to arrive, then another month for the
parcel to reach holland,
informed seller immediately after receipt of parcel that it was only
plastic, then several weeks
of delaying tactics by LAshowbiz/nikke finke, and now i cannot leave any
feedback at all....
now i am stuck with 2 plastic backgammonboards for $ 250.....rené van der
pluijm - bac...@dsv.nl
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<16c58da8...@usw-ex0102-084.remarq.com>...

>Just wanted to post something that happened to me that has
>really bothered me.
>
>I had a bad experience with a seller. I mailed my payment the
>day of the auction. A few weeks later, I recieved the product,
>only, it wasn't the product. It was close -- as in the same
>ball-park -- but a much cheaper version. I'd give a link, but
>the auction has expired. The product was a pair of wireless
>headphones with 100 foot radio range (through walls etc.). She
>sent me an infared line-of-sight 15 foot (maybe) range wireless
>headset worth about 1/10 the other value.
>
>Now, my initial gut feeling was that I was being skammed -- send
>a similar product, customer won't notice or won't say anything
>and easy money. My suspicions were increased when, after
>mailing the faulty product back, it took OVER A MONTH to get the
>right one (maybe she had to find it or, as she told me it wasn't
>in stock.
>
>So, I left negative feedback. I think I am justified in this,
>both because of the initial foul-up and the 1.5 month deliver
>time (in which, she answered none of my emails).
>
>But here's what irks me. After having recieved the payment, the
>seller left me glowing praise -- but with no product reference
>ID#. After I left neg for her (well earned neg, i might ad), I
>came to find out that she had left ME negative feedback. I did
>some checking. This seller has done this to EVERYONE who has
>left her negative feedback.
>
>So I have a comment and a question.
>
>My comment is a warning: Warning, sellers. I will check to see
>if you leave reciprocal negative feedback -- as paybacks. If
>you do, I will not bid on your products (and others shouldn't
>either)
>
>My question is: Is there anything I can do about this. Three
>lines below the negative comment is the same person praising my
>rapid payment and grading me AAAAAAAAA+++++++++...
>

Sigfried

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Have you tried leaving feedback? There's no longer a time limit.

Dan Cottler

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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In article <16c58da8...@usw-ex0102-084.remarq.com>, The
Missing Link <linkNO...@usc.edu.invalid> wrote:

> My question is: Is there anything I can do about this. Three
> lines below the negative comment is the same person praising my
> rapid payment and grading me AAAAAAAAA+++++++++...

Regretfully, the most you can do is post a response to the negative
feedback.

Posting retaliatory feedback like this is unacceptable, IMO. The
seller screwed up and made you jump thru hoops to get the right
product. Pretty galling that they should turn around and neg you
for it.

OTOH, since you did ultimately get the right product, perhaps your
negative feedback wasn't necessary. A neutral or positive with
strong wording might have been more appropriate.

- Dan.

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Curtis Desjardins

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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2-4-6-8, Sigfried, @NOSPAM.com is spiffy, Sigfried, @NOSPAM.com is great!:

> Have you tried leaving feedback? There's no longer a time limit.

Sure there is. If the auction is no longer in the database, you
can't leave feedback. That gives you about a 2 month limit, give
or take.


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Kredai

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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60 day minimum, possible greater maximum

"* There will no longer be a 60-day time limit for leaving transactional
feedback. Users will be able to leave feedback as long as the item remains
on our database, which will be for at least 60 days, but likely longer."


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